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Jane Waite

Apr 4 2006, 11:10 PM

Hi guys, I've been asked to identify/translate a ?dutch german badge/medallion ?dutch nazi medal with a wolftrap symbol on the front over the traditional swastika. The wording on the front is as follows :- LOTSVERBONDENHEID.10.14.MEI 1940
and on the back is the following inscription:- DIETSCHERS EN DUITSCHERS
SAAMGEDREVEN DOORHET. LOT
VEREEND ????VAAR

VERBONDEN IN DE TOEKOMST.

I can provide photographs of this if it helps. Can't find it in German insignia books, but think it issued by Germans to Dutch Nazi party, after invasion of May 1940.
Would love to know the history behind this if anyone can help.

Ed Waller

Apr 5 2006, 12:42 AM

You'll need someone who speaks Dutch... (which REALLY isn't me! And what follows is with apologies to those who do!!)

It seems to be something to commemorate the end of the war between Thrid Riech and Netherlands. It talks of destiny, solidarity, and has a some marine imagery about floating and sailing united and linked in the future.

John Simkin

Apr 5 2006, 06:23 AM

I have asked Nico to comment on this.

Nico Zijlstra

Apr 5 2006, 07:18 AM

QUOTE (Jane Waite @ Apr 4 2006, 10:10 PM)

Hi guys, I've been asked to identify/translate a ?dutch german badge/medallion ?dutch nazi medal with a wolftrap symbol on the front over the traditional swastika. The wording on the front is as follows :- LOTSVERBONDENHEID.10.14.MEI 1940
and on the back is the following inscription:- DIETSCHERS EN DUITSCHERS
SAAMGEDREVEN DOORHET. LOT
VEREEND ????VAAR

VERBONDEN IN DE TOEKOMST.

I can provide photographs of this if it helps. Can't find it in German insignia books, but think it issued by Germans to Dutch Nazi party, after invasion of May 1940.
Would love to know the history behind this if anyone can help.

The badge is Dutch.

The wolfstrap symbol is a a symbol used by the NSB, the Dutch Nazi Party led by A. Mussert.

You might find the symbol here: http://www.atlasgeo.net/fotw/flags/qt-z_sym.html#88

The text commemorates the German invasion in the Netherlands on May 10th -14th 1940.

FATE HAS JOINED US TOGETHER 10.14 MAY 1940
DUTCH AND GERMANS (Dietschers=poetic old fashioned word for the Dutch, here it is obviously used to match the word 'Duitschers', the normal word for Germans)
DRIVEN TOGETHER BY FATE
UNIFIED IN DANGER (in gevaar?) (please send me a clear photograph)

BOUND IN THE FUTURE

Jane Waite

Apr 5 2006, 09:21 AM

QUOTE (Nico Zijlstra @ Apr 5 2006, 07:18 AM)

QUOTE (Jane Waite @ Apr 4 2006, 10:10 PM)

Hi guys, I've been asked to identify/translate a ?dutch german badge/medallion ?dutch nazi medal with a wolftrap symbol on the front over the traditional swastika. The wording on the front is as follows :- LOTSVERBONDENHEID.10.14.MEI 1940
and on the back is the following inscription:- DIETSCHERS EN DUITSCHERS
SAAMGEDREVEN DOORHET. LOT
VEREEND ????VAAR

VERBONDEN IN DE TOEKOMST.

I can provide photographs of this if it helps. Can't find it in German insignia books, but think it issued by Germans to Dutch Nazi party, after invasion of May 1940.
Would love to know the history behind this if anyone can help.

The badge is Dutch.

The wolfstrap symbol is a a symbol used by the NSB, the Dutch Nazi Party led by A. Mussert.

You might find the symbol here: http://www.atlasgeo.net/fotw/flags/qt-z_sym.html#88

The text commemorates the German invasion in the Netherlands on May 10th -14th 1940.

FATE HAS JOINED US TOGETHER 10.14 MAY 1940
DUTCH AND GERMANS (Dietschers=poetic old fashioned word for the Dutch, here it is obviously used to match the word 'Duitschers', the normal word for Germans)
DRIVEN TOGETHER BY FATE
UNIFIED IN DANGER (in gevaar?) (please send me a clear photograph)

BOUND IN THE FUTURE

Thank you so much for your help. I am not sure how to send you a photo on this site.

Jane Waite

Apr 5 2006, 09:41 AM

I think this will do it.

if you double click the photos they get bigger.

Nico Zijlstra

Apr 5 2006, 06:16 PM

QUOTE (Jane Waite @ Apr 5 2006, 08:41 AM)

I think this will do it.

if you double click the photos they get bigger.

Hello Jane,
My guess "VEREEND ????VAAR"="vereend in gevaar" was correct.
The translation was ok from the beginning.
Nico

Jane Waite

Apr 5 2006, 10:26 PM

Sir, i am indebted to you for being so kind and helpful. Thank you for your time. If you ever need a nurse.....

The lady who owns the medal had it handed down from her grandfather, from the North East England, who was a merchant sailor in the arctic convoys. not sure how he got it though!