Len Colby

Audio Recordings Document 'Weird Music' Heard By Apollo Astronauts On Far Side Of Moon "If you’re behind the moon and hear some weird noise on your radio, and you know you’re blocked from the Earth, then what could you possibly think?" 02/20/2016 12:52 pm ET | Updated 5 days ago Lee Speigel Reporter, The Huffington Post MARK GARLICK. via Getty Images Earth and the far side of the moon, where the Apollo astronauts encountered the strange music-like radio transmissions. The crew of an Apollo mission to the moon were so startled when they encountered strange music-like noises coming through their headsets, they didn't know whether or not to report it to NASA. It was 1969, two months before Apollo 11's historic first manned landing on the moon, when Apollo 10 entered lunar orbit, which included traversing the far side of the moon where all spacecraft are out of radio contact with Earth for about an hour and nobody on Earth can see or hear them. [...] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/apollo-10-astronauts-reported-unexplained-music-at-moon_us_56c80662e4b0928f5a6c0679

Yes, it is satirical. Oddly it was posted on a friend's FB feed by a friend of his who is a truther (with a sense of humor)

Engdahl geez?!?!? Oil prices are at historic lows and Iran is now re-entering the market, an oil shock seems highly unlikely.

The father of a boy killed at Sandy Hook gets death threats; some people say the shooting was a hoax https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/01/13/the-father-of-a-boy-killed-at-sandy-hook-gets-death-threats-from-people-who-say-the-shooting-was-a-hoax/

Thank you Vasili Arkhipov, the man who stopped nuclear war Edward Wilson Fifty years ago, Arkhipov, a senior officer on the Soviet B-59 submarine, refused permission to launch its nuclear torpedo If you were born before 27 October 1962, Vasili Alexandrovich Arkhipov saved your life. It was the most dangerous day in history. An American spy plane had been shot down over Cuba while another U2 had got lost and strayed into Soviet airspace. As these dramas ratcheted tensions beyond breaking point, an American destroyer, the USS Beale, began to drop depth charges on the B-59, a Soviet submarine armed with a nuclear weapon. The captain of the B-59, Valentin Savitsky, had no way of knowing that the depth charges were non-lethal "practice" rounds intended as warning shots to force the B-59 to surface. The Beale was joined by other US destroyers who piled in to pummel the submerged B-59 with more explosives. The exhausted Savitsky assumed that his submarine was doomed and that world war three had broken out. He ordered the B-59's ten kiloton nuclear torpedo to be prepared for firing. Its target was the USS Randolf, the giant aircraft carrier leading the task force. [...] http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/27/vasili-arkhipov-stopped-nuclear-war

FWIW articles from the Today's Zaman newspaper about the above. Apparently the paper is tied to to the moderate Islamic Gullen Movement. http://www.todayszaman.com/index/ayse-celik

Along similar lines but slightly less loony!!!

LOL - Hilarious video of Wayne Allyn Root rant!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.facebook.com/1081327175240237/videos/1097388946967393/?fref=nf

He was canned. Harassing the family crossed beyond free speech IMO http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/james-tracy-fired_568c533de4b0a2b6fb6db915

The conflict in and around Syria (Iraq, Turkey, Lebanon etc.) and the Kurdish struggle independence or at least autonomy/better treatment are complex messes. Postings from highly biases sources that don't even pretend to provide evidence for their claims are great for reinforcing the choir and other parishioners´ belief that theirs is 'the one and true church' but are unlikely be of interest to others. They are on the same level as unsourced memes

Got anything more reliable than political propaganda?

On a related note How Lou Reed Helped Bring Down Communism in Eastern EuropeBy Rob Wile Just how influential was Lou Reed, who died today at age 71? Former Czech President and onetime dissident playwright Václav Havel was once said to have asked him, "Did you know I am president because of you?" [...] http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2013/10/27/how_lou_reed_helped_bring_down_communism_in_eastern_europe.html?wpsrc=sh_all_mob_tw_top

How timely

Vile crazy scumbag University in Florida Seeks to Fire Newtown Conspiracy Theorist By MIKE McPHATE DEC. 18, 2015 Photo James Tracy Credit Florida Atlantic University A professor in southern Florida who has aggressively promoted false theories surrounding the 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School is facing termination after the parents of a victim publicly accused him of harassment. [...] http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/19/us/university-in-florida-seeks-to-fire-newtown-conspiracy-theorist.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fnyregion&action=click&contentCollection=nyregion&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=9&pgtype=sectionfront

Gaal - I asked about people who would've been involved in carrying out the supposed 9/11 inside job. Edmounds only joined the FBI as a civilian contractor AFTER 9/11. Kevin Ryan worked for a water testing company purchased by UL shortly before the attacks. It was NOT part of the standards testing division. He was fired for falsely indicating others at UL shared his views. 14 years after the attacks none of the other thousands of people who worked for the company have corroborated his claim company officials said it had tested steel used to build the WTC. Several psychiatrists and judges concluded Lindaur was crazy. AFAIK she has yet to get a mental health professional to declare otherwise and not even she claimed to have been involved.

[What a bunch of crazy creepy assholes - Len] ‘They are coming for you’: Sandy Hook truthers escalate threats by posting home address of victim’s sisterConspiracy theorists who believe the Sandy Hook massacre of 2012 was a hoax are threatening the sister of one of the victims to the point the woman and her husband are afraid to go home on Saturday. Truthers accusing Carlee Soto, the sister of slain teacher Vicki Soto, of being a “crisis actor” have been posting her name, birth date and address on Instagram. “Crisis actor” is a term used by conspiracy theorists who believe the massacre at the elementary school was staged by the government as pretense for taking away guns. Twenty small children and six school staffers were killed in the attack. Vicki Soto died heroically, shielding her students. Family members of Vicki Soto have been harassed since the massacre, but told Raw Story it’s never gone to the extent of having addresses posted online. Instagram users are sharing a post that reveals contact and family information, including names of Soto’s mother, siblings and husband, and their social media user names. [...] http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/they-are-coming-for-you-sandy-hook-truthers-escalate-threats-by-posting-home-address-of-victims-sister/

It's possible but not probable. JFK made his remarks in response to a speech Dulles had given to the CFR just 9 days earlier in the same city [2]. The senator's comments were published in the Feb. '54 issue of a journal called the New Leader [1]. Why would Kennedy repeating comments he'd made and published months earlier be "what was perhaps his first defining national moment"? DiEugenio claimed that the 2 statements represented "Kennedy's opposition to Operation Vulture" which he claimed "is simply absent from Dallek" but both appeared on the same page of one of the historian's books he was reviewing. The ball is in DiEugenio's court, if JFK repeated the comment in the circumstances he claimed he should post his evidence here. 1] http://ip-97-74-195-143.ip.secureserver.net/Summary/TNL/V37I7P3-1.htm 2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Look_%28policy%29#Massive_Retaliation_and_the_New_Look

Edmounds worked briefly for the FBI after 9/11 translating Turkish not Arabic or Phashto which she didn't speak (though she speaks Farsi which is related to the latter) and firing had nothing to do with 9/1!. She latter started making far fetched claims about things that would not have come into her purview. Ryan was not an "insider" he worked for a water testing lab in Indiana purchased by UL shortly before 9/11. There was no substantiation for his claims and he was fired for using company letterhead to push them giving the impression his employer backed them. Lindauer was according to several mental health professionals delusional. Only one person supports her claim she gave a vague pre-9/11 warning of a bombing in southern Manhattan. But if we are to believe her the Iraqi gov't was involved.

And it turns out the 2nd JFK quote from the DiEugenio excerpt in my 1st post WAS given during the siege as he indicated. But there is no indication in the text that it had anything to with Operation Vulture, as opposed to the administration Vietnam policy in general. Dallek did spend several pages on the topic and the 2nd quote appears on the same page of An Unfinished Life linked above. http://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/Research-Aids/JFK-Speeches/United-States-Senate-Indochina_19540406.aspx

Well I guess anything is possible Pat. But I've found a few hits to the quote all but DiEugenio attribute them to the speech or at least date them to January 1954. Unfortunately the Congressional Record that far back is only available on microfilm. Even if I lived in city with a library that had it I would have to go through about a month of records because Jim never told his readers the date in any of his various retellings. In one of those he wrote: Kennedy's opposition to Operation Vulture is simply absent from Dallek. In fact, you will not find it in the index to either book. Vulture was the Dulles brothers' solution to lift the siege of Dien Bien Phu and save the French empire in Indochina. It was a giant air armada of well over 200 planes designed to bomb North Vietnamese General Giap's army, which was closing in on Dien Bien Phu in 1954. That mission included the dropping of three atomic bombs. Senator Kennedy rose on the senate floor twice to object to this mission and ask John Foster Dulles how atomic weapons are meant to be used within the tactics of guerilla [sic] warfare. (ibid, p. 23) The odd thing about that is that Dallek DID mention the quote in question in An Unfinished Life (see link below) one of the historian's JFK bios DiEugenio was reviewing. But the former unlike the latter corrected dated the comment to January. DiEugenio -- http://www.ctka.net/2014_reviews/dallek.html Dallek -- https://books.google.com.br/books?id=w3oiOriupLwC&pg=PT155&lpg=PT155&dq=%22the+new+Dulles+policy+and+its+dependence+upon+the+threat+of+atomic+retaliation%22&source=bl&ots=u63eUblJrW&sig=wxPQ_tznM5mQmC2NOytTFpjVHyc&hl=pt-BR&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22the%20new%20Dulles%20policy%20and%20its%20dependence%20upon%20the%20threat%20of%20atomic%20retaliation%22&f=true

Do you intentionally format your posts to make them difficult to read? So of the hundreds of people who would have been involved some supposedly sold their souls to the devil for a few pieces silver ( a promotion) and the others? I like Richard Clarke but accounts of 9/11 related events have been known to have been at variance with those of others. But not even said the CIA held on to the info about the AQ operatives because they wanted 9/11. It seems to have been due to "the wall" between law enforcement and intelligence. You indicated whistle blowers would be killed but people like Cowleen Rowley and Sibrel Edmounds and even ealier whitle blowers such as Agee are still very much alive as are CTs such as Griffin, Jones and Fetzer. http://articles.latimes.com/2004/apr/14/nation/na-wall14_

History Betrayed - DiEugenio rewrites history. On page 23 of Destiny Betrayed book DiEugenio wrote: The operation [Vulture] was to be topped off by theuse of three tactical atomic weapons. When Senator Kennedy got wind of this, he again took to the floor of the senate and had what was perhaps his first defining national moment. He wanted to know how "the new Dulles policy and its dependence upon the threat of atomic retaliation will fare in these areas of guerrilla warfare." Then, during the actual siege, he again took the floor and said, "To pour money , material, and men into the jungles of Indochina without at least a remote prospect of victory would be dangerously futile... No amount of American military assistance in Indochina can conquer an enemy of the people which has the sympathy and covert support of the people." For those of you who don't know Operation Vulture was the proposed US response to the French getting their butts kicked in Dien Bien Phu. The battle began March 13, 1954 and the French asked for aid 10 days later. BUT the 1st JFK quote (underlined) was from a speech at the Cathedral Club, Brooklyn, NY not on the Senate floor, there is no indication John Foster Dulles (or his brother) were present as he indicated in other account. The speech was delivered January 21, 1954, thus 2 months before the beginning of the siege. SOURCES: Destiny Betrayed - https://books.google.com.br/books?hl=pt-BR&id=Gcf19iJnAk4C&q=vulture#v=onepage&q=vulture&f=true Wikipedia article on Operation Vulture - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Vulture Remarks by Senator John F. Kennedy at the Cathedral Club, Brooklyn, New York, January 21, 1954 -http://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/Research-Aids/JFK-Speeches/Brooklyn-NY_19540121.aspx

RE most of this post TL:DR Or it could be people who were complicit and regret what they had done as well as those "realizing that some order they had carried out played a part in the overall operation" or those who observed what others had done. Nothing has happened to any of the various truthers and their families except for a few very low profile ones. Nor have AFAIK and whistleblowers or their families died mysterious deaths