QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Apr 2 2008, 12:50 PM)

Sorry James,
You mentioned Hoagland and I lit up. He's been around for years, and he keeps on treading the same line: we went to the Moon but covered up that there were UFOs there or evidence of ancient civilisations, etc. I was demonstrating that what Hoagland claims has to be researched to determine its accuracy.
I do not find Hoagland in any way credible, so I don't believe what he says about Ed Mitchell.
We could ask Ed, but it would not convince anyone who believes he is a subject of mind control. If he denies that underwent hypnotherapy to be "deprogrammed", the believers simply point to that as evidence that he IS programmed. It's a no-win situation for him.
I usually avoid this topic like the plague, but in this case, I will have to, at least mention that ostensibly we are all seekers of truth, here on the Forum, [grins];
In the 1960's, for all of us [unfortunately?] old enough to remember, the vaunted Project Blue Book was an item of interest to some degree as controversial as the asssassination of JFK. Both of these topics, became intertwined as......
1. News of Marilyn Monroe's press conference, which never happened see Dorothy Kilgallen, where she ostensibly was going to mention the taboo subject became a sensational subject of that time period.
2. Paris Flammonde's book on UFO's became a best-seller.
3. The linkage between Phillip Corso who was associated with both subjects via Roswell and his position in the government, and subsequent revelations that he was connected to the Schickshinny Knight's of Malta, a story in itself became more commonly known.
These are just a sampling of some events, and are intended as such.
Flash Forward to our era and the events in the waning day's of World War 2, in Europe have become of heightened interest, in no small part due to the books of Joseph P. Farrell.......
So, it is noteworthy to mention that the event commonly referred to as the Phoenix Lights, a mass UFO sighting, which took place on
March 13, 1997 in Phoenix, AZ is now documented in a recently released DVD. I have viewed the video, and it is not your father's Oldsmobile, if one catches the meaning. Then Governor Fife Symington at that time had outraged some 10,000 people in the state of Arizona, mostly in the Phoenix area by calling a press conference, unveiling a State employee dressed as an Extra-Terrestrial, to ridicule very real public concerns over an event, that was witnessed by
1. Air Traffic Controller's who saw the images, but did not see the images on radar.
2. Then current employee's of the US Government, who appeared on camera, face blurred asserting that there was extreme concerns, about the event.
3. An estimated 10,000 individuals who saw this event, and tried to jolt City Hall into addressing the issue, but who clearly did not want to.
If Evan's viewpoint is the higher path of this topic then in effect, the whole world has gone crazy, because it is arguably the first mass media UFO phenomena which has forced, or if Evan is correct, taken important time away from the global media's agenda of more important topics, as the topic was subsequently carried on USA Today, CNN, MSNBC, and Brokaw, Jennings, Rather
and Larry King. Perhaps the most ironic part of the video, is the years later admission of then Governor Fife Symington, that he too had witnessed the event and went agreed with the other estimated 10,000 individuals who all believed the objects were, not of this earth.