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  1. Robert Hughes And The Cut Apart Policeman

    Mr. Gordon, Robin Unger's modification of the Lee Harvey Oswald passport and our conversation about it has disappeared from: Lee Harvey Oswald's passport photo real or not? I will not participate in a rigged game. Remove my membership from this forum.
  2. Robert Hughes And The Cut Apart Policeman

    Michael, More like a Ron White skit. Cheers,
  3. Robert Hughes And The Cut Apart Policeman

    Hi David, I'm really glad I haven't heard from you in awhile, months. Have you been saving up your venom and spite? I can see the Mary Moorman notion is still bothering you. You must have seen my ideas as really bothersome. Cointelpro agent? I can see whose losing control here. Do you really think there are such people on this site? What's to learn about a faked frame such as the one in my last post. You guys whip out camera angles and focus like a six-shooter when someone doesn't agree with you. Or, you see something that is threatening to your position. Go talk to Robin Unger about "FAKE" composites? your really have just fallen off the banana-boat, haven't you... ". Maybe you can start helping him warp and distort things that I post. Oh, you have already done that. The moderators are not powerless. They can shut me down at anytime they choose for any reason and I won't complain. You and Unger prove the "fake composite" charges to them. Your an old hand here. Report it. And, while your at it report yourself for breaking the forum rules. I've decided not to do that anymore. People need to read posts such as yours so that they can clearly see what type of person you are Your gush of vituperative invective is something I dealt with many times with middle school children. They grow out of it. Seems you haven't.
  4. Robert Hughes And The Cut Apart Policeman

    A Modern Conspiracy? I have already addressed this issue once. However, it needs to be touched upon again. Robin Unger Super Member Members 3,557 posts Gender:Male Location:Australia Posted Saturday at 02:07 PM (edited) · Report post John Butler Why are you using FAKE composites and trying to pass them of as a single frame This is obviously a composite of two separate frames, you can see the line across the image where the two frames have been joined. The Cut Apart Policeman comes from Robert Groden’s Assassination Films DVD, 1995. I picked up this copy when I visited Dealey Plaza in July, 2015. Groden signed the copy and then became surly and uncommunicative after some of my remarks concerning the authenticity of Zapruder. I could not find the frame I used in other film versions. I looked for it in the YouTube film Robert Hughes and I couldn’t find it there or Ungers version. I hope that’s just a case of not being able to find it. Here is another copy of the frame from Groden taken with different DVD software. I trust Groden's film even though the tech is old and the film viewing is not the best. But, I do believe it is accurate and above board. The NFV in the corner of every frame is for New Frontier Video. I guess that’s Groden’s trademark? I hope this eases Unger’s blood pressure so his head doesn’t explode from false outrage. lolff
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    From the Muchmore gifs that keep on giving Both of these men are from the Marie Muchmore film. There is a big difference in their film appearance. This should have been posted in another topic but, we are dealing with oddities in this post. Someone claimed Willis' see through nature shown above is just motion blurring. The man on the right can be considered motion blurring to some extant. Willis is a different problem because you can add to the see through nature the straight, flat head which indicates a cutout. He is an inserted object here.
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    From the Muchmore gifs that keep on giving Phillip Willis taking slide 3: The next is self-explanatory:
  7. Robert Hughes And The Cut Apart Policeman

    John Martin And The Transparent Policeman or See Through Police Helmet Motion blurring? Film failure? Technical Difficulty? Static? Something hidden?
  8. Robert Hughes And The Cut Apart Policeman

    Thanks Chris, There seems to be only one policeman on the corner. I would really like to have all the frames of that bit of Hughes. No big yellow stripes. No sgt.?
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    Some one said "The construction site you mention is pretty far down from the plaza. The best way to look at it is with this 3D image of the plaza. How could someone way down past the building be able to fire and hit the limo from that position? It's not possible." I was at the National Rifle Matches at Camp Perry, Ohio in the summer of 1967. I saw lots of 10 and 12 year old girls firing 1903 Springfields and M1 Garands at 1000 yard targets. They weren't using scopes and were successful in their shooting. The buildings on North Houston appear to be far away but, they are not.
  10. Robert Hughes And The Cut Apart Policeman

    Chris, "I am fully aware that I used a frame which was not the same as the frame you used. My point is (and was) that the officer at the corner of Main and Houston was "real", and not a "cut apart policeman", and was actually DPD Sgt. Harkness. The unstated basis for your claim that "my" frame was an edit and yours was not is, to say the very least, difficult to understand." Go back and read my post. I said both frames are edited, one successfully and one not. You show in your post Sgt. Harkness with his big yellow sergeant's stripes. Where are they in the frame I posted. Were there two policemen there? Thanks Chris, I appreciate your final comments.
  11. Robert Hughes And The Cut Apart Policeman

    Unger, I took the frame I used straight from Groden's DVD assassination films 1995, hence the low quality. Glad you verified that it is a composite frame. I knew we would eventually agree on something. Thanks for that wonderful graphic showing the splicing of the films. No, Robin I don't play with my material as you do. Your work is to often bent toward your bias. I haven't posted much you haven't tried to warp and distort. And, now I am accused of what you routinely do? That's what the Greeks called hubris. There appears to be two policemen on that corner. Once again it's a matter of big yellow stripes.
  12. James DiEugenio Super Member Members 2,341 posts Gender:Male Posted Wednesday at 05:32 PM · Report post Larry is exactly right about Spence. But he understates it. In my book, Reclaiming Parkland, I spend a full chapter--21 pages-- on the London phony trial and fully critique Spence's performance. Spence's big mistake was first participating in the thing, since as I show, it clearly favored the prosecution. The producer, Mark Redhead, favored Bugliosi. I mean, Sylvia Odio is not there? Give me a break. Bugliosi was allowed to use the NAA? I mean even back then there had been questions about it. The prosecution called twice as many witnesses as the defense. Plus Bugliosi was allowed to drag in the Tippit shooting? I mean, then why not have Spence bring in the murder of Oswald and how his client was murdered with the cooperation of the Dallas police? When VB was on his book tour, he mentioned how Spence had studied the case for six months with help from a couple of assitants in his law office. What a joke. That is about as bad as Posner's two years. This case is not able to be even partly digested in five years. And no one can master it in even ten years. It is simply beyond the reach of any one person since it demands expertise in too many disciplines. Spence thought he could get by with his country demeanor and eloquence. But he didn't fully understand the circumstances. With what we have today, after the ARRB, there is no way any prepared attorney could lose this case. I agree with Mr. DiEugenio. Spence's script would not and did not allow him to win. He could have been talking about quick draws in a Wyoming court and it would not have mattered to the outcome. The outcome was preordained.
  13. Robert Hughes And The Cut Apart Policeman

    Sorry Ray, Far too often I get snarky when I shouldn't. I have explained to you as much as the material warrants. To me, Kennedy's expression looks like one of distress. Pain. Coupled with what could be a bullet hole in the windshield gives rise to suspicion that something might be amiss. This is something that is totally at odds with any other thing in the visual record. As an oddity, it should be explored. But, then again the visual record is filled with peculiarities.
  14. Robert Hughes And The Cut Apart Policeman

    Brad, I always thought prayerman held a camera in his hand.
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