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  1. Chris, Here is an interesting notion. Could the guy standing on the truck bed or vehicle see almost everything in Dealey Plaza, Elm Street, Triple Underpass, and Stemmons Freeway. Including McIntyre, the photog who took MC 3, and the guys shown in MC 3, could they be spotters/controllers/filmers. Could the assassination crew be like the Nazis and want a complete record? It looks like from that elevated position that might be possible, particularly with binoculars or telephoto lens. They had cameras Across the street Al Volkland is alleged to have taken this photo. Info from Pi
  2. Chris, I finally got google earth to show Continental Avenue. As soon as I am back wth my computer rather than this Ipad I will post the correct view. Thanks for that. I am not to concerned with strict accuracy. I will use the north face of the TSBD for the origin.
  3. Chris, Thanks again. I'll do that but will not be able to reply for the next couple of days. Graphics look good. Are you suggesting that the 3 cars in the last left hand graphic are the cars seen by Bell and Bond? I thought of Nix and Muchmore, but forgot to check them out. "The image in your last post that shows the line of sight back to the Stemmons & continental Ave lands a couple blocks short of Continental ave. Continental is the next major street North." I thought that might be the case but was looking for a spot the photographer could be at on the other side
  4. Timing of the train photos and frames There are 8 photos and film frames that show trains that are of interest in determining information about trains around the Dealey Plaza area. These are trains that are on the railroad lines that run across the Triple Underpass into the railroad yards and the Stemmons Overpass railroad line. The first to consider is the Wilma Bond photo 8. Wilma Bond was first at the Main and Houston intersection to watch the motorcade. After the p. limo passed through, she walked over into the grassy area between Main and Elm approximately in front of the Gra
  5. Chris, Thanks for making a comment on my work. i was hoping someone would. During the making that presentation, I continually had a nagging thought something was not quite right. This nagging thought had to do with perspective, distance, speed, and time. Basically, was there enough time to get a long, slow freight off the Triple Underpass and into the railroad yards? More on this later. When I read your comment I did not at first grasp what you were saying. It was a case of Huh? What? Why that? So, I had to look at MC 2 and what I had been calling MC3 to see if I could s
  6. Adam, Thanks for your comment. That is Officer J. C. White. From where he was standing he would not be able to see anything concerning the assassination, hear perhaps. It doesn't matter whether there was a train on the tracks or not. The Triple Underpass is 120 feet wide. From that position he would not be able to see anything in Dealey Plaza. As far as hearing goes if there was not a train blocking hearing would he have heard firecracker sounds or gunshots. Maybe or maybe not. From ground level on either side of the Triple Underpass one may not be able to see a train in the cen
  7. Ghost Train of Dealey Plaza- The Elusive, Non-existent Train Hidden in Plain Sight In order to see if there was any trains or train cars on the Triple Underpass, the Stemmons Railroad Overpass line, or in the rail yards one needs to re-examine the photos concerning trains that afternoon. Once again there are a lot of photos to look at and analyze. It is wordy if you believe a picture is worth 10,000 words. First off, there is no visual evidence for any train or cars on the Triple Underpass. None. There may be reasons for that and will be discussed later. There is evidence fo
  8. Evidence for a train/no train in Dealey Plaza at the time of the assassination: 1. There is no visual evidence for a train on the Triple Underpass at the time of the assassination. There is visual evidence that there was a train or parts of a train on the Stemmons Railroad Overpass at the time of the assassination or directly within minutes afterwards. There is evidence for a train in the railroad yards directly after the assassination. 2. There is visual evidence, the Allen photo, that appears to show there were passenger cars at the west end of the TSBD/railroad parking l
  9. This may help what Chris is pointing out. This mapping of mine differs from what Adam Johnson says in this quote. Contrary to Bell and Altgens there is other media that says that Foster and the railroad men were not above Elm Street and others above Main Street. From another thread: Altgens 7 and Bell show Officer J. W. Foster and about 10 railroad men on the bridge when the p. limo approaches and is about to go under the bridge. These are fraudulent photos and frames. Why? Preponderance of the Evidence. There are 8 other films and photos that show no one was on the
  10. Conclusions About The Hole Through The P. Limo’s Windshield Here I have to make apologies to Jim Phelps for extending this topic beyond his original interest and intent. I contend there may have been at shot from a train car behind the South Knoll that could be responsible for the through hole in the windshield. This shot would take place at a Z 160 frame location of the p. limo. And, for linking this shot to a supposedly non-existent train in Dealey Plaza and going somewhat off topic pursuing the evidence for this train. Conclusions: It is possible that the through bullet hole
  11. Chris, You make several good points. But, I differ on interpretation. Some people may have problems with a perspective distance and the size of objects. However, others may not particularly if they have experience in judging color, perspective, size, and distance. I think that an object of the same relative (boxcars on Stemmons overpass) height as another (passenger cars on the Pergola spur) viewed from 100 yards away would make a considerable size difference. Officer Earle Brown was on the Stemmons Overpass and judged the distance to the railroad yards as 100 yards or 300 feet. Al
  12. Chris, This is an interesting letter. The word horniation was a stumper until I figured out the word in herniation. The temporal region is around the ear. Going back toward the occipital is a line that that is fairly flat without much rise. According to Jenkins description this was a wound without much rise/descent. I marked a line centered through the two bones. The line crosses the Parietal Bone something like this. If the line was higher more of the Parietal Bone would be engaged. I also put an X where there was supposed to be another wound at the hairline in the fro
  13. Chris, Thanks for your persistence in getting me to see the correct view of things. Thanks. Lots of photos and frames to look at here. This is a lot to analyze. I suppose I went wrong with this overhead of Dealey Plaza. There are no signal towers on the Stemmons Freeway Railroad Overpass in this photo. Old school saying “learn it wrong, stays wrong”. OTOH, there is no signal towers on the main tracks. This is misleading or is it when looking at this. I’ll explain that in a moment: The overpass signal towers appear to be 120 feet or more behind the Pergola s
  14. Richard, Thanks for the concern. I think you have misunderstood what I have said. In Earle Browns' shortened testimony I have the same things you have. There is no disagreement. I went through all of the testimonies of the policemen involved in complete detail. I have their complete testimonies stored. I shortened their testimonies to what I considered the relevant information for the points I was making. I shortened the policemen's testimony because folks tend not to read long statements. I tried to keep this presentation as short as possible for that reason. T
  15. Perhaps a better way to look at this train/no train situation is to re-examine what the Dallas Police Officers involved said. They would be probably be accounted as expert witnesses in court. There were 5 policemen, as far as I know, that made statements on what happened in and near the railroad yards concerning trains. These are: 1. Sargent D. V. Harkness 2. Officer Earle Brown 3. Officer James Lomax 4. Officer J. W. Foster 5. Officer J. C. White First off, is the easiest to discuss Officer James Lomax. Staff interview of James A. Lomax, N
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