Apologies if this question is answered in recent threads.

Does anyone know if Shane's DVD (ID-ing Morales at RFK's assassination) is released?

Any word?

Message from Shane:

I am completing my film this week and it will be released on DVD by MPI Home Video towards the end of the year. It is two hours, twenty minutes long and will feature much new material on Morales, Campbell and Joannides. I will let you know when I have a release date.

Good news. Let's hope all goes well. Thanks.

Will it be straight to DVD or will there be tv screenings? I would think that channel four (UK) would take this up. I think that sending a few copies to influential members of the Senate and House of rep's might be a good idea.

This documentary needs exposure.

John

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/review.php?ID=31270

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000UX6TH0/dvdtalk

Sadly, the NEED for exposure is indirectly proportional to the expose it will likely get from the Best Congress Money Can Buy [or Scare]. But we must try...there still are a FEW brave and honest Congresspersons.....very few.

Shane O'Sullivan discusses the making and release of his new DVD RFK Must Die - The Assassination of Bobby Kennedy on the November 8 edition of Black Op Radio:

http://www.blackopradio.com/

Thanks, Michael. I have just launched the website for the film at http://www.rfkmustdie.com with links to the trailer, a Kennedy campaign ad and a new Facebook discussion group I have started on the case.

RFK Must Die: The Assassination of Bobby Kennedy is released on DVD in the US on Tuesday - Robert Kennedy's 82nd birthday, had he lived. It updates my investigation into the three CIA agents at the Ambassador while revealing who "Gordon Campbell" actually was and containing extended interviews with Wayne Smith, Ruben Carbajal and Robert Walton on David Morales; Bradley Ayers and David Rabern on Morales and Campbell; and Ed Lopez on George Joannides.

The heart of the film is a thorough re-examination of the other controversies in the case. Sandra Serrano is interviewed for the first time since the night of the shooting about the girl in the polka dot dress. We also hear from Vincent Di Pierro, who saw a polka-dot dress girl standing next to Sirhan in the kitchen; eyewitnesses Frank Burns, Paul Schrade and Evan Freed; defense investigators Robert Blair Kaiser and Michael McCowan; Sirhan's brother Munir and late attorney Larry Teeter; Bay of Pigs historian Haynes Johnson; and Dr. Herbert Spiegel of Columbia University, a world authority on hypnosis, who believes Sirhan was hypnotically programmed.

There's rare archive footage from the hotel that night, with more clips of "Morales" and "Campbell" and security guard Thane Eugene Cesar. There's also previously unseen footage of Robert Kennedy and Richard Helms; and film and audio interviews with Sirhan, including the hypnotic sessions in which defense psychiatrist Dr. Diamond tried to re-enact the shooting.

It's been a really fascinating investigation and, with the fortieth anniversary next June and William Pepper on board to represent Sirhan, I hope next year will see major progress in the case. I am now completing a book on the case to be published by Union Square Press next May, which will hopefully help this process.

Thanks to John for such a fantastic resource in developing this research and also to James for photos, Bill for support and Peter Fokes who first pointed out the "Richard Helms lookalike" in the footage.

All the best,
Shane

I just finished watching RFK Must Die and an attempt to review it would not do Shane O'Sullivan's research justice.

In my opinion it is a must own, must watch documentary for anyone with an interest in the assassination of Robert Kennedy, the murder of his brother, or the careers of Joannides, Morales and others.

The production values are excellent and much like the book that can't be put down, I couldn't stop watching this DVD from start to finish. I'll make sure my good friends see it.

Outstanding research Shane. I'm very much looking forward to your book.

Thanks very much, Michael. Great to hear your feedback. I hope more members will comment as they see the film. It would be great to get more discussion going on the RFK case in this section of the Forum and elsewhere online. There are big developments ahead in the lead-up to the fortieth anniversary next June and with Sirhan still in prison, a strong argument for reopening the case.

Best,
Shane

I received my DVD from Amazon today, and I am going to plug it in tonight.

I plan to buy and read the book when it is released.

Thanks for the feedback on the film so far. I'm delighted to announce RFK Must Die: The Assassination of Bobby Kennedy will be released in UK cinemas this Friday, May 16th, opening at the Institute of Contemporary Art (ICA) and Rich Mix cinemas in London.

I will be doing Q&As after the 6:15 ICA show on Friday and the 8:15 Rich Mix show on Saturday. The UK DVD will be released on May 26th, with a host of rare Kennedy campaign ads and audio extras.

The film will then screen at the historic Crest Theater in Sacramento on Monday, June 2nd at 7:30 p.m., with Q&A, to promote awareness of the case among California lawmakers. Three days later, on the fortieth anniversary of the assassination, the film will open at the Pioneer Theater in New York for an eight-day run, with several Q&As also.

We'll be screening a shorter 102' version of the film theatrically, as I think it's more digestible for those new to the case than the 139' DVD version. The UK DVD will include the extra 37' as extras.

The Documentary Channel will air the US television premiere on the anniversary and my book, Who Killed Bobby? The Unsolved Murder of Robert F. Kennedy will be published by Union Square Press on June 3rd.

I hope all of this will increase the pressure on California authorities to reopen the case in the light of the new audio evidence found on the Pruszynski recording. Public and media awareness is, of course, key to this. If any of you would like to organise a screening of the film in your area, please let me know. Brave New Theaters is a great new grassroots cinema initiative from director Robert Greenwald (Outfoxed, Iraq for Sale) that makes this possible.

I hope to meet some of you at the COPA meeting in Los Angeles in June.

All the best,
Shane

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New article, mixes new Joling and Van Praag acoustic info with Shane O'Sullivan's investigation (which he calls a "BBC documentary" - I thought it was independently produced).

The article claims that the CIA operatives in RFK Must Die have been "positively identified". I don't think Shane O'Sullivan went quite that far.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_ma...since_rfk_a.htm

Edit: After reviewing the original BBC article on Shane O'Sullivan's investigation, they used the words "positively identified". If you watch the dvd - which is highly recommended and very well done - you will see that Shane's final conclusions are more tentative due to conflicting information on the identities of Morales, Joannides, and Campbell.

Steve, thanks for the timely information you often post.

Shane O'Sullivan's book is now shipping (ahead of schedule) from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Who-Killed-Bobby-Uns...5884&sr=1-1

Thank you Michael, your posts and updates are appreciated as well ... I didn't know that Shane O'Sullivan's book Who Killed Bobby?: The Unsolved Murder of Robert F. Kennedy was shipping.

Looking forward to reading it and your thoughts on the same.

Steve

That is great that it will be on the Documentary Channel!....that should generate some responses....BUT....it will [sadly] take an enormous amount of push from the Public to get CA to do anything - or the D.A. in L.A. 

What kind of reactions and/or reviews did the showings in the UK get?

I thought that the man previously thought to be Gordon Campbell has been positively identified as a Buliva watch executive. Maybe I'm wrong but I'd like to have that made more clear.

Thanks,

BK

Bill, I haven't seen the dvd since it first came out, but I believe you are right: The man thought to be "Gordon Campbell" was ID'd as a Bulova employee.

I also recall James Richards posting in the JFK forum some notes about the history of Bulova and its contacts to the military community.

The other problem with the "Gordon Campbell" and "David Morales" identifications in RFK Must Die are that the individuals thought to be those persons are hanging around for an extraordinary amount of time. The men ID'd as Morales and Campbell are trudging back and forth right near news cameras for what seem like minutes. One would think that if they were in fact CIA operatives they would be more circumspect (if they stayed around at all after a murder they knew was coming or were involved with in some way).

While the "Morales Man" does seem to be nosing around the scene, I just don't think he looks much like the David Sanchez Morales that has been presented in photographs identified by family and colleagues through the efforts of researchers. I await the new Morales photo(s) that James Richards said he would present on his upcoming website for further comparison and study.

That being said, Morales' comments to his attorney Robert Walton and friend Ruben Carabal about being in LA when in his words the "little bastard" [RFK] was killed remain chilling and worthy of investigation. I applaud Shane O'Sullivan for his efforts in pursuing the Morales avenue.

Steve

Steve,

Yes, Bulova was a curious entity. In 1968, the chairman of Bulova was Omar Bradley. The president of the company was Harry Henshel with intel connections via army intelligence back to WW2.

Bradley was also chairman of the Bulova Research and Develpment Labs, Inc. Classified contracts included work on guided missiles.

President of the Bulova Research and Development Labs was E.K. Patterson who was also a business associate of Roy Cohn.

Executive Vice President of BRDL was Brig. Gen. Kenneth E. Fields who was also the General Manager of the Atomic Energy Commission. In 1965, LBJ appointed Fields to a commission which was to select a site for a sea-level canal between the Atlantic and Pacific. Also on this commission and friendly with Fields was R.G. Storey - the same man who accompanied Earl Warren during his visit with Jack Ruby.

Anyway, I am hoping to have the web site up and running soon. Bottom line, I do not believe that was Morales photographed at the Ambassador and I too applaude Shane in his considerable efforts.

James

James,

Thanks for the additional information on Bulova and its military connections. And I know many of us look forward to your website to further advance our research.

I just received Shane O'Sullivan's new book, Who Killed Bobby? The Unsolved Murder of Robert F. Kennedy. It is a massive tome at 500 plus pages with notes. It is well-documented and a good read.

Chapters 17 and 18, titled "The CIA at the Hotel" and "Chasing Shadows", detail Shane's original BBC story from 2006 and his search to clarify the identities of three men captured on video and photographed at the Ambassador Hotel that night, initially thought to possibly be CIA operatives Gordon Campbell, George E. Joannides, and David Sanchez Morales.

If you have seen Shane's movie RFK Must Die, it will not be much of surprise for you to find that after a diligent and thoughtful search, which included photo comparisons and numerous interviews with former colleagues and family members of the above-named Agency hands, Shane has backed off his original tentative assertions. He now concludes that it was most likely not Campbell, Joannides, and Morales in the photos and video he presented in his reporting and film.

The "Gordon Campbell" individual was a man named Michael D. Roman, and the "George Joannides" individual was Frank S. Owen, both Bulova watch salesman. Shane details the history of Bulova, and interviews family members of Roman before writing that Roman and Owen were in all probability misidentified as Campbell and Joannides.

It should be noted: Bradley A. Ayers insists that Michael D. Roman was a dead ringer for the man he knew from JM/WAVE as "Gordon Campbell" (even though others said Campbell died in 1962, before Ayers arrived); Ed Lopez and Dan Hardaway both said Owen looked like Joannides; and Tom Polgar said that the photo of Owens was "not incompatible" with Joannides.

The book contains new information on Dave Morales that will be of interest to you and other researchers. There are plenty of remembrances from friends and family, brushstrokes that help paint a fuller picture of El Indio and his infamous self-incrimination.

Steve

Something doesn't fit 'right'. Morales said he was there [in L.A.]; these guys look very much like the CIA players who hated RFK and JFK; Campbell did NOT die [but was said to have done so] in 1962; I was told, by one in the 'know' that a disinformation campaign was in place against Shane along these exact lines; why would Bulova executives be waived-out of a crowd by minders - not to mention all the Intelligence connections James has presented about Bulova....and so on. Not all clear, but we seem to have some revelations and some interference from the cover-up crowd all jumbled together - the usual games.......I'm far from convinced one or more of these three were there to 'cheer on' RFK.

Steve,

Yes, I did see Shane's documentary which I thought was skillfully constructed and a very well balanced presentation.

I have not read Shane's book but look forward to doing so.

Many years ago, I did speak with several people who knew Morales from his school years and from the 'neighborhood'. One particular gentlemen is still owed a small sum of money from 'Didi'. I don't like his chances of getting it back.

Also, two brothers who were well acquainted with Morales shared some interesting stories - nothing that tied him to the dramatic events of 1963 and 1968, but curious impressions and anecdotes.

James

James,

I think you'll find Shane's book very informative. Several people seem to think Mr. Zamka was prone to braggadocio and maybe exaggeration.

There is an interesting retelling of Morales' involvement in taking out a radio tower in the Dominican Republic by Ed Wilson. Wilson says Morales rowed ashore, dressed up as "Doctor Mendes", claimed he was there to see patients, and then ... bang and boom, no tower.

Any anecdotes or stories that the brothers told you that you can relay here?

Steve

Steve,

The stories mainly involved the power and influence Morales would wield during his visits to Arizona. He had personal relationships with many prominent folk including the police chief. Doors would open and the gratuities would flow.

There was also the so-called inside word on business opportunities in Latin America that some of his friends took advantage of.

James

Steve and James,

Thanks very much for your feedback. A lot of long nights and early mornings went into the book, so I hope you enjoy it. I've just put up a website here, with the table of contents and introduction: Who Killed Bobby?

I'm also looking forward to getting more US reaction on the film. There are new dates at the Roxie in San Francisco on June 3rd and at the Farmers and Merchants Building in downtown Los Angeles on the 4th. I'll be there both nights, so it'd be great to see some of you if you can make it. Full details at the film site: RFK Must Die

Best,
Shane

Shane,

Good to see you back here. Thank you for your tremendous efforts. You really are to be commended for pushing this case back into the public eye through your perceptive and penetrating film, in-depth book, and now the website. Excellent work.

I hope you'll consider a Philadelphia or D.C. showing of RFK Must Die. I'm sure there are East Coast board members who will make the trek (Philly's up the road from me). I realize your travel opportunities might be limited coming from across the pond.

Can you tell us any stories about Dave Morales relayed by Tom Clines? Did Clines confirm Ed Wilson's story of Morales blowing up a radio tower in the Dominican Republic circa 1965? In your book you said Clines dismissed Morales' confessional rant as bullshit, but there was little else from Clines. Any expansion in that area is appreciated.

Congrats,

Steve

Thanks very much, Steve. I really appreciate your feedback. It's great to hear my mountainous files have been put to good use. I decided to focus on California for the screenings as that's where the power is to reopen the case. Luckily, a cinema in New York also liked the film, so the week at the Pioneer is wonderful. There'll be a feature on the film in the NY Daily News this Sunday and I hope the release will go some way to bringing the East Coast media up to speed on the unresolved issues.

Ed Wilson let me audio-tape our conversation, that's why my account of our meeting is more detailed. The meeting with Clines was pretty much as I describe in the book. Not a lot of new detail. I was circling, waiting to bring up the Ambassador footage. He was a bit wary, wondering why I was really there or already briefed on why I was there. Clines brought his business partner Derek, who worked with him in Central America in the eighties. Derek told tales of staking out a hotel lobby with 19 operatives, each blending into the furniture. I told Clines I wanted to talk about the Secret War (on Castro) and he asked "Which one?' and burst out laughing. An impenetrable guy but fair play to him for meeting me.

Shane:
Your book is excellent... it gave me some new (fresh) investigative insights that are not common knowledge, plus good food for critical thought. I am 2/3rds through it, and its very informative building on past work by Melanson, Klaber, Kaiser et al. I am struck by the role of Ambassador security (especially Gardner and his interaction with ACE security) as well as the hypnotic exams given to Sirhan in jail. You spur interest in a key question... how was RFK led into the 'killing zone" by a last-minute change in exit route, and were there 'insiders' or traitors associated with the Kennedy camp. Your treatment of the compromised Sirhan defense team was thoughtful, and I appreciated additonal expose of the biased (and Agency-influenced) LAPD Pena and Hernandez. I recognize its tough to tread into the necessary (but difficult) black waters of Morales, and his possible presence at the Ambassador... but in spite of the conflicting opinions and observations of the film, I remain convinced that the hand of Morales is present (literally). It will be interesting to compare your work with what Larry Hancock is doing on the Mary Ferrell website. Well done! - gene kelly

Gene,

Thanks very much for your feedback. I agree the Ambassador head of security William F. Gardner is an intriguing figure who hasn't really been covered before. There are so many contradictions in his FBI interviews and if there was anyone pulling strings backstage, he strikes me as a key figure who was never properly questioned. But I find it hard to believe there was a Judas in the Kennedy camp, given the agonised look on the faces of his aides in the pantry, so how RFK was manipulated into the "killing zone" still eludes me.

As for Ace Guard Service: after his very candid interview with Betsy Langman, I don't suspect Frank Hendrix, the Ace owner, but I find it very curious that nobody seems to have ever spoken to Tom Spangler, Thane Eugene Cesar's contact at Ace and the man who summoned Cesar to the Ambassador that night.

I'm also keeping Morales in the frame. There may be another twist to his story yet. Enjoy the rest of the book. When I was in the US last month, I interviewed Phil Van Praag about the new audio evidence. The resulting 7-minute update to my film will be screening on the Documentary Channel and online soon.

Best,
Shane

Shane:
I'm intrigued by what seasoned operatives have to say about a how such an event would be designed, especially luring RFK into the pantry. The interaction of Cesar with Gardner is of interest. Gardner's suicide a year or so later is sinister. The Polka Dot girl almost seems too contrived... another obvious distraction, being intentionally seen (and heard) by many witnesses, both before and after. As Larry Hancock has surmised, hardly the behavior of a professional. There had to have been several teams in place that night, contingencies for the possible paths Bobby would take after the speech. The scene was secured quickly, and evidence was controlled... similar to Dealey Plaza five years earlier. Another impression I have from reading your work is that LA was picked for many reasons (in advance) with pre-staged police accomplices, attorneys and investigators, phony coroner assistants etc. The entire response, investigation and trial were rigged comprehensively from the start. And within one year, key volumes of evidence were destroyed well in advance of any appeals. I have a number of strong impressions I want to share with you, now that I've finished your book, including the strange behavior of Sirhan's brothers (who must have known what he was doing in the preceding months) with the authorities... I'd think Sirhan's whereabouts in the previous year would be cataloged in brute detail (like Oswald). Curious that all we get is the simple 'white fog" excuse. Tom Rathke, Jerry Owen and Dr. Bryan seemed to disappear from public scrutiny after 1975. Also, Sirhan's ranting/ravings in captivity remind one of Jack Ruby... spontaneous tears at the mention of Israel and bombers, strong anti-semitic overtones (that don't really fit the mild-mannered Christian Sirhan), suggestion of the hero role... essentially painting him with a persona that mirrors the phony motive. Your book is excellent work and a nice read.

Gene

Gene: Thanks for your kind words. Those operatives certainly see the pantry as the perfect "killing zone" - so narrow and crowded it seems a second gunman could operate without detection. Gardner is the most interesting figure for me in manipulating Kennedy into the pantry or being a source of inside information for the bad guys. His proximity to Cesar in the backstage hallway before Kennedy left the stage is troubling. And there does seem to be a pattern in the dishonest or incompetent LAPD officers, attorneys and phony coroner's assistants who later worked on the case.

I know Larry has his doubts about Sirhan's brothers but I can't say I share those. According to Sirhan's family, he spent every night in the year before the assassination at home. But he would spend his days alone, going to the racetrack or to the library, with no regular friends really monitoring his whereabouts. According to Dr. Spiegel, an hour or so each day for a couple of months with a programmer would be enough to direct Sirhan towards Kennedy, so I don't believe he disappeared for months, I think the programming was done right there in Los Angeles. And Bill Turner's book shows Dr. Bryan to be a leading candidate for the programmer. The Ruby parallels are indeed very interesting.

Shane: Gardner's suicide a year later is very troubling; seems like a strong cuase/effect, way too much of a coincidence to be unrelated. If anyone had the wherewithall to arrange for insiders, strategic ACE guard placement, advance logistics, coverage of certain doors and rooms, access for several shooter teams, egress for post-event escape, then it was most certainly Mr. Gardner. Yet there's nothing much written about him, nor did LAPD inteview him... and he's the man in charge of hotel security! I would love to study his background, and his 'movements/life in the years prior to and after the murder. I think I read somewhere (maybe Larry's 6-part piece) that another detective in charge of LAPD dignitary protection was "cruising the area" and had a 'premonition' that something would happen (as a lame pretext for being at the hotel). Then he reappears 20 years later with an apparent sting on Teeter and Lynn Mangan and then an offer to tell what 'really happened' for a $20k fee. I have also formed an opinion that the polka dot girl was obviously real, but way too obvious, and as such was an intentional distraction (along with her alleged accomplices) for the real professionals to do their lethal work... do you share that view? What additonal followup do you have planned, and who would you continue to hone in on (besides Morales) as a person of interest? This RFK case now holds as much inerest for me as JFK, maybe more, thanks to your book. Regards - gene

Thanks, Gene. I think you hone in on two potentially very important characters here that have long been overlooked. I agree Gardner could well be the "missing link" in all this but I can find no other information on him apart from the contradictory FBI interviews. He was a retired LAPD lieutenant and within months of the shooting, he left the Ambassador to go to law school. Soon after that, he apparently committed suicide and nobody at the Ambassador would talk about it. Unfortunately, most of the hotel guards who worked with him are now dead or don't want to talk. The LAPD officer in charge of VIP protection was Jean M. Scherrer - I tell those stories in the book, quoting from what he told C. David Heymann. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find Scherrer either.

I believe Serrano and Di Pierro probably saw the same girl and I believe Serrano's account of what the girl said but there's no denying it's bizarre behaviour for a co-conspirator. She may well have been a decoy, it's hard to say. I think following through on the audio evidence is the best way forward. Paul Schrade and Sirhan's attorney William Pepper are now very active in the case, pursuing legal channels re a second gun and Sirhan's programming.

Pepper plans to pursue a civil trial, as he successfully did in the King case. I'll help that process as much as I can, to put all this evidence on the record, in as uncluttered, accurate and credible manner as possible. So stay tuned!

Shane,

I was under the impression that Scherrer died in 1996. Maybe I am wrong.

James

Thanks, James. There seem be two possibilities - the guy you mention who died in Ohio in 1996 and would have been 52 at the time of the shooting. And another Jean M. Scherrer, still listed in the Los Angeles area, ten years younger, who I have not been able to reach.

I heard Scherrer was living in California, then moved to Nevada, so I tend to think it may be the latter and he's still alive but I could be wrong. The whole business with Lynn Mangan also happened in 1996 and I believe Scherrer was living in L.A. at that time.

Best,
Shane

Thanks, Shane.

Do you know if Sgt. J. Horrall is still alive?

James

Gene and James: Thanks for the prompting. I made another effort to find Scherrer and Horrall yesterday and finally spoke to them both last night. Horrall says they first heard of the shooting in the car over the police radio. They went to Central Receiving, met Rafer Johnson, who had the gun in his pocket, and escorted him to Rampart station to maintain continuity of the evidence before it was booked. Horrall worked in the organised crime division within LAPD intelligence.

His partner was Jean Scherrer, who says he was completely misquoted by C. David Heymann "who couldn't even get my name right" (Heymann calls him "Gene"). Scherrer said RFK was "a very nice person, a very credible individual". When RFK was a Senate Committee investigator in the late fifties, Scherrer had worked with him as an LAPD intelligence officer. Scherrer also worked the 1960 Democratic convention and had contact with the candidates there. Regarding the night of the RFK shooting, Scherrer told me "that night, I was supposed to be his security."

Because he knew Kennedy, he got a message through the commander of the division on June 4th that he was to work security for the senator that night. Later the same day, he got another message to say that he wasn't needed, Rafer and Rosie would handle security for the senator but he may be called on later that night after the speech (the senator was due to go on to the Factory nightclub to celebrate).

So that night, he was on divisional assignment near the hotel in an unmarked car with Horrall, waiting for a call to go work security for Kennedy. Then word of the shooting came over the radio and they went to Central Receiving and met Rafer, who had the gun, and brought him to Rampart.

Horrall and Scherrer don't think there was a conspiracy. Scherrer also volunteered that, after his retirement, he actually met Sirhan's brother (the 1996 incident described above). He wouldn't go into how the meeting came about "because I don't want to bring these other people into it" but the idea was that Sirhan was looking for parole, so if Sirhan came clean with what he knew about the shooting, Scherrer would "see what he could do" to get him a deal (a pardon and deportation to the Middle East, for example). How and why this came about remains murky. But as Sirhan wouldn't confess, nothing further happened.

Regarding the Heymann quotes, Scherrer denies that he was at the hotel and says Heymann's "I was there because I had a premonition" quote and suggestion that Scherrer would go into more detail about the shooting for money are both "bullshit."

Thanks, Shane.

That is terrific information. Well done.

James

Shane,

I'm working on an A to Z list of individuals and groups who were, or may have been, involved in the "Medico-Military-Occult Complex" and who turn up in assassination literature going back to WWI.

Dr Bryan is on the list, and my assessment of him is that he was not involved. Without going into the details right now, he simply was not competent to perform what you're requiring of him. The evidence for it, when presented, will be hard to refute.

Also, to Gene's comment regarding the Polka Dot girl being too obvious and unprofessional... and therefore a deliberate distraction -- whether a deliberate distraction or not, her behavior is reminiscent of Charlie's girls -- and though I'm not saying she was one of his... she was most likely mixed up with a not dissimilar dangerous cultish crowd... the real milieu in which Sirhan's "programming" occurred.

In considering the Military part of "Medico-Military-Occult Complex" the earlier discussion here about the presence of Bulova employees and that company's connections to MI becomes rather important to the direction I've been led along.

Thanks, Greg. Look forward to your evidence on Bryan. The gleeful behavior of the polka dot girl has echoes of Manson but, as far as I can see, Sirhan's interest in the occult was a pretty solitary occupation. He went to one Rosicrucian meeting and did the rest of his Rosicrucian studies in his room by correspondence course. I'd be curious to hear of any possible links to darker occult groups.

Best,
Shane

Shane,

the evidence of a link is there in his notebook. It's just been misinterpreted. What appears to obviously mean one thing and one thing only - actually means something entirely different. The context given by surrounding words has been missed - possibly because one of the words was spelled phonetically.

I'm on a learning curve with the RFK assassination, but I understand some believe it was his brother who had the real links. Whatever the case, my own observation is that Sirhan was ripe for his role by dint of personality and circumstance.

Greg/Shane:
I appreciate the opportunity to discuss this case with true investigators like yourselves, and ones who I believe on the right tracks. I am now on that same learning curve about RFK, but ideas and connections are being stimulated by your work.

First, I know you didn't pursue the Michael Wayne story, but he seems of interest and I've asked James Richards if he has access to a photo. His real name was allegedly Wien, supposedly an Israeli from Britain, and may have been a Sirhan 'double', or in cahoots with the Polka Dot Girl. Wayne (Wien) allegedly had a rolled up tube (presumably a signed poster of RFK) and was noticeably fleeing the scene when some individuals chased him, and he was detained, because they thought he had a gun. Other accounts have him working in an antiques store in LA, and a 'collector'. Still others link him with Kanbar Khan, an Iranian who had penetrated RFK's campaign team in the week before the assassination, but made himself pretty conspicuous (another deliberate distraction?). Given the dubious motive ascribed to Sirhan (anti-Israel, Phantom jets, Palestine) pointing disingenuously towards the Middle East, and some of the allegations about Mossad/Iran involvement, Wayne/Wien is - for me - an interesting character. If I were to think hard about connecting the dots (Mossad, Khan and his connection to British Intelligence), it comes back to a central player in both JFK and RFK lore who wears a 'black hat' as far as I'm concerned... none other than James Angelton. But that's inductive reasoning and speculation.

Second, the interviews with David Rabern in your book seem either "fishy" or (at the other end of the spectrum) an amazing observation. He speaks of operatives all over the Hotel, and in a meeting at a bank building, and specifically of seeing the Morales figure in the presence of the Bullova guy/ Campbell. I assume that, because you quote his story and interview, that you consider his account credible. If what he says is true, then the intelligence operational presence is a fact.

Regards,
Gene

Thanks, Gene. I attach an image taken by Steve Fontanini of Michael Wayne being handcuffed by Ace security guard Augustus Mallard after the shooting. Wayne ran out of the pantry through the Colonial Room into the main lobby, ostensibly looking for a phone to call emergency services. Alarmed by his behavior, several people gave chase, including Fontanini and Mallard.

Wayne collected campaign literature for political candidates and you can see a handful of this and the rolled-up poster in the photo. While Wayne's behaviour was certainly "fishy", the fact that Fontanini, Mallard and others apprehended him so quickly and didn't find a gun suggests to me he was not a shooter, as has been claimed. So I only briefly mention him in my book. Lisa Pease goes into great detail about Khaibar Khan and Michael Wayne in one of her articles. While their stories and points of connection are intriguing, there's no proof Khan was even at the hotel that night and it seems from this photo that Wayne was not armed.

I found David Rabern very credible and you must remember he did not know Morales or Campbell by name, he just remembered seeing the figures in the video at the hotel that night. His insight into how undercover operatives like himself worked and why they would be there was very interesting to me and I would dearly love to know who the "Morales" figure in the video actually is. The CIA was running a top-secret program called Chaos in major cities at that time to find out if the anti-war movement had foreign sponsors. Only Helms, Angleton and a few others knew about it and the program's potential links to LAPD intelligence in this context are intriguing.

Thank you, Shane.

You certainly have provoked a great deal of discussion with your book and DVD.

I would imagine you have responded to comments by Mel Ayton and Jefferson Morley in some forum or other. However, I am woefully busy and have not kept up with the discussions.

Besides the "Helms look-a-like", I did discover -- as Ayton has noted -- an image of the polka dot lady in the pantry area, as well as several images of a "Sirhan Sirhan look-a-like" standing next to a woman in a black dress with white spots. (See thread on this forum from earlier date.)

Looking forward to reading your book and watching the DVD.

Regards,

Peter Fokes,
Toronto

Great picture, Shane. I wonder why we never hear much about Wayne after this night? You'd think - if handcuffed and in essence arrested - that the crowd would react to him in a fashion similar to the hostility towards Sirhan. Wayne/Wien... why the alias? Wasn't he allegedly up in RFK's hotel suite earlier, getting the poster autographed? Campaign paraphernalia collector... pretty good cover assignment. Worked in a bookstore in nearby Pasadena... how long? Hung out with Khanbar Khan... possibly seen in presence of Sirhan and Khan (openly displaying weapons) at RFK campaign headquarters. in prior weeks. I'm trying to see the resemblance to Sirhan, and its somewhat there, but its not popping out as such, although he looks pretty stressed in the picture. A bit of a middle-eastern look, and short... possible double. Maybe he expertly ditched the weapon, or passed it on professionally to a 'break-down' partner. Just strange that -unlike a lot of persons of interest in this case- he drops off the face of the earth after the shooting... no interviews, trial appearances, later intrigue, subsequent investigator contacts (e.g. Ted Caratch/second gun). No acquaintances ever found or quoted... just a guy that nobody knew? An Israeli from Britain with an alias... mighty suspicious.

For anyone interested: I've just posted the new epilogue to my film RFK Must Die: The Assassination of Bobby Kennedy on my website at http://www.rfkmustdie.com

This 7-minute update features an interview with audio expert Philip Van Praag, in which he explains the significance of the recently uncovered Pruszynski recording - the only known recording of the gunshots fired in the Ambassador Hotel pantry on June 5, 1968.

Van Praag outlines three discoveries he made while analyzing the recording, concluding that 13 shots were fired that night and a second gunman fired the fatal shot that killed Robert Kennedy.

Production of the epilogue was kindly supported by the Documentary Channel, who premiered it last Monday and have screened it four times this week after my film. You can find the Documentary Channel on Dish Network 197 and a further screening of both film and epilogue is scheduled for 6:00 PM (EST) on October 29th. The channel has posted a trailer for the epilogue here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SdWUWnIsCw

My thanks to Philip Van Praag and co-author Robert Joling for sharing these important new discoveries. You can find more details on their work here: http://www.anopenandshutcase.com

I hope the epilogue will further raise public and media awareness of the urgent need for this case to be reopened.

Best,
Shane

Just watched it. Excellent on many levels. Van Praag is very effective and a great speaker with a very convincing, calm, professional manner. Bravo!
Yes, urgent need for the case to be reopened - but don't hold your breath - the mightest forces in America and the world don't want it [or related matters] touched. It will take the People pushing [hard] to make it happen. Come on People. Shane has done his work and he isn't even American - now we must apply hard pressure - many of us - and a maximum of pressure - against a system [political, judicial, economic, main stream journalistic, corporate, military, etc.] who don't want this story to go anywhere.
The stakes are much higher than 'justice', closure, history, Sirhan, etc. The stakes are our Democracy and Freedoms - what's left of them......

Thanks Shane for your great work. Keep at it. I hope you have moved many to do something about this travesty of injustice - one of many - but one of the most obvious and extreme - and perhaps the easiest to show that the 'official version' is just a knowing and pre-planned lie and that a conspiracy existed before, during and after (in fact, still). We can't live with that and have a democracy. Choose my fellow citizens and interested others.

I too was impressed with Van Praag when I saw his presentation at the Wecht conference in Pittsburgh.

His team is strong, including Judge Joling and Paul Scharade, a victim and close personal friend of the Kennedy family.

When discussion verged on getting an official reopening of either RFK or JFK cases, Cyril Wecht said that it won't happen as long as anybody is alive, though there is a slight chance of proving him wrong, but getting the Kennedy family involved would expediate things because the courts really do put more weight on the victims and their families.

Scharade explained the Kennedy's attitude, first expressed by RFK over JFK's death, was that the past is past and we must move on to the future. But he agreed to broach the subject with family members again.

One of the wisest things I heard was Joling's remark that the legal system is not concerned with truth or justice but with due process. You need to have a legal case and flush it through the system.

In that case, it might not be a matter of getting the Kennedy family behind a legal move as it would be to keep them on the sidelines and not interfere with a grand jury investigation, new forensic autopsy and the release of more records. The families are always threatened with more bad stories coming out if the records were released.

People like Van Praag and Erik Randich are expert witnesses without an agenda, personal bias or a court to hear them.

And Shane did a fine job on packaging that neatly.

BK