Familiar names? Check it out.
Jack
Full Version: "Len Brazil" and "Mike Williams" edit...
Which is it...Len COLBY or Len BRAZIL?
Aliases are not permitted on the forum.
Jack
Aliases are not permitted on the forum.
Jack
Interesting. Len Brazil certainly has the same language and style as our Len - nd, aparently, the same interests:
http://www.jod911.com/
Assuming that our Len is one and the same as Len Brazil, might it be that "Colby" is no more Len's true name than "Brazil" is?
Using AKA's is not only forbidden on the forum but raises the question why an AKA is felt to be needed in the first place?
Is there any way that our Len's true identity can be verified by John Simkin so that we can all be assured that he can legitimately continue to post under that name in these fora?
What's the "Mike Williams" handle Jack?
http://www.jod911.com/
Assuming that our Len is one and the same as Len Brazil, might it be that "Colby" is no more Len's true name than "Brazil" is?
Using AKA's is not only forbidden on the forum but raises the question why an AKA is felt to be needed in the first place?
Is there any way that our Len's true identity can be verified by John Simkin so that we can all be assured that he can legitimately continue to post under that name in these fora?
What's the "Mike Williams" handle Jack?
Given that Len Colby either hails from or lives in Brazil, I suspect it's probably an alias he uses on that site. The first person on the "advisory board" is called Shagster, which I doubt is his real name (I may be wrong).
QUOTE(Jack White @ Aug 7 2008, 10:01 AM) 
Familiar names? Check it out.
Jack
Jack
Sgt. Mikey heir apparent of Bill Miller at jfklancer, that Mike Williams? Bet there's a few (off board) emails flying around. Shades of the Roland Zavada thread here a few years back,. Whose who, right Len?
Let see, my name is Len and I live Brazil. That the three of you couldn’t figure out that LenBrazil is a nom de web speaks reflects poorly on your critical thinking skills.
Guyatt I’ll give you a thousand bucks for every word I wrote you can find on that page or on pages liked directly to it, that won’t cost me anything because there are none. You shouldn’t make stuff up, it reflects poorly on your credibility.
No one funds the Journal; the only expenses are web hosting which the web master pays out of his pocket. As for questions about peer review process it is obviously more rigorous than that of the Journal of 9/11 Studies which still has a paper on-line even though all involved seem to aknowledge it was completely errouneous.
Guyatt I’ll give you a thousand bucks for every word I wrote you can find on that page or on pages liked directly to it, that won’t cost me anything because there are none. You shouldn’t make stuff up, it reflects poorly on your credibility.
No one funds the Journal; the only expenses are web hosting which the web master pays out of his pocket. As for questions about peer review process it is obviously more rigorous than that of the Journal of 9/11 Studies which still has a paper on-line even though all involved seem to aknowledge it was completely errouneous.
QUOTE(Jan Klimkowski @ Aug 7 2008, 04:40 PM)
QUOTE(Len Colby @ Aug 7 2008, 08:37 PM)
Let see, my name is Len and I live Brazil. That the three of you couldn’t figure out that LenBrazil is a nom de web speaks reflects poorly on your critical thinking skills.
Guyatt I’ll give you a thousand bucks for every word I wrote you can find on that page or on pages liked directly to it, that won’t cost me anything because there are none. You shouldn’t make stuff up, it reflects poorly on your credibility.
No one funds the Journal; the only expenses are web hosting which the web master pays out of his pocket. As for questions about peer review process it is obviously more rigorous than that of the Journal of 9/11 Studies which still has a paper on-line even though all involved seem to aknowledge it was completely errouneous.
Guyatt I’ll give you a thousand bucks for every word I wrote you can find on that page or on pages liked directly to it, that won’t cost me anything because there are none. You shouldn’t make stuff up, it reflects poorly on your credibility.
No one funds the Journal; the only expenses are web hosting which the web master pays out of his pocket. As for questions about peer review process it is obviously more rigorous than that of the Journal of 9/11 Studies which still has a paper on-line even though all involved seem to aknowledge it was completely errouneous.
Is that a non-denial denial?
I don't know what you are driving at, but then I seldom do. LenBrazil is a "screen name", the webmaster/editor-in-chief/publisher of the journal pays the limited costs out of pocket. Webhosting is cheap.
QUOTE(Len Colby @ Aug 7 2008, 12:51 PM)
QUOTE(Jan Klimkowski @ Aug 7 2008, 04:40 PM)
QUOTE(Len Colby @ Aug 7 2008, 08:37 PM)
Let see, my name is Len and I live Brazil. That the three of you couldn’t figure out that LenBrazil is a nom de web speaks reflects poorly on your critical thinking skills.
Guyatt I’ll give you a thousand bucks for every word I wrote you can find on that page or on pages liked directly to it, that won’t cost me anything because there are none. You shouldn’t make stuff up, it reflects poorly on your credibility.
No one funds the Journal; the only expenses are web hosting which the web master pays out of his pocket. As for questions about peer review process it is obviously more rigorous than that of the Journal of 9/11 Studies which still has a paper on-line even though all involved seem to aknowledge it was completely errouneous.
Guyatt I’ll give you a thousand bucks for every word I wrote you can find on that page or on pages liked directly to it, that won’t cost me anything because there are none. You shouldn’t make stuff up, it reflects poorly on your credibility.
No one funds the Journal; the only expenses are web hosting which the web master pays out of his pocket. As for questions about peer review process it is obviously more rigorous than that of the Journal of 9/11 Studies which still has a paper on-line even though all involved seem to aknowledge it was completely errouneous.
Is that a non-denial denial?
I don't know what you are driving at, but then I seldom do. LenBrazil is a "screen name", the webmaster/editor-in-chief/publisher of the journal pays the limited costs out of pocket. Webhosting is cheap.
suck it up, Len. There's always Lancer.
OK I’ll fess up the journal is backed by a mysterious group of financiers named Lucie Phurr, B. Zell Bubb and Moe Locke. Don’t know much about them but their offices in the Bantam Books building (666 5th Av.) are extremely hot.
Deflection is one of your favourite techniques.
B Zell Bub, Lucie Phurr etc., -- School yard silliness and fart-sniggers at its very best.
Let's now return to reality and basics with a simple question:
Is your "real" name Len Colby or is that another "nom de web"?
How do the rest of us tell?
Are you prepared to verify that "Len Colby" is your your true name?
B Zell Bub, Lucie Phurr etc., -- School yard silliness and fart-sniggers at its very best.
Let's now return to reality and basics with a simple question:
Is your "real" name Len Colby or is that another "nom de web"?
How do the rest of us tell?
Are you prepared to verify that "Len Colby" is your your true name?
This is so silly!! Surely if Len were involved in something he wanted to keep secret, he's smart enough to use a different name.
Len Brazil is pretty obvious.
Why is it a bad thing if he is on the Advisory Board over there?
Surely you are all joking about placing any degree of seriousness in your questioning, aren't you?
Len Brazil is pretty obvious.
Why is it a bad thing if he is on the Advisory Board over there?
Surely you are all joking about placing any degree of seriousness in your questioning, aren't you?
QUOTE(Jan Klimkowski @ Aug 7 2008, 09:33 PM)
QUOTE(Kathy Beckett @ Aug 7 2008, 10:28 PM)
This is so silly!! Surely if Len were involved in something he wanted to keep secret, he's smart enough to use a different name.
Len Brazil is pretty obvious.
Why is it a bad thing if he is on the Advisory Board over there?
Surely you are all joking about placing any degree of seriousness in your questioning, aren't you?
Len Brazil is pretty obvious.
Why is it a bad thing if he is on the Advisory Board over there?
Surely you are all joking about placing any degree of seriousness in your questioning, aren't you?
Kathy - I'm deadly serious about each and every one of my questions, and I expect a meaningful answer from Colby rather than his trademark diversionary nonsense.
He has admitted to the nom de web of LEN BRAZIL. He has not said whether
LEN COLBY is a real name or a nom de web. (or maybe in admiration of
the former CIA director). Till further notice, I shall refer to him by his
admitted nom de web.
Jack
PS: If I recall correctly several years ago when the Zapruder film was
being discussed, there was a group called "Tink's Gang" which included
Tink Thompson, Gary Mack, Bill Miller, Craig Lamson, Len Brazil, Larry
Peters and several others. Same guy? Probably just a coincidence.
Charles,
I have made your post invisible because I believe it contains an inappropriate reference with regard to Len. I have notified John S and asked him to advise.
I have made your post invisible because I believe it contains an inappropriate reference with regard to Len. I have notified John S and asked him to advise.
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 04:31 AM)
Charles,
I have made your post invisible because I believe it contains an inappropriate reference with regard to Len. I have notified John S and asked him to advise.
I have made your post invisible because I believe it contains an inappropriate reference with regard to Len. I have notified John S and asked him to advise.
Wait a minute Evan and Kathy,
the problem isn't with Charles, it's with Len Colby Brazil, or whatever his name is.
He is always asking for posters to cite sources, and now it is important to know if Len Colby is his real name.
I think it is more important that members and posters not only use their real names and identities, but that their bios say who they are and what they do professionally, if not a teacher.
If bogus identities are permitted, then what game are we playing anyway?
BK
QUOTE(William Kelly @ Aug 8 2008, 06:13 AM)
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 04:31 AM)
Charles,
I have made your post invisible because I believe it contains an inappropriate reference with regard to Len. I have notified John S and asked him to advise.
I have made your post invisible because I believe it contains an inappropriate reference with regard to Len. I have notified John S and asked him to advise.
Wait a minute Evan and Kathy,
the problem isn't with Charles, it's with Len Colby Brazil, or whatever his name is.
He is always asking for posters to cite sources, and now it is important to know if Len Colby is his real name.
I think it is more important that members and posters not only use their real names and identities, but that their bios say who they are and what they do professionally, if not a teacher.
If bogus identities are permitted, then what game are we playing anyway?
BK
Thank you Bill.
My thoughts on this matter too.
Who can vouch that any one of us here are using their given names? Which member here can vouch for me?
Why does Len Colby need to prove that his name is really Len Colby, and why does nobody else need to do this for their respective names?
Why does he need to explain his responsibilities from a different website?
I think he only needs to cite sources for what he posts here, not for what he has posted elsewhere. By the way Len's email address starts with LenBrazil, I think I have seen it on this Forum somewhere. What's the big deal?
Why does he need to answer these?:
"Who is the webmaster/editor-in-chief/publisher of the self-styled "journal"?"
"What is a "nom de web" exactly? Please define." Isn't the answer to this, rather self evident? It is an alias used on the web, his call sign if you like.
Len's bio is a fine example of a bio and IMO all you need to know about him (and more) is right there.
Sure, Colby's opinions regarding conspiracies differ from many of ours, but is that a good reason to treat him like this?
Why does Len Colby need to prove that his name is really Len Colby, and why does nobody else need to do this for their respective names?
Why does he need to explain his responsibilities from a different website?
I think he only needs to cite sources for what he posts here, not for what he has posted elsewhere. By the way Len's email address starts with LenBrazil, I think I have seen it on this Forum somewhere. What's the big deal?
Why does he need to answer these?:
"Who is the webmaster/editor-in-chief/publisher of the self-styled "journal"?"
"What is a "nom de web" exactly? Please define." Isn't the answer to this, rather self evident? It is an alias used on the web, his call sign if you like.
Len's bio is a fine example of a bio and IMO all you need to know about him (and more) is right there.
Sure, Colby's opinions regarding conspiracies differ from many of ours, but is that a good reason to treat him like this?
Jack - all you have to do is put the link to your bio in your profile, as you have been asked to do several times now and in accordance with Forum rules, and your posts will all be made visible. Simple. If want assistance on how to place it in your signature line:
1. Near the top of the page, on the right hand side, there is a link labeled MY CONTROLS. Click on that.
2. A new page will appear. Go to the left hand side, and look for the heading PERSONAL PROFILE. Under that heading will be a selection labeled EDIT SIGNATURE. Click on it.
3. A text box will appear. Simply paste the URL for your biography into that box, then click on UPDATE MY SIGNATURE at the bottom of the box.
We CANNOT do this for you; you have to do it yourself. If you need assistance, please contact myself or one of the other Mods via PM and we'll help you.
Thank you.
1. Near the top of the page, on the right hand side, there is a link labeled MY CONTROLS. Click on that.
2. A new page will appear. Go to the left hand side, and look for the heading PERSONAL PROFILE. Under that heading will be a selection labeled EDIT SIGNATURE. Click on it.
3. A text box will appear. Simply paste the URL for your biography into that box, then click on UPDATE MY SIGNATURE at the bottom of the box.
We CANNOT do this for you; you have to do it yourself. If you need assistance, please contact myself or one of the other Mods via PM and we'll help you.
Thank you.
QUOTE
Evan Burton Posted Today, 09:47 AM
Jack - all you have to do is put the link to your bio in your profile, as you have been asked to do several times now and in accordance with Forum rules, and your posts will all be made visible. Simple. If want assistance on how to place it in your signature line:
1. Near the top of the page, on the right hand side, there is a link labeled MY CONTROLS. Click on that.
2. A new page will appear. Go to the left hand side, and look for the heading PERSONAL PROFILE. Under that heading will be a selection labeled EDIT SIGNATURE. Click on it.
3. A text box will appear. Simply paste the URL for your biography into that box, then click on UPDATE MY SIGNATURE at the bottom of the box.
We CANNOT do this for you; you have to do it yourself. If you need assistance, please contact myself or one of the other Mods via PM and we'll help you.
Thank you.
Jack - all you have to do is put the link to your bio in your profile, as you have been asked to do several times now and in accordance with Forum rules, and your posts will all be made visible. Simple. If want assistance on how to place it in your signature line:
1. Near the top of the page, on the right hand side, there is a link labeled MY CONTROLS. Click on that.
2. A new page will appear. Go to the left hand side, and look for the heading PERSONAL PROFILE. Under that heading will be a selection labeled EDIT SIGNATURE. Click on it.
3. A text box will appear. Simply paste the URL for your biography into that box, then click on UPDATE MY SIGNATURE at the bottom of the box.
We CANNOT do this for you; you have to do it yourself. If you need assistance, please contact myself or one of the other Mods via PM and we'll help you.
Thank you.
Mr. Burton is quite right.
I have even e-mailed Mr. White the instructions on how to proceed with attaching a working bio to his profile, I have had no reply from him, nor has he complied.
If Mr. Burton does not set Mr. White's posts invisible, I will. That is until he complies with the rule regarding his bio.
QUOTE(Antti Hynonen @ Aug 8 2008, 07:38 AM)
Who can vouch that any one of us here are using their given names? Which member here can vouch for me?
Why does Len Colby need to prove that his name is really Len Colby, and why does nobody else need to do this for their respective names?
Why does he need to explain his responsibilities from a different website?
I think he only needs to cite sources for what he posts here, not for what he has posted elsewhere. By the way Len's email address starts with LenBrazil, I think I have seen it on this Forum somewhere. What's the big deal?
Why does he need to answer these?:
"Who is the webmaster/editor-in-chief/publisher of the self-styled "journal"?"
"What is a "nom de web" exactly? Please define." Isn't the answer to this, rather self evident? It is an alias used on the web, his call sign if you like.
Len's bio is a fine example of a bio and IMO all you need to know about him (and more) is right there.
Sure, Colby's opinions regarding conspiracies differ from many of ours, but is that a good reason to treat him like this?
Why does Len Colby need to prove that his name is really Len Colby, and why does nobody else need to do this for their respective names?
Why does he need to explain his responsibilities from a different website?
I think he only needs to cite sources for what he posts here, not for what he has posted elsewhere. By the way Len's email address starts with LenBrazil, I think I have seen it on this Forum somewhere. What's the big deal?
Why does he need to answer these?:
"Who is the webmaster/editor-in-chief/publisher of the self-styled "journal"?"
"What is a "nom de web" exactly? Please define." Isn't the answer to this, rather self evident? It is an alias used on the web, his call sign if you like.
Len's bio is a fine example of a bio and IMO all you need to know about him (and more) is right there.
Sure, Colby's opinions regarding conspiracies differ from many of ours, but is that a good reason to treat him like this?
I do not understand why you don't 'get it'. Charles Drago has his post made invisible. Jack is treated like a child who is being naughty or 'petulant' as Evan called him and yet Kathy, Evan and you find no problem with someone being deceptive and using an alias. Mr 'what document do you have to support this claim' Colby is being let off with out being required to provide any proof of his own or being called to explain.
Is the irony lost on you that Jack White who is universally well known is pursued relentlessly because his bio link was broken and Charles Drago post is disappeared because it questions the 'entity' known as Len Colby? (I think Charles may actually be on to some thing here.) In the mean time Len Colby/Brasil or who ever the 'entity' is is mollycoddled by the moderators like something delicate and fragile that needs protection from justifiable questions. Just because his/her bio link isn't broken it all conforms. I don't think so. Evan in no uncertain terms states that Jack has to conform to the rules just like every one else but some how this is not applied to Len. No it is all 'Who can vouch that any one of us here are using their given names?' and 'Surely you are all joking about placing any degree of seriousness in your questioning, aren't you?' and 'What screen name a member here chooses to use on another forum is none of our business. It has nothing to do with what Len posts here. ' But according to Jack there was a Len Brasil posting here. What is going on here? Is the Emperor wearing clothes?
QUOTE(Maggie Hansen @ Aug 8 2008, 05:17 PM)
I do not understand why you don't 'get it'. Charles Drago has his post made invisible. Jack is treated like a child who is being naughty or 'petulant' as Evan called him and yet Kathy, Evan and you find no problem with someone being deceptive and using an alias. Mr 'what document do you have to support this claim' Colby is being let off with out being required to provide any proof of his own or being called to explain.
Maggie,
What proof do you have that len is NOT using his real name?
Would it be appropriate to ask you for proof of your real identity? Perhaps the 100 point check?
I think not.
Also:
QUOTE
pet·u·lant pɛtʃələnt/ Pronunciation Key - [pech-uh-luhnt]
– adjective
moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, esp. over some trifling annoyance: a petulant toss of the head.
[Origin: 1590–1600; < L petulant- (s. of petulāns) impudent, akin to petere to seek, head for]
– adjective
moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, esp. over some trifling annoyance: a petulant toss of the head.
[Origin: 1590–1600; < L petulant- (s. of petulāns) impudent, akin to petere to seek, head for]
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/petulant
All Jack has to do is abide with the rules of the Forum. Easy. He has been offered every assistance to do so. We are not asking him to do something every other member has to do. He is not being asked to reveal personal information he wishes to remain private. He is being asked to do what every other member here seems to regard as something quite normal. I think the term is accurate.
QUOTE
Maggie Hansen Posted Today, 10:17 AM
QUOTE(Antti Hynonen @ Aug 8 2008, 07:38 AM)
Who can vouch that any one of us here are using their given names? Which member here can vouch for me?
Why does Len Colby need to prove that his name is really Len Colby, and why does nobody else need to do this for their respective names?
Why does he need to explain his responsibilities from a different website?
I think he only needs to cite sources for what he posts here, not for what he has posted elsewhere. By the way Len's email address starts with LenBrazil, I think I have seen it on this Forum somewhere. What's the big deal?
Why does he need to answer these?:
"Who is the webmaster/editor-in-chief/publisher of the self-styled "journal"?"
"What is a "nom de web" exactly? Please define." Isn't the answer to this, rather self evident? It is an alias used on the web, his call sign if you like.
Len's bio is a fine example of a bio and IMO all you need to know about him (and more) is right there.
Sure, Colby's opinions regarding conspiracies differ from many of ours, but is that a good reason to treat him like this?
I do not understand why you don't 'get it'. Charles Drago has his post made invisible. Jack is treated like a child who is being naughty or 'petulant' as Evan called him and yet Kathy, Evan and you find no problem with someone being deceptive and using an alias. Mr 'what document do you have to support this claim' Colby is being let off with out being required to provide any proof of his own or being called to explain.
Is the irony lost on you that Jack White who is universally well known is pursued relentlessly because his bio link was broken and Charles Drago post is disappeared because it questions the 'entity' known as Len Colby? (I think Charles may actually be on to some thing here.) In the mean time Len Colby/Brasil or who ever the 'entity' is is mollycoddled by the moderators like something delicate and fragile that needs protection from justifiable questions. Just because his/her bio link isn't broken it all conforms. I don't think so. Evan in no uncertain terms states that Jack has to conform to the rules just like every one else but some how this is not applied to Len. No it is all 'Who can vouch that any one of us here are using their given names?' and 'Surely you are all joking about placing any degree of seriousness in your questioning, aren't you?' and 'What screen name a member here chooses to use on another forum is none of our business. It has nothing to do with what Len posts here. ' But according to Jack there was a Len Brasil posting here. What is going on here? Is the Emperor wearing clothes?
QUOTE(Antti Hynonen @ Aug 8 2008, 07:38 AM)
Who can vouch that any one of us here are using their given names? Which member here can vouch for me?
Why does Len Colby need to prove that his name is really Len Colby, and why does nobody else need to do this for their respective names?
Why does he need to explain his responsibilities from a different website?
I think he only needs to cite sources for what he posts here, not for what he has posted elsewhere. By the way Len's email address starts with LenBrazil, I think I have seen it on this Forum somewhere. What's the big deal?
Why does he need to answer these?:
"Who is the webmaster/editor-in-chief/publisher of the self-styled "journal"?"
"What is a "nom de web" exactly? Please define." Isn't the answer to this, rather self evident? It is an alias used on the web, his call sign if you like.
Len's bio is a fine example of a bio and IMO all you need to know about him (and more) is right there.
Sure, Colby's opinions regarding conspiracies differ from many of ours, but is that a good reason to treat him like this?
I do not understand why you don't 'get it'. Charles Drago has his post made invisible. Jack is treated like a child who is being naughty or 'petulant' as Evan called him and yet Kathy, Evan and you find no problem with someone being deceptive and using an alias. Mr 'what document do you have to support this claim' Colby is being let off with out being required to provide any proof of his own or being called to explain.
Is the irony lost on you that Jack White who is universally well known is pursued relentlessly because his bio link was broken and Charles Drago post is disappeared because it questions the 'entity' known as Len Colby? (I think Charles may actually be on to some thing here.) In the mean time Len Colby/Brasil or who ever the 'entity' is is mollycoddled by the moderators like something delicate and fragile that needs protection from justifiable questions. Just because his/her bio link isn't broken it all conforms. I don't think so. Evan in no uncertain terms states that Jack has to conform to the rules just like every one else but some how this is not applied to Len. No it is all 'Who can vouch that any one of us here are using their given names?' and 'Surely you are all joking about placing any degree of seriousness in your questioning, aren't you?' and 'What screen name a member here chooses to use on another forum is none of our business. It has nothing to do with what Len posts here. ' But according to Jack there was a Len Brasil posting here. What is going on here? Is the Emperor wearing clothes?
Oh, I think I "get " everything quite well. Look, we have a set of rules on this Forum. Lately we moderators have been asked to enforce these, and that is waht we are doing. By the way if your avatar is not improved your posts will be blocked as well.
As a reminder here are Forum rulesn (John Simkin):
On the 12th November I posted a message about the behaviour of members.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2224
This in itself has been taken over by personal bickering. I have therefore decided to make a new statement about the aims and objectives of this forum and to stress the kind of behaviour that we expect from members.
JFK Forum
The main objective of this forum is to bring together researchers into the assassination of John F. Kennedy. It is hoped that this forum will enable researchers to share information they have acquired about the case. In this way, the forum will become a major way of communicating information about the assassination to the wider community (we have a far larger number reading the forum than those posting information).
Rules of the JFK Forum
(i) All members have to provide a biography. A link to this biography should be added to their signature (see below for instructions how to do this).
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1471
(ii) All members should use a photograph of themselves as an avatar (see below for instructions how to do this). If you still find you have problems with this please email me and I will help you with this.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1861
(iii) Wherever possible, members should give references (books, documents, etc) concerning the comments that they make. This will help those carrying out academic research into this area.
(iv) Members should not make personal attacks on other members. Nor should references be made to their abilities as researchers. Most importantly, the motivations of the poster should not be questioned. At all times members should concentrate on what is being said, rather than who is saying it. It is up to the reader to look at the biography submitted by the poster, to judge whether they are telling the truth or not. The word “liar” is banned from use on the forum.
(v) Members should take care over the accuracy of their postings. This includes spellings, capital letters, etc. This is important as the forum is read by young students and therefore we should not be setting them a bad example. I would suggest you write initially in a word processing program that automatically checks spellings, etc. The finished work can then be copied and posted into the forum.
(vi) Make sure your postings are relevant to the thread. Please start another thread if your comments do not belong to any existing threads.
(vii) When you start a thread please make sure it is relevant to the events surrounding the assassination of JFK. We have other areas of the forum where you can post about Politics, History, Mass Media, Sociology, etc.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?act=idx
(viii) Members should use the quote function of the forum when replying to people’s posts. To do this click the REPLY button. Pressing this button will allow you to reply to a topic, and have the text from a particular reply quoted in your own reply. This can be edited so that only the relevant passage is included. If you want to reply to several postings, copy and paste the relevant comments into your own answer. To make this clear use the colour options to highlight what someone else is saying. Type in the name of the person after the quotation.
(ix) It helps the reader if the text of your posts goes right across the page. If you find this has not happened, use the EDIT button to make sure it does. I do this for you whenever I can but I find it very time-consuming so I would prefer it if you did it yourself.
(x) There is no need to add your own name to postings. The forum software does this automatically.
Please feel free to add your comments about these rules. I welcome suggestions about other rules we might need. However, do not use this thread to reopen disputes with other members. If you do, they will be deleted.
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QUOTE(Antti Hynonen @ Aug 8 2008, 07:57 AM)
QUOTE
Evan Burton Posted Today, 09:47 AM
Jack - all you have to do is put the link to your bio in your profile, as you have been asked to do several times now and in accordance with Forum rules, and your posts will all be made visible. Simple. If want assistance on how to place it in your signature line:
1. Near the top of the page, on the right hand side, there is a link labeled MY CONTROLS. Click on that.
2. A new page will appear. Go to the left hand side, and look for the heading PERSONAL PROFILE. Under that heading will be a selection labeled EDIT SIGNATURE. Click on it.
3. A text box will appear. Simply paste the URL for your biography into that box, then click on UPDATE MY SIGNATURE at the bottom of the box.
We CANNOT do this for you; you have to do it yourself. If you need assistance, please contact myself or one of the other Mods via PM and we'll help you.
Thank you.
Jack - all you have to do is put the link to your bio in your profile, as you have been asked to do several times now and in accordance with Forum rules, and your posts will all be made visible. Simple. If want assistance on how to place it in your signature line:
1. Near the top of the page, on the right hand side, there is a link labeled MY CONTROLS. Click on that.
2. A new page will appear. Go to the left hand side, and look for the heading PERSONAL PROFILE. Under that heading will be a selection labeled EDIT SIGNATURE. Click on it.
3. A text box will appear. Simply paste the URL for your biography into that box, then click on UPDATE MY SIGNATURE at the bottom of the box.
We CANNOT do this for you; you have to do it yourself. If you need assistance, please contact myself or one of the other Mods via PM and we'll help you.
Thank you.
Mr. Burton is quite right.
I have even e-mailed Mr. White the instructions on how to proceed with attaching a working bio to his profile, I have had no reply from him, nor has he complied.
If Mr. Burton does not set Mr. White's posts invisible, I will. That is until he complies with the rule regarding his bio.
Antti is a moderator too? Now we have Kathy, Evan and Antii involved in this and none of them want to know if it is really Len Colby or Len Brazil or who he is?
Will someone please provide me a link to Len's bio, as his page says he has no personal statement, that Jack is apparently lacking as well, though I'm pretty sure I know who Jack White is.
Now we have Charles posts being censored by Evan and Antti threatening to censor Jack by making his posts invisible even though we all know who Jack White is.
And the reason Len has to register under his real name is that it is a rule of this forum that the moderators are suppose to enforce, but apparently Kathy thinks its funny, Evan is waiting for John to wake up so he can check and see if he should allow Charles' statement, and Annti thinks its okay for Len to have a handle, or "call sign," when no one else is allowed to use one.
There is a reason why people hide behind such pseudo "call signs" and avoiding responsiblilty is one of them. Engaging in covert operations is another.
Len doesn't need somebody to vouch for him. All he has to do is be square with us.
Bill "Alec Hidell" Kelly
QUOTE(William Kelly @ Aug 8 2008, 05:26 PM)
Will someone please provide me a link to Len's bio, as his page says he has no personal statement, that Jack is apparently lacking as well, though I'm pretty sure I know who Jack White is.
As on the bottom of every one of Len's posts:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4878
Works for me - and complies with the Forum rules.
QUOTE
William Kelly Posted Today, 10:26 AM
QUOTE(Antti Hynonen @ Aug 8 2008, 07:57 AM)
QUOTE
Evan Burton Posted Today, 09:47 AM
Jack - all you have to do is put the link to your bio in your profile, as you have been asked to do several times now and in accordance with Forum rules, and your posts will all be made visible. Simple. If want assistance on how to place it in your signature line:
1. Near the top of the page, on the right hand side, there is a link labeled MY CONTROLS. Click on that.
2. A new page will appear. Go to the left hand side, and look for the heading PERSONAL PROFILE. Under that heading will be a selection labeled EDIT SIGNATURE. Click on it.
3. A text box will appear. Simply paste the URL for your biography into that box, then click on UPDATE MY SIGNATURE at the bottom of the box.
We CANNOT do this for you; you have to do it yourself. If you need assistance, please contact myself or one of the other Mods via PM and we'll help you.
Thank you.
Mr. Burton is quite right.
I have even e-mailed Mr. White the instructions on how to proceed with attaching a working bio to his profile, I have had no reply from him, nor has he complied.
If Mr. Burton does not set Mr. White's posts invisible, I will. That is until he complies with the rule regarding his bio.
Antti is a moderator too? Now we have Kathy, Evan and Antii involved in this and none of them want to know if it is really Len Colby or Len Brazil or who he is?
Will someone please provide me a link to Len's bio, as his page says he has no personal statement, that Jack is apparently lacking as well, though I'm pretty sure I know who Jack White is.
Now we have Charles posts being censored by Evan and Antti threatening to censor Jack by making his posts invisible even though we all know who Jack White is.
And the reason Len has to register under his real name is that it is a rule of this forum that the moderators are suppose to enforce, but apparently Kathy thinks its funny, Evan is waiting for John to wake up so he can check and see if he should allow Charles' statement, and Annti thinks its okay for Len to have a handle, or "call sign," when no one else is allowed to use one.
There is a reason why people hide behind such pseudo "call signs" and avoiding responsiblilty is one of them. Engaging in covert operations is another.
Len doesn't need somebody to vouch for him. All he has to do is be square with us.
Bill "Alec Hidell" Kelly
QUOTE(Antti Hynonen @ Aug 8 2008, 07:57 AM)
QUOTE
Evan Burton Posted Today, 09:47 AM
Jack - all you have to do is put the link to your bio in your profile, as you have been asked to do several times now and in accordance with Forum rules, and your posts will all be made visible. Simple. If want assistance on how to place it in your signature line:
1. Near the top of the page, on the right hand side, there is a link labeled MY CONTROLS. Click on that.
2. A new page will appear. Go to the left hand side, and look for the heading PERSONAL PROFILE. Under that heading will be a selection labeled EDIT SIGNATURE. Click on it.
3. A text box will appear. Simply paste the URL for your biography into that box, then click on UPDATE MY SIGNATURE at the bottom of the box.
We CANNOT do this for you; you have to do it yourself. If you need assistance, please contact myself or one of the other Mods via PM and we'll help you.
Thank you.
Mr. Burton is quite right.
I have even e-mailed Mr. White the instructions on how to proceed with attaching a working bio to his profile, I have had no reply from him, nor has he complied.
If Mr. Burton does not set Mr. White's posts invisible, I will. That is until he complies with the rule regarding his bio.
Antti is a moderator too? Now we have Kathy, Evan and Antii involved in this and none of them want to know if it is really Len Colby or Len Brazil or who he is?
Will someone please provide me a link to Len's bio, as his page says he has no personal statement, that Jack is apparently lacking as well, though I'm pretty sure I know who Jack White is.
Now we have Charles posts being censored by Evan and Antti threatening to censor Jack by making his posts invisible even though we all know who Jack White is.
And the reason Len has to register under his real name is that it is a rule of this forum that the moderators are suppose to enforce, but apparently Kathy thinks its funny, Evan is waiting for John to wake up so he can check and see if he should allow Charles' statement, and Annti thinks its okay for Len to have a handle, or "call sign," when no one else is allowed to use one.
There is a reason why people hide behind such pseudo "call signs" and avoiding responsiblilty is one of them. Engaging in covert operations is another.
Len doesn't need somebody to vouch for him. All he has to do is be square with us.
Bill "Alec Hidell" Kelly
Bill,
I have been a moderator since the moderators were initiated on this Forum.
Here's Len's bio:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4878
(it appears at the bottom his each of his posts)
Jack's posts are already being blocked as he has repeatedly failed to attach his bio to his signature on his profile.
A couple of questions:
How do you know that Len is not using his real name on this Forum?
Where is Len using his call sign on this Forum?
Thanks!
Antti
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 08:25 AM)
QUOTE(Maggie Hansen @ Aug 8 2008, 05:17 PM)
I do not understand why you don't 'get it'. Charles Drago has his post made invisible. Jack is treated like a child who is being naughty or 'petulant' as Evan called him and yet Kathy, Evan and you find no problem with someone being deceptive and using an alias. Mr 'what document do you have to support this claim' Colby is being let off with out being required to provide any proof of his own or being called to explain.
Maggie,
What proof do you have that len is NOT using his real name?
Evan, this is your job not mine. Or John and Andy's. Leave me out of it please.
Would it be appropriate to ask you for proof of your real identity? Perhaps the 100 point check?
Happy to comply if it is required of all.
I think not.
Also:
QUOTE
pet·u·lant pɛtʃələnt/ Pronunciation Key - [pech-uh-luhnt]
– adjective
moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, esp. over some trifling annoyance: a petulant toss of the head.
[Origin: 1590–1600; < L petulant- (s. of petulāns) impudent, akin to petere to seek, head for]
– adjective
moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, esp. over some trifling annoyance: a petulant toss of the head.
[Origin: 1590–1600; < L petulant- (s. of petulāns) impudent, akin to petere to seek, head for]
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/petulant
???
All Jack has to do is abide with the rules of the Forum. Easy. He has been offered every assistance to do so. We are not asking him to do something every other member has to do. He is not being asked to reveal personal information he wishes to remain private. He is being asked to do what every other member here seems to regard as something quite normal. I think the term is accurate.
Yeah, Evan. As long as your bio link works you can use what ever alias you like. Great. Totally impartial. Play the ball not the man. Yeah.
QUOTE
Maggie Hansen Posted Today, 10:39 AM
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 08:25 AM)
QUOTE(Maggie Hansen @ Aug 8 2008, 05:17 PM)
I do not understand why you don't 'get it'. Charles Drago has his post made invisible. Jack is treated like a child who is being naughty or 'petulant' as Evan called him and yet Kathy, Evan and you find no problem with someone being deceptive and using an alias. Mr 'what document do you have to support this claim' Colby is being let off with out being required to provide any proof of his own or being called to explain.
Maggie,
What proof do you have that len is NOT using his real name?
Evan, this is your job not mine. Or John and Andy's. Leave me out of it please.
Would it be appropriate to ask you for proof of your real identity? Perhaps the 100 point check?
Happy to comply if it is required of all.
I think not.
Also:
QUOTE
pet·u·lant pɛtʃələnt/ Pronunciation Key - [pech-uh-luhnt]
– adjective
moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, esp. over some trifling annoyance: a petulant toss of the head.
[Origin: 1590–1600; < L petulant- (s. of petulāns) impudent, akin to petere to seek, head for]
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/petulant
???
All Jack has to do is abide with the rules of the Forum. Easy. He has been offered every assistance to do so. We are not asking him to do something every other member has to do. He is not being asked to reveal personal information he wishes to remain private. He is being asked to do what every other member here seems to regard as something quite normal. I think the term is accurate.
Yeah, Evan. As long as your bio link works you can use what ever alias you like. Great. Totally impartial. Play the ball not the man. Yeah.
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 08:25 AM)
QUOTE(Maggie Hansen @ Aug 8 2008, 05:17 PM)
I do not understand why you don't 'get it'. Charles Drago has his post made invisible. Jack is treated like a child who is being naughty or 'petulant' as Evan called him and yet Kathy, Evan and you find no problem with someone being deceptive and using an alias. Mr 'what document do you have to support this claim' Colby is being let off with out being required to provide any proof of his own or being called to explain.
Maggie,
What proof do you have that len is NOT using his real name?
Evan, this is your job not mine. Or John and Andy's. Leave me out of it please.
Would it be appropriate to ask you for proof of your real identity? Perhaps the 100 point check?
Happy to comply if it is required of all.
I think not.
Also:
QUOTE
pet·u·lant pɛtʃələnt/ Pronunciation Key - [pech-uh-luhnt]
– adjective
moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, esp. over some trifling annoyance: a petulant toss of the head.
[Origin: 1590–1600; < L petulant- (s. of petulāns) impudent, akin to petere to seek, head for]
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/petulant
???
All Jack has to do is abide with the rules of the Forum. Easy. He has been offered every assistance to do so. We are not asking him to do something every other member has to do. He is not being asked to reveal personal information he wishes to remain private. He is being asked to do what every other member here seems to regard as something quite normal. I think the term is accurate.
Yeah, Evan. As long as your bio link works you can use what ever alias you like. Great. Totally impartial. Play the ball not the man. Yeah.
Quote:"
EB: Maggie,
What proof do you have that len is NOT using his real name?
MH: Evan, this is your job not mine. Or John and Andy's. Leave me out of it please. #"
Maggie we have exactly the same proof that Len is Len as we have that Maggie is Maggie. As far as I can tell we are quite happy with both sets of factual evidence!
QUOTE(Antti Hynonen @ Aug 8 2008, 08:34 AM)
QUOTE
William Kelly Posted Today, 10:26 AM
QUOTE(Antti Hynonen @ Aug 8 2008, 07:57 AM)
QUOTE
Evan Burton Posted Today, 09:47 AM
Jack - all you have to do is put the link to your bio in your profile, as you have been asked to do several times now and in accordance with Forum rules, and your posts will all be made visible. Simple. If want assistance on how to place it in your signature line:
1. Near the top of the page, on the right hand side, there is a link labeled MY CONTROLS. Click on that.
2. A new page will appear. Go to the left hand side, and look for the heading PERSONAL PROFILE. Under that heading will be a selection labeled EDIT SIGNATURE. Click on it.
3. A text box will appear. Simply paste the URL for your biography into that box, then click on UPDATE MY SIGNATURE at the bottom of the box.
We CANNOT do this for you; you have to do it yourself. If you need assistance, please contact myself or one of the other Mods via PM and we'll help you.
Thank you.
Mr. Burton is quite right.
I have even e-mailed Mr. White the instructions on how to proceed with attaching a working bio to his profile, I have had no reply from him, nor has he complied.
If Mr. Burton does not set Mr. White's posts invisible, I will. That is until he complies with the rule regarding his bio.
Antti is a moderator too? Now we have Kathy, Evan and Antii involved in this and none of them want to know if it is really Len Colby or Len Brazil or who he is?
Will someone please provide me a link to Len's bio, as his page says he has no personal statement, that Jack is apparently lacking as well, though I'm pretty sure I know who Jack White is.
Now we have Charles posts being censored by Evan and Antti threatening to censor Jack by making his posts invisible even though we all know who Jack White is.
And the reason Len has to register under his real name is that it is a rule of this forum that the moderators are suppose to enforce, but apparently Kathy thinks its funny, Evan is waiting for John to wake up so he can check and see if he should allow Charles' statement, and Annti thinks its okay for Len to have a handle, or "call sign," when no one else is allowed to use one.
There is a reason why people hide behind such pseudo "call signs" and avoiding responsiblilty is one of them. Engaging in covert operations is another.
Len doesn't need somebody to vouch for him. All he has to do is be square with us.
Bill "Alec Hidell" Kelly
QUOTE(Antti Hynonen @ Aug 8 2008, 07:57 AM)
QUOTE
Evan Burton Posted Today, 09:47 AM
Jack - all you have to do is put the link to your bio in your profile, as you have been asked to do several times now and in accordance with Forum rules, and your posts will all be made visible. Simple. If want assistance on how to place it in your signature line:
1. Near the top of the page, on the right hand side, there is a link labeled MY CONTROLS. Click on that.
2. A new page will appear. Go to the left hand side, and look for the heading PERSONAL PROFILE. Under that heading will be a selection labeled EDIT SIGNATURE. Click on it.
3. A text box will appear. Simply paste the URL for your biography into that box, then click on UPDATE MY SIGNATURE at the bottom of the box.
We CANNOT do this for you; you have to do it yourself. If you need assistance, please contact myself or one of the other Mods via PM and we'll help you.
Thank you.
Mr. Burton is quite right.
I have even e-mailed Mr. White the instructions on how to proceed with attaching a working bio to his profile, I have had no reply from him, nor has he complied.
If Mr. Burton does not set Mr. White's posts invisible, I will. That is until he complies with the rule regarding his bio.
Antti is a moderator too? Now we have Kathy, Evan and Antii involved in this and none of them want to know if it is really Len Colby or Len Brazil or who he is?
Will someone please provide me a link to Len's bio, as his page says he has no personal statement, that Jack is apparently lacking as well, though I'm pretty sure I know who Jack White is.
Now we have Charles posts being censored by Evan and Antti threatening to censor Jack by making his posts invisible even though we all know who Jack White is.
And the reason Len has to register under his real name is that it is a rule of this forum that the moderators are suppose to enforce, but apparently Kathy thinks its funny, Evan is waiting for John to wake up so he can check and see if he should allow Charles' statement, and Annti thinks its okay for Len to have a handle, or "call sign," when no one else is allowed to use one.
There is a reason why people hide behind such pseudo "call signs" and avoiding responsiblilty is one of them. Engaging in covert operations is another.
Len doesn't need somebody to vouch for him. All he has to do is be square with us.
Bill "Alec Hidell" Kelly
Bill,
I have been a moderator since the moderators were initiated on this Forum.
Here's Len's bio:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4878
(it appears at the bottom his each of his posts)
Jack's posts are already being blocked as he has repeatedly failed to attach his bio to his signature on his profile.
A couple of questions:
How do you know that Len is not using his real name on this Forum?
Where is Len using his call sign on this Forum?
Thanks!
Antti
I don't know that Len Colby is not using his real name on this forum. His bio looks pretty good to me too, except I'd like to know the answers to the quesitons posed to him by Tink and John, did he go to colllege with and know who Tink is talking about and is he related to CIA's Colby? And what did happen to his web site?
And is Len Colby his real name and does he use the name Len Brazil elsewhere?
Thanks!
BK
QUOTE(William Kelly @ Aug 8 2008, 05:26 PM)
Now we have Charles posts being censored by Evan and Antti threatening to censor Jack by making his posts invisible even though we all know who Jack White is.
And the reason Len has to register under his real name is that it is a rule of this forum that the moderators are suppose to enforce, but apparently Kathy thinks its funny, Evan is waiting for John to wake up so he can check and see if he should allow Charles' statement, and Annti thinks its okay for Len to have a handle, or "call sign," when no one else is allowed to use one.
There is a reason why people hide behind such pseudo "call signs" and avoiding responsiblilty is one of them. Engaging in covert operations is another.
Len doesn't need somebody to vouch for him. All he has to do is be square with us.
Bill "Alec Hidell" Kelly
And the reason Len has to register under his real name is that it is a rule of this forum that the moderators are suppose to enforce, but apparently Kathy thinks its funny, Evan is waiting for John to wake up so he can check and see if he should allow Charles' statement, and Annti thinks its okay for Len to have a handle, or "call sign," when no one else is allowed to use one.
There is a reason why people hide behind such pseudo "call signs" and avoiding responsiblilty is one of them. Engaging in covert operations is another.
Len doesn't need somebody to vouch for him. All he has to do is be square with us.
Bill "Alec Hidell" Kelly
Bill,
If you mean to make invisible a post which I believe makes an personal and unfair attack on another member, and which I have referred to the Forum owners for clarification, then I plead guilty.
As to your other point, then I propose the following:
1. All members are required to provide proof of their identity.
2. Proof of identity is to be provided to John Simkin or Andy Walker, the Forum owners.
3. Proof of identity shall be subject to the 100 point check:
PRIMARY DOCUMENTS - 70 Points
* Birth Certificate
* Citizenship Certificate
* Current Passport
* Expired passport which has not been cancelled and was current within the preceding 2 years
* Other document of identity having the same characteristics as a passport including diplomatic documents and some documents issued to refugees
SECONDARY DOCUMENTS - 40 POINTS (MUST HAVE PHOTOGRAPH & NAME)
* Driver licence
* Licence or permit issued under a law of a Government - (e.g. a boat licence)
* Identification card issued to a public employee
* Identification card issued by the a Government as evidence of the person's entitlement to a financial benefit
* An identification card issued to a student at a tertiary education institution
SECONDARY DOCUMENTS - 35 POINTS (MUST HAVE NAME & ADDRESS)
* A document held by a cash dealer giving security over your property
* A mortgage or other instrument of security held by a financial body
* Council rates notice
* Document from your current employer or previous employer within the last 2 years
* Land Titles Office record
* Document from a recognised Credit Reference association
SECONDARY DOCUMENTS - 25 POINTS (MUST HAVE NAME & SIGNATURE)
* Marriage Certificate (for maiden name only)
* Credit Card
* Membership to a Registered Club
* EFTPOS Card
SECONDARY DOCUMENTS - 25 POINTS (MUST HAVE NAME & ADDRESS)
* Electoral Roll record
* Records of a public utility - phone, water, gas or electricity bill
* Records of a financial institution
* A record held under a law other than a law relating to land titles
* Lease/rent agreement
* Rent receipt from a licensed real estate agent
SECONDARY DOCUMENTS - 25 POINTS (MUST HAVE NAME & DATE OF BIRTH)
* Record of a primary, secondary or tertiary education institution attended by you within the last 10 years
* Record of professional or trade association of which you are a member
4. Every member shall indemnify the Forum owners from criminal or civil or other legal action in case of inadvertent or intentional release of personal details supplied by members.
How about that? Every member will be guaranteed to be who they say they are. That should assail any concerns about "non de plumes".
QUOTE(Maggie Hansen @ Aug 8 2008, 05:39 PM)
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 08:25 AM)
Maggie,
What proof do you have that len is NOT using his real name?
Evan, this is your job not mine. Or John and Andy's. Leave me out of it please.
Oh no. John and Andy have applied a standard to every member on this Forum. You are asking that another standard be applied to Len, therefore you should provide supporting evidence why that higher standard should be applied to another member.
QUOTE(Maggie Hansen @ Aug 8 2008, 05:39 PM)
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 08:25 AM)
Would it be appropriate to ask you for proof of your real identity? Perhaps the 100 point check?
Happy to comply if it is required of all.
I think not.
Also:
QUOTE
pet·u·lant pɛtʃələnt/ Pronunciation Key - [pech-uh-luhnt]
– adjective
moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, esp. over some trifling annoyance: a petulant toss of the head.
[Origin: 1590–1600; < L petulant- (s. of petulāns) impudent, akin to petere to seek, head for]
– adjective
moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, esp. over some trifling annoyance: a petulant toss of the head.
[Origin: 1590–1600; < L petulant- (s. of petulāns) impudent, akin to petere to seek, head for]
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/petulant
???
All Jack has to do is abide with the rules of the Forum. Easy. He has been offered every assistance to do so. We are not asking him to do something every other member has to do. He is not being asked to reveal personal information he wishes to remain private. He is being asked to do what every other member here seems to regard as something quite normal. I think the term is accurate.
Yeah, Evan. As long as your bio link works you can use what ever alias you like. Great. Totally impartial. Play the ball not the man. Yeah.
You have a strange definition of the saying, Maggie. Where have I asked Jack to abide by a Forum rule that every other Forum member is not obliged to comply with? In what way am I applying a different standard to Jack? Where have we allowed another member to not provide a biography (excepting, of course, those individuals approved by John or Andy for reasons of privacy)?
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 08:57 AM)
QUOTE(William Kelly @ Aug 8 2008, 05:26 PM)
Now we have Charles posts being censored by Evan and Antti threatening to censor Jack by making his posts invisible even though we all know who Jack White is.
And the reason Len has to register under his real name is that it is a rule of this forum that the moderators are suppose to enforce, but apparently Kathy thinks its funny, Evan is waiting for John to wake up so he can check and see if he should allow Charles' statement, and Annti thinks its okay for Len to have a handle, or "call sign," when no one else is allowed to use one.
There is a reason why people hide behind such pseudo "call signs" and avoiding responsiblilty is one of them. Engaging in covert operations is another.
Len doesn't need somebody to vouch for him. All he has to do is be square with us.
Bill "Alec Hidell" Kelly
And the reason Len has to register under his real name is that it is a rule of this forum that the moderators are suppose to enforce, but apparently Kathy thinks its funny, Evan is waiting for John to wake up so he can check and see if he should allow Charles' statement, and Annti thinks its okay for Len to have a handle, or "call sign," when no one else is allowed to use one.
There is a reason why people hide behind such pseudo "call signs" and avoiding responsiblilty is one of them. Engaging in covert operations is another.
Len doesn't need somebody to vouch for him. All he has to do is be square with us.
Bill "Alec Hidell" Kelly
Bill,
If you mean to make invisible a post which I believe makes an personal and unfair attack on another member, and which I have referred to the Forum owners for clarification, then I plead guilty.
NOW YOU ARE BEING FUNNY.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK HIM.
LEN COLBY, IS THAT YOUR REAL NAME OR NOT?
AND DO YOU USE OTHER NAMES LIKE LEN BRAZIL?
AND IT IS OUR BUSINESS IF WE ARE TO INTERACT WITH HIM ON THIS FORUM THE INTEGRITY OF WHICH IS BASED ON HONESTY. OTHERWISE WE ARE PLAYING A GAME.
I WANT TO KNOW WHIICH WAY IT IS.
AND IF HE LIES, AND LEN COLBY AND LEN BRAZIL ARE FAKE NAMES HE USES IN ORDER NOT GET SPAMED, OR WHATEVER OTHER REASONS PEOPLE ARE MOTIVATED FOR PROVIDING FAKE NAMES, THEN HE WILL BE DISCOVERED AND BOOTED.
WHAT'S FUNNY, OR SAD, IS THAT JACK WHITE AND CHARLE ARE THE ONES BEING CENSORED, AND YOU HAVE SO MANY MODERATORS RUNNING AROUND AND NOBODY WANTS TO ASK THE QUESTION.
IS IT LEN COLBY OR LEN BRAZIL OR SOMEONE ELSE?
AND YOU REALLY WENT TO ALOT OF STUPID TROUBLE TO WRITE THE FOLLOWING WHEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK LEN THE QUESTION AND HAVE HIM ANSWER IT.
BILL KELLY
As to your other point, then I propose the following:
1. All members are required to provide proof of their identity.
2. Proof of identity is to be provided to John Simkin or Andy Walker, the Forum owners.
3. Proof of identity shall be subject to the 100 point check:
PRIMARY DOCUMENTS - 70 Points
* Birth Certificate
* Citizenship Certificate
* Current Passport
* Expired passport which has not been cancelled and was current within the preceding 2 years
* Other document of identity having the same characteristics as a passport including diplomatic documents and some documents issued to refugees
SECONDARY DOCUMENTS - 40 POINTS (MUST HAVE PHOTOGRAPH & NAME)
* Driver licence
* Licence or permit issued under a law of a Government - (e.g. a boat licence)
* Identification card issued to a public employee
* Identification card issued by the a Government as evidence of the person's entitlement to a financial benefit
* An identification card issued to a student at a tertiary education institution
SECONDARY DOCUMENTS - 35 POINTS (MUST HAVE NAME & ADDRESS)
* A document held by a cash dealer giving security over your property
* A mortgage or other instrument of security held by a financial body
* Council rates notice
* Document from your current employer or previous employer within the last 2 years
* Land Titles Office record
* Document from a recognised Credit Reference association
SECONDARY DOCUMENTS - 25 POINTS (MUST HAVE NAME & SIGNATURE)
* Marriage Certificate (for maiden name only)
* Credit Card
* Membership to a Registered Club
* EFTPOS Card
SECONDARY DOCUMENTS - 25 POINTS (MUST HAVE NAME & ADDRESS)
* Electoral Roll record
* Records of a public utility - phone, water, gas or electricity bill
* Records of a financial institution
* A record held under a law other than a law relating to land titles
* Lease/rent agreement
* Rent receipt from a licensed real estate agent
SECONDARY DOCUMENTS - 25 POINTS (MUST HAVE NAME & DATE OF BIRTH)
* Record of a primary, secondary or tertiary education institution attended by you within the last 10 years
* Record of professional or trade association of which you are a member
4. Every member shall indemnify the Forum owners from criminal or civil or other legal action in case of inadvertent or intentional release of personal details supplied by members.
How about that? Every member will be guaranteed to be who they say they are. That should assail any concerns about "non de plumes".
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William Kelly Posted Today, 10:50 AM
QUOTE(Antti Hynonen @ Aug 8 2008, 08:34 AM)
QUOTE
William Kelly Posted Today, 10:26 AM
QUOTE(Antti Hynonen @ Aug 8 2008, 07:57 AM)
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Evan Burton Posted Today, 09:47 AM
Jack - all you have to do is put the link to your bio in your profile, as you have been asked to do several times now and in accordance with Forum rules, and your posts will all be made visible. Simple. If want assistance on how to place it in your signature line:
1. Near the top of the page, on the right hand side, there is a link labeled MY CONTROLS. Click on that.
2. A new page will appear. Go to the left hand side, and look for the heading PERSONAL PROFILE. Under that heading will be a selection labeled EDIT SIGNATURE. Click on it.
3. A text box will appear. Simply paste the URL for your biography into that box, then click on UPDATE MY SIGNATURE at the bottom of the box.
We CANNOT do this for you; you have to do it yourself. If you need assistance, please contact myself or one of the other Mods via PM and we'll help you.
Thank you.
Mr. Burton is quite right.
I have even e-mailed Mr. White the instructions on how to proceed with attaching a working bio to his profile, I have had no reply from him, nor has he complied.
If Mr. Burton does not set Mr. White's posts invisible, I will. That is until he complies with the rule regarding his bio.
Antti is a moderator too? Now we have Kathy, Evan and Antii involved in this and none of them want to know if it is really Len Colby or Len Brazil or who he is?
Will someone please provide me a link to Len's bio, as his page says he has no personal statement, that Jack is apparently lacking as well, though I'm pretty sure I know who Jack White is.
Now we have Charles posts being censored by Evan and Antti threatening to censor Jack by making his posts invisible even though we all know who Jack White is.
And the reason Len has to register under his real name is that it is a rule of this forum that the moderators are suppose to enforce, but apparently Kathy thinks its funny, Evan is waiting for John to wake up so he can check and see if he should allow Charles' statement, and Annti thinks its okay for Len to have a handle, or "call sign," when no one else is allowed to use one.
There is a reason why people hide behind such pseudo "call signs" and avoiding responsiblilty is one of them. Engaging in covert operations is another.
Len doesn't need somebody to vouch for him. All he has to do is be square with us.
Bill "Alec Hidell" Kelly
Bill,
I have been a moderator since the moderators were initiated on this Forum.
Here's Len's bio:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4878
(it appears at the bottom his each of his posts)
Jack's posts are already being blocked as he has repeatedly failed to attach his bio to his signature on his profile.
A couple of questions:
How do you know that Len is not using his real name on this Forum?
Where is Len using his call sign on this Forum?
Thanks!
Antti
I don't know that Len Colby is not using his real name on this forum. His bio looks pretty good to me too, except I'd like to know the answers to the quesitons posed to him by Tink and John, did he go to colllege with and know who Tink is talking about and is he related to CIA's Colby? And what did happen to his web site?
And is Len Colby his real name and does he use the name Len Brazil elsewhere?
Thanks!
BK
QUOTE(Antti Hynonen @ Aug 8 2008, 08:34 AM)
QUOTE
William Kelly Posted Today, 10:26 AM
QUOTE(Antti Hynonen @ Aug 8 2008, 07:57 AM)
QUOTE
Evan Burton Posted Today, 09:47 AM
Jack - all you have to do is put the link to your bio in your profile, as you have been asked to do several times now and in accordance with Forum rules, and your posts will all be made visible. Simple. If want assistance on how to place it in your signature line:
1. Near the top of the page, on the right hand side, there is a link labeled MY CONTROLS. Click on that.
2. A new page will appear. Go to the left hand side, and look for the heading PERSONAL PROFILE. Under that heading will be a selection labeled EDIT SIGNATURE. Click on it.
3. A text box will appear. Simply paste the URL for your biography into that box, then click on UPDATE MY SIGNATURE at the bottom of the box.
We CANNOT do this for you; you have to do it yourself. If you need assistance, please contact myself or one of the other Mods via PM and we'll help you.
Thank you.
Mr. Burton is quite right.
I have even e-mailed Mr. White the instructions on how to proceed with attaching a working bio to his profile, I have had no reply from him, nor has he complied.
If Mr. Burton does not set Mr. White's posts invisible, I will. That is until he complies with the rule regarding his bio.
Antti is a moderator too? Now we have Kathy, Evan and Antii involved in this and none of them want to know if it is really Len Colby or Len Brazil or who he is?
Will someone please provide me a link to Len's bio, as his page says he has no personal statement, that Jack is apparently lacking as well, though I'm pretty sure I know who Jack White is.
Now we have Charles posts being censored by Evan and Antti threatening to censor Jack by making his posts invisible even though we all know who Jack White is.
And the reason Len has to register under his real name is that it is a rule of this forum that the moderators are suppose to enforce, but apparently Kathy thinks its funny, Evan is waiting for John to wake up so he can check and see if he should allow Charles' statement, and Annti thinks its okay for Len to have a handle, or "call sign," when no one else is allowed to use one.
There is a reason why people hide behind such pseudo "call signs" and avoiding responsiblilty is one of them. Engaging in covert operations is another.
Len doesn't need somebody to vouch for him. All he has to do is be square with us.
Bill "Alec Hidell" Kelly
Bill,
I have been a moderator since the moderators were initiated on this Forum.
Here's Len's bio:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4878
(it appears at the bottom his each of his posts)
Jack's posts are already being blocked as he has repeatedly failed to attach his bio to his signature on his profile.
A couple of questions:
How do you know that Len is not using his real name on this Forum?
Where is Len using his call sign on this Forum?
Thanks!
Antti
I don't know that Len Colby is not using his real name on this forum. His bio looks pretty good to me too, except I'd like to know the answers to the quesitons posed to him by Tink and John, did he go to colllege with and know who Tink is talking about and is he related to CIA's Colby? And what did happen to his web site?
And is Len Colby his real name and does he use the name Len Brazil elsewhere?
Thanks!
BK
Bill, Ok, just for the heck of it, I'd like to know too.
Since we have already asked him these and many other related questions too, and since he has had ample opportunity to answer, but hasn't, should we still pursue this?
I can not think of a Forum rule which we could enforce to make him reply? Can you?
I think this borders with the Forum rule of us not being allowed to inquire the motivations of a member....
I know he uses LenBrazil in his e-mail address, does that help?
Antti
Maggie,
Do Jack's rules applie to you?
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=149441
You are currently in violation of Jack's suggestion. Is Jack right or wrong?
Do Jack's rules applie to you?
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I suggest this be amended to say IDENTIFIABLE FACIAL PHOTO. This would
rule out a distant photo of a man on a motorcycle or strolling the beach, or any
photo in which the face is not large and well lighted. A face in shadow or
silhouette is not suitable.
Jack
rule out a distant photo of a man on a motorcycle or strolling the beach, or any
photo in which the face is not large and well lighted. A face in shadow or
silhouette is not suitable.
Jack
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=149441
You are currently in violation of Jack's suggestion. Is Jack right or wrong?
Folks, if as some think, intenecide is the goal of Len Colby's presence here then everyone seems to be playing at that game.
I am of the opinion, and hope there is no disagreement, that using your proper name is a very important aspect of this forum. I know John asks this to create a better community spirit and environment of trust. This spirit of trust and self regulation is further reinforced by the use of a biography and photograph.
To those who have avatar photographs that don't clearly depict the member, can I ask that you update this please. Could those without biographies please also update this. Doing so, not only prevents petty, trivial debates and arguments; it helps maintain as 'realistic' environment for debate as possible.
If trust and self regulation amongst intelligent adults, on this forum, is found wanting that is truly sad. Perhaps it is the issue of trust is most at stake here. I think it's vital that moderators are also trusted to be impartial and fair. Sincerely I think all are and in sometimes difficult circumstances.
Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe as my ma says.
I am of the opinion, and hope there is no disagreement, that using your proper name is a very important aspect of this forum. I know John asks this to create a better community spirit and environment of trust. This spirit of trust and self regulation is further reinforced by the use of a biography and photograph.
To those who have avatar photographs that don't clearly depict the member, can I ask that you update this please. Could those without biographies please also update this. Doing so, not only prevents petty, trivial debates and arguments; it helps maintain as 'realistic' environment for debate as possible.
If trust and self regulation amongst intelligent adults, on this forum, is found wanting that is truly sad. Perhaps it is the issue of trust is most at stake here. I think it's vital that moderators are also trusted to be impartial and fair. Sincerely I think all are and in sometimes difficult circumstances.
Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe as my ma says.
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 09:12 AM)
Maggie,
Do Jack's rules applie to you?
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=149441
You are currently in violation of Jack's suggestion. Is Jack right or wrong?
Do Jack's rules applie to you?
QUOTE
I suggest this be amended to say IDENTIFIABLE FACIAL PHOTO. This would
rule out a distant photo of a man on a motorcycle or strolling the beach, or any
photo in which the face is not large and well lighted. A face in shadow or
silhouette is not suitable.
Jack
rule out a distant photo of a man on a motorcycle or strolling the beach, or any
photo in which the face is not large and well lighted. A face in shadow or
silhouette is not suitable.
Jack
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=149441
You are currently in violation of Jack's suggestion. Is Jack right or wrong?
Evan,
Do you specialize in persecuting people?
Why are you doing this to me?
Ask Jack if his rules apply to me. You are the moderator. I thought I only had to abide by the forum rules.
I do not wish to drawn on this matter. It is a matter for John Simkin.
If ALL photos have to be of a particular what ever I am happy to comply. The point, not that many of the moderators seem to notice, of my posts today and my PM to you is that there are rules bent for some and others are hounded. What you or Jack think of anyones photos in particular I am not that interested in. If I have to change my photo (which will be fine by the way) I will be expecting to others having to change their photos too as they are not clear or up close.
Talk about shooting the messenger!
QUOTE(Maggie Hansen @ Aug 8 2008, 06:58 PM)
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 09:12 AM)
Maggie,
Do Jack's rules apply to you?
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=149441
You are currently in violation of Jack's suggestion. Is Jack right or wrong?
Do Jack's rules apply to you?
QUOTE
I suggest this be amended to say IDENTIFIABLE FACIAL PHOTO. This would
rule out a distant photo of a man on a motorcycle or strolling the beach, or any
photo in which the face is not large and well lighted. A face in shadow or
silhouette is not suitable.
Jack
rule out a distant photo of a man on a motorcycle or strolling the beach, or any
photo in which the face is not large and well lighted. A face in shadow or
silhouette is not suitable.
Jack
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=149441
You are currently in violation of Jack's suggestion. Is Jack right or wrong?
Evan,
Do you specialize in persecuting people?
Why are you doing this to me?
I do not wish to drawn on this matter. It is a matter for John Simkin.
If ALL photos have to be of a particular what ever I am happy to comply. The point, not that many of the moderators seem to notice, of my posts today and my PM to you is that there are rules bent for some and others are hounded. What you or Jack think of anyones photos in particular I am not that interested in. If I have to change my photo (which will be fine by the way) I will be expecting to others having to change their photos too as they are not clear or up close.
Talk about shooting the messenger!
Your avatar does not meet Forum requirements. 'Nuff said.
I'm not that pesamistic David. I think this forum is successful at what it tries to do, and could even be more influencial and educational if the effort were made.
And as for Gary's requirement that photos be for real, I don't know if that really matters.
Photos may put a face on our names for some, but I don't think I really have to see that Don the JFK Plankwalker isn't really Clint Eastwood, or that Kathy is afraid that Don Norton will stalk her, but our names are important, and so are our identities.
If Len Colby really does teach English in Brazil, God bless him.
But if his name isn't really Len Colby, and he's not a school teacher but an officer in the Brazilian military, and he didn't really learn English at Oberlan college but took psychops at the American School for State Security at Quantaco, then that would make a difference wouldn't it?
We'd be playing different games on the same field and not even know it.
I hope Len answers these questions, including Tink and John's, and gets his web site selling Brazilian art straightened out, and he teaches correct English, and not the bastard American english they talk in New York.
BK
And as for Gary's requirement that photos be for real, I don't know if that really matters.
Photos may put a face on our names for some, but I don't think I really have to see that Don the JFK Plankwalker isn't really Clint Eastwood, or that Kathy is afraid that Don Norton will stalk her, but our names are important, and so are our identities.
If Len Colby really does teach English in Brazil, God bless him.
But if his name isn't really Len Colby, and he's not a school teacher but an officer in the Brazilian military, and he didn't really learn English at Oberlan college but took psychops at the American School for State Security at Quantaco, then that would make a difference wouldn't it?
We'd be playing different games on the same field and not even know it.
I hope Len answers these questions, including Tink and John's, and gets his web site selling Brazilian art straightened out, and he teaches correct English, and not the bastard American english they talk in New York.
BK
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EVAN: Oh no. John and Andy have applied a standard to every member on this Forum. You are asking that another standard be applied to Len, therefore you should provide supporting evidence why that higher standard should be applied to another member.
That is just untrue Evan. Doubt has been created about the identity of some one called Len Colby. I and others here have asked that this be clarified. I would ask the same of any other member if the circumstance were the same.
QUOTE(Gary Loughran @ Aug 8 2008, 09:42 AM)
I am of the opinion, and hope there is no disagreement, that using your proper name is a very important aspect of this forum. I know John asks this to create a better community spirit and environment of trust. This spirit of trust and self regulation is further reinforced by the use of a biography and photograph.
Indeed Gary. Trust and community. Not a lot of that here today.
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 10:04 AM)
QUOTE(Maggie Hansen @ Aug 8 2008, 06:58 PM)
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 09:12 AM)
Maggie,
Do Jack's rules apply to you?
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=149441
You are currently in violation of Jack's suggestion. Is Jack right or wrong?
Do Jack's rules apply to you?
QUOTE
I suggest this be amended to say IDENTIFIABLE FACIAL PHOTO. This would
rule out a distant photo of a man on a motorcycle or strolling the beach, or any
photo in which the face is not large and well lighted. A face in shadow or
silhouette is not suitable.
Jack
rule out a distant photo of a man on a motorcycle or strolling the beach, or any
photo in which the face is not large and well lighted. A face in shadow or
silhouette is not suitable.
Jack
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=149441
You are currently in violation of Jack's suggestion. Is Jack right or wrong?
Evan,
Do you specialize in persecuting people?
Why are you doing this to me?
I do not wish to drawn on this matter. It is a matter for John Simkin.
If ALL photos have to be of a particular what ever I am happy to comply. The point, not that many of the moderators seem to notice, of my posts today and my PM to you is that there are rules bent for some and others are hounded. What you or Jack think of anyones photos in particular I am not that interested in. If I have to change my photo (which will be fine by the way) I will be expecting to others having to change their photos too as they are not clear or up close.
Talk about shooting the messenger!
Your avatar does not meet Forum requirements. 'Nuff said.
No Evan. Not enough. As I have said but some are hard of hearing I will post another photo if required by John. You are asking me if I am in violation of Jack's suggestion and my answer is I don't know. Nor do I care. Why don't you go ask Jack. You also ask Is jack right or wrong? Does it matter? Does my opinion on this matter? Is it relevant to any thing? Please.....
QUOTE(Maggie Hansen @ Aug 8 2008, 07:10 PM)
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EVAN: Oh no. John and Andy have applied a standard to every member on this Forum. You are asking that another standard be applied to Len, therefore you should provide supporting evidence why that higher standard should be applied to another member.
That is just untrue Evan. Doubt has been created about the identity of some one called Len Colby. I and others here have asked that this be clarified. I would ask the same of any other member if the circumstance were the same.
Okay - you do not show an identifiable photograph, and I have doubts as to the accuracy of your name.
Please provide to the whole Forum - not just me - verifiable proof of your identity. I ask this as a Forum member, not as a Moderator.
I have to say that I am astonished at the attitude displayed here by moderators about Len's true identity. Especially when so many members here have come to the conclusion that Len is an agent provocateur and some, like Charles Drago, have been sanctioned for openly stating that view --- although he has stated that view regularly over the last year in many posts, one day last month that view proved too much it seems.
Meanwhile, it is not a hard question I posed for Len to answer... is Len Colby his true name? Nor is it a hard thing to scan a copy of his US passport and email this to John Simkin, and for John to report to the members of the forum that Len's true name is as he states.
To my view there is a terrible imbalance and inconsistency in moderation that has been going on here for awhile now. A great many members are known or can be vouchsafed for who they are. I have no problem with proving who I am and will, if it satisfies concerns, also scan and email my British passport ID page to John for him to report to the forum that I am who I say I am. I am sure there are many others who would do like wise, including Charles Drago
Using AKA's in a forum of this standing is not acceptable for absolutely the reasons Charles concludes. If a member is not prepared to stand by his own name in another forum it casts doubts on his real identity here and it is therefore hardly surprizing that this causes widespread concern amongst members.
I believe some serious thinking needs to be done on this.
Step forward Len whoever you are?
Meanwhile, it is not a hard question I posed for Len to answer... is Len Colby his true name? Nor is it a hard thing to scan a copy of his US passport and email this to John Simkin, and for John to report to the members of the forum that Len's true name is as he states.
To my view there is a terrible imbalance and inconsistency in moderation that has been going on here for awhile now. A great many members are known or can be vouchsafed for who they are. I have no problem with proving who I am and will, if it satisfies concerns, also scan and email my British passport ID page to John for him to report to the forum that I am who I say I am. I am sure there are many others who would do like wise, including Charles Drago
Using AKA's in a forum of this standing is not acceptable for absolutely the reasons Charles concludes. If a member is not prepared to stand by his own name in another forum it casts doubts on his real identity here and it is therefore hardly surprizing that this causes widespread concern amongst members.
I believe some serious thinking needs to be done on this.
Step forward Len whoever you are?
QUOTE(Maggie Hansen @ Aug 8 2008, 07:20 PM)
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 10:04 AM)
QUOTE(Maggie Hansen @ Aug 8 2008, 06:58 PM)
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 09:12 AM)
Maggie,
Do Jack's rules apply to you?
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=149441
You are currently in violation of Jack's suggestion. Is Jack right or wrong?
Do Jack's rules apply to you?
QUOTE
I suggest this be amended to say IDENTIFIABLE FACIAL PHOTO. This would
rule out a distant photo of a man on a motorcycle or strolling the beach, or any
photo in which the face is not large and well lighted. A face in shadow or
silhouette is not suitable.
Jack
rule out a distant photo of a man on a motorcycle or strolling the beach, or any
photo in which the face is not large and well lighted. A face in shadow or
silhouette is not suitable.
Jack
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...st&p=149441
You are currently in violation of Jack's suggestion. Is Jack right or wrong?
Evan,
Do you specialize in persecuting people?
Why are you doing this to me?
I do not wish to drawn on this matter. It is a matter for John Simkin.
If ALL photos have to be of a particular what ever I am happy to comply. The point, not that many of the moderators seem to notice, of my posts today and my PM to you is that there are rules bent for some and others are hounded. What you or Jack think of anyones photos in particular I am not that interested in. If I have to change my photo (which will be fine by the way) I will be expecting to others having to change their photos too as they are not clear or up close.
Talk about shooting the messenger!
Your avatar does not meet Forum requirements. 'Nuff said.
No Evan. Not enough. As I have said but some are hard of hearing I will post another photo if required by John. You are asking me if I am in violation of Jack's suggestion and my answer is I don't know. Nor do I care. Why don't you go ask Jack. You also ask Is jack right or wrong? Does it matter? Does my opinion on this matter? Is it relevant to any thing? Please.....
No, I am trying to enforce the regulations John has asked all members to abide by:
(ii) All members should use a photograph of themselves as an avatar (see below for instructions how to do this). If you still find you have problems with this please email me and I will help you with this.
Your avatar could be anything, not even identifiable as a person. As Antti has asked, please correct it.
Thank you for observing the rules of this community.
QUOTE(William Kelly @ Aug 8 2008, 10:08 AM)
And as for Gary's requirement that photos be for real, I don't know if that really matters.
BK
BK
Bill, nor do I. It's not my requirement though - I believe John/Andy through forum regulations requires it. It would be my recommendation though, if even to prevent the many (and how many you have no idea) reports to moderators about bios and avatars being incorrectly displayed. As I like the idea that somehow the photo and bio are of a real person and I like the fact this adds depth to the personality. That may be my superficiality though
Generally though -
There is absolutely no fun in asking Nate, for example, to comply with with the bio tag It is not in any way, shape or form a rewarding job to do these tasks. They have to be done though and I try though to be as polite, considerate, fair and even handed in all matters - meaning treating people and views I agree with the same as those I disagree with. Again, absolutley no fun, reward or gratification in this. I have absolutely no personal - tactical or stragegic - interest in these things.
I do not look forward each morning to logging in to the myriad reported posts, many no more than a game of one-up-manship between conflicting parties.
I will say that I have found the vast and overwhelming majority of members of this forum to be extemely intelligent, well informed, humourous and mostly very pleasant to chat with in PM. The amount of folks who have privately accepted my, PMs and posted forum questions, and shared their knowledge without pride or prejudice is a tribute to the forum we have here. It is this more wholisitc view that I wish people would strive harder to protect. How each individual deals with the intermittent noise is personal choice.
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 05:31 AM)
Charles,
I have made your post invisible because I believe it contains an inappropriate reference with regard to Len. I have notified John S and asked him to advise.
I have made your post invisible because I believe it contains an inappropriate reference with regard to Len. I have notified John S and asked him to advise.
Again???? Evan, John this is so unfaiar. CD does serious rersearch. Len merely attacks. Check out his bio folks,: "GG Allin" concerts, then google GG Allin. A most fitting and admirable way to earn a living.
Dawn
QUOTE(Dawn Meredith @ Aug 8 2008, 08:30 PM)
QUOTE(Evan Burton @ Aug 8 2008, 05:31 AM)
Charles,
I have made your post invisible because I believe it contains an inappropriate reference with regard to Len. I have notified John S and asked him to advise.
I have made your post invisible because I believe it contains an inappropriate reference with regard to Len. I have notified John S and asked him to advise.
Again???? Evan, John this is so unfaiar. CD does serious rersearch. Len merely attacks. Check out his bio folks,: "GG Allin" concerts, then google GG Allin. A most fitting and admirable way to earn a living.
Dawn
Dawn,
I did this because I have concerns over something that was said in it. Recently a similar situation occurred, and I found that I should have acted. As I said, I have referred the matter to John to ensure that my decision is valid. If I am wrong, then his post is restored without editing - no harm done. If I am right, then he will be given the chance to edit his post, being aware of the reasons for it being considered unacceptable.
I hope you can understand. Thank you.
Edited to add: Also, Dawn, it is not my place to judge on the validity or worthiness of a members extra-forum activities. Their activities outside this Forum are none of my concern. I am only interested in what people post here, or if they post a link on this Forum to their activities outside this Forum.
QUOTE(Jan Klimkowski @ Aug 8 2008, 08:15 AM)
My initial impression is that this self-styled "journal" is a CSICOP-type operation. In other words, it may be a (professional?) operation, with a fundamentalist mission to destroy and debunk "conspiracy theories" about 9/11,
Have any basis of this belief?
QUOTE
using a pseudo-academic and pseudo-rigorous approach. Hence, the group's decision to term themselves a "journal" and proclaim that their "papers" are "peer-reviewed". Their "papers" may be "peer-reviewed" but who chooses the peers and ensures objectivity?
Sounds sorta like the Journal of 9/11 Studies, why don't you ask them the same questions, ask them why they keep a paper online they no to be false. OUr peer review process is basiclly the same as theirs.
QUOTE
Now, imagine if arch-sceptic James "The Amazing" Randi posted on the Education Forum. It would be important for we members to know that were debating with Randi, and that Randi was backed by the resources and research of CSICOP.
Do you have any evidence for this claim?
QUOTE
So, it is important to learn as much as we can about this self-styled "Journal of Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories" and "Colby"'s affiliation and relationship with them.
No mysteries, I'm an "advisor" the journal publishes papers that debunk silly 9/11 rubbish. If you want to try to point out any major flaws in any of the papers there knock yourself out.
My God this has gone beyond stupid,
- Yes my name is, Len (actually Leonard) Colby.
- As Evan pointed out most people use screen names at other forums I’m sure many members of this one use screen names elsewhere.
- No other member AFAIK has been asked to establish who they are, I will only do so if asked by John or Andy, and even then if they offer reasonable justification for singling me out for such a requirement.
- I have been open here about my use of LenBrazil elsewhere. I even drew attention to a forum and a specific thread where I use it http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...ost&p=54016
- Lenbrazil is also the name I use at PhotoBucket. If you check the properties of any of my images that I posted they have urls that begin http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l281/lenbrazil/
- I have even posted links to such images in a few posts. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...%2Flenbrazil%2F
- And as Kathy and Dave pointed out calling myself LenBrazil is a bit obvious if I wished to conceal my identity when I call myself Len and tell people I live in Brazil.
- It has already been established based on my IP address that I’m in Brazil so it would be quite a coincidence if I happened to live here and it were my last name.
- As for Maggies “point” that people normally use their real names at peer reviewed journals, that is the truth but JOD911 is no ordinary peer reviewed journal. Two of the advisors use obvious pseudonyms (Shagster and Debunking911) and three use partial pseudonyms (JamesB, ScottS and me). Calling it “peer reviewed” was meant to be a tongue in cheek stab at the “Journal of 9/11 Studies” which makes the same claim but apparently their only peer review process is posting articles on a closed forum before publication.
- I answered Tink’s question via e-mail I hadn’t noticed John’s question till now but my site is still at the same address www.brazilianartsandmusic.com, however due to a billing dispute with the host they converted me to a free site.
- Jan – As for your expectation that I am under some sort of obligation to answer your questions, I asked you 2 questions about Hardrup’s retraction on RFK thread a couple of time and you have yet to reply. If you answer mine I’ll answer yours.
You probablly hit the wrong button. Why don't you just post it again?
QUOTE(Jan Klimkowski @ Aug 8 2008, 12:54 PM)
Where's my post responding to Len's list gone?????
Jan, its been set to invisible, not by me, I guess because it contains the word Lying, which is against forum rules. Steve.
QUOTE(Stephen Turner @ Aug 8 2008, 09:02 AM)
QUOTE(Jan Klimkowski @ Aug 8 2008, 12:54 PM)
Where's my post responding to Len's list gone?????
Jan, its been set to invisible, not by me, I guess because it contains the word Lying, which is against forum rules. Steve.
If Jan wishes to accuse me of lying I expect him to offer evidence of such if he reposts a reworded version of his post.
QUOTE(Stephen Turner @ Aug 8 2008, 10:02 PM)
QUOTE(Jan Klimkowski @ Aug 8 2008, 12:54 PM)
Where's my post responding to Len's list gone?????
Jan, its been set to invisible, not by me, I guess because it contains the word Lying, which is against forum rules. Steve.
Done by me, for the reasons Stephen has stated. Please refer to the PM I sent you.
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