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Gary Murr

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  1. Congratulations David. As you well know, I have the utmost respect for your ongoing diligence and hard work in continuing to explore areas of this subject matter that must be put under the microscope. I only wish I had been in Dallas this year to witness your presentation in person. Gary
  2. Hi Ron: I believe what you are referencing/inquiring about here was the Senate subcommittee chaired by Senator Thomas J. Dodd. This committee was set up to investigate mail-order gun business and initially held hearings from January to May of 1963. Both firms that Oswald allegedly ordered weapons from were investigated by this Committee. Dodd hired investigators to sample the market in mail-order guns. If you are interested in further exploring this issue see: U. S. Congress, Senate Subcommittee to Investigate Juvenile Delinquency of the Senate Judiciary; Hearings to Study the Interstate Traffic in Mail-Order Firearms. 88th Congress, 2nd Session, 1963, in particular p. 3596ff.
  3. Apologies for the stroke through s, David; this always seems to happen to me and I don't know why. Hopefully you can still read what I have written. If not, my private message to you will be arriving shortly. Gary
  4. Hi David: I have written about this specific instance of alleged FBI acquisition of MC/FC rifles, alleged "duplicate" of the similarly alleged assassination weapon, in my forthcoming work on the true history of the WCC 6.5mm ammunition. I will send you a private message shortly with what I have discovered concerning the various serial numbers. This issue is rather murky and involves a memorandum originally constructed by Robert Frazier in December of 1963, a memo that eventually carries a Frazier handwritten notation of "Not sent" but a memo that he eventually did send to Ivan Conrad in June of 1964. Part of your inability to potentially discover the serial numbers of rifles acquired by the FBI from Kleins via the Chicago FO is that some of this documentation is in a folder in an FBI bulky serial file that as far as I know is not available anywhere online - i.e. via Mary Ferrell website or others. One specific example is found in 62-109060-8307X, Part 1, Box 109, Folder number 16. As indicated, I will send some of what I have in my manuscript along to you via a private email/message. Gary Murr
  5. Hi James: The "four blind mice" - Givens, Bonnie Ray Williams, James Jarman, Jr., and Harold Norman. Gary
  6. FWIW: I wrote a 200 page chapter on Charles Givens and friends, which can be found in Volume 2 [Forsaken - Tales of Straw-men and Reconstruction] of my John Connally trilogy, "Controlling The Past" It is Chapter 26 of Volume 2 and is titled, "Disconnected - or Four Blind Mice?" Gary Murr
  7. This is indeed sad news. I had the pleasure of meeting Ian on two different occasions in Dallas during Lancer Conference appearances. He was most gracious and never failed to respond to any requests for information I made of him over the years. His work on members of the Dallas Police Department was a remains first rate. As a fellow "old guard" researcher he was someone I considered a friend and he will be missed. RIP Ian.
  8. Jim: As I have repeatedly indicated in both writings and presentations at various conferences John Connally never received an impacting missile wound to his right wrist. The terminology of "wrist" is now and has always been incorrect. John Connally did suffer a tangential wound of impact to the lateral surface of the distal fourth [Dr. Gregory's description] of his right radius. Put in different or more simplistic terms, the point of impact was on the "bottom" end of his right radius on the lateral/side surface. While it is true that this same missile did traverse from the "back" [dorsal] surface to an exit point near the largest crease on the "bottom" [volar] surface of the Governor's actual wrist, it did not "smash" in any way, shape, or form this same wrist. I covered this particular aspect of the Governor's wounding in great detail in Volume 1 of "Controlling The Past", replete with illustrations, X-rays, et al in the accompanying appendices. The X-ray image that Tony has posted in his reply is from one of the cadaver wrist experiments conducted at Edgewood Arsenal in April/May of 1964. FWIW Gary
  9. Hello Micah: What is handwritten under the SA Orin Bartlett line is: "11:50 p.m. (From Dep. Chief Paul Paterni & SAC Wt House detail Floyd M. Boring)
  10. Hey Pat: Sorry - just saw your message. Were you able to use the link provided by Micah? I tried it and it works. And thanks, Micah, for helping Pat out with this; much appreciated. Gary
  11. Just a quick FWIW - the final chapter [24] in my volume 1 of "Controlling The Past" - a chapter titled, "A Tisket, A Tasket, A Red In Warren's Basket?" -deals specifically with the "get Redlich" movement. And not that it is of great significance, but I did construct this chapter in 1999, long before the posting generated by Duke Lane, someone whom I have corresponded with in the past and in my opinion an individual who possessed a good analytical mind when it came to dealing with matters of evidence. Gary
  12. Bart/Chris: I thank you for the comments. Hopefully you will find something "new" in this volume. Gary
  13. Hello Everyone: I am attaching a link that will give access to Volume 2 of "Controlling The Past." There are six chapters in total, plus footnotes, cover, contents listing, and brief introduction. This link will stay active for one week [seven days]. If anyone has any questions, please let me know. I am in the process of starting to go through the third and final volume and hope to have it finished within a couple of weeks. I am also in the process of generating an index for all three volumes, but again this may take a while. Link: https://wetransfer.com/downloads/a5fcdbe71af37315db5d0b38ccb7d3b220190313151356/599b3f
  14. Not to interject, but for those who are interested, I have a 200 page long chapter on Bonnie Ray Williams and friends in Volume 2 of "Controlling The Past". I will be posting all six chapters of Volume 2, titled "Forsaken - Tales of Straw-men and Reconstruction", within the next two or three days. Gary
  15. James, Micah, Chris, and Gene: I thank you all for your comments. I do appreciate what has been said. As I indicated in my 2019 note at the beginning of this, volume 1, all of this writing was accomplished over a span of some two decades. Because of the vagaries of "real life" I was in the position where I was only able to write on a part time basis, usually in blocks of 3 or 4 month stretches. Over this same time span I made six trips to NARA, staying on half of these occasions in Frederick, Maryland, in order that I could visit Harold Weisberg and take advantage of his document collection. I had some trepidation in releasing this, a fear that some of the more accomplished researchers and writers who frequent this forum and have an encompassing knowledge of the events of November 22, 1963, might find some of what I cover "old" news. However, I hope that individuals new to the subject matter of the assassination event will find what is contained herein, and the volumes that will follow, of some help in understanding in particular the inner workings of those individuals and agencies given the task of examining the death of a president and the wounding of John Connally. There is, as James can attest, much more of this in volume 2 in great detail while volume 3 deals with what John Connally's aides titled "the Connally document" - the governors attempt to control his version of the past as it related to his wounding in Dealey Plaza and the aftermath that followed. Gary
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