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  1. Witten's report on Oswald in Mexico just released

    All US government employes have a 201 file. The personnel office that hires you starts a 201 file on you that contains all your personal info, your medical plan selection, life insurance selected by you, references, police record, your awards, promotion citations, performance ratings etc, etc, etc. It's just a file that contains all the info on you during the time you work for the government agency. When you retire or leave the file is sent to St Louis where it is stored forever. If the CIA did not destroy it, Oswald's 201 file is probably stored in the St. Louis facility. So since Oswald had a CIA 201 file, it can only mean that he worked for the CIA. How many times do I have to inform you. A 201 file is not a spy file, it's a personnel file.
  2. Witten's report on Oswald in Mexico just released

    There was no love lost between the CIA and FBI also. Hoover wouldn't support the CIA on Mexico City in the beginning but quickly fell into line when info surfaced that Oswald worked for the FBI.
  3. Oswald mock trial drop box of CLE course materials

    Jim You are correct. Weiss-Aschkenasy should have testified. They used simple graphical methods (no computer, no oscillascope, no complicated statistics and no one critical of their work that I know about). They did use statistics to determine and eliminate background noise but it was simple statistics. However they piggy backed off of BBN's work, using microphone 4 as the starting point of their work. BBN said mic 4 correlated to the grassy knoll shot and W-A was hired to check the location and accuracy of mic 4. So BBN had to be there also.
  4. Oswald mock trial drop box of CLE course materials

    Cliff I can't argue with you. You're right. Simplicity was the way to go. They felt the acoustics would help and once they made the decision to go with the acoustics they had to have someone there who could answer defense questions about cross talk, how the recorder functioned, the lag or delay time enherent in the recorder and rebut the critics. Don knows the ins and outs of this issue so he had to be there. In writing his book, "Hear No Evil", Don worked very closely with BBN and W-A.He undoubtedly learned quite a bit about the issue from the experts. You might say he went to school. That is why a scientist who is not a physics major knows so much about sound and it's properties.
  5. Oswald mock trial drop box of CLE course materials

    Got to give them credit for having Don Thomas as a presenter for the acoustics analysis. They had the right guy ... he is by far the premier advocate for the acoustics analysis. The opposition has no one who can match the knowledge that Thomas has on the subject. The science behind the analysis is not difficult to understand. The complicated part is the explanation that Thomas provides that rebuts his critics. Suffice to say he does rebut all criticism of the work of BBN and Weiss-Aschkenasy, the experts who did the acoustics analysis. BBN said there is a 50% chance that a second shooter fired a shot from the grassy knoll. Weiss-Aschkenasy said there was a 95% chance that a shot came from the grassy knoll. Weiss and Aschkenasy are the guys who write the computer programs for the sonar navigation system employed on Navy subs. These guys know their stuff. Weiss and Aschkenasy only verified the shot from the grassy knoll. BBN said there were 5 shots, eliminating the first shot, the misfire, since it did not meet it's criteria. Why Weiss and Aschkenasy did not verify all five shots, IDK. Possibly not enough funding ???????? Ninety five percent is darn near perfection. That kind of accuracy means there was definitely a shot from the grassy knoll. And that's probably why the acoustics analysis was included in the trial. But Thomas may have lost the jury in the fog of the explanation.
  6. Witten's report on Oswald in Mexico just released

    Brendan We all we know the CIA always has a back up plan in case the original plan goes south on them. They also have a cover-up plan that is to be implemented as soon as the dirty deed is complete (dirty deed = covert operation). So if the CIA alters documents sent to the US and the country which sends the documents to the US starts to squak about the CIA altering documents the CIA is ready to start their cover-up plan asap. 1. National newspapers like the Wash Post and the New York Times would order their reporters to write articles favoring the CIA position on the documents and criticizing the country which sent the documents as commies, fascist, violators of human rights or rogue. Dispicable and disparaging articles about the country. This is done to influence the american people and place the country in a negative light. 2. A full court press by the CIA would be placed on European governments, government officials, newspapers, and economic leaders friendly to the US. The newspapers would be encouraged to write articles favoring the US and the CIA and articles saying the accusing country supports terrorism. Newspapers reluctant to fall in line would be enticed with money. Enough money and they eventually fall in line. 3. Countries within our region would be encouraged to isolate the accusing country. Don't trade with the accusing country and have as little diplomatic activity with them as possible. Eventually economic sanctions would be placed on the accusing country if need be. The little accusing country could fight back but it would be no match for the CIA fueled by millions of US tax payer dollars and energized by overwhelming numbers against them. In the end it wouldn't do any good for a small country to fight back because they would waste what little resources they have on a losing battle.
  7. Witten's report on Oswald in Mexico just released

    Brendan What about the chutzpah to wipe out the president? If they had the chutzpah to blow a hole in Kennedy's head don't you think forging documents is nothing to the CIA? You are entitled to your opinion and I respect it. Thanks for the polite discussion.
  8. Witten's report on Oswald in Mexico just released

    Brendan I believe Mrs Baker is refering to approval by the Russian embassy for a visa to Russia. Technically that would allow an intransit visa to Cuba. To say that is ludicrous does not reflect on Mrs Baker but it does reflect on your prejudice toward Mrs Baker. All the facts surrounding this issue are unknown so how can we condemn Mrs Baker? One of the theories that make the rounds in the MSM every now and then is Castro killed Kennedy in revenge for Kennedy's attempts to kill Castro. Or Castro used Oswald to kill Kennedy because Kennedy was trying to kill him. Eventhough Castro would not want to see Kennedy removed from office I would think Castro would still distance himself from Oswald. Granting Oswald a visa to Cuba would not be a distancing measure. And because all the facts have not come to light, we cannot preclude the possibility of CIA alteration of Cuban documents. It was you who said we should not preclude the possibility of Oswald to MC, so therefore I ask the same consideration with regard to CIA alteration of Cuban documents.
  9. Witten's report on Oswald in Mexico just released

    Brendan The Cuban government never denied Oswald's visa. The decision to approve or disapprove Oswald's in transit visa to Cuba was in the hands of the Russian government. So Castro did not need to cover his tracks, they were covered by CE 2564. It's "no skin off Castro nose" if the US government decides to alter documents sent by the Cuban government to the US government on the Kennedy assassination. Why would it be important to the Cuban government whose photo is on Oswald's application? If push comes to shove Castro can always fall back on CE 2564. Therefore your question to David Jacobs re Why would the Cuban government accept CIA alteration of evidence from the Cuban government has been answered. In this case, it really doesn't matter.
  10. Witten's report on Oswald in Mexico just released

    Brendan Consider the following, pg 502 "Me and Lee" Judyth Vary Baker ... "It should be noted that Lee never mentioned going to Cuba again, despite his supposed obsession with the subject. His Cuban transit visa was actually approved less than a month later, which was almost record time, but he ignored it." She doesn't say how LHO found out about the approval. It's possible the Cuban consulate in MC mailed the approval to Oswald's address in NO and the NO post office forwarding his mail to Ruth Paine's house. ?????????? You indicate in a post on page 8 that his application was denied on 10/15 by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. It was "denied" before the assassination which I think is important. So here we have one researcher (she still is a researcher aside from all the other stuff) presenting different information than presented by another researcher, you of course. Note that the time, less than a month, is about the same as the date of the denial of the visa, less than a month after his alleged visit to MC. Maybe there is some truth to her claim. Do we believe Judyth or the Cuban government? Just for argument's sake let's say we believe Judyth. Is it possible the Cuban government played ball with the CIA so that they get to change the approval to denial and the CIA gets to do whatever they want with Oswald's visa application? The denial of the visa appears to support the Cuban position on not working with Oswald to kill Kennedy. There may be some validity to my theory.
  11. Witten's report on Oswald in Mexico just released

    David I worked for the US government where my job required travel to foreign countries. During that time I had to renew my US passport three times. I currently live in a foreign country and I've had to renew my passport twice. Five times total. So I write from experience. There is/was always a shop either across the street from or within one or two blocks of the US consulate where one could have copies made and passport photos developed while you wait. I never had to come back later for my passport photos ... they were turned over to me usually within an hour. I would get 6 photos duplicate. All the same size (the consulates have strict requirements on size of photos) and all the exact same photo. Workers at the consulate will tell you where you can get passport photos because certain shops know the dimensions required. Since Lopez and Hardman didn't find a shop that Oswald had to have used for his photos (shop close proximity to the consulate) I'm sure Oswald's passport photos were not developed in Mexico City. I think it's common knowledge that Oswald was given a new passport in the US before his alledged trip to Mexico City. He would have had to have passport photos made wherever he obtained his new passport. It's possible he would use those photos developed for his new passport in Mexico City. Research required 1. Where did Oswald get his new passport? 2. Size requirements for passport photos US`passport vs Cuba passport? maybe too late but it may be fruitfull to checkout the area around the passport office where Oswald got his new passport and check the dimensions of Oswald's passport photos which apparently came back from Cuba with the passport photos found in Oswald's property.
  12. District Attorney Jim Garrison's Case For A Conspiracy

    Larry Before you shut up, please provide documentation that indicates RT is Russian propaganda. If evidence isn't documented or researched to the ultimate degree then it can't be true, or it shouldn't be believed. That's your belief. To a certain extent I understand your logic. So if there exists documentation that proves RT is a Russian propaganda tool it can be provided by you easily I'm sure. Thanks in advance.
  13. David I forgot to add to my post above. By setting the record straight you blow up the lone nut theory. Maybe that leads to another investigation.
  14. David Yes you need to write a book to set the record straight. History implores you. I can help but I'll need a budget.
  15. The Dual Life of Albert Osborne

    David You're right there's a disconnect with our posts. The point of my post is that the CIA did not run a project in MC that involved the impersonation of Oswald. IMO, Oswald started out early from New Orleans on 26 Sept 1963, travelled all morning and then near mid-day took a bus from Houston to Laredo. In Laredo Oswald met with two individuals and all three drove to Dallas where they talked to Odio at about 8 pm at her apartment. I agree that Oswald did not travel to MC.
  16. The Dual Life of Albert Osborne

    David If the CIA did with Oswald in MC what the WC said Oswald did in MC and wanted to do, i.e., go to Cuba then onto Russia, and Oswald's MC escapade was part of a CIA plan to link him to the Russian assassin, then they do a better job than what was done. This is the basis for my post above. If the MC incident is truly a CIA project to link the Russian assassin to Oswald and the assassination of Kennedy and thus put Russia in the crosshairs of nuclear button pushers, then the impersonation of Oswald was a failure. The CIA did not need to have anyone impersonate Oswald. He was under the control of Phillips who was in MC and who could have easily ordered Oswald to MC to do what was necessary to link Russia to the assassination. Phillips had done his homework. According to Antonio Veciana, Phillips had asked him (Veciana) if a visa could be obtained fairly quickly in MC for a trip to Cuba. Veciana told Phillips it would take some time. Maybe this is why Oswald's trip to MC was called off. And that is the main reason I say the MC caper was not a CIA project.
  17. The Dual Life of Albert Osborne

    David The MC impersonation was an unprofessional job, it was poorly planned and executed. Had it been a CIA project I believe they do a better job. If it had been the CIA we would see the real Oswald outside the Cuban consulate on his way to the Russian embassy.. Even a picture of Oswald spliced exiting the consulate area on his way to the Russian embassy. Similar to the BYP. Just enough for plausible deniability. But the CIA was blindsided by the impersonation. They had no time to fake a photo or photograph Oswald. The idea of the impersonation of course is to link Oswald with a Russian assassin and the assassination of JFK. If there was a mole hunt going on it was secondary IMO.
  18. The boy is lost. I'm not surprised he attends Harvard where the truth doesn't exist and where privilege and status are what count. He doesn't realize that we can't build our country based on a lie. We can't solve the problems he mentions with a government that hides the truth from it's people. I guess he hasn't talked to his uncle (RFK's son) or more likely he doesn't care. He feels compelled to not rock the boat because that is what his article is all about.
  19. The Dual Life of Albert Osborne

    Steve Yes we seem to have hijack this thread. I have a bad habit of doing that. But before we move on I would like to piggy back onto David Joseph' s post and then I'll leave this thread. I think it's very important. This is the right time to mention it since Joseph's post leads directly to it. The fact that Oswald did not travel to MC destroys the lone nut theory and points to conspiracy taking the impersonation into account. The CIA was not involved in the impersonation because they had control of Oswald through Phillips and could have let him (Oswald) bury himself in MC. IMO, it was military intelligence who orchestrated the impersonation. This caper, the impersonation, was the beginning of an Operation Northwoods event, target Russia. In Nov/Dec 1963 the CIA was mainly interested in removing Castro, not nuking Russia.
  20. The Dual Life of Albert Osborne

    David Your contribution to the truth with regard to the JFK assassination is outstanding. Thank you.
  21. Jim It comes down to one thing and one thing only. It's very simple ... who do you believe Sylvia Odio or David Phillips and the CIA? The CIA has proven over and over again they are a bunch of liars. Allen Dulles came right out and said it. He said in so many words that if it was necessary a CIA agent would lie, even under oath. Oswald did not go to MC in the time period in question. However he was impersonated but the impersonation was not CIA sponsored.
  22. Excellent Translation of Michele Metta Permindex Docs

    Paz Does Metta know how the money transferred by Trujillo into an Italian bank was taken to the plotters of Kennedy's murder?
  23. Delay in release of records.

    Cory Thanks for the offer. Maybe someday.
  24. Delay in release of records.

    Cory You live in a different world. I could explain to you that the CIA has been out of control since Dulles became CIA director, provide evidence but it wouldn't do any good. You would continue to believe it's ok because they keep us safe. Killing foreign leaders, implementing regime change doesn't keep us safe. It just grows the list of enemies for us. Our wars of choice in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq and Afghanistan didn't and don't keep us safe. We are on the edge of nuclear war right now in Korea. We are staring at bankruptcy due in part because we keep throwing away our wealth on our wars of choice. Bankruptcy will not keep us safe. I'm not advocating revolution. What I want to see is the CIA and military subservient to our civilian leadership. As long as the US constitution is followed in this regard we will survive, continue to grow and lead the world.
  25. Delay in release of records.

    Cory Lets speak as ordinary citizens, not as lawyers or engineers or professionals. Almost all of the research community knows CIA excuses for withholding the documents are total BS. It's the same old, tired excuse. If we know it, don't you think Trump knows it also. Don't you think about 90% of the world knows it. The fourth branch of the government, the CIA/military twosome, continues to act as though they know what's best for the american people . They need to stay on top of things for the good of the country since we as citizens don't know what's good for us. That is their real justification for doing what they're doing with our documents. The CIA and military have become more and more powerfull since Kennedy was murdered. Along with the help of flag waving congressmen and senators, the CIA and military have enough money to do exactly as they please in our country and the world. If our civilian governments fails to bring these guys under control we could be in a world of hurt.
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