Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Some more coincidences
The Education Forum > Controversial Issues in History > JFK Assassination Debate
Pages: 1, 2
Mark Valenti
Carlos Marcello: "Take this stone out of my shoe."


Oswald's mother worked for Burt's Shoe Store (1117 Canal Street) in New Orleans.

Oswald was a stock boy for the Dolly Shoe Store. (Warren Report, 679-80).
Thomas H. Purvis
QUOTE (Mark Valenti @ Apr 11 2007, 03:44 PM) *
Carlos Marcello: "Take this stone out of my shoe."


Oswald's mother worked for Burt's Shoe Store (1117 Canal Street) in New Orleans.

Oswald was a stock boy for the Dolly Shoe Store. (Warren Report, 679-80).



Well!

There are "coincidences", and then there are communications channel networks.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date 11/26/63

Airman Second Class PALMER E. McBRIDE was interviewed at Air Police Headquarters, Patrick Air Force Base, Florida, and furnished the following signed statement:

"Patrick Air Force Base,
Florida
November 23, 1963


"In April or May, 1958, OSWALD stated he was moving to Ft. Worth, Texas, with his mother. In about August, 1958, I received a letter from him saying he was employed as a shoe salesman in Ft. Worth. In this letter he also stated he had gotten mixed up in an Anti-Negro or Anti-Communist riot on a high school grounds in Ft. Worth, Texas. OSWALD did not elaborate on this statement.

"I did not answer this letter, and I have not had further contact or communication with OSWALD.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Name: BURT'S SHOE STORES, INC.

Domicile Address: 1006 HIBERNIA BANK BUILDING, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112

File Date: 10/10/1955


President: BERNARD EDISON, 501 N. BROADWAY, ST. LOUIS, MO 63102

Vice President: THOMAS MCCAIN, 501 N. BROADWAY, ST. LOUIS, MO 63102

Secretary: ERIC P. NEWMAN, 501 N. BROADWAY, ST. LOUIS, MO 63102


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don't know exactly who "Burt" was supposed to be, but the Edison Shoe Company is quite well known.


http://www.answers.com/topic/edison-brothers-stores-inc

By the mid 1960s, Edison stores were continuing to achieve record sales and profit growth. Sales in 1964 were growing at a rate of ten percent, and the four main Edison store chains, Baker's, Chandler's, Leed's, and Burt's reported a net income of $1.15 per share, up from $1.04 per share from the year
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Anyone recall any specifics in regards to St. Louis, MO and the organized crime network?

Answer here:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

How about Jack Ruby and any connectins to St. Louis, MO?

Answer here:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

How about New Orleans, LA to St. Louis, MO connections?

Answer here:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Other connections?

Answer here:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A "new pair of shoes" is not necessarily a new pair of shoes!
Kathleen Collins
QUOTE (Tom Marchand @ Sep 29 2005, 05:12 AM) *
QUOTE (John Dolva @ Sep 28 2005, 09:12 PM)
What if...the assassination had failed? What if Kennedy had emerged unscathed?


I seem to remember reading that there was a plan B if Kennedy was not shot. Apparently there was a car bomb that was to be detonated close to the motorcade.


I recall reading that there were shooters on Stemmons Freeway and at the Trade Mart. Kennedy wasn't getting out of there alive. In 3 films, including the Z-film, I think the Nix film and possibly the Bell film, you can see a man running as though his life depended on it, from the triple underpass and across to Commerce St. I dubbed him "Running Man" sometime back because he was running toward the assassination. That afternoon, the FBI received an anonymous call from a man claiming he had stood under the underpass and saw a signal and heard bullets ring out. Strangely, as he's running towards the Assassination, you can see him flinching as he gets near Kennedy's limo. Someone on another forum suggested he'd seen a baseball go up in the air. But there was also the Cuban and the Umbrella Man -- more signals. Maybe he saw a rifle at the 6th floor window (Lee Oswald, not Harvey).

Kathy
William O'Neil
QUOTE (John Dolva @ Nov 1 2005, 05:46 PM) *
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


"A League of Their Own:
A Look Inside the Christian Defense League

By D. Boylan



The United States during the 1950s experienced an unparalleled growth of extremist organizations from the John Birch Society on the right to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee on the left. The heating up of the Cold War, the Supreme Court's decision to end segregation in 1954, and the establishment of a Communist Cuba in 1959 spurred this growth. One of the lesser known but more influential right wing fringe organizations that were formed during this period was the Christian Defense League (CDL). The CDL managed to meld anti-communism, anti-Semitism, anti-Castro activities, and a hatred of the "liberal" policies of the Kennedy Administration into a cohesive whole. It is in this context that the CDL will be examined.

The driving forces behind the rise of the CDL were Reverend Wesley A. Swift and Colonel William Potter Gale. It seemed inevitable that they would gravitate toward each other. Their religious beliefs were similar: both were adherents of what is now called Christian Identity, an updated version of the earlier British Israelite Movement that originated in the late nineteenth century. Christian Identity adherents believe that those of Celtic, Anglo-Saxon, Nordic, or Aryan origin were the true Israelites, "the sons of Adam", and that those of Jewish origin were "the sons of Satan."

The origin of the Christian Defense League is clouded. Some accounts credit its founding to the Reverend Swift, while Colonel Gale gives credit to Reverend San Jacinto Capt. Capt, a Baptist minister, was one of the early pioneers in the Identity Movement. Gale says "the idea of the Christian Defense League was entirely that of Reverend San Jacinto Capt. He proposed it to me [Col. Gale] who prepared the initial material in the form of a letter entitled, "The NAACP represents the negro; the ADL represents the Jews; who represents YOU — the white Christian?" "


--------------------

"The first indication that the Swift/Gale complex was interested in more than preaching religion came from George Harding in April 1963 when he informed the FBI that he was being recruited to become part of an eight man team to assassinate three hundred public officials in high positions of government. According to WCD 39 and WCD 1107 "Harding claimed that the leaders in the group were Dr. Wesley Swift, James Shoup and others.... The second in command was a Colonel William Gale...who was supposed to have been the youngest intelligence officer under MCARTHUR (sic)."

A related incident also occurred that April. Los Angeles physician Dr. Stanley Drennan approached Captain Robert K. Brown, who was also involved in anti-Castro activities during this period, stated that "while at Drennan's home, Drennan stated in general conversation that he could not do it, but what the organization needed was a group of young men to get rid of Kennedy and the Cabinet…Brown stated that he considered the remark crackpot; however …he gained the impression that Drennan had been propositioning him on this matter. Drennan, a member of the National States Rights Party and associate of William Gale." Drennan complained in a letter to Dean Clarence Manion, a prominent member of the John Birch Society, that on June 10, 1963 two Secret Service agents visited two of his friends at 7:30 am to inquire about his "patriotism, integrity, dependability, and emotional and mental stability. These people were twenty miles East of my dwelling while I was only two miles from where the President was riding in an open convertible sitting high on the back of the seat."

The Secret Service and FBI generated another report in August 1963 by the arrest of Gale's associate George King, Jr. King was overheard discussing the possibility of assassinating the president and was later arrested that month for the sale of illegal firearms. A later FBI field report, CO2-26104 #6419, stated "King is extreme right wing, hates Jews, was arrested by ATF O'Neil for illegal possession of firearms. Emotionally unstable. Arrested 2-29-68 again. This time for CCU, John Bircher, Christian Def. League (sic), Am Nazi Party, Christian Defense League."

There was yet another pre-assassination report (November 15, 1963) of a plot to assassinate "the President and other high-level officials" by a "militant group of the National States Rights Party." The FBI dismissed the report because they felt the subject was trying to make a deal because of pending criminal charges. This was not the well-documented November 9, 1963 report of Joseph A. Milteer's accurate prediction that Kennedy would be shot "from an office building with a high powered rifle." Milteer was also a member of the NSRP and ran for governor of Georgia on the Constitution Party ticket the same year that William Gale switched from the Constitution Party to the Republican Party to run for governor of California.

Evidence suggests that Gale and Milteer were acquainted. Both attended the gathering of the Constitution Party in Indianapolis, Indiana during October 18-20, 1963. Also in attendance were notable right wing extremists General Pedro Del Valle, Curtis Dall of the Liberty Lobby, Colonel Arch Roberts who was the architect of General Edwin Walker's "Pro Blue" program in the military, Richard Cotten, editor of The Conservative Viewpoint, Jack Brown, Klan leader James Venable[28], and Kenneth Goff, Constitution Party Committee member and leader of the paramilitary group Soldiers of the Cross, a Minutemen affiliate. Goff wrote an article for The White Sentinel, that Oswald "called me, before a meeting in a Dallas hotel about a year ago (December 1962) he poured out his pro-Communist venom….His Red record was no secret to those fighting Communism in the Texas area.""



John, Do you remember where you got that qoute source from Goff, re Oswald calling him? That is very interesting to me. Did you actually find the issue of the White Sentinal?
Thanks
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2009 Invision Power Services, Inc.