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  1. According to a 1/10/64 FBI report by Butler and Hosty, Vada “stated she was born and raised in Boyd, Texas….” John A. indicated her name was originally Vada Marie Mercer [H&L, 132]. According to gw.geneanet.org, her father, S. Rufus Mercer, was born in Texas in 1905. Her mother, Ina B. Sanders, was also born in Texas.
  2. Probably worth keeping in mind, but there is pretty good evidence that the Russian-speaking LHO was living in Benbrook, Texas in 1947, the earliest reasonably solid biographical data we have for him. Thank you for trying to limit the scope of your posts a bit. It is appreciated.
  3. As you probably know, John A. is particularly suspicious of Frank Wisner and his group. Here’s what John wrote on The Early Years page of our website: ---------------------- "Frank Wisner was a Wall Street lawyer and during WW II worked for the Office of Strategic Services (predecessor of the CIA). After World War II ended thousands of Eastern European refugees were brought to the United States under his supervision. National Security Council (NSC) records show that Wisner, the CIA's director of clandestine operations, oversaw the re-location of thousands of anti-Communist exiles to the United States as a means of rewarding them for conducting secret operations against the Soviets. Wisner became the CIA and State Department’s expert on European war refugees, and secretly subsidized the refugee relief organizations that brought these Eastern Bloc refugees to the United States throughout the 1940s and early 1950s. "Wisner and his group recognized they could use these Eastern European immigrant's knowledge, customs, and familiarity with their respective homelands. Wisner asked the National Security Council (NSC) to sanction the “systematic” use of such refugees, and they (the NSC) agreed. The NSC soon issued a top-secret intelligence directive (NSCID No. 14), which even today remains "classified," that authorized both the FBI and the CIA to find and jointly exploit the knowledge, experience, and talents of well over 200,000 Eastern European refugees resettled in the USA. The CIA soon contacted the Displaced Person's Commission (DPC), which worked closely with the leaders of refugee organizations in the USA...." ------------------- I’ll hold off on contacting NYPL until I hear from you. Note that the 1945 Manhattan phone book is available online, but I haven’t been able to find online directories for 1946 to 1949.
  4. Thank you, Sandy. Here, I'd like to talk about the Russian-speaking young man who was eventually killed by Jack Ruby.
  5. Bill, Is it your honest opinion that all the FBI/CIA disinfo about “Lee Harvey/Henry Oswald” on Oct. 10, 1963 was about a “mole hunt?” Or …. Wasn’t it more likely about turning off the federal spotlights on LHO and setting him up a patsy for the JFK assassination? Would you agree that, if you're going to assassinate the President of the United States, you absolutely must HAVE A PATSY! Otherwise, the search for you will be relentless, and you will be captured! EDIT: The patsification of LHO started before 10/10/63, but those documents were an important part of it.
  6. Matt, With all due respect, you post too much! Even though the Ed Forum admins recently transferred a hundred or so of your messages OUT of this thread, you’re about to become this topic’s leading poster yet again, and just from your efforts of the last few days! Just look at the totals! Despite your around-the-clock screeds, you mock people for not reading—and remembering—every word you post. I am the originator of this topic and, once again, I’ve stopped reading some of what you write, which is unfortunate, because you have some reasonably valuable things to say, although you inevitably overestimate their originality. Please STOP SPAMMING THIS THREAD!
  7. John, In our search to discover the original identity of the Russian-speaking man who eventually assumed the name Lee Harvey Oswald, these issues strike me as the most significant: Finding the original notes of Christina Tippit (still awaiting to hear from Ms. Uccellini). Discovering if Ramaz School has any relevant information. Shedding more light on Ekdahl’s apparently bigamous marriage to Marguerite in 1945 and discovering if his relationship with Rasmina continued at any point after that marriage. More research on George and Margaret Peacost. Finding if there was any follow-up to NYC City Directory, apparently discontinued in 1934. Discovering if the following people were listed in the Manhattan phone book for the years 1946-1949: Fred Blair (aka Carroll Blair?) Louis Weinstock Edwin Ekdahl, and Emil and/or Grace Gardos (Grace Gardos was in the 1945 directory at 217 E 86th) If the only way to answer the issue immediately above involves printed Manhattan telephone directories, can we find an inexpensive NYC researcher willing to go to the NYPL and search for us? I’ll try to contact the library next week about this. Can you think of any other relevant issues I’ve neglected to list above? I’d like to keep a running list of these issues.
  8. All of us surely agree that “The Kennedy assassination is not [just] a murder; it's a political/intelligence operation operating on a 70+ year scale,” but, again, this thread simply is trying to ascertain if the “Lee Harvey Oswald” named by the anonymous caller was actually the Russian-speaking youth who was given the identity of the American-born Lee Harvey Oswald. Toward that end, all I am trying to do right now is find out if the following people were listed in the Manhattan phone book for the years 1945-1949: Fred Blair (aka Carroll Blair?) Louis Weinstock Edwin Ekdahl, and Emil and/or Grace Gardos (Grace Gardos was in the 1945 directory at 217 E 86th) Simple.
  9. John, When you refer to the NYC City Directory, is that different than the Manhattan telephone directory (or phone books for the other boroughs)? Also, did the NYPL provide an answer about the years 1945-1949? If memory serves, the 1945 directory I found Grace Gardos listed in was online from the NYPL.
  10. This needs even more emphasis, because at worst it suggests the possibility of a conspiracy among several members of the Bureau and the Agency. To reiterate... The FBI took Oswald off the watch list, managed by its “WANTED NOTICE” cards, at the same time a CIA cable gave him a more-or-less clean bill of political health, just a couple of months after Oswald’s New Orleans arrest for alleged violence in support of Communist Cuba and less than two months before the assassination. These two actions effectively took the federal spotlight off “Lee Harvey Oswald.” The WC didn’t even bother to depose Gheesling, who ordered the FBI's flash cancellation. “Lee Harvey Oswald” had been on that list for nearly four years, since the “defection.” Now that he was taken off it, he’d no longer be under FBI and SS surveillance on 11/22. At the very same time the FBI was taking “Lee Harvey Oswald” off the watch list, the CIA was publishing several confusing things about him. Responding to a query from the Mexico City station, four CIA officers signed a cable giving lots of accurate biographical data on our boy but calling him “Lee Henry Oswald.” The three page cable expressed no security concerns whatsoever about Oswald and, in fact, indicated the Moscow embassy felt “life in the Soviet Union had clearly had maturing effect on Oswald.” Nothing to worry about here! This cable was signed by Jane Roman (Angleton’s assistant), William Hood (also close to Angleton), Thomas Karamessines (assistant to Helms) and John Whitten who, according to Jefferson Morley, was the only CIA officer of the four signers who suffered any adverse consequences for this troubling cable. John Armstrong believes that Angleton ran the Oswald Project. Again, at the same time the FBI was taking “Lee Harvey Oswald” off the watch list, the CIA was giving “Lee Henry Oswald” (biographical data mostly matching LHO’s official biography) a clean bill of political health in the infamous cable of 10/10/63 (see above). It was now no longer officially necessary for the FBI to monitor “Oswald’s” activities in Dallas. And the Secret Service would no longer be expected to investigate him prior to a presidential visit to Dallas. Although “Lee Harvey Oswald” had been arrested for a supposedly violent confrontation in support of Fidel Castro in New Orleans just two months earlier, the entire National Security apparatus of our Federal government now seemed to just stop worrying about him. What stunning timing!
  11. Awesome! I spent the first 10 years of my life living at 440 Riverside Dr. in Manhattan (near Grant’s Tomb and Columbia University). John K., Paul J. and I are mostly interested in the years 1945 -1949 and would like to know if any of these people had Manhattan addresses during those years: Fred Blair (aka Carroll Blair?) Louis Weinstock Edwin Ekdahl, and Emil & Grace Gardos (Grace Gardos was in the 1945 directory at 217 E 86th) Any help would be appreciated.
  12. The phonebooks themselves are not copyrighted, but we are not dealing only with them. We are working with digitized, indexed, web-oriented repackagings that MAY have copyrightable elements. I’ve worked as an editor, publisher, and book author in the print and electronic publishing business for roughly 50 years, and I know a thing or two about copyright laws also. But let’s stop arguing about this and keep to the subject at hand.
  13. Bill, Without considering which chapter is under discussion, may I ask if you would consider abandoning your statement that LHO “was a spy in his own mind” and at least discuss the possibility that this Russian-speaking young man who allegedly sat in a U-2 radar bubble before "defecting" to the USSR was an actual U.S. spy?
  14. Sandy, My take is that WWII was special. My father landed on Normandy Beach on D-Day plus 4 (four days after D-Day) and he was nearly 40 yrs old. He was a U.S. Army lieutenant in charge of a small group of African-American troops. Matt, Copyright laws are often complex. A collection of public domain elements, if original and comprehensive new material is added, can sometimes be copyrighted again, which may be the case in an analog to digital transformation. There is plenty of case law behind this.
  15. A search for "1946 Manhattan phone book" or something similar produced multiple working sources, including the NYC Public Library and several others. Looking virtually inside the 1946 phone book worked beautifully on several sites, but when I tried for 1948, there was just a brick wall. Lots of references, lots of libraries to visit in person, but no ability to look inside the 1948 book online. My bet is it is either a copyright exclusion or a limit to how many people are willing scan and publish that many pages. Hopefully, I'll have something to send your way from Connecticut soon.
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