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  1. David Von Pein

    Need single bullet theory diagram

    Hi Micah.... It's my opinion that there was only ONE bullet wound of entry in JFK's head....and that wound was located where the Clark Panel (and HSCA) said it was --- 100mm. above the EOP.... "On one of the lateral films of the skull (#2), a hole measuring approximately 8 mm. in diameter on the outer surface of the skull and as much as 20 mm. on the internal surface can be seen in profile approximately 100 mm. above the external occipital protuberance." -- Clark Panel Report ----------------------- "It is the firm conclusion of the [HSCA's FPP] panel members...that beyond all reasonable medical certainty, there is no bullet perforation of entrance any place on the skull other than the single one in the cowlick. .... It is the firm conclusion of the panel that there is no bullet perforation of entrance beneath that brain tissue [near JFK's hairline]...and we find no evidence to support anything but a single gunshot wound of entrance in the back of the President's head." -- Dr. Michael Baden ----------------------- And since the lone entry hole in the head obviously caused the large EXIT wound to the right/front/top part of JFK's head too, then that wound could not have occurred as early as Z190. Impossible.
  2. David Von Pein

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    This is getting sillier by the minute.
  3. David Von Pein

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    Oh, brother. Thanks for the "paralysis" laugh, Cliff.
  4. David Von Pein

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    Addendum for Cliff.... I guess, therefore, Cliff, that you must think the assassins who fired the "high tech" shots into JFK's throat and upper back were not even intending to kill President Kennedy with those two rifle shots, correct? And that's why they didn't aim at JFK's head with either of those shots, right? They merely wanted to wing him with TWO separate non-fatal blows to the upper body (and, as a bonus, they wanted to give the Secret Service a little bit of a heads-up about what was to come a few seconds later), is that it? That was mighty nice of the "high tech" assassins to give Mr. Kennedy and the Secret Service a fighting chance that way.
  5. David Von Pein

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    Yeah, that's what I thought, Cliff. I knew you didn't believe the fatal shot came from LHO's gun. Very few (if any) Internet CTers actually accept the truth about Oswald firing the fatal head shot. I was just playin' with your make-believe theories. But it's nice to see a post from you, Cliff, that DOESN'T revolve around the shirt and coat. That's kinda refreshing.
  6. David Von Pein

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    Don't tell me you actually believe the head shot WAS caused by Oswald's Mannlicher-Carcano????!!!! I didn't think ANY Internet CTer believed such a thing! (I'm going to faint.)
  7. David Von Pein

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    And JFK was hit by TWO such "high tech" missiles, eh Varnell? TWO of them which both vanished, while leaving virtually NO DAMAGE behind in Kennedy's body?? Might as well have used a sling shot. It'd be just as effective as these make-believe "high tech" disappearing bullets that Cliff is offering up. Plus----why wasn't the HEAD SHOT a "high tech" round also? And the round that hit Connally's wrist? Those bullets left behind metal fragments. So the assassins used two different types of bullets, eh? All the while trying to "frame" a patsy (who owns a CARCANO) in the Book Depository?? Let's pause for the laughter to die down some..... Cliff, of course, surely knows about the explanations given by former FBI agent James Sibert regarding the "surgery" remark made by Dr. Humes. Don't you, Cliff?.... http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/interview-with-james-sibert.html "In a 1999 telephone conversation from his retirement home in Fort Myers, Florida, [James] Sibert told me that when the casket was opened in the autopsy room, "The president was wrapped in two sheets, one around his body, another sheet around his head." He said the sheet around the head was "soaked in blood," and when it was removed, Dr. Humes "almost immediately upon seeing the president's head—this was before the autopsy—remarked that the president had a tracheotomy and surgery of the head area." When I asked Sibert what Humes was referring to when he used the word surgery, he said, "He was referring to the large portion of the president's skull that was missing." When I asked him why he was so sure of this, he replied, "Well, if you were there, it couldn't have been more clear that that's what he was talking about. He said this as soon as he saw the president's head. He hadn't looked close-up for any evidence of surgery to the head when he said this. I'm positive that's what he was referring to."" -- Page 1060 of "Reclaiming History" by Vincent Bugliosi
  8. David Von Pein

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    Simple Fact --- JFK conspiracy theorists have NEVER (not once) offered up any kind of a valid and reasonable and sensible and believable alternative to the Warren Commission's Single-Bullet Theory....and they never will, since the SBT is the correct solution (by a mile)----with or without the awful Rydberg drawings. It's easy to criticize something. Everything is always open to criticism. But when it comes to coming up with an explanation for what DID happen (if it wasn't the SBT), the CTers have NOTHING to offer. All they're able to come up with is: The SBT is BS! But I want to hear their "conspiracy" alternative, step by step and bullet by bullet. And without a bullet exiting JFK's throat (and nearly 100% of Internet CTers don't think any bullet exited from Kennedy's throat), then the CTers have no choice but to offer up the proverbial "Two Bullets Entered JFK But Failed To Exit And Then Disappeared Or Were Dug Out By Evil Plotters" gambit. (Maybe that silly theory is the main reason I never hear any CTer offer up a detailed explanation of what happened. Because who would want to intentionally embarrass themselves by placing such lunacy on the table for anyone's consideration?) And if anybody thinks that it's the LNer in the equation (meaning: DVP) who suffered the "embarrassment" at the hands of James R. Gordon and other assorted anti-SBTers in this 2015 discussion, then their denial is even more serious and advanced than even I had thought. Because that discussion illustrates---more than I've ever encountered before---the lengths to which some conspiracists will sink in order to avoid the "SBT" signs that exist in the Zapruder Film. The lame excuses I heard from various conspiracy theorists were legendary. I heard "Corrupt frames" and "Connally's merely turning to his left" and "It's only Nellie Connally's shadow that you're seeing". Anything to avoid having to admit that the film is showing John B. Connally reacting to a bullet hitting him at circa Z224. Classic Denial at its finest.
  9. David Von Pein

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    I've never claimed that only one fragment was recovered from Governor Connally's wrist. I've also posted on my website (and discussed) the NARA photo you mentioned (showing the four Connally fragments).... http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/connally-bullet-fragments.html
  10. David Von Pein

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    Point taken. But the "two degrees" I was talking about is the angle through JBC's chest AFTER the bullet has already entered Connally's body. Since it's been established by Connally's doctors that JBC was struck by only ONE bullet, it's obvious what the ultimate path was for that ONE bullet (regardless of the PRECISE angle through the chest) --- i.e., entering the upper right back, through the chest, exiting below the right nipple, striking the right wrist, and then ending up in the left thigh. You obviously think that at least 2 bullets struck Connally, even though you don't have enough bullets to support such a theory. But a few "disappearing missiles" never seem to concern CTers, do they James? If I were you James, I wouldn't be scolding another person for being "an embarrassment to JFK research". Not with this "embarrassment" of yours archived for all to see.
  11. David Von Pein

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    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25012-need-single-bullet-theory-diagram/?page=8&tab=comments#comment-381836
  12. David Von Pein

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    No such "fraudulent presentation" exists, of course. Such a thing only exists in the exceptionally fertile (and humorous) imagination of Mr. Clifford "Everything Revolves Around The Clothing And Nothing Else Matters At All" Varnell.
  13. David Von Pein

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    We're only talking about a 2-degree difference. If the true angle through Connally's body after the bullet struck his rib was 27 degrees instead of 25, okay. It's not a big deal to me. (Again see WCR page 107.) BTW, how many bullets do you think hit the two victims, James? By my rough count, you must think at least 5 different bullets hit JFK & Connally. (And it would be 6 if you think Kennedy suffered two separate head shots.) John Connally's hand was a MOVABLE object, James. And we can't (and don't) know EXACTLY what position his hand/wrist was in when the bullet smashed into it. Therefore, neither you nor I can say precisely what angle his hand was in (in relation to the descending bullet that was coming at him) at the exact moment of the bullet's impact. And you feel comfortable concluding these things even though you really have NO IDEA exactly what position Mr. Connally's right hand/wrist was in at the moment the missile struck him, right? That's incredibly silly, James. Maybe you should read Page 107 of the WCR again.... https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0066a.htm
  14. David Von Pein

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    The bullet trajectory through Connally's upper torso was about 25 degrees. The steeper angle through his chest was probably due to the bullet deflecting off the rib. (See WCR, page 107....) https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0066a.htm And I see nothing magical about the bullet striking the back of Connally's wrist first. If he's sitting there, holding his Stetson on his lap, with the back of his right hand pretty much facing UPWARD, why can't a bullet exiting his chest strike the back part of that wrist? I never have understood why CTers make that scenario out to be impossible. I don't think it is impossible at all.
  15. David Von Pein

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    Why would the WC include something in its report that was so obviously wrong? Should they have included the incorrect "dead Secret Service agent" story too?
  16. David Von Pein

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    And you, Ray, being a CTer, require absolute perfect to-the-millimeter perfection in a SBT re-creation before you'll even begin to consider it valid. But, realistically, it's just not reasonable to expect an event like this to be able to be re-created right down to the last inch. IMO, however, CE903 comes very close to SBT perfection (even though I realize that the 17.72-degree angle isn't exactly right, since it's an angle for the equivalent of Z217.5 and not what I believe is the true SBT Z-Film frame of Z224). So, if you want to say I "want it both ways", OK. But the Z217.5 angle seen in CE903 is so incredibly close to being "perfect", why would I quibble with it and raise hell with Mr. Specter & Company (especially since I fully realize that complete and total "perfection" is not a reasonable expectation)?
  17. David Von Pein

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    No. The stand-in's coat was not "bunched up", which is precisely the point I made a few years ago as a possible explanation for why Specter's rod was a little too high in one of the "opposite angle" photos.... "It would seem as if the chalk mark was also based (at least in part) on the hole in JFK's jacket, which IMO is just totally ridiculous, since we know that the hole in the coat is located well BELOW the hole in JFK's skin (due to the fact that Kennedy's coat was bunched up higher than normal when the shooting occurred). Which means that if the jacket on the JFK stand-in in [this] photo were to be "bunched up" a little bit (and we can see it isn't bunched up at all in that photograph), it would make the chalk mark rise a little higher on the back of the stand-in, which would mean it would almost perfectly line up with where Arlen Specter is holding the metal rod in that picture. That "bunching up" of the jacket could very well be the answer as to why the chalk mark is located below the level of Specter's pointer. If we bunch up the jacket a little bit (like JFK's coat was bunched, per the Croft photo), it's a perfect alignment." -- DVP
  18. David Von Pein

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    And you KNOW with 100% certainty that such a tie/shirt configuration is "impossible", eh Jeff? (You've done tests on it, have you?) A tie is a MOVABLE object, you know. You can easily move it back and forth to the left and right when it is tied. Maybe JFK's tie was situated a little bit askew and off-center to the right when the bullet struck him, which would have placed a smaller amount of the necktie in the path of the bullet, causing the bullet to just nick the left side of the tie instead of hitting squarely in the center of the tie knot. But such a scenario involving a SLIGHTLY OFF-CENTER NECKTIE is not even on a conspiracy theorist's radar, is it Jeff? You like the "semantic trickery" explanation much better, don't you?
  19. David Von Pein

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    I disagree. But even if you're correct, I don't see where conspiracy theorists can go with that conclusion, because CTers are still in the same boat that I (as an LNer) am in --- that is, LNers and CTers alike think there WAS, indeed, a bullet hole in the lower portion of JFK's throat. And apparently you, Jeff, must believe the bullet (regardless of where it came from) completely missed both JFK's shirt and tie. (Correct?) Therefore, from my LN POV, why couldn't the bullet have also missed the shirt and tie if the wound had been an EXIT wound as well? Let's have a look (below) at a photo montage I created. Do you think a bullet (regardless of directionality) could have possibly missed the entire shirt and necktie of John F. Kennedy given the location of the wound seen on the right? My answer to that question would be --- No, it could not have. ....
  20. David Von Pein

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    Well then, Jeff, how did the bullet that CTers think came from the FRONT manage to get into Kennedy's throat without going through the same shirt and tie? Do you think the alleged "bullet from the front" completely missed the entire shirt and tie? How did that happen? And, btw, the bullet did very likely leave behind a bullet hole in the front of the shirt. [WR; p.92] https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0058b.htm
  21. David Von Pein

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    Oh, for Pete sake, James G., you know you can't just draw lines on a 2D image and expect to extract 3D information. Why did you even try? Can't be done. In short, the blue and red lines on your image above are pretty much worthless. In addition, you don't have Connally turned to his right at all in that image. Your picture is depicting a point in time which is several frames AFTER the bullet struck both victims. Why on Earth did you choose that Z-frame for your worthless line-drawing demonstration? Connally was turned to his RIGHT when the bullet struck him, as the Z-Film shows....
  22. David Von Pein

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    We had a discussion about the necktie in April of 2017, James. (Did you forget?) And it's very unlikely that the small "slit"-like tear in JFK's tie was caused by the nurses cutting off the tie at Parkland. I archived last year's "necktie" discussion at my website below.... http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/04/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1244.html#JFK's-Necktie And given the way Governor Connally was turned to his RIGHT when the SBT bullet struck him, I don't see anything magical about the bullet proceeding on a slight Right-to-Left trajectory and being able to strike all three items in question --- 1.) JFK's upper right back (14 cm. below the tip of his mastoid process), 2.) the left side of JFK's necktie, 3.) and John Connally's far-right upper back. [Note --- This photo montage below is not an "official" photo of any kind. The blue circle was put there by me, DVP.]
  23. David Von Pein

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    You don't know that for certain, Pat. We can't even see the chalk mark in CE903. It'd be nice if we could see it, but we can't. And I want to stress the following points once again, as I said to you seven years ago.... "That particular measurement [the 17-degree angle depicted in CE903], keep in mind, is only an AVERAGE angle from the Depository's sixth floor to the chalk mark on the back of the JFK stand-in. It's the average angle between Zapruder Film frames 210 and 225, as testified to by Shaneyfelt. If you split the difference between Z210 and Z225, the 17-43-30 angle would actually equate to the SBT shot striking at Z217.5. But it's very unlikely and improbable that the Warren Commission managed to hit the SBT Z-frame squarely on the (half-frame) head at Z217.5. The bullet, in my own opinion, is obviously striking the victims a little later than that--at Z224. Therefore, what we see in Commission Exhibit 903 really isn't the EXACT angle of the bullet that went through Kennedy and Connally. And I'll admit that. So a tiny little bit of slack and margin-of-error needs to be given to Mr. Specter and the Warren Commission concerning the angle of trajectory depicted in CE903. Because, let's face it, if Kennedy and Connally weren't hit at exactly Z217.5 (and they very likely were not hit at that precise moment in time), then the angle and other measurements are going to be just slightly off. Based on the obvious truth about the angles that I just mentioned above, is there any chance that Pat Speer (or any other conspiracy theorist) would be willing to cut Arlen Specter and the Warren Commission just a tiny bit of slack when it comes to the Single-Bullet Theory? .... The other (opposite angle) pictures WERE taken and DO exist, granted. But we can't know for what exact purpose those photos were taken. But CE903 is the official photo that appears in the Warren Commission's volumes. And that picture definitely does not require a wound to be placed up in the neck of JFK." -- DVP; 12/22/2011
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    The word "approximating" is a two-way street, Ron. It applies to CTers as much as to LNers. And, again, since CE903 is showing only the average angle between Z210 and 225, then quite obviously the 17d43m30s angle depicted in CE903 is NOT 100% accurate (unless you really do want to believe that the SBT shot occurred at precisely Z217.5). It's an "approximate" angle. And yet that "approximation" has two things that we know are spot-on accurate in CE903 (even though it is just an "approximation" and an "average angle") --- the exit wound location in JFK's throat (right at the tie knot) and the entry hole in John Connally's suit coat. But, for some reason, those things being PERFECT (even via the "approximation" we see in Commission Exhibit 903) don't faze an anti-SBTer in the slightest. Go figure.
  25. David Von Pein

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    If you think Specter's rod is "3 inches" higher than the actual JFK back wound, I'd beg to differ. Looks just about right to me. [See pics below.] And I guess you think the WC got Lyndal Shaneyfelt to lie through his teeth when he said.... MR. SHANEYFELT -- "The rod passed through a position on the back of the stand-in for the President at a point approximating that of the entrance wound, exited along about the knot of the tie or the button of the coat or button of the shirt, and the end of the rod was inserted in the entrance hole on the back of Governor Connally's coat which was being worn by the stand-in for Governor Connally."
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