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In 1953 Abraham Zapruder moved to Dallas and joined with Jeanne LeGon to form the clothing design firm called, Nardis of Dallas. Jeanne LeGon designed the clothing and Abraham Zapruder cut the patterns and the material for her. In 1959 the partnership broke up when Jeanne LeGon married George De Mohrenschildt.
Message from Gary Mack:
Zapruder and LeGon didn't FORM Nardis of Dallas, they were employed by the long-established firm, which was so large that the odds of them even knowing each other are small. I recall one Dallas history source suggesting the company had more than 100 employees. So before anyone starts a conspiracy theory based on Nardis, they need to research the company.To me, in my ignorance, I suppose, John's statement above, if true, is one more astonishing coincidence. For the above response to ignore the subtext of John's post in order to focus immediately on tangential lines i.e researching the company - is, to my mind, alarming. Though it mightn't be a bad idea to research the company - the few lines typed by John above are pregnant with possibility.
If what John says is true and even if it is not exactly correct then in 6-7 years working in same 'large' company of over 100 people I would absolutely expect that LeGon and Zapruder knew each other. If I were interested in any way with the assassination of JFK I would, amongst other things, be more concerned that in a country of several hundred million a person who worked with Zapruder, in a company in Dallas, married de Mohrenschildt.
This info is contained
at this site also - can anyone verify the claims made by the site and by John? The rebuttal by the 6th floor, seems aware of and accepting of the information, yet misdirects the researcher.
It's the first time I've heard this and I find it truly...coincidental

Some "stuff"...the common theme is that the Demohrenshildts and others with CIA ties seem to be everywhere. Note that Adamson twice mentions Vince Palamara, and that Adamson says Demohrenschildt's grandson married Mary Ferrell's granddaughter. I am willing to concede that coincidences are of no significance, but I doubt if homicide and other LEO related investigators will ever agree that this is so, in their own work experience:
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http://www.ciajfk.com/news4.html (Bottom two paragraphs)
...On other fronts, Marie Fehmer was top CIA senior officer while her mother Olga Fehmer had worked with, was friends with Mrs. George de Mohrenschildt and Abraham Zapruder. Marie Fehmer lives in D.C. and is a close friend of Senator Chuck Robb. Former Senator Robb of Virginia meets regularly with CIA Directors and is married LBJ's daughter. This was to my attention by JFK Assassination researcher
Vincent Palmara. Vincent was kind enough to share with me the 1989 video of CIA agent Marie Fehmer on the Today Show being interviewed by Jane Pauley.
It is interesting to note that Ben Gold who owned the company Nardis of Dallas sold his home in the 1950s to the Haliburton oil family. This home Jeanne Le Gon-de Mohrenschildt lived with Gold from 1953-54. Olga Fehmer, Jeanne and Abraham Zapruder all worked at Nardis of Dallas at this time.
http://www.ciajfk.com/C-D.html (Located in the bottom quarter of the page)
...Should the government purchase only the film for 16 million when Time-Life sold it back to the Zapruder family for a $1.00. All were tied to the CIA? LBJ's secretary Marie Fehmer's mother
Olga has said that Jeanne Le Gon was a very nice person at Nardis of Dallas when she too worked with Zapruder. Marie Fehmer was a guest on the "Today" Show, NBC, 1/12/89. After the actual interview was over (which was clearly edited for time constraints),
Jane Pauley was the one who mentioned, very matter-of-fact, that Marie Fehmer became one of the first women as a senior officer at the CIA. The odds of this being coincidental are like being struck by lightening three times, and walking away saying "I didn't feel a thing." Zapruder, Fehmer and de Mohrenschildt tied to the CIA, Nardis of Dallas, JFK assassination. NBC refused to release this segiment of the show after they told me I could purchase it for around $100....
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EI..._4/ai_55352214/Abraham Zapruder's Ties To CIA and Lee Harvey Oswald
Business Wire, August 4, 1999
SANTA CRUZ, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--
Aug. 4, 1999--Zapruder Arbitration Board has agreed to pay 16 million for the Zapruder film.
The question is whether Abraham Zapruder's family should be allowed to profit using the corporation LMH Inc. when in 1963 Zapruder belonged to the Dallas Council on World Affairs, a CIA front organization, as did de Mohrenschildt? George Bush's mentor Neil Mallon founded this organization.
In 1964 the Warren Commission found that Jeanne and her husband George de Mohrenschildt were Marina and Lee Oswald's closest friends.
Ten years before the assassination in 1953 Zapruder had worked with Jeanne de Mohrenschildt at the Nardis of Dallas clothing factory. Jeanne designed the clothes while Zapruder cut her patterns.
Not only did Jeanne and Zapruder worked together, they were in 1953 both friends with Olga Fehmer at Nardis of Dallas. Olga's daughter Marie would become the personal secretary of Lyndon Johnson's. Marie was on board Air Force One following JFK's death. The Fehmer family attended Senator Chuck Robb's wedding to Lynda Johnson.
Throughout the 1950s George de Mohrenschildt worked out of a CIA-trust building and exchanged letters in 1963 with LBJ seven months before JFK's death. De Mohrenschildt met with LBJ on April 26, and again on May 20th.
The man in charge of the CIA, President Bill Clinton's own lawyer, Robert Bennett represented the Zapruder Family in this case before the Zapruder Arbitration Board. Clinton's Attorney General appointed Al Gore's brother-in-law, Frank Hunger, to represent our Government's interest in the Zapruder case. Hunger quit after Adamson complained to Janet Reno of this conflict of interest.
George Bush Sr. was President and was responsible for signing into law in 1991-92 The JFK Assassination Records Review Board Act which took possession of Zapruder's film under this act.
George Bush, Sr. has written a letter admitting that he had known de Mohrenschildt since 1942.
Bush also knew LBJ was involved with The Bay of Pigs Invasion and Bush was briefed by J.E. Hoover on JFK's assassination on November 23, 1963. The Bush family has many ties to Oswald and de Mohrenschildt.
Adamson's research has been supported by President's Clinton's former White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta and an attorney for the California Attorney General's office who has won a U.S. Supreme court death penalty case.
http://www.ciajfk.com/harry.htmlThe Fourth Decade article reads as follows by Harrison Edward Livingstone Jan. 20, 2000 :
"Studying character as I do becausee I am an author isn't always accurate, but I have some perceptions of Abraham Zapruder from the films that have survived of him from the day of the assassination....Interestingly, Abraham Zapruder is a bit more inttimately connected to the JFK case than one might imagine.
In 1953-4 he worked at Nardis of Dallas, a dress manufacterer of fairly high class clothes. Working with him him was Jean {Jeanne] Le Gon, who designed clothing. Zapruder worked with her and cut the patterns and material. They were friendly. In 1959, Jean married George De Mohrenschildt, who later became very close to Lee Harvey Oswald, and the couple frequently both entertained the Oswalds and took them to parties where they met more high powered people. George was probably Lee Harvey Oswald's best friend.
Zapruder was also a member of a high powered club: The Dallas Council On World Affairs, and the Crusade For A Free Europe. Gregory Burnham tells us...."
The above points were copyrighted by Bruce Campbell Adamson and discovered in 1995 when Adamson went on ann eight month RV trip, it was published in the Dallas Morning News in 1992, was on Public Access Television with Charlie Reid in 1996. Adamson interviewed Olga Fehmer in 1995.
Credit should be given to Vincent Palymara for bringing to my attention that Marie Fehmer was one of the first women Senior Supervisors at the CIA.
Adamson sends Harry the following letter dated february 8,2005 suggesting to correct Marie Fehmer's name to Olga Fehmer's. By using Errata or correcting the material. Harry has told a friend "Sherry" that he would apologize for sending the emails below. Still have not heard back from him. Click Here Adamson's Feb. 8, 2005, letter to Harrison Livingstone.....
...ADAMSON responds all I desire is CREDIT for My research. After all I went to Dallas, Texas in 1995 on an eight month trip to uncover material on Dallas Council World Affairs; Olga Fehmer, Zapruder and Mrs. George de Mohrenschildt. Why is Harrison Livingstone protecting the CIA? In Harry's book he cites Paul Hoch who has attended Top Secret governmental meetings for the U.S. government. One Paul Hoch befriended Patty Hearst when she was on the run from the FBI. No one can find her, yet a Berkeley professor Paul Hoch does. When I asked Paul Hoch this he said "It is another Paul Hoch." So Harry respects Mr. Hoch's views. Mr. Hoch has worked for Peter Dale Scott another Berkeley Professor who wrote an article saying that de Mohrenschildt's father-in-law was one Wm. Stix Wasserman, which is again MISINFORMATION, de Mohrenschildt's father-in-law it turns out was in charge of 250 CIA agents 10 years before the JFK Assassination and his name was Samuel Walter Washington. The CIA has a way of misinforming everyone! Another point is that when Paul Hoch testified before this Top Secret meeting he was doing so with Ms. Meagher, Paul Hoch and Mary Ferrell. Hoch and Ferrell testified during the House Select Committee on Assassination Investigation. It was Mary Ferrell who produced the motorcyle dictaphne tape of the Dallas Police motorcyle policeman. The Late Mary Ferrell was considered one of the top JFK researchers in Dallas.
George de Mohrenschildt's grandson Curtis Lee Taylor married Mary Ferrell's granddaughter. Click Here for Paul Hoch's testimony page one.
Click Here for Paul Hoch's testimony page two...
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http://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/09/business...ml?pagewanted=5In Serving the Famous, Is a Ringside Seat Enough?
By DAVID J. MORROW
Published: Sunday, March 9, 1997
''Of course, no one was working for the money,'' said Ms. Fehmer, who also received a $3,000 bequest in President Johnson's will. ''An experience like that was priceless. And President Johnson let us get close to his family. I was in one of his daughter's weddings. But when it came to money and the hours involved, it sometimes didn't add up.''....
...While a mention in the will is nice, some executive secretaries say their role in making American history was its own reward. After Johnson left the White House in 1969, for example, Ms. Fehmer joined the Central Intelligence Agency, eventually working her way up to senior intelligence officer. The C.I.A. was tough turf for a woman.
''You learn to believe in yourself,'' Ms. Fehmer said. ''And a lot of that came from President Johnson. He believed that women were strong and were capable. I wouldn't trade my experience there for anything. I was at Parkland Hospital after President Kennedy's assassination and on Air Force One when President Johnson was sworn in. I had a front-row seat to history. How many people can say that?''...
It is not only the Demohrenschildts and Olga Fehmer's daughter who had ties to the CIA....here are the memoirs of WC commissioner and long time retired DCI
Allen Dulles's lover, Mary Bancroft, WWII OSS spy linked to a plot to kill Hitler, mentioning her friend, the mother of the Oswald's friend, Ruth Paine. Ruth Paine, the elder, was found later to be married to a CIA asset, and their other daughter,
Sylvia Hyde Hoke, worked full time for the CIA.
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http://books.google.com/books?um=1&q=+...nG=Search+BooksAutobiography of a spy - Page 55
Mary Bancroft - Biography & Autobiography - 1983 - 300 pages
So I got pregnant again and on May 15, 1930, our daughter, Mary Jane was born.
Toward the end of the summer of 1930 I went up to spend a few days with Ruth Paine at her family's summer house on Naushon Island off the....
http://books.google.com/books?um=1&q=s...nG=Search+BooksAutobiography of a spy - Page 59
Mary Bancroft - Biography & Autobiography - 1983 - 300 pages
1 got a divorce in Reno and in the summer of 1933 sent the children to visit him
and went abroad with Ruth Paine. We planned to spend the entire time at St. ....
Mr. Mack wants you to picture Nardis of Dallas as this big organization where Jeanne Le Gon and Zapruder were not likely to have met or interacted, but
that is not the impression the WC testimony, or what we have learned since, paints. Jeanne Le Gon was the talent, its seems she was a favorite of the Nardis
owners, the Golds. Zapruder was capable enough, by 1959, to leave Nardis and to start his own successful business. Le Gon and Zapruder are not simply seamstress and tailor, two of thousands, as in the picture Mr. Mack paints:
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http://www.jfk-assassination.de/warren/wch/vol9/page294.php...Mr. JENNER. All right. Now, eventually, you reached Texas. How did that happen?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, my daughter had asthma. She is a very allergic child. And her health was really terrible. In spite of all the care given to her, she just could not stand the New York climate. And our family doctor said the only way to save her--she was getting really sick from antibiotics and penicillin--is to change the climate.
So I was very anxious to change the climate going to California, that was my aim.
But I could not reach California. Mr. Gold, of Nardis Sportswear in New York, wanted to open a suit department. And, of course, the buyers did know me all over the country--the same buyers--recommended to get in touch with me and engage me. And it was pretty good. It was $20,000 a year, plus two trips to Europe, with expenses paid, and about $7,000 to buy the models--you just cannot go in and look at the shows.
So I decided I am going to go and do it. And Texas is better climate wise than New York.
And, believe me, my daughter never had asthma since she left New York. It is a fantastic change.
Mr. JENNER. Now, when did you go to Texas?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I went to Texas in 1953, I believe.
Mr. JENNER. 1953. Did your husband accompany you?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I came in the summer, and then I had to go immediately to Europe. And he came over in the fall, when my daughter returned from camp. He came over in the fall, and then shipped all the furniture.
In the meanwhile, I stayed with the Golds. They have a very big mansion.Mr. JENNER. Your husband left Dallas?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; he came in the fall of 1953.
Mr. JENNER. He came in the fall from New York City?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. And he was there how long did he stay?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. He stayed there until about February of 1954.
Mr. JENNER. And then he did what?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Then he went to California.
Mr. JENNER. Was he working?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No; he went to visit my brother for holidays. We always tried to go to California instead of going to Miami, to be with my brother. And he liked it so much, and we wanted so much to move to California. So we thought if he goes there, maybe he can locate something while I finish my contract. My contract was expiring in the spring of 1954.
Mr. JENNER. Your contract with Nardis?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; then I would go there, also, also in the late spring or early summer--maybe he can locate something in the meanwhile, in California.
And then I was very lucky. It was Mr. Gold's tough luck. But it was good luck for me, because he was indicted for taxes. There was a tremendous scandal. And he had two buildings--he lost one of the buildings. In other words, he could not afford even to go into the suit operation, and go ahead with it. So he was very glad that I asked for release, and he was glad to give it to me. He thought I am going to demand money and everything, because he wants to drop the contract before. And I was very glad. It worked out very nice for me. We remained good friends. And then I went to California.
Mr. JENNER. Did you work in California?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; I worked with Style Garments, a coat and suit firm....
....Mr. JENNER. Now, when did you meet your present husband?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. 1956.
Mr. JENNER. When you came back to Dallas?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. To design a collection. I was working there.
Mr. JENNER. And did his daughter as well as your daughter join you?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. She did, but later on.
Mr. JENNER. When was that?
Mrs. De MOHRENSCHILDT. She joined us in, I think, the spring of 1959.
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk...eMohren_2nd.pdf....Mr. JENNER.
Does this serve to refresh your recollection? Mr. Glover has stated that he had met Marina previously.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. At your home several times?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. It could be; yes.Mr. JENNER. It could be?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. It could be; yes.
Mr. JENNER. And had been invited to your home several times because she was a Russian-speaking person who was having marital difficulties with Lee Oswald?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Very possible, very possible. Now I recall even this, since you mention this. I suggested that they might live with Everett Glover, this couple.
Mr. JENNER. You made a suggestion?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. To whom?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. To Glover. "You have an empty house. Why don't you let them live with you and pay you so much per month?" And I think he declined that.
Mr. JENNER. He did organize this party, however?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Who? Everett?
Mr. JENNER. Yes.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Now he says it was on February 23, 19----
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. 1963.
Mr. JENNER. 1963?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. That is about it.
Mr. JENNER. Does that refresh your recollection?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; I was placing it around January or February; at that time.
Mr. JENNER. Did you attend that party?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; as far as I remember, I did.
Mr. JENNER. And Jeanne as well?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Who else was there?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. At this party was a lot of friends of Everett Glover's whose names I do not recall.
Mr. JENNER. Volkmar Schmidt?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes, yes; definitely. We called him Messer Schmidt. He is a German; very intelligent, young Ph.D. in sociology who also works at the same laboratory as Everett Glover.
Mr. JENNER. Magnolia?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Magnolia Laboratory.
Mr. JENNER. And was living with Glover at that time?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Was living with Glover at the time, I think.
Mr. JENNER. He was present?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. He is a bachelor?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. A bachelor.
Mr. JENNER. And who else?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I think we invited our neighbors, Mrs. Fox who lived right next door to us, to that party.
Mr. JENNER. Mrs. Fox?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. What is her first name?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Mary Fox.
Mr. JENNER. What is her husband's name?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. She is a widow. I think, but it might have been a different party, but I have the impression that she was there.
Mr. JENNER. Anybody else?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I think we invited our landlord also.Mr. JENNER. Who is your landlord?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I forgot his name. Anyway he is my landlord. I forgot his name. My wife has a better memory of names.
Mr. JENNER. Anybody else that you recall?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. And Ruth Paine.Mr. JENNER. Ruth Paine?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Had you ever met Ruth Paine before?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No; I think that was the first time we met Ruth Paine.
Mr. JENNER. You have never been in any singing groups with her?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No.
Mr. JENNER. Of which she was a member?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No, no.
Mr. JENNER. You did engage in some singing groups, did you not?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; but a different type of singing. I was engaged only in the church choir singing and I think she engaged in some sort of classical music singing.
Mr. JENNER. Madrigal?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I beg your pardon?
Mr. JENNER. Madrigal?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Madrigal; that is right. There is a group in Dallas to which Everett Glover belongs, you know, who I think spent some time singing in the madrigal.
Mr. JENNER. Have you exhausted your recollection now as to everybody who was present?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. There were quite a lot of people there, but if you mention the names I will say yes or no.
Mr. JENNER. I want you to exhaust your recollection first.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I am not so sure. I think my daughter was there.
Mr. JENNER. Alex?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Alex. I don't remember if Gary was there.
Mr. JENNER. That is her husband?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Her husband. see, we showed our movie quite a few times.
Mr. JENNER. Did you show it that night?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. I think we showed the movie that night.
WC described Demohrenschildt's testimony as to how Ruth Paine was lined up to come into contact with the Oswalds, as if Demohrenschildt's own attorney got
to write the account for the record:
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http://books.google.com/books?ei=bxrySq_aG...nG=Search+BooksThe Warren report: report of the President's Commission on the Assassination ... - Page 117
United States. Warren Commission - Biography & Autobiography - 1964 - 366 pages
Ruth Paine speaks Russian, however, and for this reason was invited to a party
in February of 1963 at which she became acquainted with the Oswalds. .