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John Simkin
I thought considering this information it would be a good idea to start a thread on Larry Stern.

QUOTE(Sterling Seagrave @ Jan 29 2007, 09:25 PM) [snapback]91604[/snapback]
QUOTE(John Simkin @ Jan 27 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]91218[/snapback]
Do you have any information on why Phil Graham and Larry Stern were "snuffed"?


Larry was a close friend of mine, and became assistant managing editor of the WashPost. He was by far their star investigative reporter, and made a lot of enemies during the LTV scandal, the Bobby Baker scandal, and many others. He knew who had been involved in the JFK assassination. It was because he was totally straight (and a true champion of the underdog) that he was not chosen to become managing editor. Eventually, it was decided to get rid of him, so the Agency (or the Enterprise – meaning the privatized part of the Agency) had Larry shot with a compressed air rifle firing a tiny dart, the same method used on Schlei, and on many others. The choice of poisons varies, depending on the objective. This almost invisible dart has a much greater range than the jeweler’s watch bearing fired by the equivalent Soviet assassination weapon, used on the Bulgarian emigres. If you find this hard to believe, look closely at the snuffing of Dr. Richard Kelly in UK. As to Phil Graham, he was up to his ears in the manipulation of JFK in behalf of LBJ and the Robber Barons – as you’ve shown. Like several other big players, he began to go bonkers with the burden of what he had been involved in, was drinking heavily, whoring around so that Kay Graham was mightily pissed, and there were many of us at the WashPost who concluded that his purported suicide did not wash. It was an assisted suicide.

John Simkin
It seems that Larry's son is also an investigative journalist:

http://www.sdcitybeat.com/article.php?id=3834

http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=4080


http://copleydc.com/copleydc_staff/Stern/stern.htm
William Kelly
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COPLEY News Service, out of San Diego, California, is CIA MOCKINGBIRD all the way. For Coply CIA ties see Penthouse magazine feature article;

Also note May 2006 story, Feds raid CIA officer home, and how this guy was recruited into the CIA from the DA office because of his ties to the local YOUNG REPUBLICANS, a hive of domestic terrorits for sure....

BK
John Simkin
Photograph of Larry Stern:

Sterling Seagrave
My expertise on this topic comes from my research for YELLOW RAIN during which I became a very close friend of the chief forensic pathologist at the Agency, Dr. Christopher ("Kit") Green, who was here visiting last year with his second wife.

During that period (late 1970s, early 1980s) I was able to study snuffing methods of both the KGB and the Agency, and the pharmacopia, discussing much of this with Kit.

Larry Stern's death was described in the press as an incident while jogging on a beach in Martha's Vineyard with a friend, wearing a bathing suit.

He suddenly felt a beesting on his calf, halted and reached down presumably to brush off the bee (or whatever), and fell over dead. It was postulated that he died from a coronary caused by a blood clot or something, and as I recall there was no autopsy because it was portrayed as a perfectly natural thing to happen. Sometimes when you get a coronary, you feel it first as a sharp pain in some other part of the body. But as you learn fro studying snake venoms, neurotoxic venoms from vipers kill you in seconds, while haemotoxic venoms like those from cobras take as much as a minute or longer to travel through your bloodstream from your ankle or calf to your heart. This would obviously be the case with a blood clot. The key here is that Larry (and Norbert Schlei and others I've studied) felt a sting on the ankle, calf or thigh and then fell down dead in a matter of four or five seconds.

Larry had a lot of enemies in high positions, including some at the WashPost where Larry always was a champion of the Post's labor unions.

Larry's father had spent his life as a typesetter at the WashPost, so Larry was a champion of the underdog. And, as you know, champions of the underdog are often seen as pariahs by the Oligopoly. It was Larry who broke the Ling-Temco-Vought and Bobby Baker scandals, and many others, and the powers that be at the WashPost disliked him enough to by-pass him when it came time to appoint one of the Assistant Managing Editors to be the new Managing Editor.

The guy they chose was a total, devious, scumbag, perpetual turncoat. Then, of course, when Kay died, little Donny took over the WashPost, and little Donny had grown up inside the Poohbah cabal. For many years, Donny made the WashPost a far right antithesis of what it had seemed to be during the Bobby Baker and Watergate years. But it was ALWAYS an Establishment/Cabal newspaper, merely posing as champion of Liberalism. Much as Averell Harriman posed as a Liberal, and member of the Democratic Party, when he was the owner of NEWSWEEK during the years NEWSWEEK colluded in the rescue of Hirohito, the snuffing of war crimes investigators, and the rescue of indicted war criminals from Sugamo Prison. See our THE YAMATO DYNASTY for all of that.
Miles Scull
QUOTE(Sterling Seagrave @ Feb 3 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]92490[/snapback]
My expertise on this topic comes from my research for YELLOW RAIN during which I became a very close friend of the chief forensic pathologist at the Agency, Dr. Christopher ("Kit") Green, who was here visiting last year with his second wife.

During that period (late 1970s, early 1980s) I was able to study snuffing methods of both the KGB and the Agency, and the pharmacopia, discussing much of this with Kit.

Larry Stern's death was described in the press as an incident while jogging on a beach in Martha's Vineyard with a friend, wearing a bathing suit.

He suddenly felt a beesting on his calf, halted and reached down presumably to brush off the bee (or whatever), and fell over dead. It was postulated that he died from a coronary caused by a blood clot or something, and as I recall there was no autopsy because it was portrayed as a perfectly natural thing to happen. Sometimes when you get a coronary, you feel it first as a sharp pain in some other part of the body. But as you learn fro studying snake venoms, neurotoxic venoms from vipers kill you in seconds, while haemotoxic venoms like those from cobras take as much as a minute or longer to travel through your bloodstream from your ankle or calf to your heart. This would obviously be the case with a blood clot. The key here is that Larry (and Norbert Schlei and others I've studied) felt a sting on the ankle, calf or thigh and then fell down dead in a matter of four or five seconds.

Larry had a lot of enemies in high positions, including some at the WashPost where Larry always was a champion of the Post's labor unions.

Larry's father had spent his life as a typesetter at the WashPost, so Larry was a champion of the underdog. And, as you know, champions of the underdog are often seen as pariahs by the Oligopoly. It was Larry who broke the Ling-Temco-Vought and Bobby Baker scandals, and many others, and the powers that be at the WashPost disliked him enough to by-pass him when it came time to appoint one of the Assistant Managing Editors to be the new Managing Editor.

The guy they chose was a total, devious, scumbag, perpetual turncoat. Then, of course, when Kay died, little Donny took over the WashPost, and little Donny had grown up inside the Poohbah cabal. For many years, Donny made the WashPost a far right antithesis of what it had seemed to be during the Bobby Baker and Watergate years. But it was ALWAYS an Establishment/Cabal newspaper, merely posing as champion of Liberalism. Much as Averell Harriman posed as a Liberal, and member of the Democratic Party, when he was the owner of NEWSWEEK during the years NEWSWEEK colluded in the rescue of Hirohito, the snuffing of war crimes investigators, and the rescue of indicted war criminals from Sugamo Prison. See our THE YAMATO DYNASTY for all of that.


Sterling Seagrave,

Please advise how to obtain the two CDs which accompany Gold Warriors. Thanks!

Miles Scull
Michael Hogan
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Please advise how to obtain the two CDs which accompany Gold Warriors. Thanks!

http://www.bowstring.net/

Click the Buy Now tab. Apologies for answering for Mr. Seagrave.
Miles Scull
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QUOTE(Miles Scull @ Feb 6 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]92947[/snapback]
Please advise how to obtain the two CDs which accompany Gold Warriors. Thanks!

http://www.bowstring.net/

Click the Buy Now tab. Apologies for answering for Mr. Seagrave.


Thanks for assistance, Mr. Hogan.
Nathaniel Heidenheimer
I am currently reading Jim Hougan's book Secret Agenda: Watergate, Deep Throat, and the CIA. A footnote on page 53 mentions Laurence Stern:

... In 1965 a firm called Psychological Assessment Associates Inc., was established with headquarters in Washington D.C.
Founded by two retired CIA psychologists, the firm's mains source of funding was the CIA. See Laurence Stern, "Behind
Psychological Assessment's Door, a CIA Operation," Washington Post, June 21, 1974, p A3.

Has anyoned ever read this article, or has anyone heard of this CIA front company before? Did Laurence Stern write other articles about the CIA's
involvement in psychological research? Had he written about MKULTRA?
John Simkin
In 1979 the Washington Post created the Laurence Stern Fellowship for young journalists from Britain. The first twenty-seven fellows were:- David Leigh, James Naughtie, Penny Chorlton, Ian Black, Mary Ann Sieghart, Lionel Barber, Ewen MacAskill, Sarah Helm, Edward Vulliamy, Adela Gooch, Keith Kendrick, Liz Hunt, Jonathan Freedland, Ian Katz, Rebecca Fowler, Sarah Neville, Gary Younge, Audrey Gillan, Caroline Daniel, Will Woodward, Cathy Newman, Glenda Cooper, Helen Rumbelow, Tania Branigan, Mary Fitzgerald, Sam Coates and Anushka Asthana.

http://www.allmediascotland.com/diary/356/...tern_Fellowship

David Leigh went on to write some great books on the world of covert activities. I would especially recommend "The Wilson Plot", an attempt by MI5 to overthrow Wilson's Labour government.

On a personal note, I used to teach David Leigh's son, history.
John Simkin
I have created a temporary page on Larry Stern:

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKsternL.htm
John Simkin
Larry Stern's son has kindly sent me some articles that appeared in the Washington Post at the time his father died. This has enabled me to create a more detailed page on Larry Stern.

There are several references to Stern in Ben Bradlee's authobiography, A Good Life. It includes the following:

"Larry Stern played a key role in our lives, Sally's and my first, shared friend. We drove him to and from work every day. We had at least drinks together almost every night, and when Nora Pouillon and her pals, the Damato brothers, needed a little cash for sheetrock to finish the walls of their restaurant around the corner, Larry persuaded us to invest $5,000 in Nora's Restaurant."

It is therefore very strange that Bradlee does not mention Larry's death.
Sterling Seagrave
QUOTE(Nathaniel Heidenheimer @ Feb 10 2007, 01:38 AM) [snapback]93406[/snapback]
I am currently reading Jim Hougan's book Secret Agenda: Watergate, Deep Throat, and the CIA. A footnote on page 53 mentions Laurence Stern:

... In 1965 a firm called Psychological Assessment Associates Inc., was established with headquarters in Washington D.C.
Founded by two retired CIA psychologists, the firm's mains source of funding was the CIA. See Laurence Stern, "Behind
Psychological Assessment's Door, a CIA Operation," Washington Post, June 21, 1974, p A3.

Has anyoned ever read this article, or has anyone heard of this CIA front company before? Did Laurence Stern write other articles about the CIA's
involvement in psychological research? Had he written about MKULTRA?



Nathaniel ~

Larry Stern was one of the WashPost's primary writers on the Agency, with excellent sources, so it might be fruitful to do a search at the newspaper's website.

Sterling Seagrave
Nathaniel Heidenheimer
Just was looking at the previews of the Laurence Stern articles at the Washington Post website. You have to buy a pass to read the whole articles.

On first glance it sure looks like Laurence Stern might have trouble getting a job in today's world of Corporate Journalism.

There is an artilce from 1969 questions the Tax exempt status of the Rockefeller Foundation, and another one from that year that seems to imply that all the rhetoric about the Mylai massacre was designed to obfuscate the wider carnage. I wonder what doorsteps these articles lead to. I looked at many headlines and brief previews that made it seem like Stern was a real reporter. If anyone has time and doesn't mind paying four bucks an article to the Post, without knowing exactly what your going to get, this looks like a good source.
John Simkin
QUOTE(Nathaniel Heidenheimer @ Mar 24 2007, 11:29 PM) [snapback]98100[/snapback]
Just was looking at the previews of the Laurence Stern articles at the Washington Post website. You have to buy a pass to read the whole articles.

On first glance it sure looks like Laurence Stern might have trouble getting a job in today's world of Corporate Journalism.

There is an artilce from 1969 questions the Tax exempt status of the Rockefeller Foundation, and another one from that year that seems to imply that all the rhetoric about the Mylai massacre was designed to obfuscate the wider carnage. I wonder what doorsteps these articles lead to. I looked at many headlines and brief previews that made it seem like Stern was a real reporter. If anyone has time and doesn't mind paying four bucks an article to the Post, without knowing exactly what your going to get, this looks like a good source.


I can put you in contact with Larry Stern's son if you are interested. He is himself an investigative journalist.
Nathaniel Heidenheimer
Finally made it up to the research library with the two big lions in order research the Larry Stern articles.

There were lots of them but, the computer seemed end with an article just before Wounded Knee in 1973. There was nothing listed under Lawrence Stern or Laurence stern btw. 1973 and his death by the footnoted bee-sting described by Mr. Seagrave in the posts above. This is the
article I was looking for most of all:

.. In 1965 a firm called Psychological Assessment Associates Inc., was established with headquarters in Washington D.C.
Founded by two retired CIA psychologists, the firm's mains source of funding was the CIA. See Laurence Stern, "Behind
Psychological Assessment's Door, a CIA Operation," Washington Post, June 21, 1974, p A3. (footnote 22, Chapter 3,
Secret Agenda, p. 53 by Jim Hougan)

This footnote occurs in the context of Hougan's description of a possible second CIA psychological operation that plumbers +2 may have
tripped-been-pushed -over? in the course of their otherwise also disputed itinerary.

This article was nowhere to be found. So far.

There were a number of articles on federal vs state control of oil industry regulations, written by Stern. The States seem to have won that battle after JFK died. JFK wanted stronger federal control. One article is about the resignation of John M. Kelly as assistant secretary of the interior. (Kelly Quits Oil Post, Governor Try Hinted, July 3, 1965) Stern hints at serious conflict between the Kennedy appointed Kelly and Johnson's Sec. of Interior Udall:

In recent months Kelly has been away from Washington when major oil policy decisions were announced by Udall. He was in Paris last
April when Udall made the controversial announcement that he would not ease restrictions on importation of residual fuel oil-- a move
that was bitterly decried by New England members of Congress.

Last month, Kelly was again out of town when the Secretary announced tht there would be no changes in the crude-oil import-control
program.

Although Kelly coveted anonymity, he became embroiled in several controversies since his selection by President Kennedy in 1961.

At the time of his nomination he was criticized in grounds that he failed to divest himself of considerable New Mexico oil holdings,
although he did dipose of his Federal oil leases.

Kelly left Washington by automobile Thursday for his home town of Roswell, NM., and was unavailable for comment.


Another Stern article (Report Hits Oil Firms Influence: Attorney General Hints at Stricter Antitrust Action, May 17, 1963) provides important context for these "controversies" around Kelly. Apparently the Kennedy admin. was favoring smaller independent oil companies in a way that the big boys did not like! More on this article later.



Nathaniel Heidenheimer
QUOTE(Nathaniel Heidenheimer @ Aug 27 2008, 12:14 AM) *
Finally made it up to the research library with the two big lions in order research the Larry Stern articles.

There were lots of them but, the computer seemed end with an article just before Wounded Knee in 1973. There was nothing listed under Lawrence Stern or Laurence stern btw. 1973 and his death by the footnoted bee-sting described by Mr. Seagrave in the posts above. This is the
article I was looking for most of all:

.. In 1965 a firm called Psychological Assessment Associates Inc., was established with headquarters in Washington D.C.
Founded by two retired CIA psychologists, the firm's mains source of funding was the CIA. See Laurence Stern, "Behind
Psychological Assessment's Door, a CIA Operation," Washington Post, June 21, 1974, p A3. (footnote 22, Chapter 3,
Secret Agenda, p. 53 by Jim Hougan)

This footnote occurs in the context of Hougan's description of a possible second CIA psychological operation that plumbers +2 may have
tripped-been-pushed -over? in the course of their otherwise also disputed itinerary.

This article was nowhere to be found. So far.

There were a number of articles on federal vs state control of oil industry regulations, written by Stern. The States seem to have won that battle after JFK died. JFK wanted stronger federal control. One article is about the resignation of John M. Kelly as assistant secretary of the interior. (Kelly Quits Oil Post, Governor Try Hinted, July 3, 1965) Stern hints at serious conflict between the Kennedy appointed Kelly and Johnson's Sec. of Interior Udall:

In recent months Kelly has been away from Washington when major oil policy decisions were announced by Udall. He was in Paris last
April when Udall made the controversial announcement that he would not ease restrictions on importation of residual fuel oil-- a move
that was bitterly decried by New England members of Congress.

Last month, Kelly was again out of town when the Secretary announced tht there would be no changes in the crude-oil import-control
program.

Although Kelly coveted anonymity, he became embroiled in several controversies since his selection by President Kennedy in 1961.

At the time of his nomination he was criticized in grounds that he failed to divest himself of considerable New Mexico oil holdings,
although he did dipose of his Federal oil leases.

Kelly left Washington by automobile Thursday for his home town of Roswell, NM., and was unavailable for comment.


Another Stern article (Report Hits Oil Firms Influence: Attorney General Hints at Stricter Antitrust Action, May 17, 1963) provides important context for these "controversies" around Kelly. Apparently the Kennedy admin. was favoring smaller independent oil companies in a way that the big boys did not like! More on this article later.

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Here is some of the May 17, 1963 article about RFK and Oil Anti-trust.

Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy poured a stiff dose of ctiricism yesterday on the Nations's troubled oil
industry.

He charged that the industry has achieved an "undesirable and increasing degree" of control over state oil-
conservation agencies.

Also he hinted at stricter antitrust action in the future to cope with the "problems" growing out of ownership
of the national pipeline network by the oil industry's corporate giants.

Kennedy's politically explosive assessment was made in the first Attorney General's report in four years on the
operations of the Interstate Oil Compact Commission a body established by Congress to help conserve and
stabalize the Nation's oil supply. Its 30 members include the major oil producing states.

CONSERVATION ISSUE

The report comes at a time of fierce infighting within the industry and among the oil states on the issue of
conservation methods and oil allocations.

These differences have boiled into a major squabble within the Compact Commission on a study of efficiency
in oil production it was asked to perform by Interior Secretary Stewart L. Udall.

Kennedy waid that the loose and widely varying system of state controls over oil production that now exists
tends to favor large interstate companies and to penalize operators in strictly controlled areas.

Hardest hit by the system, said Kennedy, are independent producers and refiners whom he described as
"significant to the effectivness of competition in this industry"

PUSH ON INDEPENDENTS

Sharp decreases in oil allocations within the major control states, the report said, has brought heavy pressure
on independents to sell out to the big companies.

"This not only contributes towards concentration of existing production resources, but also poses a threat to adequate
development of new production capacity," Kennedy said.

Under the allocation system the state agencies-- in order to avoid a glut on the oil market-- assign production quotas
to individual fields. The states also try to guide productivity by such means as regulating distance between wells and
fixing a number of "shut-down" days for oil producers.

But the large "integrated" companies--those with their own exploration, production, refining and distribution systems--
with pipeline access can easliy evade state regulation, the Attorney General noted.

"Necessarily, therefore, many state agencies find it necessry to use cajolery rather than compulsion, and to tailor
production limitations to what major companies would like," said the report.

Kennedy's statement is especially significant in that it breaks a long silence by the Justice Department on oil policy.
The Attorney general has come under sharp criticism in Congress for not following a 1955 Congressional directive that
he report each year on the activities of the Compact Commission. The last report was in 1959.

The Attorney General also suggested that the Federal Government should have more clearly defined control over the
the entire oil control supply system, a proposal which is certain to draw fire from oil men.

At present while the states largely control domestic production, the Interior Department is empowered to regulate the
flow of foreign oil into the United States. Since the total U.S. demand for oil is fixed, the Federal Government's import
control power could be used to regulate domestic production.

This mixed bag of Federal and state control, the Attorney general indicated, "suggets the need for possible revision
of the system it more realistically responsive to the needs of industry, the individual states and the Nation."

Kenedy's report comes as Congress is beginning to consider a four-year extension of the Compact Commission.
Legislation to extend the life of the compact has already been introduced by Sen. Clinton Anderson (D-N.Mex.).
Anderson's state ranked sixth in oil production last year.

The New Mexico Democrat said yesterday he saw no need for public hearings on the new extension since, as he put it,
the Compact Commission "hasn't resulted in monopolies."

One of the chief responsibilities of the Attorney General, in keeping tabs on the Compact Commission under the 1955
act of Congress, is to insure that it is not used to fix prices or create monopolies"
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Hmmmmmm.

What role did LBJ have in the creation of the 1955 Compact? What was his role in attaining the provision that the
the AG make an annual report back to Congress? Wondering whether Mr. Caro will happen upon this article. Its just the sort of subcommittee intrigue he thrives on, but will this one be a bit hot to handle?
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