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Jeremy Bojczuk

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  1. Bill Fite writes: I'm not claiming that a fictional defector would have started at the age of 19. I suspect you're confusing the real-life, historical, one and only Lee Harvey Oswald's acquisition of Russian with that of the fictional Oswald doppelganger imagined by 'Harvey and Lee' believers. The point I was making was that if (as 'Harvey and Lee' doctrine proclaims) the masterminds at the CIA were planning in the late 1940s or early 1950s to send over a false defector whose job it was to eavesdrop on Russian conversation, it would have been vastly more practical for them to recr
  2. There's a serious problem with the basic premise of the 'Harvey and Lee' nonsense. Surprisingly, although the theory has been going for two decades or more, none of its believers appear to have been aware of the problem until recently. I've mentioned it on at least three other threads (here and here and here), and so far the faithful have not been able to come up with a reply. Since this thread was set up by the chief 'Harvey and Lee' evangelist to discuss the specifics of his beloved theory ("right here"), I thought I might as well mention the problem right here too, and try to shame the
  3. Bill Simpich has just informed us that part 12 of his excellent Legend series is now online at https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Oswald_Legend_12.html. Simpich deals with several of the apparent instances of Oswald being impersonated shortly before the assassination. He makes a very plausible case that Jack Lawrence, the short-term car salesman colleague of Albert Bogard, went out of his way to publicise the reckless test drive by someone who may or may not have been Oswald. Greg Doudna writes that the "14-year-old boy" seen by Cliff Shasteen might have been the 19-year-old B
  4. Jim Hargrove writes: But they weren't. Nothing in the JFK assassination story requires the existence of doppelganger Oswalds. Everything can be plausibly explained without the use of doppelgangers, and especially without the use of the far-fetched and internally incoherent 'Harvey and Lee' long-term fake Oswald and fake Marguerite double-doppelganger scheme. Impersonators are not the same thing as doppelgangers. The impersonation of Oswald in Mexico City didn't involve a doppelganger. If, as Greg Doudna points out, any of the incidents in Dallas were more than cases of mistaken id
  5. Jim Hargrove writes: In other words: The Oswald who defected might have been a native speaker of Russian, if he had learned the language instinctively as a pre-school-age child. Or he might have been a native speaker of English who had learned an indeterminate amount of Russian uninstinctively, during his school years. We haven't made our minds up about that. But because the defector forgot some, or most, or all of his Russian (we haven't made our minds up on that either), he had to start learning it all over again in his late teens. Fortunately, he had a head start because h
  6. As Robert also points out, there's nothing miraculous about Oswald's acquisition of Russian. Oswald began poorly and gradually got better, like every non-native speaker, but he never stopped making mistakes. At least some of his knowledge was acquired by self-study, with the help of Russian newspapers and a Russian-English dictionary. There was ample opportunity for him to have received tuition while in the Marines. And it is an uncontroversial fact that some people are naturally much better than others at learning languages. Just because people can pick up a foreign language more easily
  7. Robert Charles-Dunne writes: There's a remarkable number of things which can be explained plausibly without needing to use the 'Harvey and Lee' double-doppelganger theory: (a) Oswald's impersonation in Mexico City and Dallas - no doppelgangers are required in order to explain this. (b) The framing of Oswald for the assassination, before and after the event - no doppelgangers required. (c) The assassination itself and the murder of Officer Tippit - no doppelgangers required. (d) The assassination as a conspiracy - no doppelgangers required. (e) Oswald's leaving
  8. Bill Fite writes: Learning Russian to a reasonable but far from expert level may not be easy for you or me, but it's certainly within the reach of those lucky people who have a greater natural aptitude for languages than we do. 'Harvey and Lee' doctrine (or at least last week's version of it; it seems to change from time to time) was that the defector didn't need to be a native or expert speaker of Russian. He just needed to be able to understand spoken Russian: a much lower level of attainment. It's perfectly possible for a native English speaker with a talent for languages to le
  9. The question remains: why would the masterminds behind the 'Harvey and Lee' false-defector scheme not have used the most obvious and practical means to achieve their goal? No hypothetical doppelgangers were required. The masterminds had no need for the 'Harvey and Lee' theory's two virtually identical but unrelated Oswalds and two virtually identical but unrelated Marguerites. All the masterminds needed was one American with a knack for languages. This is all they needed to do: (a) Identify and recruit one American serviceman with a talent for languages. (b) Allow that pers
  10. Sandy Larsen writes: Unfortunately, Jim has not yet managed to answer the question, for obvious reasons. If an answer to my question existed, I'm sure that either Jim or Sandy would have produced it for us by now. Jim's and Sandy's repeated failure to answer the question makes it clear that they accept the obvious conclusion: the far-fetched 'Harvey and Lee' long-term double-doppelganger scheme was unnecessary.
  11. Jonathan Cohen writes: Indeed. We know that Oswald was teaching himself Russian at least partly with the help of newspapers and a Russian-English dictionary, because his Marine buddies saw him doing so. We also know a couple of other things: (a) In the early stages of learning the language, his Russian was, unsurprisingly, not very good. He scored poorly ("his rating was poor throughout") on what appears to have been a fairly basic test in Russian. (b) He frequently made grammatical mistakes in Russian even after having spent two and a half years living among native spea
  12. Jim seems to be unable to answer my question, so let's give Sandy a go. Let's put ourselves in the shoes of the imaginary masterminds behind the 'Harvey and Lee' double-doppelganger scheme. They wanted to infiltrate a false defector, ideally an American serviceman, into the Soviet Union, so that he could secretly understand the Russian that was being spoken around him. The masterminds needed to work out a way to achieve that goal. How would they go about it? Firstly, they would have worked out what they needed: 1 - They needed an American serviceman, and they had at least 2.5 mi
  13. As I have pointed out several times now, it makes no difference whether or not Oswald was a native speaker of Russian (which he clearly wasn't). Either way, the same problem arises: the 'Harvey and Lee' theory's far-fetched long-term double-doppelganger scheme was unnecessary. Credit to Jim for not waving the white flag and heading for the hills, unlike his more timid confrères, Messrs Larsen, Norwood and Butler. Jim's technique to avoid facing up to the problem is slightly different to theirs. Instead of running away and thereby admitting that he has no solution to the problem, he ignore
  14. Jim Hargrove writes: As Jonathan points out, the real-life, historical Lee Harvey Oswald didn't use the newspaper in order to find out what was going on in the world; he used it to help himself learn Russian. Using a foreign-language newspaper to help yourself learn that language is a very common technique. If Jim had actually read the post of mine that he was replying to, he would have seen this statement by Oswald's Marine buddy, Mack Osborne: Oswald was teaching himself to read Russian, using the newspaper and a Russian-English dictionary. If he was teaching himself Rus
  15. Jim Hargrove writes: As I pointed out elsewhere, the historical Lee Harvey Oswald learned Russian at least partly by teaching himself while in the Marines. We know this because several of his Marine buddies said so (Warren Commission Hearings and Exhibits, vol.8: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=36) . James Anthony Botelho (p.315): "It was common knowledge that Oswald had taught himself to speak Russian." David Christie Murray (p.319): "When I knew him, he was studying Russian." Henry J. Roussel (pp.320-1): "I remember that Oswald could speak a little Russi
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