Well, I can't imagine that this woman had any powerful "enemies."

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9...;show_article=1

Now this isn't the same prostitution ring that nailed the former Gov. of New York?

This is a different ring?

BK

I guess one of her clients didn't want to read about it in a 'tell-all' book. The USA is getting to rival Russia now in people being killed to be rid of a 'problem', without a second's thought about the life or ethics involved. Yes, she MIGHT have really committed suicide - but I doubt it greatly.

And where, pray tell, is her little black book with all the names of Washington big wigs? Given that she was to be sentenced in July she was -forgive the pun-sitting on some very valuable information which she could have utilized as a bargaining chip. Nervous "enemies"? You bet: she'd already posted phone numbers. Imagine what she and her attorney could trade for leniency.

To gain a better understanding of what may well have happened here there is a rather long article on this part of the forum. The "Dutrox Paedophile Affair: Connections to the very top". It begins in DC, then moves across the world, but comes full circle to our Capital.

Dawn

QUOTE(Dawn Meredith @ May 2 2008, 01:43 PM)

And where, pray tell, is her little black book with all the names of Washington big wigs? Given that she was to be sentenced in July she was -forgive the pun-sitting on some very valuable information which she could have utilized as a bargaining chip. Nervous "enemies"? You bet: she'd already posted phone numbers. Imagine what she and her attorney could trade for leniency.

To gain a better understanding of what may well have happened here there is a rather long article on this part of the forum. The "Dutrox Paedophile Affair: Connections to the very top". It begins in DC, then moves across the world, but comes full circle to our Capital.

Dawn

The following was emailed to me, from another forum:

Wayne Madsen had interviewed Palfrey numerous times and wrote about her. He was interviewed by Alex Jones at 4PM, only at infowars.com, in studio. Madsen said that Palfrey was in cahoots with the CIA. Her ladies all had college degrees and were involved in entrapping various parties so they could be blackmailed (like the entire Congressial membership, for starters). Also, Dick Cheney got a government job for one of the girls.

Palfrey was trying to distance herself of it all. But once you're in with the CIA, you're always with the CIA. Just ask OBL. He thought he was rid of them, too.

What was it LBJ called it...?...'a murder incorporated'!...he wasn't off the mark - only in his original statement misled, by trying to make it seem like it was only a certain location 
nd for a certain time. It is everywhere - including inside the Empire and has been 
ongoing since Dallas and before.....really since WW2...well, really since 1776. The old film 'em when they are 'making love' to be able to blackmail 'em is an old trick used by many and made the 'standard' under JEH for the FBI and others for the CIA.
.

Chaney's ties to big pharmaceuticals and the annual scare tactics promoting FLU VACCINE
should be investigated.

The anthrax scare was never properly investigated.

The world wide deaths of MICROBIOLOGISTS were never investigated.

The murder of JFK JR was never investigated.

Chemtrails are dismissed as harmless contrails.

...oh, and the 19 Arabs who wreaked havoc on 9-11 never existed.

Jack

And in the land of denial, don't expect to see any investigations of any of the above anytime soon....or the many others that could be added to the list above.

And just came upon this - where she states she will NOT commit suicide and DID expect to be 'suicided'!

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/0...m_predicted.htm

QUOTE(Peter Lemkin @ May 3 2008, 09:04 PM)

And just came upon this - where she states she will NOT commit suicide and DID expect to be 'suicided'!

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/0...m_predicted.htm

When will people learn that when they are in possession of information that can possibly bring down the rich and powerful the only way to stay alive is by TALKING. I realize that the mainstream press would not likely touch whatever she had to offer, but there are plenty of alternatives, like the one posted here: Alex Jones has shown, now over many years that he will print- or broadcast on tv- the truth, no matter how big or powerful the adversary.

Oddly enough, the day this story broke Nancy Grace (on cable news) was also questioning the "suicide" theory for a good portion of her show.

Just another day in Washington for these people. Business as usual. "Murder Inc." indeed.

Dawn

This part of Murder Inc. may well have been related to 9/11/01! Sadly, it looks like more will die over this matter very shortly - for that wonderful 'newspeak' term 'National Security'.
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9/11 Conspiracy Connection To DC Madam Murder
Palfrey told former NSA official that call girls had picked up information concerning foreknowledge of attacks
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may20..._connection.htm
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, May 5, 2008

Former NSA analyst and Navy intelligence officer Wayne Madsen tells the The Alex Jones Show that one of the key motives behind the DC Madam's murder may have been the information her call girls picked up from Washington's top brass concerning foreknowledge and government complicity in the 9/11 attacks.

Madsen also connected another suspicious death - that of former CIA agent Roland Carnaby who was gunned down by Houston police last week - to another individual who was involved in both the 9/11 cover-up and the D.C. Madam scandal, disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

Noting that Palfrey and her defense team had tried to invoke the Classified Information Procedures Act in the U.S. District Court in Washington, which is only used when classified information or the names of people who are intelligence officers needs to be discussed, Madsen said Palfrey, "Had information which could have a bearing on the 9/11 attacks that some of her employees may have picked up information beforehand that would have been very useful to the 9/11 investigation."

(Article continues below)


Madsen added that most of Palfrey's call girls had been active around the area of McLean Virginia, which is where the CIA and other intelligence agencies are based and where Dick Cheney lived at the time.

Host Alex Jones recalled that during interviews Palfrey had told him that her escort service was in fact being used as an intelligence operation to gather intelligence on individuals who used the service, particularly those connected to the military.

Madsen, who spoke personally to Palfrey on numerous occasions, recalls one conversation at dinner about a month a go with Palfrey and her asset forfeiture lawyer where Palfrey told him, 'I have information that would have been of great interest to the 9/11 Commission - there's information that they have (her call girls) that would have been very important for the 9/11 Commission to know having to do with intelligence they picked up about 9/11 before it happened'.

The former NSA official noted that some of Palfrey's call girls were being chauffeured by Sherlington Limousines to poker parties attended by former CIA director and co-chair of the Joint 9/11 Intelligence Inquiry Porter Goss. One of the reasons cited for Goss' abrupt resignation in May 2006 was his alleged involvement in a prostitution scandal where lobbyists were holding parties for GOP lawmakers that featured hookers and gambling at the Watergate Hotel in D.C.

On the morning of 9/11, Goss was having breakfast with the head of Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) General Mahmoud Ahmad, the man who ordered a wire transfer of $100,000 to alleged lead hijacker Mohammed Atta.


Deborah Jeane Palfrey.

In addition, Madsen pointed out that Jack Abramoff, who was also connected to the DC Madam scandal, allowed at least two of the 9/11 hijackers to use one of his casino boats in the days before 9/11, and this is what Palfrey was probably referring to when she spoke about her call girls picking up information about 9/11 before it happened.

"There's the link, when you've got Abramoff and you had two of those hijackers on his casino boat a few days before 9/11 - I just wonder if that's what Jeane was talking about," said Madsen, "Because now I'm looking at this crazy incident in Houston with Roland Carnaby, a retired CIA guy who was still contracted to the CIA, being gunned down in broad daylight by the Houston police department - now I've been told by Agency sources in Houston that one of the people he was looking at was Abramhoff and the casino boats - so here you've got two people in the same week, looks like they were both assassinated in broad daylight," he concluded.

Many readers will recall that Newsweek reported that military brass in Washington received a warning the night before the 9/11 attacks which led to a September 11 flight being cancelled. "NEWSWEEK has learned that while U.S. intelligence received no specific warning, the state of alert had been high during the past two weeks, and a particularly urgent warning may have been received the night before the attacks, causing some top Pentagon brass to cancel a trip. Why that same information was not available to the 266 people who died aboard the four hijacked commercial aircraft may become a hot topic on the Hill," according to the September 13 2001 issue.

The connection to 9/11 is tantalizing and provides a key motive for why numerous power brokers would have wanted Palfrey to be shut up for good before she had the opportunity to release information in court that her call girls picked up about 9/11 pointing to foreknowledge and government complicity in the attacks.

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I guess the Borg will now suddenly take an interest in this thread [it'll be just a coincidence] - as his contract perhaps specifies.....

Shades of the Olson murder [and SO many others!] for knowing too much.... here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MlFajrqKDc
...but the good-guy US Govt. doesn't do 'that kind of stuff'...
http://911blogger.com/node/14275
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Overwhelming Evidence Points To Murder Of DC Madam
"She insinuated that there is a contract out for her and I fully believe they succeeded," says Condo manager

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Saturday, May 3, 2008
|


Evidence is stacking up to suggest that the alleged "suicide" of DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey was in fact a calculated murder, as the manager of Palfrey's Florida Condo reveals that Palfrey was not suicidal when he spoke to her Monday and told him of her fears about a contract being out on her life.

The new testimony is backed up by at least four other recorded public statements on behalf of Palfrey attesting to the fact that she would never commit suicide and if she was found dead to immediately suspect murder.

Despite these on-the-record statements, the majority of the corporate media has ignored each one and instead given credence to the unverified claim of a professional conspiracy debunker who has been caught fabricating statements in the past.

The building manager of Park Lake Towers in Orlando, where Palfrey owned a condo, told WESH 2 news channel that he spoke to Palfrey on Monday as she was packing to leave for her mother's house and she did not seem upset or suicidal.

(Article continues below)



"Jean Palfrey was a class act. She wore very good clothes. She was well educated. Her way out of this world certainly would not have been in an aluminum shed attached to a mobile home in Tarpon Springs, Florida," said the manager, who did not want to be named.

The manager said that Palfrey had told him of her fears that a contract hit was out on her life.

"She insinuated that there is a contract out for her and I fully believe they succeeded," he stated.

According to the manger, Palfrey left for her mother's house with some suitcases and a box.

"She had one white paper file box that she told me had some important paper with her and then she just kind of raised her eyebrows like you're supposed to think oh yeah, that's all the information that she had on her business in Washington," her building manager said.

If Palfrey was planning to commit suicide just three days later then why did she leave with several suitcases and a box of files?

According to an AP report, "Blanche Palfrey (her mother) had no sign that her daughter was suicidal, and there was no immediate indication that alcohol or drugs were involved, police Capt. Jeffrey Young said," .

On at least four previous occasions, both in the past and more recently, Palfrey publicly stated that she would never commit suicide.

Twice on The Alex Jones Show, the most recent example being less than two months ago, Palfrey made clear her intention never to kill herself (Click here for MP3).

"No I'm not planning to commit suicide," Palfrey told The Alex Jones Show on her last appearance in March, "I'm planning on going into court and defending myself vigorously and exposing the government," she said.

"Not to be concerned, I have no intention of letting anyone buy me off or make any kind of a deal with me....and I'm not planning to commit suicide either," said Palfrey on a separate occasion.

Alex Jones also talked directly to Palfrey during show breaks and she re-stated her intention never to commit suicide and made it clear that if she was found dead to consider it murder. GCN Live radio board operators are also witnesses to these statements.

Though never confirmed directly, Palfrey strongly insinuated that both Dick Cheney and John McCain were possibly involved in the DC Madam scandal, and this could have been one of the primary reasons why she was murdered.

During a May 2007 interview with Carol Joynt, host of the Q&A Cafe interview series, during a discussion about the alleged suicide of Palfrey's former call girl Brandy Britton, Palfrey stated, "I don't want to be like her. I don't want to end up like her."

During another appearance on The Alex Jones Show, Palfrey said she thought it was possible that Britton's "suicide" was actually murder because none of Britton's loved ones considered her to be suicidal.



Palfrey is on record as warning that any "suicide" would just be a cover-story for murder as far back as 1991.

"If taken into custody, my physical safety and most probably my very life would be jeopardized," she wrote in August 1991 following an attempt to bring her to trial, "Rape, beating, maiming, disfigurement and more than likely murder disguised in the form of just another jailhouse accident or suicide would await me," said Palfrey in a handwritten letter to the judge accusing the San Diego police vice squad of having a vendetta against her.

Despite these four separate examples of Palfrey stating - on the record - that she would not commit suicide - the corporate media, within hours of the announcement of her death, immediately afforded credence to the claim of a "friend," investigative journalist Dan Moldea, who said Palfrey had told him of her intention to commit suicide.

Moldea has no tape, he has no other eyewitnesses, and he has been caught fabricating statements in the past, and yet the media took his words as gospel. In addition, if Moldea was aware of Palfrey's intention to kill herself then why, if he was her "friend" as he claims, didn't he try to stop her from doing so?

The numerous examples of Palfrey stating that she would never commit suicide in addition to her condo manager and her own mother stating that she was not suicidal clearly provide justification for an exhaustive police and FBI investigation to be undertaken. Despite these glaring factors, the police who discovered Palfrey's body immediately ruled that no foul play was involved and closed the book.

The knowledge that Palfrey had about members of Washington's elite being involved in and using her escort service for the purposes of hiring prostitutes would have been enough to end scores of careers and wreck the lives of countless influential power brokers. This alone, allied with Palfrey's on the record statements, demand an immediate and thorough investigation in an attempt to bring to justice the murderers of Deborah Jeane Palfrey.

Breaking: Palfrey Told Condo Manager Clients Went “From the White House On Down”
Infowars
May 6, 2008
On the Alex Jones Show this afternoon, Joseph Strizack, a condominium-association manager at Park Lake Towers, Debra Jeane Palfrey’s Florida residence prior to her “suicide,” revealed that Palfrey’s client list went “from the White House on down.” Palfrey told Strizack her clients consisted of “a lot of influential people” from both political parties.

“Also don't always expect to see warning signs of suicide. Some people keep their thoughts of suicide secret or deny having suicidal intentions even when directly asked”

Mayo Clinic Staff

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/suicide/MH00058

Mayo Clinic medial editors

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/AboutThisSite/SB00034

She also said this BEFORE she was convicted, she was facing 55 years behind bars, she killed herself why is that surprising?



Yeah she said it in 1991 referring to the San Diego vice squad; somehow I doubt they were involved.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...;type=printable

How reliable was she?

...she wrote in her sentencing memorandum that "there is no intent on my part to re-enter the escort business." Instead, she said she intended to start a brokerage firm concentrating on American Western and Indian art when she was released from prison, in part to alleviate some of the "grief and suffering" she said she had brought to her parents.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...;type=printable

"she insists paid sex was not part of the service."

Ibid

"Palfrey...denied any role in illegal activities and said for 13 years she headed a "legal, high-end erotic fantasy service."

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17536810/

She contends it was an escort agency in the most literal sense, and that any eroticism between her escorts and their customers was strictly "fantasy," not hands-on.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/19/dc....ords/index.html

Is there any verification of her claims to have important clients as she made out? So far the only gov't oficials iD are a senator and "high-ranking State Department official Randall Tobias"* You'd think if she really had dirt on important people she would have used it to get the charges against her quashed

* ibid





So she supposedly made a vague comment about pre-9/11 intelligence. We already know that various warning signs were received. She could offer 3rd hand hearsay at best. Can anybody cite examples of things claimed by Madsen that could later be independently verified?

Right on cue and as predicted - the Borg arrives just when the thread touches on 9/11 showing [me] that the Secret Government don't give a crap about JFK, RFK, MLK, and most of their other dirty deeds anymore - but are frightened out of their minds about the truth of 9/11 coming into GENERAL awareness! [or anything about a possible Iran invasion, just weeks away] Some of their assigned debunkers are active here on this Forum. So what! They are self-exposing, and will share, IMO, the same Karmic fate as their propaganda-ilk did during previous fascist episodes - even though it is all now being revisited upon the United Snakes, via the NeoCons, and others allied with them since the end of WW2. 911 was one hell of an inside-job! 
Very cleverly planned and executed. My hat's off to them for the 'technique' and magic show
- but we have learned from the past and now can spot their smoke and mirrors almost a
 soon as they happen - the patterns are well known, repeat, and are easy to spot. The Borg are not naive
souls in denial. Again, I suggest people not engage them, but ignore them, and work on what we can, to think though and do analysis of what happened, who was involved, and how we can turn this all around....and fast. We are almost out of time now. No Good-Guy Nations to come to the rescue - only ourselves - Warriors for Truth in CyberSpace and around the World in real life.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/312.html

You’re hilarious Peter. You were so desperate to draw attention to the claim the woman’s death might have been tied to 9/11 that you started a new thread just to draw attention to it, then you wonder why I showed up on this thread. You’re right previous to that a CT claiming that the suicide of a woman just convicted of various felonies and facing spending the rest of her life in prison was suspicious on its face seem unworthy of comment.

I see that you still haven’t risen above the tactic of making a personal attacks when you can’t refute someone else’s evidence.

If I was going to commit suicide, I don't think I would pack up and travel across country in order to hang myself at my mama's home.

The "suicide note" she left might as well have said, "Mama, go out to your storage shed. I've got a surprise for you."

But I fully expect Len to post several links to studies showing that people often choose to commit suicide on their parents' property, no matter how far they have to go, so that their parents can have the honor of finding the body. It's a family thing, and a last act of love.

Although suicides have sometimes bizarre circumstances, it is very possible (likely?) that this lady was "offed" by persons whom she had intimate details about. It's happened before, and will happen again.

Palfrey's Friend On Suicide Note: 'That's Not Her Signature'
Condo manager disputes authenticity of suicide notes, clear contradiction between style of letters

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Wednesday, May 7, 2008
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The manager of an Orlando condo building where Deborah Jean Palfrey, also known as the D.C. Madam, owned a unit disputes the alleged suicide notes that were published in the media - after witnessing examples of her handwriting going back years Joe Strizack concludes, "That is not her signature."

"She could sign her signature a hundred times and it would be identical," Strizack told a local NBC news station. "That is not her signature."

"Strizack looked over the suicide notes, but he questioned if the notes were actually written by Palfrey, and if they were, he thinks they may have been written under duress," according to the report.

Strizack remains convinced that Palfrey's demeanor immediately before she allegedly took her own life betrayed no sign that she was contemplating suicide.

"Monday morning a woman tells you that she’s afraid for her life, she told me several instances where people we following her, and Thursday she’s dead," Strizack said. "What do you think? If someone would put a hit out for her and if someone wanted something done they could do it."

Strizack provided us with copies of Palfrey's handwriting from personal letters and bill payments Palfrey had sent to him (click here for images).

While the overall style is obviously similar to the alleged suicide notes, certain letters and numbers are clearly different.

A comparison between one of Palfrey's notes to Strizack shows a difference, for example, in the number "2" (which is curled in the suicide letter but not in the note) and in letters like "T."

A clear contradiction between the two styles is evident with the letter "N" in the word "Need" - which is of a different structure in the suicide note and flamboyantly curls up in comparison with Palfrey's note to Strizack where the letter is much more understated.


An independent analysis on behalf of a handwriting expert needs to be undertaken in order to ascertain whether the writing belongs to Palfrey, is an outright fraud, or shows evidence of having been written under severe duress whereby Palfrey was forced to write the notes at gunpoint, for example.

As we reported on Monday, the content of Palfrey's alleged suicide notes contradicts both her public statements and the context of her situation following her upcoming prison sentence.

Joe Strizack appeared on The Alex Jones Show yesterday and revealed that Palfrey had told him that her client list went “from the White House on down.” Palfrey told Strizack her clients consisted of “a lot of influential people” from both political parties.

Listen to the full interview below via You Tube.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may20...uicide_note.htm

An interesting and now true prediction, Peter.

I am slowly coming around to your way of thinking. I think I may even have now "arrived".

The troll arrived on the 911 cue.

Amazing.

Oh, I was 100% sure and sure enough - an amazing 8 full hours later one, followed by their tag-team partner. A contract is a contract, and we all have to eat. Now one could be kind and just say they have an 'interest' in 'things 9/11', but the pattern is disturbing. They claim all 9/11 Truth claims are nearly insane ravings of paranoid or disgruntled - nearly unpatriotic souls. But, they don't ignore and simply pity the 'poor mis-directed and uninformed' now do they - nor do they start their own threads - they attack and TRY [without success I might add!] to inject doubt and thwart progress to anything related to those items of greatest concern to the current Deep Govt.  At the moment that would be 9/11 - as it has IMO the greatest potential to expose and unravel the entire history of treason, deceptions, alliance with fascists, murders and genocidal wars, trickle-up voodoo economics, control mechanisms, propaganda, media control, and just outright unConstitutionality and illegality of a host of actions WW2 to present. More than JFK. More than Iran-Contra. More than any other. 9/11 is the BIG one. The battle for history and truth is on and engaged. I started out as a JFK Assassinations researcher and still consider myself as such. The most important things I know and have I've not felt I could or should share on this Forum - but no matter - 9/11 is another manifestation of the same element within the Secret Governmental structure and now much more important as a potential 'level' to awaken and ENRAGE the Public. Thus the 'reaction'. Interestingly, the D.C. Madam murder was not of initial interest to me, then it became so, as it obviously was another [of so many] politically motivated silencings, now with the 9/11 aspect emergent, it has the potential to really rip-open some big holes! Any of the remaining prostitutes had better tell what they know to competent reserachers and alternative media, or they too will be silenced soon enough, sadly. There must be more such [advance knowledge] of 9/11 out there, and just like those with advance knowledge of Dallas, most were 'eliminated',  dealt with, or covered up to most. Humanity has always been governed by a Cabal of the Elites - at times openly [Middle Age Kings, various and sundry Dictators, Emperors, Pharohs etc.; and sometimes covertly [in so-called democracies]. It is time for the People of the Planet to overthrow their masters and stop being slaves. In fact if we don't, then Humanity and most of Life on Earth will not survive much longer. The ultimate battle has been engaged. I'm not optimistic, to be honest, as too many are Sheeple not People, but I [and others] are willing to fight to the last and lend whatever we can to the battle. This Forum often makes a significant contribution toward this. Sadly, and expectedly, there are those who are here to only obscure the truth and try to put the Demos back into the trance of the hidden Magicians. Ever was thus.

Ron I can't imagine you committing suicide to being with, we can assume that some who kills themself is under severe emotional distress. One can't always ascribe rational behavior to them. According to what I've read she was staying with her mom since shortly after the verdict.

I'm not sure about this one perhaps she was bumped off. But I have one question. If she had dirt on powerful people, especially ones tied to the Bush regime why didn't she use it to avoid trial by the federal gov't? She could have let it be know she would make Cheney's romps with man, woman, child and beast public unless charges were dropped.

I don't know, except I suspect that when you have something on someone as powerful and evil as Cheney, even if you want to talk, no one who might help you will listen. Not only will they not listen, they will put on earmuffs or hum in order not to hear it. That probably applies to defense lawyers as well as anyone else.

Someone recently quoted William Colby as telling someone (paraphrasing) that there are some things in this world, some people or forces so powerful, that you simply can't do anything about them, and you have to accept it as a fact of life.

The moral: you simply don't mess with Cheney and his ilk.

Jan,

Well said.

Exactly Jan, I second Ron's statement. Sadly, I know from personal experience, and also know many others who would fit that exactly...both the unemployable/poor/isolated/despised more than praised; and the dead [not by their own choosing]. This is learned quickly in the Corporate World, in the Government, the Military, Police, Academia, and many other institutions. We, as children, expect it only in the Mafia. The pretense of moral high ground is usually kept within these institutions, but it is just that, all too often, pretense. On this note, a frightening new development in the Bush Monstrosity:

The FBI has raided the offices of the independent government agency established to protect federal whistleblowers. On Tuesday, more than a dozen agents made off with computers and documents belonging to Office of Special Counsel head Scott Bloch. Bloch has been accused of obstructing a 2006 inquiry into his conduct. But critics say the FBI could be trying to intimidate Bloch as he leads probes into the Bush administration. Bloch’s investigations have focused on the firing of US attorneys and the alleged use of federal agencies for political ends.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/na...0,1453422.story

So, it seems, even the protector for whistleblowers is subject to the same pressures as those he is there to protect. The level of corruption and 'rough treatment' for those who would dare to play by real ethical rules varies in different societies and fluctuates over time. America and the UK are, IMO, at a point just now where a new low is being reached. The US Oligarchy, I fear, is playing with the idea of how to establish a complete lock-down on ethics and whistleblowing and simply institute a cypto-dictatorship. It will not be done as it was in Germany in the 30s, but with more subtle techniques. 9/11 followed by the unPatriot Acts was one step, IMO, and the next false-flag op will likely trigger COG and [sorry folks, National Security] Martial Law. Perilous times! I believe Chaney, and people like him, are THAT EVIL and THAT UNETHICAL, THAT MUCH dead-set AGAINST DEMOCRACY. Whistleblowers are to be dealt with, when they can't be silenced, even before this Administration - which is just an extreme in this regard.

I was a whistleblower at one point, and went to the D.A. in my county for help. He told me right to my face, "Sorry, I work only for the good people of this county!" [meaning those who don't mention that they see the Emperor has no clothes, and keep their silence].

Both one of her call-girls and the Madam died of most suspicious 'suicides' [the standard cover for murders of this type]. This is the old technique used ad nauseum. Silence the [potential or actual] whistleblowers, so one can continue dirty 'business' as usual........

It is not easy to face the 'adult reality' of human society - but face it we must and change it we must. In most developing nations it is more overt. In the developed [sic] nations they have developed ways to keep it more obscure. The level of corruption, lack-or-ethics and plain old murderousness seems very much akin, to me.

Senate ethics panel dismisses Vitter complaint

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Senate Ethics Committee on Thursday dismissed a complaint against Sen. David Vitter, a suspected patron of a prostitution ring headed by a woman who killed herself last month. In a letter to the Louisiana Republican, the panel said the conduct at issue allegedly occurred before his Senate candidacy and time in office. In addition, it did not result in his being charged criminally, the committee said.....

Complete article: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNew...842980020080509

One thing's for certain - there had to be a collective sigh of relief in certain DC circles when Palfrey's death was announced.

Sadly, the real 'prostitutes' are more often in Congress and the other branches of Government, than in any call-girl business. These guys and gals protect their own, don't they. Many 'problem' persons [potential whistleblowers] were suicided (or had car/plane or heart 'problems') in the weeks after Dallas, in the lead-up to the WC and HSCA, as well as during Watergate, Iran-Contra, and oh, so many other cases and scandals. If, as Maddan indicates, these two (most-likely) murders are 9/11 connected you will see 1] more deaths and 2] everyone in the establishment trying to hide it all under the rug. 9/11, like Dallas has the potential to bring down the entire form of Governance in the USA - forever - and they know that, and even those not involved want to save their fiefdoms and privilage, ill-earned money and power and will keep this below radar. The media is no problem, as they are but a propaganda arm of the governmental structures, overt and deep, for the most-part. That only leaves, again, the alternative media and independant researchers (and the Citizenry, who have, sadly, become used to being distant passive observers or phonied - circused-up 'news', rather than active participants or even followers of what really goes on in their [former] democracy.

You can see the effort to sweep under the rug, as the 'ethical violation' 'allegedly' took place before this Congressperson was in office. So, had he robbed a bank or tortured his child, etc. before coming into office, as opposed to after - no es una problema. Had that ploy not worked, they'd find another 'out'. What ethics the ethics committee has. Of course they haven't [nor has any other subcomittee] looked into the 'ethics', let alone Constitutionality of killing one million innocent Iraqis for nothing, and based on lies....among a few other events of this Administration. History will record this Administration something along the lines of Calligula's in Ancient Rome. "Let them hate us, as long as they fear us!" Emperor Calligula [but it could as well be W]

From the cited article:

"The Bush administration has been unable to make up its mind whether to ignore him or to act against him," said Tom Devine, legal director for the Government Accountability Project, a whistle-blower advocacy group. "Mr. Bloch is finally being held accountable for the same cover-ups that he is supposed to be policing. It is a very positive step."

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Advocates for whistle-blowers said Tuesday they felt vindicated after years of raising questions about Bloch and his activities.

A week ago, a lawyer representing public interest organizations and employees of the Office of Special Counsel wrote to President Bush asking that Bloch be removed from office because of "his unbroken record of misconduct and malfeasance." The 17-page letter by attorney Debra S. Katz claimed that Bloch had launched high-profile inquiries against the administration to keep himself in the public spotlight and insulate himself from administration efforts to hold him accountable.

Bloch has been controversial since the day Bush appointed him to run the obscure office. He has put top presidential appointees in the glare of his investigations and infuriated government-watchdog and gay-rights groups.

In one of his first official acts, Bloch ordered his staff to remove references to the agency's jurisdiction over "sexual orientation discrimination" from the OSC website and publications. Complaints began to surface from employees that Bloch had used harassment and intimidation against those who balked at his initiatives.

Care to elaborate?

But I’ve seen no evidence she was a whistle blower before she got busted. She seem content to exploit her call girls then lie about it.

Dear Mr. Doubt and Disruptive, 'Dead men and women don't talk...or whistle.' Get it? We're all more interested in why you zoomed onto this thread [with your sychophanic for the Oligarchy 'doubts'] only when and immediately when it mentioned 9/11. Inquiring minds want to know, Joe, who's bidding are you doing and Cui Bono?

The idea of her being killed for what she knew seems implausible to me, at least being killed by the Bush regime. If she had dirt on them they would have been unlikely to target her and if some over ambitious prosecutor who was in the dark went after her she could have made a quid pro quo to get charges dropped.

I doubt she really had more dirty little secrets than she already revealed, why wait till after she been convicted to go public? Why not use the info to leverage if not charges being lesen if not dropped completely? If she made a deal and was screwed over why not tell what she knew immediately? She kept dropping hint but so far the most important people were a Senator (years before he was elected) and 2nd - 3rd rung officials in the State Dept, World Bank and Clinton Administration.

And if there were any more VIPS why not sell the info? She seemed to crave attention but there is no evidence beyond her own claims (and she was a liar) that influential people beyond those already disclosed were among her customers, but hey you never know!

"Seeing" when one's eyes are professionally attuned to being "wide shut" is one way of disrupting plausibility...

The point to make is that nobody here is defending Madam Palfry's virtue, but are simply noting the apparent unusualness of her passing and asking themselves if there was more to that passing than the resident blind man gives credit for. And whether this fits with other patterns we have seen elsewhere. It seems quite possible that it does and is worth pursuing for that reason alone.