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  1. Tom, what I will say about Marina, as I have about other figures such as Nagell, is that as a source she had to be approached with a situational and chronological study of her remarks - which changed over time, and depending on who was questioning her under what circumstances (and for that mater her own legal exposure, which was quite serious). I will be discussing that in an upcoming book which offers a broad and relatively contrarian view of Oswald, innocent and as a patsy- but also as someone who was a lot more than the cardboard cutout we have often made him . He had his own character, his own agendas and his worldview - we (and I) have written too much about him without fully considering that he was not at all one dimensional. The rest on that, and an exploration of Marina and others as sources, I'll leave to the book.
  2. The Milteer threat was reported to both the FBI...who did investigate the individuals named in the tape recording... and it was reported to the Secret Service. Because Washington DC had been mentioned in the conversation, the Secret Service logged it in their PRS file for Washington. And because of their practices at the time, they reportedly only pulled threats logged for the city/cities visited on a particular trip for special attention - which means it was not pulled at all as a threat related to the Texas trip. And even though they did have a credible threat report related to the same ultra right group (the NSRP/to which the individuals mentioned by Milteer were related) for San Antonio, they responded to that there, but did not specifically translate it to Dallas either. That sounds incredibly incompetent, but it appears that their practices of the time did not consider mobile threats. On the other hand since the related SS travel files for that period appear to have been destroyed, we can't be totally sure of that.
  3. That's true Jamey, rather than the HSCA, when Stu and I started our years of work on the MLK case we began with the FBI files, which are extensive and which gave us a very positive roadmap of where to look for the real conspiracy in King's murder - in several instances the Bureau had started off on strong leads and even begun to pursue them. Unfortunately Hoover's directive to focus strictly on Ray, the Memphis DA's decision to use evidence in hand simply to go after Ray (not unlike in the Sirhan case - DA's love having simple cases) meant that the Bureau's work did not go where it might, could have - but it rather than any HSCA material was our starting point.
  4. Jamey, as I understand it the limited number of HSCA records relating to their limited MLK work are still sequestered by Congress itself, basically Congress (and I think a single Congress person) has to formally request the Clerk of the House to release them in some format and that was never done. Stu Wexler has taken the lead in an effort to not only get them released but to work with Congress and he and his high school class actually got a cold case act through Congress to set up a Committee to release related files to a whole series of civil rights era murders from that period. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Cold_Case_Records_Review_Board Stu would be the person to contact about the MLK files....he does post here occasionally and you could also message him.
  5. Greg, that would have been early days when the MFF initially established and was operating under Ollie Curme; he would be the person to contact about the history of any such financial arrangements. I think he posts here on occasion or you might attempt to message him with your question.
  6. Gayle Nix Jackson's book has a lot of detail on the FBI investigation including all the photos including the railroad and path area as well as diagrams and sketches of the route. Its an excellent resource on the Walker shooting.
  7. Gerry, Walker was avowedly and aggressively anti-Communist and anti-Castro, he was frequently quoted in speeches and media on those positions and he had even gone to Miami very openly in the summer of 1963, and spoken in support of the exiles and against the Kennedy Administration on that topic. In response several exile activists as well as a number of their private supporters - Hemming, Sturgis, Hall, Vidal etc had begun to solicit him for money. Hemming would routinely complain about people going to Dallas and trying to cut in on Walker as a funding source - problem is Walker had no real money and was never known to have given anything to their cause. What little he had was going into his own political campaign. In regard to the "training camps" near New Orleans, there is extensive information available on both the MDC camp and the Mclaney dynamite stash and Walker has nothing to do with either. David and I have written about both those in a number of places so I'll leave the details to that.
  8. Excellent point Gerry - I said kicking myself - why the heck have none of us thought of that before. Bolt action rifle, fire and "bolt" especially if somebody is heard running in your direction but safest thing to do anyway. So no shell hull to be recovered... -- Well done...
  9. Well the answer should be in the camera footage of Fritz holding the shells in his hand - which Alyea was positive about filming. Its either one or three so that footage should be the tie breaker and at least answer one question. I did think it a bit strange that Fritz was able to get behind the boxes and pick out either one or three and Alyea could not get at least one from that angle...on the other hand he may only have been wanting a close up of the shell so that might explain Alyea just getting one for him to film - although Alyea certainly didn't put it in those words. -- and I didn't think to ask at him either....too bad we didn't have all the right questions back then...
  10. Pat, the story Alyea told me was that he was in the area of the boxes and Fritz told him the cartridges were there on the floor by the window but the stacking of the boxes prevented Alyea from taking footage.....he complained and said that Fritz picked up all the cartridges, held them so that he could film them and then tossed them back down. He may have changed those remarks at times but I'm pretty sure that is also what he had in his three newsletters...which he happily sold me copies of when we talked.
  11. Some real chronology problems here, is it possible the crime scene photos had been taken and the shells given to Fritz for him to throw down later for Alyea and Alyea didn't really see them in place himself before Fritz then threw them down for him to video? Did that just confuse Alyea? Certainly bad practice on Fritz either way. But of course then Fritz could not have picked them up as Alyea related....of course if Fritz could get to them to pick them up then why didn't Alyea just shoot that angle? Or is it as simple that Alyea is right about everything and the Deputy related picking them up and giving them to Fritz after Alyea had taken the video?
  12. As Pat said, Alyea said some remarkable things - I interviewed him in person at length and corresponded with him over some years. He put a lot of material into three newsletters he did, accusing conspiracy types of lies and misrepresentation while repeatedly talking about how the DPD had itself lied in testimony as related to evidence handling, especially in regard to the crime scene photos of the window area and boxes which he said were all faked on Saturday (and lied about in reports and under oath) because the ones done on Friday had been done so poorly. As Pat says, it was a remarkable, bipolar position, with has him gutting the DPD on all its crime scene work but then defending it to the death on all its conclusions. My impression was that he might have combined some of the things he saw on the fifth and sixth floor in his memories, unintentionally - but he was adamant about the hulls being picked up and then thrown down for him to film...raising the question of whether the official photos of them had been done before or after that happened but certainly raising even more questions about crime scene practices.
  13. Looks like we would have to leave that to Pat evaluate then Roger, of course no such call is on the AF1 tape we have now. Certainly not a Johnson call to Parkland telling somebody (who?) there what to do with the president's body. For that matter I'm not sure how the call would have been made given AF1 communications and the fact that the Secret Service folks were using extensions and even public phones at the hospital. Its an interesting idea but I would need to see a lot of leg work to be comfortable with it... Perhaps you can reach out to Pat for some details, if true its amazing that nobody has made a point to research the timing in regard to the individual movements of Johnson, Jackie and the body and put this issue to bed up to now.
  14. Can you provide a source for a Johnson call from the hospital as well as the timing as related to the movement of Johnson, Jackie and the body out of Parkland? I'm not aware of any such call... Actually if you read SWHT 2010 you have my thoughts on the full chronology of events that day and that has not really changed since I wrote it based on the ARRB releases, Doug Horne's work and my own research on Johnson's security response - which I discuss in even more detail in Surprise Attack.
  15. Paul, I can be specific on this one because we know from the work of the ARRB that they tried to recover his papers in respect to his outreach about knowledge indicating a conspiracy and his daughter refused to release them. If they still exist to some extent they are with his family. In regard to Burkley at Parkland, I don't think he specifically made a decision or gave an order; I do think he related to the SS agents that Jackie was greatly stressed and distraught and that she was refusing to leave the body, if it stayed in Dallas she would stay and it would be more trauma for her. At that point the agents, stressed, feeling guilty and unhappy with all things Texan (and likely not trusting anything local in regard to security) acted at their own initiative and situationally, in their own emotional state.
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