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Peter Lemkin
Link: http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/54434

Guns and Butter - "Anthrax Wars" with investigative journalist, author and filmmaker, Eric Nadler


"Anthrax Wars" with investigative journalist, author and filmmaker, Eric Nadler, on the anthrax attacks of September 2001; the Ames Strain of anthrax; dead microbiologists Bruce Ivins and David Kelly; Bioport and the anthrax vaccine; the new vaccine growth industry; private bio labs and the new bio/military industrial complex. Eric Nadler and Bob Coen's new film, Anthrax War, will have its west coast premiere at the 9/11 Film Festival at the Grand Lake Theatre in Oakland on Thursday, September 10th, at 5:50pm. Eric Nadler will speak after the film. Complete film schedule at www.sf911truth.org
Andy Walker
Perhaps Peter you could post an index of links you would like us all to read to replace this determined campaign of yours to copy and paste all your self sustaining favourites all over the forum? This at least would offer us choice - something a 'democratic' like yourself would surely applaud unsure.gif
Peter Lemkin
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Perhaps Peter you could post an index of links you would like us all to read to replace this determined campaign of yours to copy and paste all your self sustaining favorites all over the forum? This at least would offer us choice - something a 'democratic' like yourself would surely applaud  unsure.gif


Rather off topic, no? A non-substantive post, Andy. Also, a very cleverly couched ad hom. I post what I think is important. Yesterday was the 8th anniversary of the 9-11 'Event'. One I am sure was either a LIHOP or MIHOP false-flag operation. [I am more convinced a small group behind [not so much inside] the government, although some were at the time, did it as MIHOP]. One of the keys to seeing that it was NOT done by any foreign terrorists are the Anthrax letters - sent mostly to those who were thinking to vote against the unPatriot Act; it being US-Military anthrax, NOT investigated by the FBI nor anyone else after a few days of faux-acting as doing such, and a patsy 'caught', conveniently having just committed suicide...and, IMO, innocent. It was clearly done in league with those who pulled-off 911 to scare the Congress and public to go along with the Patriot Act [long since written, published and ready to go - like the pre-planted explosives in the WTC and pre-planned military exercises designed to deplete/impede/confuse possible reactions to the staged events]. That you have no interest to understand how the world really operates - and 'buy' [or is that 'sell'] the mainstream propaganda line on all history and events it is, IMO, your problem, not mine. You have political conspiracy and JFK Assassination sections under 'controversial issues in history', yet seem determined to chase away or denigrate all those who would dare to challenge the official versions on all of the potential or named issues. Is this just a ploy to get more visits to the site? I am rather appalled by the box I see at the top of my screen when I look at the site. I says: 'Aliens - Freemasons secrets - Cia conspiracy theories - Government cover ups - Government conspiracy theories - Famous conspiracy theories - Conspiracy theory Jesus - Conspiracy theories - Conspiracy websites' and other such nonsense [and constructed to present it as 'nonsensical' - and is the largest and most prominent 'ad' on the top of the screen. It is either crass commercialism on a supposedly serious 'educational' site or an attempt to discredit/confound real conspiracies with nutty ones. Just because Elvis isn't living in a UFO doesn't mean that there are not real conspiracies past present and future. That is an old red herring - trying to paint anyone who believes in any alternative [to what the Oligarchy would like us to swallow in the way of historical propaganda] view to events as therefore believing in all 'conspiracies', fairies, and manner of nonsense. Many of the faux 'conspiracies' are even, IMO, concocted by the very entities that seek to cover-up the real ones.


If you want to discuss the Anthrax attacks, I'll engage you. If  you only want to throw rotten eggs - only demeaning yourself, IMO, I will not engage in such childish games. I seem to be your 'conspiracy whipping-boy de jour'. An honor.
Peter Lemkin
Fear and Terror on The Anthrax Trail

When the 2001 anthrax attacks hit the USA in the days following 9/11, it was like a one-two punch against the Republic. Workers in New York’s media center who had seen the planes swoop too low over their heads en route to the Twin Tower were now terrified of their mail. In Washington, Capitol Hill was evacuated and White House staffers were chewing CIPRO tablets.

It was our scariest collective nightmare come to life - the attack of deadly invisible bugs. It seemed like a self-fulfilling prophecy, the preceding years filled as they were with scores of films, best-selling books, TV shows and articles on the coming of “Bio-Terror.” Indeed, for the first time in history, national leaders and the military actually acted out high-tech “germ attack” war games, one of which had a scenario shockingly close to the actual events.

So after the government pledged the most thorough investigation it could muster, we hoped the feds would get to the bottom of it all. Thus, we were saddened but not really surprised when the attacks disappeared from public discourse - unmentioned, for example, by any major candidate during the 2008 election contest. And when the FBI announced suddenly last summer that the cold case was red-hot, identified a lone culprit - U.S. Army Scientist Bruce Ivins, just slain by his own hand, and quickly closed its seven-year investigation, it felt to us - and to most polled citizens - that something was not quite right.

In the 30 years we’ve covered international politics for newspapers, magazines and television networks, rarely - if ever - had we seen such a big story buried so deep. Relying on our network of government, journalistic and intelligence contacts, it soon became clear that the powers that be were for a variety of reasons loathe to open wide the Pandora’s box where the real anthrax answers could probably be found.

We’ve made a non-fiction film ignited by those germ attacks of 2001 and written a book to fill out a story that our 90-minute documentary could only outline. We invite you to come along for the ride and hope that the open minds that elected the new president are just as open to what we’ve learned about the new “Bio-Terror Industrial Complex”.

torrent download here http://isohunt.com/download/73630857...ax+war.torrent

Note: I think a very well done documentary that will keep you awake at night and thinking about it during the day! If you haven't yet seen this film, may I suggest it highly. It connects a few events most of us have not drawn lines between the dots on....South Africa's program to develop an ethnic bioweapon, the death of David Kelly, the assassination of Olsen in 1953 and his connnections to biowarfare, the post-911 anthrax attacks and the FBI's choice of a patsy in that case (or at the very least one person of MANY involved), the current privatization of biowarefare, 'Gulf-War Syndrome', MK/ULTRA, MK/NAOMI and other such - and much more in the secret world where offense is hidden as 'defense'; and where the 'enemy' is often (potentially) us. It was produced by the CBC and while it doesn't cover everything, it covers a lot of the story and connnects many dots, raises a LOT of disturbing questions that need answers and resolution soon.....or we may all find it a bit too late in the day.......for our comfort, or our survival.

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UK weapons inspector who was found dead was writing expose: paper

By John Byrne

Published: July 6, 2009

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/...r-dead-expose/

British weapons inspector Dr. David Kelly was writing an expose about his work with anthrax and his warnings that Iraq possessed no weapons of mass destruction at the time of his death in July 2003, according to a report published in a British newspaper.

Kelly’s death — said to have been a suicide — has stirred controversy, as it came on the heels of testimony to the House of Commons about a memo which purported that Britain had “sexed up” a dossier on Iraq’s alleged weapons of mass destruction. A Parliamentary inquiry ruled that the death had been suicide, though it also included testimony from a former British ambassador who quotes Kelly as having said, “I will probably be found dead in the woods” if Iraq were invaded.

The new report says Kelly had spoken with an Oxford publisher several times about a book.

“He had several discussions with a publisher in Oxford and was seeking advice on how far he could go without breaking the law on secrets,” the UK Daily Express alleged.

Kelly’s computers were seized in the wake of his death. He was a signatory to Britain’s Official Secrets Act, which allows for the prosecution of those who talk to the press about state secrets and prescribes a more stringent framework for secrecy than in the United States.

According to the paper, “he was intending to reveal that he warned Prime Minister Tony Blair there were no weapons of mass destruction anywhere in Iraq weeks before the British and American invasion… and was also intending to lift the lid on a potentially bigger scandal, his own secret dealings in germ warfare with the apartheid regime in South Africa.”

The allegations of a potential Kelly expose come from a new film about biological weapons being debuted in London on the sixth anniversary of Kelly’s death titled “Anthrax War” (the documentary aired earlier this year on Canadian public television). Kelly was an expert in biological warfare agents, as well as a former United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq.

‘Anthrax War’

‘‘The deeper you look into the murky world of governments and germ warfare, the more worrying it becomes,” the film’s director, Bob Coen, is quoted as saying. “We have proved there is a black market in anthrax. David Kelly was of particular interest to us because he was a world expert on anthrax and he was involved in some degree with assisting the secret germ warfare program in apartheid South Africa.”

According to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s summary of the film, Coen “was raised in Zimbabwe where the former white regime has been accused of unleashing anthrax against the black population… [who] embarks on a journey that raises troubling questions about the FBI’s investigation of the 21st century’s first act of biological terrorism.

“Coen’s investigation takes him from the U.S. to the U.K. and from the edge of Siberia to the tip of Africa. In a rare interview, Coen confronts ‘Doctor Death’ Wouter Basson, who headed Project Coast, the South African apartheid-era bio-warfare program,” the network’s website adds. “Project Coast used germ warfare against select targets within the country’s black population.

“Anthrax War also investigates the mysterious deaths of some of the world’s leading anthrax scientists, including Dr. David Kelly, the UK’s top military microbiologist, the Soviet defector Dr. Vladimir Pasechnik, and Dr. Bruce Ivins,” the CBC continues. “The FBI claims - despite the doubts of highly ranked U.S. officials - that Ivins was the only person behind the U.S. anthrax murders.”
 

Len Colby
QUOTE (Peter Lemkin @ Sep 12 2009, 03:19 AM) *
QUOTE (Andy Walker @ Sep 11 2009, 11:29 PM) *
Perhaps Peter you could post an index of links you would like us all to read to replace this determined campaign of yours to copy and paste all your self sustaining favorites all over the forum? This at least would offer us choice - something a 'democratic' like yourself would surely applaud  unsure.gif


Rather off topic, no? A non-substantive post, Andy. Also, a very cleverly couched ad hom.


LOL How stunningly hypocritical and ironic, Peter complaining about someone else making an " off topic..non-substantive post" and using an "ad hom"

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the Anthrax letters - sent mostly to those who were thinking to vote against the unPatriot Act;


Wrong they were sent to two of the bill's sponsors

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If  you only want to throw rotten eggs - only demeaning yourself, IMO, I will not engage in such childish games.


BS you do this all the time.

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Perhaps if you'd learn how to correctly post links someone will take a look at it.
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