Ian Kingsbury

I cannot get my head around the fact that a Hunter or trained assassin would purposely fire through an angled piece of toughened glass and still hope to maintain the accuracy required?

Ian Kingsbury Nobody testified to a bullet wound in the throat at Parkland or Bethesda, and John Stringer autopsy photographer in his AARB questioning indicated the probe from the shallow back wound did not enter the chest cavity with the lungs removed,Dr. Perry stated 3-5 mm slightly oval ENTRY wound , he cut through this in order to place a trach pipe in the throat as the hand breather was having no effect ,no debris in the throat(otherwise the trach tube could not have passed) David Lifton measured the wound as 1 inch deep and it did not cross the trachea. The entry wound was only seen after the cutting of the shirt and tie,therefore the bullet would have to pass through a minimum of 15layers of cloth which it did not as the tie only has a small slit and does not penetrate all the layers making up the tie. same with the shirt the slits line up when buttoned. Dr. Perry did not leave the throat in the same way we see at Bethesda,but then nobody has seen the official Stringer Photographs just the Fox edition With the military towel under the head and not taken by Stringer ,Although he was ordered to sign for the envelope containing the false pictures as were others these “authorisations” were utilised By the Justice Department through the senate and Church committee hearings . the Justice Department also wrote Humes scripts for the NBC “ Oswald did it “ specials.

Hey Bill, just a theory but considering witness testimony of there being two men seen in the windows, and the reports of the "fake" SS agents in and around the building and the two unidentified "plain clothes" coming down the stairs. I'm thinking it was a classic sniper team. Shooter and Spotter. The Shooter hides the weapon and the spotter rearranges the boxes to resemble a fighting position and frame "the patsy". This gives them time to complete both actions and then head down the stairs. They split up, one goes out the back and one goes out the front. If they encounter anyone they can show their ID and blend in and walk away. Would you be suspicious if a you encountered a stranger and they flashed a badge and asked for a phone? Brilliant. Chris This is similar in nature to Dougherty's "FBI " man , and only the timing And the oddness of Dougherty's testimony as to when it occured. Also if Baker sticks to his first day affadavit and the brown jacket guy was there This could be connected to Denhams discovery of a man "acting suspiciously" On the 3rd floor, as reported by Trantham in his HSCA report.

Bill If we eliminate all but "strangers" in the TSBD at the time and places We have put them it leaves Jack Edwin Dougherty. And we know very,very little about him! Where do you start? Ian

Theres is no peice of evidence that will convince YOU! And never will be.

Almost correct no proof in 1963 Less proof of Oswalds guilt now And the AARB DID NOT HAPPEN DAVE! Have you found out who pm is yet!

All the kings horses and all the kings men Humpty dumpty sat on a wall Could not put Humty together again Humpty dumpty had a great fall In the correct order is a rhyme Otherwise they are just STATEMENTS Personally i think he was pushed How many people did Truly vouch for?

I think they would have to admit that Bill Hicks was correct "No fkin Oswald in the window"

Robin, Thank you so much for uploading these higher-quality frames from Darnell. I certainly will not be renaming Prayer Man 'Prayer Woman', because the frame above puts the matter pretty much beyond doubt: This is Lee Oswald. The womanly appearance is due to the fact that a ) his sleeves are rolled up; b ) the eye is confusing the back of a woman's head with part of Lee's torso. Here's the woman in question's lower leg and foot: If you place your finger to the screen to cover where her head should be, the chief source of the 'Prayer Woman' illusion becomes apparent. This is Lee Oswald. Just look at the hairline. ** And speaking of hairlines, this frame tells us something else: Buell Wesley Frazier knew--knows--Lee is innocent. Someone urgently needs to show this image to him. Sean Somebody should show this to the public and let them decide? BWF will speak through others from now on or suffer a nasty "accident" Ian

Robert Have you read this thread? http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19782&hl=%2Bdesham+%2Bdenham#entry263986 Ian

I have sent Gerda a pm !

Or a camera lens?

Sean Both Baker and Truly knew Oswald was "in the building" therefore they could put him Anywhere they wanted by shift the witness evidence to not conflict too much with thier story. What this does is add more weight to the fact that the 3rd/4th floor "Arrest" by Denham did occur!. This also supports the twin evidence we see with Braden and Florer and the two sets of tramps. Also remember Braden said in his HSCA. Evidence that they were bringing out The rifle holding it by the STRING! A quick shift of evidence can move the time and location or by ommiting it altogether helps their official story. Ian

According to Armstrong and Bakers first day affadavit there was a meeting on the third Or fourth floor involving Truly and a man in a tan jacket. Officer Denham arrested a man on the third/fourth floor acting suspiciously Also seen by sawyer and officer Hill and is in Trenthams report! FLORER/BRADEN were apprehended acter third floor incidents. If they can switch floors how much more difficult to switch buildings? Denham was on traffic at Elm and Houston is there a mix up useful to Confuse like all the double evidence we see right through this case? If prayer man is Oswald then Baker did not recognise him on three occassions The stairs outside ,the lunchroom and sitting next to him when giving his First day affadavit?. And why would Truly run ahead of an officer with gun drawn Whilst he could possibly encounter a gunman coming down. He could have been caught In a crossfire himself. Unless of course he knew something at that time others did not.

In absence of a veiw at other research on this matter. Are some assuming its not Oswald because :- He has to get to the lunchroom so Baker can avoid the man on the 3rd/4th floor? He could not be there and on the 6th floor as the same man is seen just after the shots He had just arrived from the grassy knoll?. Oswald mentions guiding someone to a payphone?

Ray Thankfully you are right. But this does not exclude those characters from attacking this site or its members I see it as a indication of the green eyed monster in themselves. Ian

Moderators As there are no "aliases here" we all have to use our real names. Would it be prudent to discuss the matter of those pseuds That do exist. If this type of discussion is banned here please remove this post. Thank you Ian kingsbury

Duncan Is there a particular thread or do we have to wade through them all? All i get is the photographic page not a thread Ian

Scientists? Plural??? Thomas This is where I found my Moskalev and Oak ridge connectionhttp://www.hss.energy.gov/healthsafety/ohre/roadmap/histories/0468/0468toc.html Ian Bill thanks for the extra info. Ian Ian, what's the Oak Ridge connection to Moskalev? Is he mentioned in that report? Maybe I just didn't see it. Thanks, BK [/quote Bill Goldman says Moskalev visited him in 1960 ,whilst Goldman was connected to Oak ridge before before and during the whole of the sixties. Moskalev was interested in whole body radiation counters He photographed Goldmans own detector. The Russians were experimenting with radiation of different elements I.e. Radium and strontium. The U.S. we're using beagles the Russians were using humans! Ian Ps if be could photograph equipment he would have no trouble gaining access To Oak ridge !

Bill Found this The two-tape set "Shattered Friday" has a total of six witness interviews, relatively balanced, though interviewer Mike Brownlow (who was in Dealey Plaza with his aunt at age 8 at the time of the assassination) sometimes spends a bit too much time expounding his own theories to the witnesses--usually, fortunately, AFTER they have given their accounts. The tapes were done with the participation of researchers Steve Allred (who ran the camera) and Bill Pulte (one of the lesser-known shining lights in the field). Brownlow and Pulte knew a great many Dallas police officers, and were able to interview them more easily than most. Some highlights: Tape One (88 min.): Ted Calloway: Unhesitatingly identifies Oswald as the man running from the Tippit scene. Brownlow (an associate of Robert Groden) has, over the years, interviewed EVERY Tippit witness, and believes now that Oswald was the shooter of Tippit, but not of JFK. Calloway said the man carried a revolver and wore a light jacket. (At a later point, Brownlow mentions that a dark blue jacket was found in the alley down which the gunman ran, in addition to the jacket found in the parking lot--a lot in which Tippit had earlier been parked for a short time.). Officer B.W. Hargis: Didn't recognize the first sound as a shot; second shot louder; didn't know where the shots came from; saw no gun; based on JFK's movement, he guessed shot from the right and rear; there was no Badgeman; knew Roscoe White; White was there, searching the area behind the knoll when he was; saw the black lady who had been having lunch run away (confirming what Marilyn Sitzman said); no shots from the manhole area; no fan of LBJ. Waitress at Austin's Barbecue (name withheld, off-camera): knew Tippit, who moonlighted doing security work at Austin's; saw Ruby and Tippit having coffee together a week or a week and a half before the assassination; Officer Owen Martin, a Tippit partner, came in at 12:15 or 12:30 on Nov. 22, expecting Tippit to join him for lunch [official accounts say Tippit had lunch with his wife at 11 that day; Tippit's former partner, Bill Anglin, told Brownlow that he and Tippit had coffee at 11 that day at the Rebel Drive-In, Tippit couldn't have been home at lunch at the time; Tippit told Anglin he was meeting another officer for lunch, confirming what Martin told the waitress]; Martin left suddenly, about five minutes after he came in, after getting a radio call [likely word of the shots in Dealey Plaza]; at various times, the patrons at Austin's included Oswald, Max Long (who operated an organized crime "safe house" on 10th, as confirmed by Dale Myers), Officer Harry Olsen, Bill Anglin, Owen Martin (Tippit's two former partners), Officer Jimmy Stewart, and Officer Mosely; she saw Johnnie Witherspoon, a fellow waitress, with Tippit on some occasions; she doesn't believe Witherspoon's husband Steve shot Tippit, totally out of character for him; Witherspoon's son resembled Tippit more than Steve; Marie Tippit made a scene at Austin's about a week and a half after the death of her husband, after learning that Johnnie had put flowers on J.D.'s grave (Roscoe White had mentioned this to Brownlow as well, in 1971); Marie knew of Tippit's affair with Johnnie; Harry Olsen was there with Tippit about once a week; when she saw Oswald there, he was talking in a foreign language with a man in his 40s (unfortunately, Brownlow didn't show her a photo array--just guessed that the man was DeMohrenschildt); Jack Ruby came in sometimes, kept trying to get the waitresses to come to work for him; Johnnie Witherspoon lived on 10th St. in 1963 (something she has denied to researchers, but some police officers had confirmed this to Brownlow as well); Tippit was friendly and reliable; he sometimes brought his son Alan to work with him (maybe that's how Marie got wind of Tippit's relationship with Johnnie the waitress). Tape Two (53 min.): Malcolm Summers: two shooters, no shot from the drain; smoke on the knoll. Earnest Brandt: didn't see the head shot impact, as he was running to hide behind a tree [hadn't mentioned this previously, at his wife's urging]; first shot happened just after JFK passed his position; limo brake lights were on, but only for a second; had no idea at the time where the shots came from; he and John Templin ran up to the Pergola to see if anyone from firing from behind it, saw no one back there. Austin Miller (one of the men on the Triple Overpass): a man tried to join them on the overpass, but was turned away from police, as only railroad employees were allowed there; he saw debris fly up from the pavement at the time of the first shot, between the JFK and LBJ vehicles, about 15-20 ft. behind the JFK limo, thought it was part of "the firecracker." Still looking for vids Ian

Is there a non highlighted version I cannot read the yellow on white Was this on a black background at first. Black on white is fine !

Kathleen Have you compared to this one? http://phayemuss.wordpress.com/2010/04/ Ian P.s Sorry it's quite a way down the page!

Why not just read the article I posted for the limited purpose it was written. I.E., Krusch himself is saying the Sniper's Nest was largely constructed by people other than Oswald. This makes it EASIER for Oswald to have done the things I think he did on 11/22, because an already-in-place "Nest" (to a large degree) was already there on the southeast side of the 6th Floor for him to use as a shield.So why are you attempting to diss me in some way on this subject? ~shrug~ David I am not trying to Diss you but you have a terrible time trying to explain How the "killer" got away . You do not see the humour in this episode. It had to be Oswald because ......and never anything else Everybody on the stairs was wrong?.

Carlier?And Mr Krusch the man you ran a mile from. How many twisted testimonies does take to put Oswald in the window? David how did the killer get down the stairs without being seen By ANYBODY?