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  1. An essential read with Gary Mack and David Lifton: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.assassination.jfk/c/bRJ690ZcAUg/m/NgC6NPEDpUEJ?pli=1
  2. ALSO Gochenaur only later added the detail about Elmer Moore showing him Kennedy autopsy photographs. Gochenaur, in a 11/4/1970 letter to Harold Weisberg describing his interactions with Secret Service agent Elmer Moore, wrote “...Then he said something that did surprise me to no end. He said he and others studied the photos of President Kennedy's head wounds and that nothing was out of the ordinary?!? He told me that the photos could not prove anything worthwhile. I asked him about having competent medico-legal personnel take a look at the photos. again, he said something to the effect, "It wouldn't prove anything". I believe that agent Moore was either lying to me or that the Warren Report statements are a fraud as to the status of the autopsy photos. Could you make a comment on this?” (Link). In another letter from Gochenaur to Weisberg, dated 12/11/1970, it reads “After talking for some time on the value of the Mooreman Photo with Moore I asked Him why no one was allowed to view the autopsy photographs. Mr. Moore said, "I did." The following paragraph is an attempt at what Moore followed this remark with verbatum. "Lots of people saw em. Look, let me ask you something, what would prints prove anyway. They couldn't give you angles or anything like that. We looked over that rail yard, or bullets, nothing. If there were others shooting at him, where did they go? Do you know Garrison? Well, he thinks a guy popped up and hit him with a 45 from a sewer. Look, I must have seen the zapruter film a thousand times---nothing, nothing at all. We saw several movies, lots of photos, and there just isn't anything to prove from them. Pictures can't tell you as much as you seem to think."” (Link [link 2]). In 2021, James Gochenaur claimed that Elmer Moore actually showed him an autopsy photograph (Black Op Radio, show #1071, 12/2/2021 [audio, 31:33]; JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass, 2022 book by James DiEugenio) – as opposed to his earlier statements where he described just being told of the pictures by Moore. When interviewed by James DiEugenio, Gochenaur said “...And then he showed me—another shock—he showed me a color photograph, 8 x 10, of President Kennedy in autopsy I assume. It was different from Mr. Groden’s pictures in that this side of the face, the right side of the face, the eye was swollen. And it was black and blue”. When DiEugenio replied “I don’t remember ever seeing an autopsy photo like that, that you described”, Gochenaur said “I don’t like to talk about it. I’ll talk about it with you” (JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass, 2022 book by James DiEugenio). There doesn’t seem to be any known prior instance of Gochenaur claiming that Moore showed him an autopsy photo – and in a 5/10/1971 letter to Weisberg, Gochenaur gave a detailed list of materials that he said Elmer Moore showed him, and autopsy images were not mentioned (Harold Weisberg Archive, jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/G Disk/Gochenauer James/Item 12 [link 2]).
  3. I'm sorry but why shouldn't I strongly suspect that Gochenaur was trash? Gochenaur claimed that Elmer Moore told him about the time he spoke to Dr. Perry, discussing with Perry the details from the official autopsy protocol, among other things. Moore allegedly said that he questioned Perry regarding his confidence in whether the throat wound was an entry or exit. Moore was quoted as saying that he was ordered to do this (Church Committee report on 6/6/1975 interview with Gochenaur; HSCA 180-10086-10438, HSCA interview of James Gochenaur, 5/10/1977 [text] [link 3]; Grassyknoll.us, The Jim Gochenaur Interviews, 2020; JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass, 2021 film; JFK: Destiny Betrayed, 2021 series; Black Op Radio, show #1071, 12/2/2021; JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass, 2022 book by James DiEugenio). Beginning in 1970, James Gochenaur exchanged letters with Harold Weisberg (Archive.org, Weisberg Collection on the JFK Assassination, Gochenauer James; Harold Weisberg Archive, jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/G Disk/Gochenauer James). In a letter to dated 5/10/1971, Gochenaur wrote a list of details on when he says Elmer Moore showed him his personal briefcase of pictures and documents on the assassination, which included “Rough handwritten notes on interviews” with, among others, Dr. Perry and Dr. Humes. Humes’ name has an asterisk after it, noted as “means he wouldn't let me read them” Gochenaur wrote of Moore meeting Perry “A. No date on notes: (Moore said it was the 28th or 29th of Nov.) B. Moore brought with him Humes report. C. Moore told me several times he did not "twist Perry's arm", which leads me to believe he might have. D. Perry said he did not see a back wound. E. Perry did not observe a hole near the top, front of right ear. F ) Moore drew "rough renderings" of discription of head wounds”, then on the letter is a drawing of a right-profile view of a head with a large circular wound above the ear, with an arrow pointed to it labeled “missing area”, as well as small wounds in the lower back of the head, upper back, throat, as well as a spot on the forehead pointed at by an arrow labeled “"wound" near left eye. Right eye swollen”. Below the drawing it reads “Moore showed Perry drawings and "other visual aids" the back wound from Humes work. Moore wrote up a long memo to the Commission. The basic summary of which was: 1. The wound can not indicate conclusively the angles of the shots. 2. The direction of the shots are above and behind. 3. The photos of wounds likewise can not conclusively give angles - (he left out direction). according to Moore, Warren told him that its best just not to talk conspiracy: we just don't have anything”... “Moore doesn't know, of course, I'm writing to you. His motives for letting me peek into his horror chest is unknown. I sense a guilt thing"” (Harold Weisberg Archive, jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/G Disk/Gochenauer James/Item 12 [link 2]). No mention of Elmer Moore flashing a gun to him in any of his early letters or official statements, unless you can find something I can't. His Church Committee testimony is lost, but his Church Committee interview report isn't, and neither is his HSCA testimony. I wish I could've gone to the Pittsburgh conference to try and ask him about this.
  4. There needs to be a master list of information suggesting conspiracy theorizing in the Kennedy family.
  5. Both Dr. Ronald Jones and Dr. Lito Porto are still alive, but they have still never clarified anything about what Jones told the ARRB, about a small frontal wound.
  6. Specter originally said it was Tom Kelley who showed him the unauthorized reproduction photo, then in 2003 said it was Elmer Moore.
  7. Gochenaur described that when he was speaking to Moore face-to-face, asking him about the alleged plot to assassinate Kennedy in Chicago earlier in 1963, it’s relation to Thomas Arthur Vallee, and the corresponding investigation by Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden. Bolden had in 1964 been accused of participating in bribery, something that he has always denied. Bolden would also claim that there was a general problem of Secret Service agents drinking on the job. According to Gochenaur, Moore grabbed a pistol, placed it on the table, and demanded that he say who he was working for, to which he replied that his interest was only private, and then Moore acknowledged his awareness of the alleged Chicago Plot, as well as his extreme dislike of Abraham Bolden, exclaiming something along the lines of “we finally got him” (Grassyknoll.us, The Jim Gochenaur Interviews, 2020; JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass, 2021 film; JFK: Destiny Betrayed, 2021 series; JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass, 2022 book by James DiEugenio). The detail about the pistol does not seem to be included in any other of Gochenaur’s earlier recorded statements (Archive.org, Weisberg Collection on the JFK Assassination, Gochenauer James; Harold Weisberg Archive, jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/G Disk/Gochenauer James; Church Committee report on 6/6/1975 interview with Gochenaur; HSCA 180-10086-10438, HSCA interview of Gochenaur, 5/10/1977 [text] [link 3]; CAPA, Nov. 2018 event, The Last Witnesses – Revealing The Truth). When Gochenaur was on Black Op Radio in 2021, he elaborated that Moore said “well, we got that goddamn lying” (N-word), and when Moore was asked “You got him?”, he allegedly replied “No, Kelley and the chief did” (Black Op Radio, show #1071, 12/2/2021, 44:59).
  8. Yes, and Robert Oswald told Lifton that Lee said to him in jail "Don't believe the so-called evidence".
  9. Somewhere here: Nov. 2013 interview of Lifton by Jon Martinson [video, part 1] [link 2]
  10. One day I'll post a master list of every purported bone fragment. In the meantime, I have this: Neither Drs. Humes nor Boswell were experienced in gunshot wounds. Dr. Finck was experienced (Bugliosi, Reclaiming History, 2007, Book One: Matters of Fact: What Happened, Kennedy's Autopsy and the Gunshot Wounds to Kennedy and Connally), but he only arrived at the autopsy AFTER the brain had been removed through the skull (ARRB MD 28, 1/25/1965 and 2/1/1965 Reports From Dr. Finck to Gen. Blumberg; Finck's Shaw trial testimony, 2/24-2/25/1969 [text]; ARRB MD 30, Finck's HSCA testimony, 3/11/1978 [text] [audio]). While the autopsy was in progress, the pathologists were given a portion of skull bone which was reportedly found in the Limousine (HSCA Vol. 7, p. 23, 3/29/1979, Medical Panel Report, Section II. Performance of Autopsy). According to the official autopsy protocol and Humes' testimony, there were three late-arriving skull fragments (WC D 77, p. 4 [text]; WC Vol. 2, p. 347, 3/16/1964 WC testimony [text]). There is an x-ray in the official record showing three skull fragments, one large and two small (HSCA Vol. 7, p. 121). The pathologists said a large skull fragment they received showed external beveling which suggested it was a part of a bullet exit (WC D 77, p. 4, autopsy protocol [text]; WC D 7, p. 280, Sibert and O'Neill FBI report, 11/26/1963; WC Vol. 2, p. 347, Humes WC testimony, 3/16/1964 [text]; WC Vol. 2, p. 377, Finck's WC testimony, 3/16/1964 [text]), as well as dense particles resembling metal (ARRB MD 149, 11/23/1963 FBI teletype from James Sibert and Francis X. O'Neill; WC D 77, p. 4, autopsy protocol [text]; WC D 7, p. 280, Sibert and O'Neill FBI report, 11/26/1963; WC Vol. 2, p. 347, Humes WC testimony, 3/16/1964 [text]). Dr. Humes told the Warren Commission “I would estimate that approximately one-quarter of that defect was unaccounted for by adding these three fragments together and seeing what was left” (WC Vol. 2, p. 347, 3/16/1964 testimony [text]). When the body was being prepared for burial, a type of plaster was used to fill the empty voids in the skull (ARRB MD 65, HSCA report on 8/24/1977 interview with James Curtis Jenkins; ARRB MD 64, HSCA interview of Paul O'Connor, 8/29/1977; O’Connor, 4/20/1990 and 5/9/1990 interviews by Harrison Livingstone, High Treason 2, 1992, p. 256-257, Chapter 12. The Recollections of Paul O’Connor; O’Connor, 6/11/1990 interview by Harrison Livingstone, Killing The Truth, 1993, p. 729, Appendix J, Encyclopedia of Medical Events And Witness Testimony, PREPARING THE BODY FOR BURIAL; Jenkins, 4/6/1991 Dallas conference [video, part 1, 14:17] [video, part 2, 35:33, 57:20]; Joe Hagen, 8/15/1991 interview by Livingstone and Kathlee Fitzgerald, Killing the Truth, 1993, p. 728-729, Appendix J, Encyclopedia of Medical Events And Witness Testimony, PREPARING THE BODY FOR BURIAL; Tom Robinson, 8/17/1991 interview by Harrison Livingstone, High Treason 2, 1992, p. 580-581, Chapter 28. What Really Happened, Who Benefited?; Notes on 5/26/1992 interview with Tom Robinson by Joe West [Link] [link 2] [link 3, Journal News, 12/28/2013]; ARRB MD 182, ARRB report on 5/17/1996 interview with Joseph E. Hagan; Humes ARRB deposition, 2/13/1996 [text]; ARRB MD 180, ARRB report on 6/21/1996 interview with Robinson; Jenkins, A Meeting Of The Minds, Nov. 2017 [video, 49:30]; At the Cold Shoulder Of History by William Law and James Jenkins, 2018 [link]), and a piece of rubber was used to cover the area of missing scalp (ARRB MD 63, HSCA interview of Tom Robinson, 1/12/1977; ARRB MD 64, HSCA interview of Paul O'Connor, 8/29/1977; HSCA Vol. 7, p. 243, HSCA interview with Humes and Boswell, 9/16/1977 [text] [audio]; O’Connor, 4/20/1990 and 5/9/1990 interviews by Harrison Livingstone, High Treason 2, 1992, p. 256-257, Chapter 12. The Recollections of Paul O’Connor; O’Connor, 6/11/1990 interview by Harrison Livingstone, Killing The Truth, 1993, p. 729; 8/17/1991 interview of Robinson by Livingstone, High Treason 2, 1992, p. 580-581, Chapter 28. What Really Happened, Who Benefited?; Notes by Joe West on 5/26/1992 interview with Robinson [link 2] [link 3, Journal News, 12/28/2013]; Humes ARRB deposition, 2/13/1996 [text]; ARRB MD 180, ARRB report on 6/21/1996 interview with Robinson; In The Eye Of History by William Law, 2004, Paul K. O’Connor, James C. Jenkins; Jenkins, A Meeting Of The Minds, Nov. 2017 [video, 49:30]; Jenkins and Law, At the Cold Shoulder Of History, 2018 [link]). - More bone fragments were either reported but never recovered or recovered but later lost. These fragments could have held valuable evidence. We know of a fragment reportedly found on 11/23/1963 by William Allen “Billy” Harper, lying on the ground in Dealey Plaza. Billy Harper gave the fragment to his uncle, Dr. Jack C. Harper, who then brought it to Methodist Hospital in Dallas. By 11/25/1963, it was examined and photographed along with Dr. A.B. Cairns and M. Wayne Balleter. (HSCA Vol. 7, p. 122, Medical Panel Report, Section V. Report of the Forensic Pathology Panel, Description of President Kennedy's Wounds, Exit (outshoot) wound of the side of the head, 4. "Harper bone fragment" [text]). On 11/26/1963, custody of the Harper fragment was given to James W. Anderton of the Dallas FBI office (WC D 5, p. 150 [scan 2] [scan 3] [scan 4] [scan 5]; FBI 62-109060 JFK HQ File, Section 1, p. 99 [scan 2]). A 11/25/1963 document by Anderton discussed planning to have the Secret Service obtain the fragment, until deciding that the FBI should receive it for examination at their Laboratory in Stafford County, Virginia (FBI 89-43-479 [scan 2]). At the FBI lab, more photographs were taken, as well as x-rays (Into Evidence, presentation by John Hunt). The photos and x-rays still survive in the storage of the National Archives, even if the fragment itself has gone missing (HSCA Vol. 7, 3/29/1979, p. 24, Medical Panel Report, Section III. Chain of Custody of the Materials Acquired During the Autopsy, 2. Physical specimens retained during the autopsy or discovered at the scene of the assassination [text]). Documents from the FBI detail how the fragment was given to Dr. George Burkley, JFK’s former personal physician, on or around 11/27/1963 (FBI 62-109060 JFK HQ File, Section 1, p. 99; FBI 62-109060-438; FBI HQ RN 124-10017-10014; USSS RN 179-10001-10039 [scan 2]; FBI 62-109060-990). Handwriting on the lab work sheet says the fragment was delivered to Dr. Burkley at the White House by "McWright", at "4:30 PM 11/27 by his request" (FBI 62-109060 JFK HQ File, Section 1, p. 100-102 [scan 2] [scan 3]). A 11/27/1963 document from Burkley reads “11/27/63 5:15 p.m. Just received a small Neman Markus box about 2 1/2" x 3 1/2" containing material which had been discussed previously with them. A letter of the full report will be made. This material will be deposited with the Commanding Officer of the Bethesda Naval Hospital for subsequent retention with other material of similar nature. Material was received in the presence of Dr. James M. Young and me. The contact with the FBI was Roy Jevous at Code 175 x 353”. What may be the last word we have on the whereabouts of the fragment is from a HSCA report on a 8/17/1977 interview with Burkley: “Regarding the skull fragments, DR. BURKLEY said the one which was found on the street had been given to the FBI. He said he'd received a letter from the uncle (presumably DR. HARPER) and that the fragment came to him at the White House and he then gave it to the FBI”, “DR. BURKLEY does not recall who he gave the single skull fragment to (associated with the FBI), but remembers having it taken to the FBI” (ARRB MD 19, p. 4-6 [text]). A total discrepancy – the FBI said they gave the fragment to Burkley, and Burkley said he gave it to the FBI. This issue was not pursued in the Committee's medical panel report (HSCA Vol. 7, 3/29/1979, p. 24 [text]). The FBI Lab notes on the Harper fragment claim that no bullet metal was found, but that Spectrochemical Analysis was not performed, which would have proven whether or not metal was present. There is a notation saying "no report to be made" (FBI 62-109060 JFK HQ File, Section 1, p. 100-102 [scan 2]). The lab findings were summarized in FBI documents, saying the fragment was "examined microscopically" for bullet metals but "none were found" (FBI HQ RN 124-10017-10014; WC D 5, p. 151 [scan 2] [scan 3]; FBI 62-109060 JFK HQ File, Section 5, p. 170; USSS RN 179-10001-10039 [scan 2]). There is a lot of information contradicting this. A HSCA report on a 8/9/1977 interview with Dr. A.B. Cairns reads "DR. CAIRNS remembered a small area of the skull fragment showing grayish discoloration suggesting metal had stained the bone. He said he had had experience with lead-caused damage in the past which looked similar to this discoloration" (ARRB MD 19). In 2005, researcher John Hunt pointed out that an x-ray of the Harper fragment shows a small amount of high-density material on it's corner edge (Hunt, Into Evidence). In the same area of that dense material, Dr. David Mantik said the original photos of the Harper fragment show some dark discoloration on the outer surface of the bone (The JFK Autopsy Materials: Twenty Conclusions after Nine Visits; JFK assassination conference evidence presentation, Nov. 2018). There were more possible sightings of lost bone fragments (ARRB MD 54, Burkley receipt, 11/27/1963; HSCA Vol. 7, p. 23, 3/29/1979, Medical Panel Report, Section III. Chain of Custody of the Materials Acquired During the Autopsy, 2. Physical specimens retained during the autopsy discovered at the scene of the assassination [text]; WC D 80, Secret Service report on the Presidential Limousine, 1/6/1964, p. 4; WC Vol. 7, p. 105, WC testimony of Seymour Weitzman, 4/1/1964 [text]; Murder From Within by Fred T. Newcomb and Perry Adams, written 1974 and published 2011, Part II: The Body Snatchers, Chapter Six: Bethesda How Kennedy’s Wounds Were Altered, interview with Harry D. Holmes; No More Silence by Larry A. Sneed, 1998, interviews with Jack Faulkner, Vincent Drain, and Joe Cody).
  11. Kudos to Lifton for towing the line of "Oswald kept his secrets from everybody, including his wife. He was a good actor". Marina did say that if she could ask Lee any question now, she wouldn't ask if he killed Kennedy because she already knows he didn't, she would ask "who are you?".
  12. I'd be very interested in a google drive link to the uncompressed image files
  13. See his last 3 appearances on the Night Fright show with Brent Holland.
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