A very merry Christmas, and a happy new year to all Forum members. Especially JFK research types (you know who you are) STEVE T......

QUOTE (Stephen Turner @ Dec 19 2005, 05:10 PM)

A very merry Christmas, and a happy new year to all Forum members. Especially JFK research types (you know who you are) STEVE T......

Same to you Stephen, and to all others here. Have a safe holiday.

Dawn

I would like to wish all forum members compliments of the season. Also don't forget it should be a good old fashioned pagan feast of over indulgence and worldly pleasure... I can't stand it when spirituality starts creeping in on the thing and spoiling the atmosphere - infact the season seems quite unjustifiably to be getting more religious every year

Thanks Steve, I wish you and all other forum members a happy, safe Christmas and New Year.

Yes, I have noticed this creeping into the Winter solstice celebration, when I were a lad the ability to eat your own body weight in mince pies was considered far more important than the virgin birth, Christmas started at 4 in the morning as carefully wrapped presents were torn assunder, carried on though a welter of nuts, tangerines, copious ammounts of turkey and Pudding, the great escape, and wizzard of oz, and ended listening to various grandma's and maiden aunts list who had died that year, and which parts of their bodys were currently in terminal shutdown, whilst consuming a seemingly never ending supply of Port and Lemon. Jesus, the three wise men, and Mary never got a look in....

Every Christmas we retell this heartwarming story:

During the war my family received food from relatives in Australia. Memorably they received a letter and ingredients for a Christmas pudding., Due to a lack of consideration by U boats the letter and the parcel did not arrive at the same time.

Consequently they received the parcel, part of which was separated off in a cardboard compartment and seemed to contain a grey powder. Nothing daunted this was stirred into the pudding and nobody thought anything more about it.

The letter arrived in the new year and contained news of the family, who were all doing well apart from Auntie Polly who had sadly died, "we are returning her ashes for burial in the UK."

Enjoy your Christmas pudding everybody and remember Auntie Polly.

(I was told when I was older that Auntie Polly was an urban myth, but the same brother who told me also said Santa wasn't real so could I trust him?)

ha ha ha great story!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone. My winter break just started today. Enjoy and be safe.

Thank you Anh. It was my birthday today (and my father was a carpenter!) and my sons gave me a Mr Happy tie.....and Mr Grumpy socks. Take the change out of that.

QUOTE (Derek McMillan @ Dec 26 2005, 09:53 PM)

QUOTE (Anh Le @ Dec 22 2005, 11:04 PM)

ha ha ha great story!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone. My winter break just started today. Enjoy and be safe.

Thank you Anh. It was my birthday today (and my father was a carpenter!) and my sons gave me a Mr Happy tie.....and Mr Grumpy socks. Take the change out of that.

What a funny story Derek. (myth or not). Have a safe, and happy holiday everyone.

Dawn

Thank you Dawn. Merry Christmas to all members, super or otherwise.

Another year has passed... It's been several months since I have been on the forum, but Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year everyone!

Merry Christmas everone where ever you are!!

I am starting my holiday early and promised myself to only be an observer over the next few days. I dont want any regrets about a Jack on the Rocks induced post.

Peter

For the physics and comparative religion teachers here.

Do you believe in Santa Claus?

This is a complex theological question that each child must decide for him- or herself. Until now, that is. With the aid of computers, SPY JR. has conducted a rigorous STATISTICAL investigation into the question of Santa's existence. Be forewarned: you may no like our conclusions.

We begin our investigation by assuming that Santa Claus really does exist. Now, if you've learned anything about human nature, you know it's highly unlikely that a normal man would choose, for no particular reason, to devote his life to making toys and delivering them to boys and girls the world over. But this is an OBJECTIVE inquiry, and questions of motivation aren't relevant. We want only to know whether such a man could accomplish his mission.

Santa's first obstacle, is that NO KNOWN SPECIES OF REINDEER CAN FLY. However, scientists estimate that out of the earth's roughly 2 million species of living organisms, 300,000 or so have yet to be classified. So, even though most of these undiscovered species are insects and germs, we can't rule out the possibility that a species of flying reindeer does, in fact, exist. And that no one besides Santa has ever seen one.


A bigger obstacle for Santa is that there are 2 billion children under the age of 18 in the world. The good news is that he needs to deliver presents only to CHRISTIAN children, of whom there are approximately 378 million (according to figures provided by the Population Reference Bureau). Let's assume that 15 percent of these Christian children have been bad and are thus -- like Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist children -- ineligible for gift getting. Still, at an average rate of 3.5 children per household, Santa has a backbreaking 91.8 million homes to visit on any given Christmas Eve.

Fortunately, Santa has 31 hours of Christmas Eve darkness to visit all these homes if he travels from east to west, thanks to the rotation of the earth. Unfortunately, this still works out to 822.6 visits per second. So, for each Christian household with good children, Santa has just over a thousandth of a second to land, hop out of his sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the rest of the presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left out, get back up the chimney, climb back into his sleigh, take off and fly to the next house.

How fast is Santa moving? Assuming all 91.8 million stops are spread evenly over the earth's landmass, Santa must travel 0.79 miles per household -- a total trip of 72,522,000 miles. (This is a conservative estimate. It doesn't include trips across oceans, feeding stops for the reindeer, etc.) Given the 31-hour time period, Santa's sleigh must maintain an average speed of 650 miles per second, or more than 3,000 times the speed of sound. To give you an idea of how fast that is, the fastest man-made vehicle ever built, the ULYSSES space probe, travels at a relatively poky pace of 27.4 miles per second, and conventional, land-bound reindeer travel at a top speed of 15 miles per hour. But let's just assume that Santa's flying reindeer are somehow able to reach hypersonic speeds -- thanks, say to the magical spirit of Christmas giving.

Let's take a closer look at Santa's vehicle. First of all, assuming a cheapo 2 pounds of presents per child (that..s like one crummy Lego set), the sleigh must still be able to carry a load of 321,300 tons -- plus Santa, an overweight man. On land, a reindeer can't pull more than 300 pounds of freight, and even assuming that flying reindeer could pull ten times that amount, Santa's massive sleigh has to be drawn by 214,200 beasts. They increase the weight of the overall Santa payload to 353,430 tons (not including the weight of the sleigh itself). This is more than four times the weight of the QUEEN ELIZABETH ocean liner. Imagine: Santa skimming over rooftops in a gargantuan hypersonic aircraft with even less maneuverability that a Big Wheel.

Here's where things get fun.

Three hundred fifty-three thousand tons of reindeer and presents are going to create an enormous amount of air resistance -- especially at 650 miles per second. This air resistance will heat the reindeer in the same way that spaceships are heated up when they reenter the earth..s atmosphere. According to our calculations, the lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14.3-quintillion joules of energy per second each. This means they will burst into spectacular, multicolored flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them. As Santa continues on his mission -- leaving deafening sonic booms in his wake -- charred reindeer will constantly be sloughed off. All 214,200 reindeer will be dead within 4.26 thousandths of a second.

As for Santa, he will be subjected to centrifugal forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250-pound Santa will be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,375,015 pounds of force (after we deduct his weight). This force will kill Santa instantly, crushing his bones, pulverizing his flesh, turning him into pink goo. In other words, if Santa tries to deliver presents on Christmas Eve to every qualified boy and girl on the face of the earth, he will be liquefied.

If he even exists, he's already dead.

So where DO presents come from? Weirdly kindhearted intruders? Stupid robbers? Magic? Your parents, maybe?


From Spy magazine 1990