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  1. On ‎10‎/‎15‎/‎2019 at 8:07 PM, John Butler said: "Trump is a traitor and he's going down." In the last 3 years, I have seen nothing in these madcap, fake MSM / Democrat scenarios that would indicate Donald Trump is a traitor or a criminal." Trump withheld military aid to Ukraine in return for a favor -- blame Ukrainians for the 2016 election meddling, and launch phony investigations into Joe Biden and his son. It's a crime to solicit foreign influence in an American election. Has Donald Trump been indicted for a crime? Has he been tried in court? Has he been found guilty of being a traitor or a criminal by a court? Has the House of Representatives brought impeachment articles? Has the Senate tried those imaginary impeachment articles? Has he been removed by the Senate? Until these conditions are met all is sound and fury offering spite and invective and little else.
  2. Jim, In your recent post you said: "In the 1990s, John A. examined at the National Archives “photographs taken by Harvey Oswald of aircraft, troops and bunkers in Taiwan [which] were found by the Dallas Police among his possessions and are now in the National Archives.” " Did Mr. Armstrong make a copy of the National Archive photos mentioned, and if so, could you maybe take the time and post those if you can obtain copies. One of the things that frustrates me to no end is the mixing of Michael Paine's Army photos and vacation photos into the Oswald photos in the Paine garage. I made what I thought was a huge error on these photos, but going back and looking at the situation further the error may not have big as I thought. A lot of these photos are like this one from Jack Swike: This appears to be an Army compound rather than Marine. Marine Corps personnel were not required to blouse their boots until 2003. These are more than likely Army personnel and not Marines. This might be a photo of Marines on the USS Bexar. I believe this is an Oswald photo and if not the Bexar then some other Naval transport on one of his sea voyages. Notice that their boots are unbloused. This is how Marines looked during that period. I see the same kind of thing in the 201 file photos. Michael Paine was in the combat artillery. In those photos allegedly Paine's I didn't find any involving artillery. And, no aircraft photos that could not be explained by being in Japan or Korea rather than Taiwan. Don't get me wrong on this, I'm not challenging the idea that Harvey Oswald was in Taiwan. There is way to much evidence saying so and as far as I can see the notion of Harvey Oswald not being in Taiwan is not worth the time debating it. What I am doing is trying to get a sense of whose photos, Paine's or Oswald's, are the military ones in the Oswald 201 file photos. I used Swike's photo above because he is one who simply denies that Oswald was in Taiwan or at Iwakuni. In his One Oswald Theory he simply ignores any evidence not found at Atsugi, Japan concerning Oswald. Or, others meld the Taiwan information into Atsugi information to a single timeline of Lee Harvey Oswald in their One Oswald Theories. I'm not impressed by that type of reasoning.
  3. Mark, I agree the figures down the walk do look smaller that they should if that is Bell. Those figures should be closer to Bronson than those figures north of Elm St. But, they look smaller. It could be some sort of camera distortion thing and an illusion. I guess one could count the sections in the structure. It is a shame that no one on the north side of Elm filmed except Zapruder. Or, was allowed to or keep their film.
  4. It seems like I typed the wrong info on that last post: "However, the same or similar scar can be seen on the right volar side of the wrist in this photo. And, this is the problem. There is no such scar described for the right wrist. What is described for the left wrist is the following. Which appears to be a suicide scar also. Why two on one arm?" "Left wrist" should have been left arm. Substitute left arm for left wrist and the sentence makes more sense. The autopsy describes the suicide scar on Oswald's left wrist. The photo of Oswald shows there is another scar on his right wrist that matches the left wrist in description. This scar is not described in the autopsy report. The second left arm scar is described as written above: “Over the medial aspect mid-distal third of the left arm there is a 1 1 / 4 inch vertical scar with cross hatching.” This scar lines up with the medial vein in the lower arm. Sometimes those who are pretending suicide will cut this vein in that fashion in order not to mess up the tendons in their wrist. I mention these scars because I have no real explanation for them other than noting them. The vertical cut scar on the left arm could be from some other thing. But, it is hard to rationalize the cross hatching scars and the vertical scar as anything but a suicide scar from deliberate cutting. The visible scar on Oswald's right wrist could be from some other thing and not possibly related to suicide. But, it is a neat scar cut in a regular manner. Here's something from the internet on suicide and handedness: "Suicide attempts (94.5%) involved the nondominant hand, whereas in accidents, handedness had no effect on injured side, similar to previous findings.%8,,%13 The preponderance of injuries to the nondominant hand in suicide attempts might be due to habitual usage of the dominant hand when using a tool such as a knife, leaving the unoccupied nondominant hand as potential target for cutting. " I've read Coogan before and was not that impressed with his reasoning. I have Swike's book. And, ditto. I was not impressed with his reasoning for a One Oswald theory.
  5. From Wikipedia: The Japanese government bought a large portion of what is today MCAS Iwakuni in 1938, with the view of establishing a naval air station. They commissioned the new base 8 July 1940. When World War II started, the Iwakuni air station was used as a training and defense base. The station housed 96 trainers and 150 Zero fighter planes on the airstrip. In September 1943, a branch of the Etajima Naval Academy was established here, with approximately 1,000 cadets undergoing training in the Basic, Junior and Senior Officer's schools at any one time. American B-29's bombed Iwakuni in May and August 1945, concentrating on the oil refinery and Rail Transport Office or train station areas. The last air raid took place just a day before the war was brought to a close. The first allies to reach Iwakuni at the war's end were a group of U.S. Marines who had signed papers ending the conflict for the Japanese air base. After the end of World War II, various military forces from the United States, Britain, Australia, and New Zealand occupied the base and it was repaired by No. 5 Airfield Construction Squadron RAAF. It was designated a Royal Australian Air Force Base in 1948. The Americans first occupied the base in 1950 to use it as a springboard for aircraft heading to the Korean War. In 1952, the base officially became a United States military base.[6] Iwakuni had scheduled international service by private airlines from 1952 to 1964, during which time it had the IATA airport code IWJ. This code was later reassigned to Iwami Airport in neighboring Shimane Prefecture.[ Roughly the same information from the internet: The first allies to reach Iwakuni at the war's end were a group of U.S. Marines who had signed papers ending the conflict for the Japanese air base. After the end of World War II, various military forces from the United States, Britain, Australia, and New Zealand occupied the base. It was designated a Royal Australian Air Force Base in 1948. When the Korean Conflict started in 1950, units from the Royal Navy and U.S. Air Force arrived at Iwakuni as U.N. forces. Jets flew daily to support front-line troops in Korea, returning each evening to refuel and rearm. The troop processing center located here throughout the war earned Iwakuni the title “Gateway to Korea.” The U.S. Air Force took command of the station April 1, 1952. During its period of command, the Air Force did much to improve the base's facilities. The U.S. Navy took over the station October 1, 1954. Naval Air Station Iwakuni was greatly enlarged in July 1956 when the 1st MAW moved its headquarters here from Korea. A whole new area was procured on the North side of the station to make room for approximately 2,500 incoming Marines. The Marine Corps first took control of the installation as Marine Corps Air Facility Iwakuni in 1958. The station, which is just over 1,300 acres, was officially designated as MCAS Iwakuni in 1962. Its mission includes support of operations, maintenance and supply of tenant units and ships. … This is general information from the internet on the Marine Corps Air Station at Iwakuni. The bold information might suggest that Harvey Oswald was there only as a passing through GI awaiting assignment to somewhere else. If this speculation is true then he would have been there for only a short period of time as the Corps figured out what to do with a Marine that who allegedly had a psychotic episode in Taiwan. Or, that is what folks are supposed to think. Crossfire by Jim Marrs has good information about Oswald and Iwakuni. I am swinging between Harvey first or Lee first in Russia. Harvey has the suicide marks that relate to the suicide incident in Russia. Who knows about Lee’s suicide scars. Lee was the one who received most of the military secret training and visits to secret military bases which would make one think that Lee was first in Russia. Lee didn’t know Russian and would fool the Russians easier as a defector. As far as I know Harvey was never at Atsugi. But, because of the scars Harvey is the most likely candidate. From the autopsy report: "Over the volar aspect of aspect of the left wrist there is a transverse 1 3 / 4 inch slightly raised white scar. Volar means palm side of the wrist and is not visible in the photo." However, the same or similar scar can be seen on the right volar side of the wrist in this photo. And, this is the problem. There is no such scar described for the right wrist. What is described for the left wrist is the following. Which appears to be a suicide scar also. Why two on one arm? “Over the medial aspect mid-distal third of the left arm there is a 1 1 / 4 inch vertical scar with cross hatching.” Medial aspect means the center or middle part. The mid-distal third of the left arm means the middle of the lower part of the arm. Up from the wrist and down from the elbow. This is the area of the medial forelimb vein found generally only in humans. It is the site of suicide attempts trying to cut this vein in a vertical fashion. And, then horizontally to make sure this vein is cut.
  6. "Trump is a traitor and he's going down." In the last 3 years, I have seen nothing in these madcap, fake MSM / Democrat scenarios that would indicate Donald Trump is a traitor or a criminal.
  7. Should someone go over to the Parker site and then post some of his so-called debunkings. Wait, isn't Parker banned from this site? Could any of his materials be posted here?
  8. Steve Thomas reposted this, This helps with my work on a timeline of military events of the two Oswalds. It helps with the period of time when Lee Oswald returned from the Japan to the US. November 15, 1958: Lee Oswald arrives in San Francisco. November 19, 1958: Lee takes 30 days leave. Note: The entries listed above indicate that Lee Oswald was at this transfer unit for about 4 days. This information is not accurate enough to determine where Lee Oswald was during this period, 16 November, 1958 to 21 December, 1958. December, 1958, pre-Dec. 22: Harvey and Lee mentioned Lee Oswald was assigned for a short period of time in December, 1958 to Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada, Area 2 (Lake Meade Marine base north of Las Vegas). Lake Mead Base was a storage and transfer area for nuclear weapons which were tested at the Nevada Test Site. This information would have been valuable to the Soviets. And, there were other Nellis complexes were in the area. This may have been for just a couple of days before Dec. 22, 1958 when he returned to the El Toro base. Or, it could have been longer depending on how he spent his leave. The question here might be how was he ordered to report to the Nellis Base, Area 2. Note: Nellis Air Force Base: For the nearby Nellis Air Force Gunnery and Bombing Range named by 18 December 1950, see Nevada Test and Training Range. Area 51 is part of the Nellis complex and Lee Oswald could have learned detailed information on the U2 there where it was tested. Perhaps things that the ordinary Marine radar operator would not know. In light of the following in January of the next year, Lee Oswald may have been prepped for this journey to Russia with bargaining chips about the U2 and more detailed information on early warning radar systems. Atomic information from Nuclear Testing was also done during this time at the Yucca Flats Atomic Test Range. Also, the following year he visits Vincent Air Force Base in Yuma, AZ, an important Marine radar base. It was used by the Air Defense Command as a surveillance radar station. And, then there was the A-12 being tested at that time when Lee Oswald was at Nellis. These trips to different bases may have been the icing on the cake that got Oswald into the Soviet Union. During this time 16 November to Dec. 22, 1958, Harvey Oswald is at the Santa Ana Marine Corps base and not on leave. Why things are underlined here and throughout I don't know. I can't remove the underlining.
  9. These two frames sure look like they were taken across the grass from Main Street. But, when you access a map of the area then you will see that it is possible for Bell to jump down from his perch and move forward towards the grass, but still stay within the structure. His location in the structure would keep him from being seen in the Bronson film. He might be one of the indistinct folks seem at the extreme left (photo right) center of the film frame. I still have a hard time seeing this angle, but will take your word as correct. This is a Skaggs photo. Bell is shown in a white shirt and a man standing near him has on a dark suit. In the Bronson frame we might see a man in a dark suit and someone in a white shirt. Could be Bell. It's fairly rough. But, there are two or more people there. One could be the dark suit guy as seen in Skaggs. Probably Bell had the same idea as him or vice versa. It's too rough to say for sure, but is it suggestive.
  10. Mark, FWIW, if you watch the Robert Hughes film you will see that there are plenty of Dallas Policemen directing traffic near the intersection of Main and Houston. I would say the Pilot Car arrived at the intersection when traffic was still moving there. And, by the time the motorbikes arrived traffic had been stopped and cleared in that area. Muchmore shows a person walking across the intersection before the motocade arrives there. We don't see the 3 Advance Motorcycles there. What is seen is the 5 Lead Motorcycles. They take the turn in an approved procedural fashion with 3 motobikes first followed by two motorbikes.
  11. The USS Skagit has a very interesting history. I have speculated that Harvey Oswald left Taiwan by plane for Japan on Oct. 5., 1958. The information that is provided by Jim Hargrove says that the USS Skagit left for Subic Bay in the Philippines on Oct. 5, 1958. This strengthens my speculation somewhat. However, there could have been other Naval transport available, but the time interval suggests air travel. Supposedly, Harvey reaches Iwakuni, Japan by Oct. 6, 1958. That is 400 miles from Lee Oswald at Atsugi, Japan and I believe 1500 miles from Taiwan. Harvey Oswald was never at the secret military base Atsugi, Japan. There is no record that he was. He was not there at Iwakuni very long. Depending how he went back to the US , he could have stayed at Iwakuni, Japan for a little over a week. It is about a 2 week trip from Japan to the US by Naval transport. This raises the question why was he sent there? Why was he there for a short period of time? The time period could be just a little over a week to about 3 / 4 quarters of a month depending on travel time. Was meeting the "round-eyed" girl at Iwakuni more important than most people think? If Harvey left Iwakuni, Japan at the end of the month of October, 1958, an air trip would have taken about 10 hours to cover the distance between Iwakuni, Japan and San Francisco, CA. By air the shortest route is over 5,000 miles long. Harvey is in California on October 29, 1958. Lee Oswald is still in Japan at this point in time. It is one of many "smoking gun" issues of Harvey and Lee's saga. A big one.
  12. Thanks again for replying Mr. Parnell, I am not sure "Further discussion on this subject is pointless." But, you are right there's not much more to say. I brought this up because I found what I thought there was a confusing and ambiguous reference to the rank of Lee Oswald in the fall of 1956. I am not arguing that the Harvey and Lee folks are wrong, far from it. What I am saying is that particular bit of info needs clarifying. The information about Landesberg and Oswald at Camp LeJeune in the summer of 1956 might help clear that up.
  13. I had a look at the new timeline. It doesn't seem much different from the old. There are a few more details, but Lee Oswald at Atsugi, Japan is still ignored. Physical evidence, real documentation, shows that Harvey is on the USS Skagit, in Taiwan, and at Iwakuni, Japan at the same times that Lee Oswald is at Atsugi, Japan. Jim Hargrove has posted that material several times which you One Oswald folks ignore.
  14. The Invisible Ping Tung Teenager and his visible alter ego the Atsugi Kid. Or, sometimes it’s the other way around. Jim Hargrove wrote in his recent thread, “One Oswald departed for Taiwan aboard the USS Skagit on Sept. 14, 1958 and was stationed in Ping Tung, Taiwan on Oct. 6, 1958, at the very same time the other Oswald was being treated for venereal disease at Atsugi, Japan, nearly 1500 miles away.” Actually, Lee Oswald had a urine track infection misdiagnosed as a VD. This was a common occurrence with that particular virus found around US military installations in both Korea and Japan. It was treatable only with sulfa drugs such as Pyridium and another, Furadantin. In the mid-1960s in Korea, the first thing you were told by the medical people on arrival is “Do Not Drink The Water” and “Do Not Eat the Food”, locally. You will regret it. And that aside, aside, let’s return to the Invisible Ping Tung Teenager. Either Harvey Oswsald is visible or invisible depending on the author supporting what I will call the One Oswald Theory. I will use W. Tracy Parnell’s Oswald timeline and Jack R. Swike’s book The Missing Chapter: Lee Harvey Oswald In The Far East. W. Tracy Parnell shows Oswald’s service in Taiwan as such in Interactive Timeline of the Life of Lee Harvey Oswald: "September 14, 1958: LHO and his unit sail for the South China Sea. September, 1958: LHO's unit arrives in Taiwan, where he suffers a nervous breakdown and is sent back to Japan. October 5, 1958: LHO arrives in Atsugi.” This is a fine example of how the One Oswald Theory works. Simply ignore what is going on elsewhere. If you put an Oswald in Taiwan then ignore the one at Atsugi. The October 5, 1958 example changes Iwakuni to Atsugi. Just change what you need to change. Harvey Oswald was assigned to another Marine Japanese base, Iwakuni, for a short period of time after he left Ping Tung, Taiwan. Parnell ignores this entirely. On the other hand Jack R. Swike does the opposite in his One Oswald theory. He denies there was an Oswald at Taiwan or later at Iwakuni. He ignores any information not related to Lee Oswald at Atsugi, Japan. You can work the One Oswald Theory either way. The important thing is to ignore information else where on a different Oswald.
  15. No problem Mark, It is my impression that the first car of the motorcade turned off on Market Street you can see the car broadside in the turn. The white Pilot car is see earlier in the film further down Main. I believe, if my memory is correct, that the white Pilot Car is seen in the Muchmore film turning onto Main St. later. As far as I know that particular car is seen only in those films. And, from Muchmore:
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