old thread locked by moderators: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...vocateurs+forum
new evidence: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=12763 and http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=12774 [too many others in past to list....]
Having a different position is NOT the problem. Dirty-tricks and trying to disrupt the Forum itself and defame and inflame [provoke for no reason than to try to discredit by making normal people get angry by twisting their words and positions] the members of the Forum and the ideas/persons/movements they support, is! If it is not against Forum rules, it should become so. IMO.
Full Version: Provocateurs On This Forum [Intentional Disruptors]
Hi Peter. Have been gone a while. Involved in taking care of my Dad (who is 96, now in nursing home... up until last year still balancing his checkbook to the penny by hand. Was an electrical engineer in his working days.... Also, four years ago, saw the evidence and agreed about 9/11 and BushCo. And that's from a life long Republican....). Have also, once again after a back surgery 8 years ago, taken up Hapkido.... very time consuming and somewhat frustrating for a 59 year old. But satisfying. I like to imagine Cheney or Rockefeller and some others, as opponents... ;-) ... hey, it's fair. We're all basically geriatric.....
Have to say, that before when I was reading more here, I learned, ultimately, to completely ignore certain posters such as Len, et. ilk.
As I've tracked across the web, I've come to believe the Pentagon 'Operation Information Roadmap' sycophants and employees are losing on many fronts. But, of course, there are many battles. I prefer to get into the fray where there are more folks influence.
Be well. Keep the fight.
Have to say, that before when I was reading more here, I learned, ultimately, to completely ignore certain posters such as Len, et. ilk.
As I've tracked across the web, I've come to believe the Pentagon 'Operation Information Roadmap' sycophants and employees are losing on many fronts. But, of course, there are many battles. I prefer to get into the fray where there are more folks influence.
Be well. Keep the fight.
QUOTE(Richard Welser @ May 14 2008, 04:38 AM) 
Hi Peter. Have been gone a while. Involved in taking care of my Dad (who is 96, now in nursing home... up until last year still balancing his checkbook to the penny by hand. Was an electrical engineer in his working days.... Also, four years ago, saw the evidence and agreed about 9/11 and BushCo. And that's from a life long Republican....). Have also, once again after a back surgery 8 years ago, taken up Hapkido.... very time consuming and somewhat frustrating for a 59 year old. But satisfying. I like to imagine Cheney or Rockefeller and some others, as opponents... ;-) ... hey, it's fair. We're all basically geriatric.....
Have to say, that before when I was reading more here, I learned, ultimately, to completely ignore certain posters such as Len, et. ilk.
As I've tracked across the web, I've come to believe the Pentagon 'Operation Information Roadmap' sycophants and employees are losing on many fronts. But, of course, there are many battles. I prefer to get into the fray where there are more folks influence.
Be well. Keep the fight.
Have to say, that before when I was reading more here, I learned, ultimately, to completely ignore certain posters such as Len, et. ilk.
As I've tracked across the web, I've come to believe the Pentagon 'Operation Information Roadmap' sycophants and employees are losing on many fronts. But, of course, there are many battles. I prefer to get into the fray where there are more folks influence.
Be well. Keep the fight.
I agree that they [those who believe the Secret Govt. Roadmap to Disinfo and Phoney History] are losing and very worried. Even can tell which issues worry them, by what they engage upon - and 9/11 is their Achillies heel and they know it! JFK was, but is now on the back burner, as there will be no invesigation nor public outcry now....not so on 911 and a few other more recent events. Any one being triggered, however, would release 'em all. But they choose to put their fingers and missles in the dike at 9/11 and things that followed from that. I have tried assiduously to 'ignore' some of the mosquito provocateurs on this [and other Forums - all major ones have at least one - how odd - I'm sure just a coincidence], but two of them now, used to be 3, constantly attack every post I make and it is difficult to totally ignore. Sadly, fellow members of the Forum rarely come to my or other's aid [Jack White is another common person attacked, for example] when we are attacked - that alone would turn away or diminish the effect of the provacateurs. The topic of 9/11 is not a popular one here, even though many believe it was not the official version event....so be it...but some of us have tried to point out [as have Joan Mellon, Peter Dale Scott and many others, that there is a direct connection between JFK (and many other such Deep Political events) and 9/11 - dead-on direct. Too many here are ONLY involved in the who/how-done-it aspects of Dallas [important, but not sufficient]. We need to see the larger picture and then act to counter it and take back our Countries and World which has been hijacked by an elite few for money and power. They don't give on **** for nation, democracy, rule of law, decency, truth, justice, freedoms, equality...etc. Only about their bottom line and power to control. Forward ever, backward never.
Laughable. "...losing and very worried..."?
Then why is it that you, in particular, can never give a retort to our counter-arguements except for 'BORG!' or similar.
You say, or quote a piece, which makes point A.
I respond, saying it is not correct, and produce my supporting material B.
We rarely (never?) see a debate about why B is wrong; we just get name calling or accusations of being a provocateurs. Remarks about always having the last word, for some people. Perhaps that is true because they make points and the other side cannot rebut it. They walk away, and start new threads on the same subject, ignoring the previous threads.
Just who is "...losing and very worried..."?
Then why is it that you, in particular, can never give a retort to our counter-arguements except for 'BORG!' or similar.
You say, or quote a piece, which makes point A.
I respond, saying it is not correct, and produce my supporting material B.
We rarely (never?) see a debate about why B is wrong; we just get name calling or accusations of being a provocateurs. Remarks about always having the last word, for some people. Perhaps that is true because they make points and the other side cannot rebut it. They walk away, and start new threads on the same subject, ignoring the previous threads.
Just who is "...losing and very worried..."?
QUOTE(Peter Lemkin @ May 12 2008, 10:05 AM)
Having a different position is NOT the problem.
A laughably untrue statement, the sad thing is he probably believes it. Can he point to one person on this forum who he substantially disagrees with but hasn't insulted?
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but two of them now, used to be 3, constantly attack every post I make and it is difficult to totally ignore. Sadly, fellow members of the Forum rarely come to my or other's aid [Jack White is another common person attacked, for example] when we are attacked - that alone would turn away or diminish the effect of the provacateurs.
Unfortunately Peter doesn't seem to understand the difference between someone challenging the veracity of his claims and someone attacking him personally
Richard wrote:
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I learned, ultimately, to completely ignore certain posters such as Len, et. ilk.
I guess life is easier when one ignores evidence and the people that contadict ones pet notions
Peter said "JFK was, but is now on the back burner, as there will be no invesigation nor public outcry now"
To be honest Peter I would not give up on this yet. In fact I have a sneaky feeling that either the JFK or MLK (or possibly both) assassinations might draw some high level interest within the next four years.
Steve
To be honest Peter I would not give up on this yet. In fact I have a sneaky feeling that either the JFK or MLK (or possibly both) assassinations might draw some high level interest within the next four years.
Steve
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