Even better images are due of other sites as the LRO orbit gets lower.
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Latest LRO images, this time from the Apollo 12 site.
Even better images are due of other sites as the LRO orbit gets lower.
Even better images are due of other sites as the LRO orbit gets lower.
Evan, how close to the surface is the LRO going to get?
I'm unsure, but closer still. Let me get back to you.
50 km final altitude.
QUOTE (Evan Burton @ Sep 4 2009, 11:15 AM) 
50 km final altitude.
Thanks, thats pretty close, the images should be even clearer
Of course, the truth is that no matter how clear the images are the hoaxers will simply say that NASAs had four decades to plant it, indeed, according to the "backwards speech" thread the LMs were sent down with the original missions, just minus any Astronauts, where they mechanically grabed moon rocks, so thats that mystery explained then LOL.
LOL! Nah. They'll claim they were sent down - sans astronauts - much later, probably the 90s or something.
Ahem.
Photoshop.
(Grabs coat and runs off down to the pub).
Photoshop.
(Grabs coat and runs off down to the pub).
QUOTE (Dave Greer @ Sep 6 2009, 01:48 AM)
Ahem.
Photoshop.
(Grabs coat and runs off down to the pub).
Photoshop.
(Grabs coat and runs off down to the pub).
KILL THE HERETIC!
The Apollo 17 site.
Case closed - Apollo really did happen.
Case closed - Apollo really did happen.
Fake Dutch 'Moon Rock' Revealed
A treasured piece at the Dutch national museum - a supposed moon rock from the first manned lunar landing - is nothing more than petrified wood, curators say.
It was given to former Prime Minister Willem Drees during a goodwill tour by the three Apollo-11 astronauts shortly after their moon mission in 1969.
When Mr Drees died, the rock went on display at the Amsterdam museum.
At one point it was insured for around $500,000 (£308,000), but tests have proved it was not the genuine article.
The Rijksmuseum, which is perhaps better known for paintings by artists such as Rembrandt, says it will keep the piece as a curiosity.
"It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, was quoted as saying by the Associated Press news agency.
"We can laugh about it."
The "rock" had originally been been vetted through a phone call to Nasa, she added.
The US agency gave moon rocks to more than 100 countries following lunar missions in the 1970s.
US officials said they had no explanation for the Dutch discovery.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8226075.stm
A treasured piece at the Dutch national museum - a supposed moon rock from the first manned lunar landing - is nothing more than petrified wood, curators say.
It was given to former Prime Minister Willem Drees during a goodwill tour by the three Apollo-11 astronauts shortly after their moon mission in 1969.
When Mr Drees died, the rock went on display at the Amsterdam museum.
At one point it was insured for around $500,000 (£308,000), but tests have proved it was not the genuine article.
The Rijksmuseum, which is perhaps better known for paintings by artists such as Rembrandt, says it will keep the piece as a curiosity.
"It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, was quoted as saying by the Associated Press news agency.
"We can laugh about it."
The "rock" had originally been been vetted through a phone call to Nasa, she added.
The US agency gave moon rocks to more than 100 countries following lunar missions in the 1970s.
US officials said they had no explanation for the Dutch discovery.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8226075.stm
QUOTE (Ron Ecker @ Oct 29 2009, 09:51 AM)
Fake Dutch 'Moon Rock' Revealed
A treasured piece at the Dutch national museum - a supposed moon rock from the first manned lunar landing - is nothing more than petrified wood, curators say.
It was given to former Prime Minister Willem Drees during a goodwill tour by the three Apollo-11 astronauts shortly after their moon mission in 1969.
When Mr Drees died, the rock went on display at the Amsterdam museum.
At one point it was insured for around $500,000 (£308,000), but tests have proved it was not the genuine article.
The Rijksmuseum, which is perhaps better known for paintings by artists such as Rembrandt, says it will keep the piece as a curiosity.
"It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, was quoted as saying by the Associated Press news agency.
"We can laugh about it."
The "rock" had originally been been vetted through a phone call to Nasa, she added.
The US agency gave moon rocks to more than 100 countries following lunar missions in the 1970s.
US officials said they had no explanation for the Dutch discovery.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8226075.stm
A treasured piece at the Dutch national museum - a supposed moon rock from the first manned lunar landing - is nothing more than petrified wood, curators say.
It was given to former Prime Minister Willem Drees during a goodwill tour by the three Apollo-11 astronauts shortly after their moon mission in 1969.
When Mr Drees died, the rock went on display at the Amsterdam museum.
At one point it was insured for around $500,000 (£308,000), but tests have proved it was not the genuine article.
The Rijksmuseum, which is perhaps better known for paintings by artists such as Rembrandt, says it will keep the piece as a curiosity.
"It's a good story, with some questions that are still unanswered," Xandra van Gelder, who oversaw the investigation that proved the piece was a fake, was quoted as saying by the Associated Press news agency.
"We can laugh about it."
The "rock" had originally been been vetted through a phone call to Nasa, she added.
The US agency gave moon rocks to more than 100 countries following lunar missions in the 1970s.
US officials said they had no explanation for the Dutch discovery.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8226075.stm
The very article you quoted said "The US agency gave moon rocks to more than 100 countries following lunar missions in the 1970s". This on the other hand was given in 1969 (before samples were given out) and to a private citizen. It was also far bigger than any official sample given out, did not have a mount and the accompanying plaque did NOT say it was a Moon rock. Most importantly, it is obviously, to anybody familiar with rocks and/or petrified wood, NOT a Moon rock as was quickly found out when somebody with a bit of scientific background took a look at it. Seems more like a case of somebody who didn't know any better just assumed it was a Moon rock.
QUOTE (Matthew Lewis @ Oct 29 2009, 03:24 PM)
Seems more like a case of somebody who didn't know any better just assumed it was a Moon rock.
Right. The three Apollo 11 astronauts who presented it to the prime minister didn't know it was petrified wood. Or maybe they did know, and were simply classless jerks.
QUOTE (Ron Ecker @ Oct 29 2009, 02:23 PM)
QUOTE (Matthew Lewis @ Oct 29 2009, 03:24 PM)
Seems more like a case of somebody who didn't know any better just assumed it was a Moon rock.
Right. The three Apollo 11 astronauts who presented it to the prime minister didn't know it was petrified wood. Or maybe they did know, and were simply classless jerks.
Except it wasn't presented to the prime minister by the Apollo astronauts but by an ambassador and from what I've read it was more of a personal gift, not presented in any ceremony or presentation. Again, there is no mount, the plaque doesn't say it is a Moon rock, it is far bigger than any other sample given out and it was a full year before any samples were given out. Again, seems more like a case of somebody who didn't know any better just assumed it was a Moon rock.
QUOTE (Matthew Lewis @ Oct 29 2009, 07:36 PM)
Except it wasn't presented to the prime minister by the Apollo astronauts but by an ambassador and from what I've read it was more of a personal gift, not presented in any ceremony or presentation.
You obviously know more about the story than I do. The article says the item was given to the prime minister during a goodwill tour by the astronauts. If that doesn't imply that the astronauts gave it to him, I don't know what does.
Also note that NASA reportedly confirmed that it was a moon rock. Lots of practical jokers around that place.
QUOTE (Ron Ecker @ Oct 29 2009, 03:07 PM)
QUOTE (Matthew Lewis @ Oct 29 2009, 07:36 PM)
Except it wasn't presented to the prime minister by the Apollo astronauts but by an ambassador and from what I've read it was more of a personal gift, not presented in any ceremony or presentation.
You obviously know more about the story than I do. The article says the item was given to the prime minister during a goodwill tour by the astronauts. If that doesn't imply that the astronauts gave it to him, I don't know what does.
Also note that NASA reportedly confirmed that it was a moon rock. Lots of practical jokers around that place.
It's an old story (late August). I've read some othe articles with more info as well as updates. Reportedly the "confirmation" was a phone call where whoever they talked to just repeated that there were hundreds of samples given out to various countries in the 70's. It sounded like the person they talked to didn't pay attention to the fact that this was acquired in 1969 and given to a private citizen and didn't bother to compare it to a list of known samples.
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Apollo was real. Deal with it.
Apollo was real. Deal with it.
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