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  1. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/finding-aids/garrison-papers.html List of Folder Titles in the Garrison Papers (Papers Donated by Lyon Garrison) Box 6 : [New Orleans Conference 9/21/1968]
  2. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Sorry for the omission, Footnote 32: Lippincott on Dinkin: filed as Exhibit B, Dinkin lawsuit, February 10, 1964, letter from John C. Lippincott to Honorable Everett McKinley Dirksen, U.S. Senate. Steve: “I don't suppose you have a copy of the New Orleans research conference transcript as cited in footnote 34 do you?” Nope, sorry again. Tom
  3. Eugene Dinkin: The Saga of an Unsung Hero

    Hi Steve, I value and appreciate your fine work. Your request concerning page 555 in TMWKTM must have referred to the 1993 edition of Russell’s book. I don’t find the Nov 7, 1963 cable in the newer edition, but what Dick Russell wrote about Dinkin on pages 349 through 352 in his 2003 edition of TMWKTM is fairly interesting and informative: In March 1962, a Army private first class Eugene B Dinkin was assigned to the 529th Ordnance Company in Metz, France, “as a crypto operator [who] was awarded the requisite security clearance,” according to Lieutenant Colonel John C. Lippincott of the Pentagon’s Legislative Liaison Office. 32 A crypto clearance is among the highest that the military gives, making Dinkin, in effect, part of the National Security Agency, the CIA’s Top-Secret communications counterpart. Until 1976, when portions of some documents on Dinkin were finally released, everything supplied to the Warren Commission about him was withheld from the public. But an FBI report of April 3, 1964, recounted Dinkin’s projection - several weeks before the assassination - “that a conspiracy was in the making by the ‘military’ of the United States, perhaps combined with an ‘ultra-right economic group.’. . .” 33 According to since-declassified CIA files, Dinkin’s warning was known to a number of people before November 22, 1963. It began on October 22, 1963, when Dinkin writes that he mailed a letter to Attorney General Robert Kennedy. Dinkin said, “I did offer in this letter a warning that an attempt to assassinate President Kennedy would occur on November 28th, 1963; that if it were to succeed, blame would then be placed upon a Communist or Negro, who would be designated the assassin; and believing the conspiracy was being engineered by elements of the Military, I did speculate that a military coup might ensue. I did request of the Attorney General that he dispatch a representative of the Justice Department to Metz, France to discuss this warning….” Dinkin realized, he continued, that his letter of Robert Kennedy had an “extremely minimal . . . probability of . . . coming into the direct attention of the Attorney General.” So Dinkin suddenly left his unit. On October 25, he set out to try and contact certain European ambassadors in the nearby nation of Luxembourg, in hopes that his message would then filter through their intelligence networks back to the United States. Nobody would give him the time of day except the Israeli ambassador to Luxembourg, who, Dinkin writes, advised him how best to present his case at the American embassy there. Dinkin says, “At the U.S. Embassy I was interviewed by Charge d’Affaires Mr. [first name unknown] Cunningham, who told me that the Ambassador was playing tennis and was therefore unavailable. I did relate to Mr. Cunningham that I had information indicative of a political assassination to occur in late November in the United States, and he did then guarantee to convey this message to Ambassador [FNU] Rivkin, who would notify me at my military base of an appointment.” A week passed, and no such notice came. Then, Dinkin explains, “I did however learn through the military grapevine that I was to be locked up as a psychotic. I did on November 2nd, 1963 obtain a signed and officially stamped leave permit from the commanding officer of Metz General Depot, and when summoned back to the CO’s office to be told that the leave was cancelled, having concealed the signed form, I did then tear up a blank form. That evening I left Metz, France by train and used the signed leave permit to gain entry to Stitzerland on the morning of November 3rd, 1963.” Thus Private Dinkin went AWOL, and his quest grew stranger still. On November 6 he showed up at the U.N. press office in Geneva where, failing to find the American correspondent he was seeking, he told his tale to “the owner-editor of the Geneva Diplomat.” The CIA verified this in a document prepared for the Warren Commission by Richard Helms on May 19, 1964, and released in 1976 with Dinkin’s name deleted. “Immediately after the assassination the CIA [deleted]reported allegations concerning a plot to assassinated President Kennedy that were made by Pfc. [deleted], U.S. Army, serial number [deleted] of 6 and 7 November 1963, in Geneva while absent without leave from his unit in Metz, France.” In other words, someone with the CIA was aware, at least “immediately after the assassination,” that Dinkin had made such “allegations” two weeks prior. After describing Dinkin’s appearance at the press office, the CIA file continued: “Around 26 November 1963, after President Kennedy had been assassinated, a Geneva journalist named Alex des Fontaines, stringer for Time-Life and correspondent for Radio Canada, was reported to be filing a story to the Paris office of Time-Life recounting Private [deleted] visit to Geneva and quoting [deleted] as having said that “they” were plotting against President Kennedy and that “something” would happen in Texas….” On the evening of November 6, Dinkin writes that he left Switzerland by train and arrived in Frankfurt, West Germany, the following morning. “I proceeded on that date to speak to the editor of the Overseas Weekly, who did regard my warning to be farfetched, and did recommend that I return in haste to the military base to avoid an AWOL charge being converted to Desertion charge.” So Private Dinkin journeyed on to Bonn, where the next afternoon, “I decided that the only remaining alternative would be to return to Metz General Depot and try to deceive the authorities with a story that I had been successful in attending to a “political matter” in Switzerland. Upon my return to Metz on the evening of November 8th, 1963, I did maintain this line with CIC [Army Counter Intelligence Corps] officer Mr. [FNU] McNair, who had been assigned to conduct the investigation [into Dinkin’s disappearance]. I was then notified that I was under arrest and spent the next five days in the depot jail. On November 13th, 1963 I was “hospitalized” at Landstuhl General Hospital in a closed psychiatric ward and was kept virtually incommunicado for approximately one week.” Private Dinkin was still in the hospital ward when, on the evening after the assassination, he says he was visited “by a gentleman claiming to be a “Secret Service agent” who had flown to Europe to interview me regarding the letter written to the Attorney General. He asked the following questions and my answers were as follows: (1) “Do you believe it was the Right or the Left?”Answer: “The Right”. (2) “Why was the date changed from November 28th to November 22nd?”Answer: “I knew of exact date and gave November 28th as an approximate date.” “I then informed the gentleman that under the circumstances of being locked up in a psychiatric ward I would give the government absolutely no information.” Dinkin continues, “Upon being transferred on December 5th, 1963 to Walter Reed Hospital in Washington, D.C. I began receiving “therapy” to help me understand that my warning of the assassination had been “coincidental” and represented a projection of hostility toward authority figures in my family and a displacement of my internal conflicts about inability to adjust to military life. In order to “get well” I was to understand that in approaching European ambassadors I was “really looking for attention and assistance to obtain psychiatric treatment.”…I was let to understand that if my condition did not improve that I could be treated with ECT [electric shock treatment] and I consequently feigned cooperation and understanding of my unfortunate condition (schizo-assassination prognostication) and pretended to participate in group therapy and pharmacological treatment (I faked swallowing pills throughout)…. I was given an injection of a strong drug which left me dazed and was then introduced to a “psychologist from Case Institue of Cleveland” and told that be was conducting a research project requiring my cooperation. I was then required to free associate to a list of words while a tape recorder was in process of recording….” What was happening to Private Dinkin? Was his “therapy” intended to alter or nullify what he may have known in advance about the assassination? Shortly thereafter, he was released from Walter Reed - and the U.S. Army - on a medical discharge. Dinkin’s name first came up in the Garrison investigation, wherein interviews with some of Dinkin’s former Army associates led to the conclusion that he had been hospitalized until he memorized a cover story. And as Garrison’s people pieced the story together, they discovered that one of Dinkin’s duties as a code breaker had been to decipher telegraphic traffic that originated with the French OAS. 34 33: FBI report: WCD 1107. 34: Dinkin as code breaker: transcript, New Orleans researchers' conference (September 21, 1968), pp.73-75.
  4. The CMC-Permindex Papers

    Hi Jeffrey, We might be a little off topic, but a transcription of Richard C Nagell’s letter to Artuo Verdestein can be found here: https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-private-correspondence-of-richard-case-nagell I think it can be safely said that it’s an obvious literary puzzle, and in my view, it’s also a Richard C Nagell letter/number puzzle of vast proportions. I began an attempt to unwind it on a thread a few months ago, but stopped because many of the puzzles referred to line numbers in the letter. Since it’s a typed transcription from the original, the line numbers were, of course, wrong. I began a search for the original letter but got sidetracked with other puzzles. I think one could get a PhD in “ICO” puzzle solving using this work of puzzle-art as the basis. One advantage to studying this Nagell opus is that it was written after the assassination, written after his plan to prevent the assassination had failed, written when he’d learned more. Tom
  5. The CMC-Permindex Papers

    Thank you Jeffrey, My post was meant to show agreement with your observations in the previous post. According to my reading of Richard Case Nagell’s puzzle system, there was a very strong Italian connection to the assassination that I don’t begin to understand - not yet, at any rate. But perhaps it would be best if I saved my comments about this, and other dot-connecting suggestions, for my own threads. Tom
  6. The CMC-Permindex Papers

    Paz I’ve spent a good deal of the past fifty-four years trying to understand the assassination of my president. We are living under the results of that subversion and others like it today. I truly believe that I’ve come upon an aspect of the assassination that has been overlooked, and I’ve been working very hard on it for several years. You just implied that I’m a buffoon, and I’m offended. Tom
  7. The CMC-Permindex Papers

    Serial Number of Carcano: “C 2766” Numbers in serial number translated to letters using the key at bottom: “C C H G G” “C C H G G” are the notes to the theme of “O Sole Mio” using the German scale (where “B natural” is called “H”). The serial number of the most famous Italian rifle in the world plays the theme of the most famous Italian song in the world. Edwin Anderson Walker made his mark in Italy in WWII. “Edwin Anderson Walker” anagrams to: “WARN ED! A NEW KLEIN’S ROD” And: “ED NEAR ALEK’S WINDOW. RN” In my view, all of the above was the work of Richard Case Nagell - his method of story-telling. According to my reading of Richard Nagell’s puzzles, he fabricated his own Carcano, C-2766, to mess up Hoover’s paper trail. Richard Nagell scheduled his Walker pot-shot stunt for 4/10 (April 10) because “Edwin Anderson Walker” also anagrams to: "ED 4/10 WINDOW, RN ARSENAL” (A=0)(B=1)(C=2)(D=3)(E=4)(F=5)(G=6)(H=7)(I=8)(J=9)(K=10)(L=11)(M=12)(N=13)(O=14)(P=15)(Q=16)(R=17)(S=18)(T=19)(U=20)(V=21)(W=22)(X=23)(Y=24)(Z=25)
  8. John T Martin

    Thanks for the tip, Joe. According to the Wikipedia article, Zardoz was a box office flop but became a cult classic. Looks like a complex plot and maybe my kind of movie. Tomorrow I’ll see if my library can get it, and also see what’s on the shelves by T. H. White. I feel a slight connection with Sean Connery anyway, because back in the 1980s, people said I resembled him, both of us having grey beards and ponytails. A group of people approached me at an airport one time, and one of the women said, “Excuse me sir, you’re Sean Connery, aren’t you? And I, of course, said, “Yes, I am”. Thanks for your input above Paul, and for all your digging on this strange Martin film. You and I are getting our information from different places, have different axes to grind, and as a result are slightly at odds about who we think was behind the film and the purpose it was intended to serve. Maslow said, “...it is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail.” And I’m treating the John T Martin film as if it were a Richard Case Nagell puzzle - and I truly believe it is. I decided to start this different John T Martin thread to stay out of the way of those over on your Jack T Martin thread. I will be getting into Nagell puzzle solving 101 and will likely be boring and confusing a lot people. The puzzle material I will be working with is in quotes: (1) “Edwin Anderson Walker” (2) “General Edwin A Walker” (3) “Minute Men” (4) “John T Martin” (5) “1752 Iglehart Apt. 4” (6) “St. Paul 4, Minnesota” (7) Sex: “M”, Age: “17”, Occupation: “student” (8) Hobbies and skills: “music, coin collecting, chess, microscopy” At 32 letters, and being too long for a Nagell anagram puzzle, number “8” above is clearly intended to be an “isogram” puzzle. An “isogram” puzzle is generally a longer piece of discourse where all of the multiple letters are removed to leave a much shorter group of intended puzzle letters. The ICO puzzles often call this the “onion”. The word “ONION” would become the isogram, “ONI”, for example. Here’s another example from what I believe is totally made up name, “IGOR VLADIMIRS VAGANOV”. This can anagram to: “A GRAND ISOGRAM: OVLIIVV” In this case, we are to “isogram” just the last seven letters. This leaves us with: “A GRAND ISOGRAM: LO IV” Lee Oswald and his doppleganger ally, Igor Vaganov. At any rate, the Hobbies and shills line reads: ”MUSIC, COIN COLLECTING, CHESS, MICROSCOPY” (it might be noticed that all words above start with “M” or “C”) Removing the multiple letters leaves us with: “MUSICONLETGHRPY” This puzzle to be anagrammed appears to be a primary puzzle in the group, and later I will attempt to show that key features in the John T Martin film are time-stamped by anagrams of this 15-letter isogram. It will probably be a while before I’m ready to tear the John T Martin stuff apart, and for those that want to work ahead, you’ll need the number/letter translation device at the bottom of the post. You should find time stamps for things that are clearly visible in the film, but also time stamps for periods of near darkness. The dark areas are where our filmmakers are hiding, and some lighting manipulation, I submit, is what the filmmakers want us to do - your anagram answers should tell you this. The cast of characters are Richard Case Nagell (RCN), Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO), Jerry B Belknap (T, or, TN, or TBN), and, of course, Edwin A Walker. You will probably run into Huey P Long as well, and I’m not really sure what that’s all about yet. Why Jerry B Belknap is known as “T”, “TN”, or, “TBN”, in the ICO puzzles has been explained by me in previous posts, and I’ll do that again at some time later. Once again, I’ll give a shout out to those that are good hands at manipulating video, those that could bring Jerry B Belknap and Lee Harvey Oswald out of the shadows between 1:14 thru 1:27. Screen shot at 1:20 of the John T Martin film: Link to the John T Martin film: http://emuseum.jfk.org/view/objects/asitem/classification@Films/10/title-asc?t:state:flow=f3376116-a274-44c2-864b-d11822ad8a2d Tom (A=0)(B=1)(C=2)(D=3)(E=4)(F=5)(G=6)(H=7)(I=8)(J=9)(K=10)(L=11)(M=12)(N=13)(O=14)(P=15)(Q=16)(R=17)(S=18)(T=19)(U=20)(V=21)(W=22)(X=23)(Y=24)(Z=25)
  9. Jack T. Martin

    Link to the John T Martin film: http://emuseum.jfk.org/view/objects/asitem/classification@Films/10/title-asc?t:state:flow=f3376116-a274-44c2-864b-d11822ad8a2d I think there's at least a 50% chance that that's Lee Harvey Oswald at 1:20. What ever one thinks of my hypothesis, it predicts that's Oswald. I'm not claiming that I think this dark image looks like Lee, I'm claiming that there are puzzles associated with the John T Martin film that puzzle out to possibly explosive answers. There are other dark areas of interest in the film as well, and in my view, a first-class film person should be working on this. Screen shot at 1:20:
  10. John T Martin

    Hi Michael, No, T. H. White has never been on my nightstand (nor on my mind much), but I really liked what Disney did with White’s “The Sword in the Stone” in 1963. White died in 1964 - I wonder what he thought of Walt’s rendering? Why do you ask? Lately I’ve been reading works that are, or appear to me to be, source material for some of Richard Case Nagell’s stunts. Specifically, (1) Robert Louis Stevenson, the apparent source for two of the ICO group’s aliases, “A. J. Hidell (Strange case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde), and Igor Vladimirs Vaganov’s alias, “John Nicholson” (Stevenson’s “The Misadventures of John Nicholson). Also apparent in Richard Nagell’s puzzle system are works by, (2) L. Frank Baum, author of “The Wizard of Oz” and “The Master Key”. Tom
  11. John T Martin

    For background on the good work that Paul Trejo (and others) have done on the “John T Martin” film and it’s relationship to General Edwin A Walker, visit the “Jack T Martin” thread linked below. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23168-jack-t-martin/ And here’s a link to the “John T Martin” film at the 6th Floor Museum: http://emuseum.jfk.org/view/objects/asitem/classification@Films/10/title-asc?t:state:flow=f3376116-a274-44c2-864b-d11822ad8a2d And now for something completely different (but possibly related): "John Martin’s Book” was a very popular children’s magazine published in the US between 1912 and 1933, and even though it was fairly expensive, the children’s section of many libraries around the country stocked the full collection up through the 1950s and beyond.The famous mathematician, philosopher, and puzzle genius, Martin Gardner, called John Martin’s Book a “pioneering publication”, and years after the magazine went out of business, Martin Gardner edited and republished the most popular section of the magazine, the “Peter Puzzlemaker” segments. . A prominent and pertinent puzzle in the John Martin Peter Puzzlemaker book is called the “Big ‘T’ Puzzle”, and it’s on pages 63 and 64. On page 63, we, the puzzle solvers, are supposed to use an assortment of geometric pieces and arrange them to form a big letter “T”. On page 64, we are presented with a detailed cartoon of Peter Puzzlemaker standing next to his huge completed “T”. Here on page 64, we are now supposed to find the anomaly in the picture presented. Even though there are often breathtaking similarities between the Peter Puzzlemaker book and Richard Case Nagell's system, from this speculative piece of information I’m not necessarily claiming that John Martin’s book was the genesis of the John T Martin film-stunt. but I will say that in my view, Richard Case Nagell was a puzzle genius and would probably have been drawn toward Peter Puzzlemaker sorts of literature at a very young age. The letter “T” is a very big deal in Richard Nagell’s puzzle system - it's the puzzle designation for his number one tactic for preventing the assassination: “T” is the puzzle designation for Jerry B Belknap, and Jerry’s fit was designed to force the motorcade to take an alternative route. The assassination and the events leading up to it are filled with anomalies that are, in my view, themselves filled with Richard’s puzzles - anomalies and puzzles that surround the activities of Lee Harvey Oswald and the person impersonating him, and the evidence designed to incriminate Lee as the assassin. There is a point to this post and the one to follow. From about 1:13 to 1:28 in the John T Martin film, we see rather dark images of two young men, and my reading of the puzzles associated with John T Martin and Edwin A Walker appear to indicate that the two young men are Jerry B Belknap and Lee Harvey Oswald. I speculate that Richard Case Nagell purposely made the images dark so they would be overlooked, but on close examination, he also knew that they could be brought to light through photographic manipulation. Here is a screenshot I took at 1:20, and if I'm on the right track, this will turn out to be some dandy footage of Lee Harvey Oswald making a cameo appearance. In my next post, I’ll supply some puzzle indications supporting my belief, and also continue my plea to those that are adept at video manipulation to bring out the images, to find the intended anomaly nearly hidden in this John T Martin film - 1:13 through 1:28. Talented video people brought out some of the Prayer Man image from near total darkness. Clarity and detail-wise, this short piece of John T Martin video appears much more promising. Tom PS: Paul Trejo, I don’t see the name "Jack" fitting anywhere in this scenario. If somebody, someplace, sometime, referred to John T Martin as Jack, I suspect it might have been a casual mistake that’s turned into an infecting virus that has only served to slow us down. I also think there is not an actual real-live John T Martin associated with this Walker stunt. But I am curious as all get out about who used this name, John T Martin, when turning over a second copy of the film to Gary Mack two years ago.
  12. Jack T. Martin

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  13. Oswald's pistol cut down?

    Hi David, I spent some time this morning refreshing my memory about the .38, but I can’t address any of your questions. Below is a link to what appears to me to be a good summary of the handgun from pages 481-484 of Harvey and Lee. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.assassination.jfk/Y08uda_h65c
  14. Give it a rest, Michael. How about I let you do your research, and you let me do mine? I've decided to post the 3-D photos here so you can see them now without having to jump around. As I wrote in the post above, I’ll be posting my supporting puzzle material that led me to the 3-D stereo photographs in a new thread. The first set of photos below are CE133A on the left, and 133C on the right, and they are in SUPER 3-D. I simply sized the two photos in accordance with puzzle instructions, and rotated them 88 degrees as per the instructions. One can see deeply down the side of the house. The stairs are practically in one’s face. And Oswald’s 3-D head is thrust toward the viewer. We are apparently seeing the body of Wesley Frazier with Lee Oswald’s head attached, and the chin is that of JFK. I’ll make this argument elsewhere. Lee Oswald owned a Stereo Realist, and many of those cameras had a double exposure function, and those that did not could be retrofitted. Even if Oswald’s Realist had no double exposure function, it would have been easy to accomplish other ways. The camera would have been mounted on a tripod, and tilted 88 degrees. These photos are meant to be viewed with a Stereoscope. Note: For viewing with a Stereoscope, the two sets of images need to be about three inches apart. This means that, say, Oswald’s eyes on one photo should be close to 3 inches from Oswald’s eyes on the other photo. I don’t know how they will show up on your monitor, but do what ever you need to do to comply with the 3 inch requirement. Without a card in the card holder on the Stereoscope, one might be able to view the stereo images directly on one’s monitor - I can. By bringing the stick that carries the card holder close to the monitor, some of you may be able to get a good focus. If not, you’ll either have to cut off the stick, or print out a 7 inch wide copy of the photo pair and put it in your card holder. Once you start asking around, you’ll probably find that many of your friends and relatives have a nice vintage Stereoscope in their closet. The cardboard ones you can buy on line for $3.95 are junk. The 3-D from the SSS card and the 1173 card is tame in comparison to the BYPs, and is most noticeable in the chin area. I'll say that again, it's the chin area that the 3-D creator (probably by Nagell) apparently concentrated on, the head area seems less robust. And the top set of two photos are there merely for comparison - they are not 3-D. With a Stereoscope, look from the bottom set to the top set and notice the somewhat subtle yet obvious difference. 3-D on the bottom set, no 3-D on the top set. Keep comparing the two sets and you should get it. The 3-D is on the subtle side, but it is definitely present in the lower set of two photos. It’s my current belief that we are seeing a composite photo with “Lee’s” (Igor’s) face, “Harvey’s” ears, and “JFK’s” 3-D chin. As before, I’ll make this argument elsewhere. Beg, borrow, or steal, a Stereoscope, and I think you’ll be both surprised and puzzled. Edit added: The set of 3-D Backyard Photos below are similar to the pair at the top of the post, except that I have removed the 12 degrees of keystone. “3D” can translate to “33” using the translation device at the bottom, and puzzle #33 in Oswald’s Historic Diary is: “THEY MAKE NOTES” This anagrams to: “THE KEYSTONE: 12” And “THEY MAKE NOTES” also anagrams to: “KEYSTONE THEM ‘0’” (so I did) (The complete list of 88 Historic Diary puzzles can be found in my June 25, 2014 post at the link below) http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/20276-the-oswald-code/ In spite of the keystone being removed, the vivid 3-D is about the same as the set at the top of the post. Below is the standard and ubiquitous set of BYPs. Notice that CE133A on the left, and 133C on the right display the keystone effect, while CE133B in the center has no keystone. A=0)(B=1)(C=2)(D=3)(E=4)(F=5)(G=6)(H=7)(I=8)(J=9)(K=10)(L=11)(M=12)(N=13)(O=14)(P=15)(Q=16)(R=17)(S=18)(T=19)(U=20)(V=21)(W=22)(X=23)(Y=24)(Z=25) Tom
  15. Opinion: The merging of identities of two individuals, let’s call them Harvey and Lee for now, was a first class operation. For roughly six years up until 1963, the hands-on guy doing the merging was named Richard Case Nagell, and he ran these two guys. While following orders, Richard and Lee (AKA Igor) also created tell-tale booby traps in all of these doppelganger activities so they could potentially double-cross their (profoundly evil) superiors, and potentially show us what they’d done. Richard Nagell used “stereo” and “3-D” as metaphors for the two Oswalds, and while many, if not most, of the Oswald photos are composites of H&L, four sets of photos are in stereo 3-D. Two of these sets of images may be lost to us, but two sets can be seen on the last post of the link below. I’ll be making my arguments on a new thread when I’m damn good and ready, but not here on this thread. “Stereo Realist” anagrams to: “LEE’S ROSETTA. R/I” ("R/I" = "Richard/Igor") Tom
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