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  1. Here I offer my wayward opinion how I think this conspiracy started. Comments welcomed. I want to read your opinions on this. 1. Oswald went to Mexico and offered to kill JFK to the Russians and Cubans. (They declined the offer) 2. American intelligence intercepted all these messages and knew that Oswald wanted to kill JFK. 3. CIA operatives reported this information up the line. 4. The conspiracy is borne. Lansdale got wind of Oswald's plan and made plans to facilitate for Oswald to go at it as a lone wolf. 5. Landsdale recruited his assassins to support Oswald. Oswald did not know that there were other assassins involved. 6. Somebody had to pay the hitmen? 7. When Oswald noticed other shooters shooting at JFK and the governor that is when he knew he was the patsy.
  2. Rich Pope

    Prayer Man

    I hope I don't get into trouble posting another comment about Prayer Man. I had never heard of this theory until last year. I found it a fascinating idea however, when I look at the pictures of the front entrance to the TSBD, I can't tell anything because the quality is so poor. One person, I don't remember who said it was Oswald holding a cheese sandwich (apparently Oswald loved cheese sandwiches and ate them often for lunch). Another person said it was Oswald holding his camera (the Imperial Reflex). I simply can't imagine that if the President were driving by my place of business that I wouldn't be out there with a camera taking pictures. It seems like a perfectly logical thing to do as far as I'm concerned. Is anyone aware of more clear pictures that might help me see Prayer Man better so I can form an idea of what I think?
  3. Trygve V. Jensen

    Photo Collection

    After a very short googlesearch, I chose Flickr of all sites, to get some photos online. If of any interest to anyone. * Everything is taken from a 12 year old harddisk,- so many, if not all of the photos are guaranteed to be available today elsewhere, in much better resolutions. ** Have tried to sort for a few hours,- but it in itself is still terrible. *** Included one album with photos I took with my phone , of a Norwegian magazine, - published December 7th. 1963, concerning the assassination. ( My grandmother scared my mother (8 years old) - stiff, - when getting the news of JFK's death,- screaming and running back and forth between the kitchen and the livingroom. My mother says she acted like a family member had died. An example of what an impact JFK made around the world, - even up here in northern Norway, - north of the polar circle. Back then they had radio. Not sure if they had gotten a tv yet. No cellphones, no internet.) My mother's mother, - kept this magazine, and gave it to me. **** Included one album (even though it has nothing to do with the assassination) - from when LBJ, -- ridiculously enough, was scheduled to meet my father's uncle's family, on his visit to my/their hometown Bodø, - September 10th. 1963, - roughly 2 months before JFK was assassinated. My father, and his cousin (my father's uncle's daugher) explained that he actually turned down the LBJ - visit ( if it is true, - I can not prove, - but still kinda fun to think about (for me). He was traumatized in WW2, and felt it would be too much hassle,- with all the police, SS, etc. ). LBJ ended up visiting their neighbours instead. ***** Snapshots of the harddisk from the stoneage included. The Collection : https://www.flickr.com/photos/153357684@N03/albums ( Hope this one will be up longer , than the last attempt, which lasted for half a day ) .
  4. Does anyone have any photographs of Gov. John Connally's injuries during the assassination of JFK?
  5. (Perhaps the answer(s) to my questions are already within this vast collection of information already) ------- As it has been 8 years or so, since I even thought about this case, a lot of questions -- I guess -- have been answered, and many of course never will be. I did not even know that Gary Mack passed away in 2015. That was just very sad to hear. He even took of his precious time to answer quite a few questions I had -- via e-mail-correspondence, back in 2006 and 2007. Two of those, - just out of curiousity, - I wonder if any new relevant information has surfaced - even how likely it is not. --------------------------------------- February 22, 2007: **Chicago Sun-Times Sat., Nov.23, 1963 "Senator Yarborough terms it a "Deed of Horror"" Excerpt from the article in the last section: "Charles Hodges 17, a Dallas High school student said he was taking photographs of the president's car when the shooting occurred." Was it a true story?, and if so; is any of the photographs available? GM: Apparently this is a true story, although his location is unknown. I looked into this years ago and concluded that, if the story is true, he must have been on the Stemmons Freeway overpass, which is west of the triple underpass. There was a longer quote from him, or a different news story mentioned him. My memory is that he said his view was down into the car. In other words, he was above. Well, the only place that could happen was the Stemmons overpass. But he certainly could not have seen the assassination very clearly from that location. 1: Anything ? ----------------------------------- December 17, 2006: **Was there any indications made, who/if anyone taped the autopsy, and that it if so, -- in fact were in the possession of William Pitzer? And if so, any theories of what happened to it? GM: There have been rumors in recent years that the Kennedy autopsy may have been filmed, but many in the room insist there were no cameras. 2: Anything ?
  6. This from Alternet: https://www.alternet.org/visions/chomsky-republican-party-most-dangerous-organization-human-history Excerpted: Anyone have any clue what 'white paper' he's talking about?
  7. I perceive a new interest in the CT that the Radical Right in Dallas was behind the JFK assassination. This would include such WC witnesses as General Walker, Robert Alan Surrey, Revilo P. Oliver, Bernard Weisman, and possibly included Dallas officials, Will Fritz, BIll Decker, Jesse Curry, Buddy Walthers, Harry Holmes, James Hosty, Forrest Sorrels, Earle Cabell and others in their company. Such a theory would attempt to harmonize with Jim Garrison and Joan Mellen's identification of a dozen people in New Orleans, including Guy Banister, David Ferrie, Clay Shaw, Jack S. Martin, Fred Crisman and Tommy Beckham. Also implied are Rightist elements in the South including Joseph Milteer, Billy James Hargis, Ed Butler, Carlos Bringuier and Kent Courtney. It would also include people who have already confessed, such as Frank Sturgis, Howard Hunt, David Morales, Roscoe White, Loran Hall, Gerry Patrick Hemming and Lee Harvey Oswald. As a starting point, the recent book by Dr. Jeffrey Caufield, General Walker and the Murder of President Kennedy: the Extensive New Evidence of a Radical Right Conspiracy (2015) is presented. Regards, --Paul Trejo
  8. I propose we start a brand-new thread and move through this step-by-step and methodically. My first questions is this...Who was angry enough at JFK to want to kill him? I would argue that there were many people who were angry enough to want him killed. However, the only thing I can prove is that Oswald did NOT hate JFK and want him killed. Oswald kept a small address book and on page 17 it lists four people Oswald openly stated he wanted to kill. 1. Texas Governor John Connally. 2. Richard Nixon. 3. General Edwin Walker. 4. FBI agent James Hosty. 1. Texas Governor John Connally - The grudge got started in January 1962. Oswald was in the Soviet Union, where he'd gone after being honorably discharged from the Marine Corps. When the Marines learned he wanted to defect, Oswald's discharge was summarily downgraded to undesirable. Oswald was angry and for good reason; his actions after his discharge had nothing to do with his three years as a Marine. By early 1962, Oswald was disenchanted with Soviet life and wanted to return home. He was now saddled with a wife, Marina, and a child, and he knew that someone with a ninth-grade education, who had spent time in Russia and had an undesirable discharge on his record, would have few prospects in America.Oswald wrote a heartfelt plea to Connally, a fellow Texan and the head of the Navy Department, the civilian overseer of the Marines. In poignant terms Oswald asked Connally to redress what was a transparent miscarriage of justice. What he got back a month later, in February 1962, was a classic bureaucratic brushoff. The dismissive letter arrived in an envelope with Connally's smiling face on the front, bursting from a Texas star and announcing his bid for the Texas governorship.In the months after Oswald's return to America, his worst fears were realized. He did, indeed, have serious trouble finding and holding jobs in Texas. According to the testimony of Russian emigres in Dallas who knew him during this period, every time his discharge came up in a job interview, Oswald froze, and his blame of Connally deepened. 2. Richard Nixon - For this, I'm going to need some help. All I know is that Richard Nixon was in Dallas the day of the assassination, attending a convention in his role as a lawyer for Pepsi Cola. I have yet to find a reason WHY Oswald would want him dead. 3. General Edwin Walker - Oswald did try to assassinate General Walker at his home. Oswald left a note for his wife Marina letting her know what to do if he was ever arrested. That night, he came home and described how he shot at General Walker. The note was finally located when Ruth Paine delivered it to Marina in a Russian language book. 4. James Hosty - Oswald definitely did visit the Dallas Field Office (FBI) a week to two weeks prior to the assassination of JFK, looking for Agent Hosty, who had recently visited his wife Marina. When told that Hosty was not in, Oswald left a note in an envelope which was unsealed.The note contained some sort of threat, but accounts varied widely as to whether Oswald threatened to "blow up the FBI" or merely "report this to higher authorities." Hosty's questioning of Marina Oswald was seen by Lee Oswald as harassment and he wanted it to stop. People testified to the letter although Hosty was ordered to have it destroyed. We know it existed. Rich
  9. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10006-10248.pdf Cale Allen, DOD Case Officer in 1963 - Requested to contact G.D. in April 29, 1963 - https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10112-10444.pdf
  10. Might as well copy and paste here too: Hi......, ---- time certaintly flies! (Copy and pasted from a private message received last year). Can't believe it is more than 10 years ago I made my Youtube-channel. It has been neglected to say the least. The videos are more than 10! years old,- and it was a different time then. As far as I can remember,- I only made public footage, - which at that time I had yet to see on Youtube or anywhere online. Some of the videos have sadly been removed, as far as I can tell,- but many are still there. I still get comments all the time ( I now discovered). I am so rusty myself now at this subject, compared to then -- - and Youtube is a different world now. I logged in the other day,- and for all I know -- it is low numbers,.- but for me it was quite astounding that such a neglected channel (do not think I have done anything on it since 2010 or somewhere around there) - has 3.5 million views and 1224 subscribers (who haven't gotten anything in all these years). Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/10Garmonbozia01 The collection of photos are gone as that link is deactivated. I have everything on an old harddisk. As far as I can remember, - it was quite a lot. It is so old - I have to obtain an (think it is called an IDE-cable) to transfer the data. I studied the assassination to a manic degree,- communicated with people all over, including Gary Mack, and other very knowledgeable people - and it now feels like time has made 99% of what I remember unacessible. In retrospect it is quite intriguing to reflect on it now,- all the theories, the fantastic people I "met" - - both here and across the globe ,- - through the internet. The initiation-process of the crater / inverted bulge , in the back of J.F.K.'s head -- visible in the Moorman photo -- if it was the moment of impact; -- would it be comparable for instance , - like when a symmetrical object is dropped down unto the surface of the water. (In order to determine angle of origin) ? T.V.J.
  11. a pass! Let's see what Bill Moyers was involved in on that fateful day November 22nd, 1963. I am not saying that Bill knew that his actions would set up JFK for assassination. What I am saying is that he was most likely told to do certain things without the foreknowledge that JFK was about to get assassinated. 1. Told Ken O' Donnel, JFK's secretary, to select the Trade Mart as the place for the luncheon. 2. Told DPD Assistant Chief George Lumpkin (Lead Car) to change the motorcade route to turn on Elm Street instead of going straight on Main Street through Dealey Plaza. 3. Asked his aide Betty Harris to tell Secret Service Agent Sorrels to have the bubble top removed from JFK's car at Love Field.
  12. Any doctors in this forum? According to the lateral fracture lines in JFK's skull, where did the bullet enter JFK's skull from the rear? I believe I already know where the bullet entered JFK's skull from the rear. The follow-up question is: How could that bullet exit the top right of JFK's skull from a downward trajectory? What I find interesting in the lateral lines of the side profile of JFK's skull, there seems to be a break in the lateral lines. Looks like a bone was put there to cover a hole. It could just be that the bone around the ear is denser than other bones. The other observation is the other bone separated by lateral lines to the top left of the bone in question also looks like it covers a hole. Interesting! The frontal x-ray shows the lateral lines as well emanating from what looks like a circle in the back of JFK's skull.
  13. Denny Zartman

    Roscoe White

    I’ve read aspects of the Roscoe White story in bits and pieces throughout the years, and never gave it much serious thought. A few nights ago I watched this video “Evidence Of Revision – JFK Assassination Rarities” on YouTube. It put some pieces together in a startling way, and I’m doing some more research into it. I’m curious as to what others her think, and if anyone knows of any further research. The section concerning Roscoe White is between 16:00 and 35:35. I also consulted Livingstone’s “High Treason 2” and the revised version of Marrs’s “Crossfire” for more information. From my research, these seem to be many of the facts: Geneva White – Roscoe’s wife Worked for Jack Ruby Says she confirms existence of Roscoe’s diary Says she overheard Ruby and Roscoe planning to kill JFK Owned an alternate version of the backyard photo of Oswald Ricky White – Roscoe’s son Says Roscoe’s diary existed and contained information about Roscoe’s role in the JFK assassination Says the FBI absconded with the diary Has copies of alleged CIA cables obliquely referring to the assassination Reverend Jack Shaw Says he took deathbed confession from Roscoe Says he audio taped Geneva’s recounting of her experiences Says he also had a CIA affiliation? Other witnesses of unknown name and number Recall seeing Roscoe’s diary Roscoe White Knowledgeable about photography? Was, or was about to become, a police photographer? Joined Dallas PD early October 1963 (a little over a week before Oswald got his job at the TSBD) Former Marine as was Oswald, sailed on the same ship as Oswald going to Japan Marine-era photo of Oswald and a man with bump on right wrist and face that resembles Roscoe White Mysterious death in an explosion, allegedly saw someone leaving the scene just prior Allegedly gave deathbed confession to Rev. Jack Shaw Chin resembles chin on Oswald’s backyard photograph Posture resembles posture on Oswald’s backyard photograph Bump on right wrist resembles bump on Oswald’s right wrist in the backyard photograph - Roscoe’s alleged diary reportedly has a brief description of what he did that day, from Ricky White’s memory. It allegedly indicated that Roscoe shot from the grassy knoll and rode with Tippit to pick up Oswald. Roscoe tried to get Tippit to drive Oswald to Redbird airport. When Tippit balked and suspected Roscoe’s and Oswald’s involvement with the reports coming in about JFK, Roscoe had to kill Tippit. The weird thing is, this seems to explain some things. Acquilla Clemons described seeing two people at the scene of Tippit’s killing (though the physical description of one of them doesn’t seem to match either Oswald or Roscoe.) And, if Roscoe was the shooter on the grassy knoll dressed in a policeman's uniform, then that appears to explain Badgeman. (For the record, I am agnostic on Badgeman's existence.) I believe Tippit had some clothes hanging in the back of his police car, if I recall correctly. Roscoe could have changed out of his policeman's uniform and into street clothes after giving the signal by honking outside Oswald's rooming house. I believe Earlene Roberts said she saw two policemen in the police car honking outside, So, normally I would be able to discount a lot of this. I did discount a lot of it when I heard just bits and pieces. The matching chin doesn’t prove anything, but they do match. The posture doesn’t prove anything, yet it too matches the backyard photograph. The bump on the wrist, however, can’t easily be dismissed. If Roscoe was previously knowledgeable about photography, that also seems quite suspicious. The statements of Rev. Jack Shaw, while not conclusive, are compelling, in my opinion. I'd like to know more about his tapes of Geneva and what became of them. The fact that Geneva worked for Ruby is certainly quite a coincidence and difficult to write off as happenstance. And that Roscoe joined the Dallas police department less than two months before the assassination makes me very suspicious. But the one thing that seems to be the biggest is that the White family owned an alternate pose of the backyard photograph. A pose that was re-created by investigators PRIOR to its official discovery. I don’t know how that ownership of that alternate photo could be anything but damning. You’d have to ignore all of the other “coincidences” and believe that Roscoe was just a random cop that just happened, by another coincidence, to be in a position to steal an important and incriminating piece of evidence in the crime of the century, wouldn’t you?
  14. Has anyone else read this book? "Written as a fast-moving novel, Charles W. Weaver writes with more than a casual observer's perspective. From a young radio salesman dispatched to collect the monthly advertising revenue from Jack Ruby's SILVER SPUR in Dallas, to overseeing a ship docked in international waters of the Baltic Sea that may have been doing more than just playing Rock 'n Roll, Weaver's fictionalized web of conspiracies will leave the reader with little doubt about the men who killed Kennedy." Triple Double Cross: The Story Behind the Conspiracies to Murder John F. Kennedy Hardcover – June 10, 2008 by Charles W. Weaver (Author) In the 1970s I met and talked with Bill Weaver before he wrote this book. I was investigating the bogus claims made about the start of Radio Caroline in the UK during 1964. What I learned from Bill Weaver all checked out as true. I recently bought a copy of this book he privately published. He had boxes of books delivered to his garage, only to have them wiped out by Hurricane Ike flooding. Meantime, Bill had died following a long physical illness. The book falls into four sections. One part is based upon input from Jones Harris; another part centers around Phillip de Vosjoli; another part deals with the offshore 'pirate' radio ship Bon Jour which Weaver claims was chartered to the CIA and anchored off Stockholm as a listening post to KGB transmissions in the Baltic Sea. The ship station called Radio Nord lasted only a brief time and was allegedly the work of Clint Murchison and Gordon McLendon with management by Robert Thompson. Weaver claims that Radio Nord was a 'cover' for the CIA listening post on board ship. Weaver worked in management for McLendon at Houston and he did have custody of the vessel when it berthed at Galveston in March 1963, and remained there until December 1963. That part I have verified. But Weaver claims and his wife who I have spoken to confirms, that Weaver was sent to Stockholm to close Radio Nord down after it had served its CIA purpose. That was in the summer of 1961. The last part of the book appears to have been written hastily by someone else after Weaver died - because it is poorly written and total fiction. There are only a few copies of this book still available. After I bought a used copy at exorbitant price, others came forward to offer copies at a reasonable price. I am working on a research project for publication and I would like feedback from anyone who has read this book.
  15. I lived down the road from Rose Hill and I remember all of the fuss when they dug up the remains of a coffin in which the remains of corpse claimed to be that of Lee Harvey Oswald were entombed. I was bored by it all at the time and paid no attention, and neither was I interested in all of the many JFK assassination theories. Times change and so do circumstances and locations and now I find my sphere of interest is overlapping the events of November 22, 1963. After reading the report by the person who carried out an inspection of the exhumed corpse, it seems that the only thing left to play with was the skull. The skull contained teeth and a small hole from a previous operation. My own father had the same operation for the same reasons. So it seems that dental records from the Marine days of LHO and the report of his hospital operation were the only things that the examiner had to work with. (I am ignoring the distraction about rings on fingers, etc.) Recently I have begun to take an interest in both the original questions raised by Jones Harris (who is still alive and who I spoke with about a month ago), which overlap to some extent the same questions still being raised about who was standing on the steps of the DSBD. Since others on this forum are far more knowledgeable than I am about the "Two Oswalds Theory", what is the consensus opinion regarding the examination and conclusion that was derived from the exhumation?
  16. Was John F. Kennedy married before he wed Jackie, and if he was, was he engaging in bigamy? The reason I am interested is because of events in 1965 that impact Caroline Kennedy, who, if the story is true, would have been born in Catholic eyes, "out of wedlock". I have seen Photostats of the genealogy book and I have read how Joe Kennedy is alleged to have destroyed all evidence of the alleged earlier marriage. I would like to know what hard facts currently exist about his earlier marriage.
  17. Rich Pope

    Rich Pope

    When officer JD Tippit (car #10) pulled-up to the boarding house where Lee Oswald was staying, Tippit honks the horn on his car twice. I believe this was a code to Oswald to go to one of the many safehouses in Oak Cliff. However, Oswald goes to the bus stop, stands there for about 30 seconds and then takes off on foot. It has been my belief that Oswald was headed towards Jack Ruby's apartment before feeling it necessary to duck into the Texas Theatre. But I did read somewhere that when Oswald was in the theatre, he went from person to person in the dark as if he was trying to locate someone, possibly a handler. Any thoughts?
  18. Mervyn Hagger

    JONES HARRIS

    Jones Harris is still alive and he is the person who began the questions about whether Lee Harvey Oswald was standing on the steps of the Book Depository the moment that Kennedy was shot. This raised the question of how LHO could be in two places at once. Then it spawned the Billy Lovelady controversy. From there we ended up with two people: Lee Oswald and Harvey Oswald. What is the current strength / weakness of this form of speculation?
  19. Rich Pope

    Judyth Vary Baker

    At the time of the assassination, Southwestern Bell Telephone Company was the only telephone company in the state of Texas. In 1994, my father retired as Vice Chairman of Southwestern Bell Corporation, as President and Chief Executive Officer of Southwestern Bell Telephone Company, and as Chief Financial Officer for Southwestern Bell Telephone Corporation. Back in 1963, David Ferry was supplied a WATS line number. David Ferry passed the number to Judyth Vary Baker and she and Lee Oswald were able to talk on the phone without any telephone charges being accrued. When my mother passed-away in 2013, my brothers and I had to go through her home to prepare for an estate sale. There was a cardboard box with "1963" written on the outside of the box. I thought that since my older brother was born in 1963, it was a box meant for him. I imagined it contained some baby clothes, a baby book and other things related to my brother. When I saw the contents of the box, it was full of papers and handwritten notes concerning JFK as well as a handwritten letter from Lady Bird Johnson to my mother on the first lady's personal letterhead. I'm currently in the process of trying to get all of the contents of that box and as I get more things from it, I'll post them here.
  20. Rich Pope

    Good Documentary

    I watched this last night and I find it to be accurate. It's worth watching.
  21. I've appreciated the chance to talk to a lot of really nice people on this forum. I'm going to take a break. Even though my older brother has the box with 1963 written on it, he's not speaking to me. So, my younger brother sent him an email asking for the box. All I can do is wait and hope. All of you are great people and I love how you are keeping the assassination of JFK front and center in the eyes of the public. It is such an important thing to let slip away. God bless all of you. Your friend, Rich
  22. Rich Pope

    Storm Drain

    Someone mentioned in a post to me that a shot from the storm drain on Elm Street was a stretch of the imagination. Currently, if one were to travel to Dallas and get into the storm drain, it would appear impossible to shoot the president from that vantage point. However, if we bear in mind Elm Street has been paved and repaved many times since the assassination, (the most recent was for Oliver Stone's movie JFK), we realize the storm drain opening was much larger and a shot would not be impossible. This leads me to something, "Roselli bragged to the source, who was a made man in La Cosa Nostra, that Roselli had shot at and may have killed John Kennedy…Roselli and his men then finished the job from the sewer drain and the grassy knoll while the police and witnesses were running around like chickens with their heads cut off." – M. Wesley Swearingen, To Kill A President, 2008. Investigators have noted that Dallas is full of underground tunnels and to get from the storm drain to the Trinity River only took 20 minutes when they were investigating the possibility. Which brings us to a wonderful character, Jack Lawrence. Who could have entered the storm drain here... And easily exit the storm drain, here... So, without too much imagination we can ponder that Lawrence made this way through the storm sewer and exited at the Trinity River. He then went to work at the car dealership. His boss related how Lawrence was filthy and disheveled. "Lawrence went straight into the men's restroom and began vomiting uncontrollably. The night before the assassination, he had borrowed a car from the dealership where he worked, to use on a date. The next morning Lawrence was late to work, showing up without the car, clothes muddied, and out of breath. When asked about the car, he told his boss that he had to park it because of all the traffic. The car was later found to be parked behind the wooden picket fence on to of the Grassy Knoll."
  23. Rich Pope

    Carcano Rifle

    So, I decided to go online and purchase a Carcano rifle with a period accurate scope. I guess in layman's terms, I bought the rifle and scope Oswald was supposed to have used to shoot JFK. I took the rifle and scope to a gunsmith and asked him to mount the scope. Each week I would call to see if it was finished. Two months later, they called me and said it was finished. They explained all the difficulties they had side mounting the scope because of the bolt action of the rifle. So, if Oswald purchased this rifle and a scope, I wonder if he had as difficult of a time getting it ready for target practice, shooting at General Walker and of course finally, Kennedy himself. I understand that Oswald was a marine but he qualified (barely) with a completely different rifle. Any thoughts?
  24. Rich Pope

    Alternative Theory

    I stumbled across this link which provides an alternative idea of how JFK was assassinated. If anyone has the time, please view it and let me know what you think. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIPArH-WymgiRdfArDk9ctA
  25. The "Historic Diary" Warren Commission Exhibit 24 Vol 16, Pg 94-105 Note: In the interest of clarity and legibility, spelling, punctuation, and capitalization have been corrected in certain cases. Historic Diary 30 From Oct. 16 1959 Arrival--Leaving 1959 1st Page Oct 16. Arrive from Helsinki by train; am met by Intourist Representative and in car to Hotel "Berlin." Register as "student" 5 day Lux tourist ticket. Meet my Intourist guide Rima Sherikova. I explain to her I wish to apply for Russian citizenship. She is flabbergasted, but agrees to help. She checks with her boss, main office Intour, then helps me address a letter to Supreme Soviet asking for citizenship, meanwhile boss telephones passport & visa office and notifies them about me. Oct. 17 - Rima meets me for Intourist sightseeing, says we must continue with this, although I am too nervous. She is "sure" I'll have an answer soon. Asks me about myself and my reasons for doing this. I explain I am a communist, etc. She is politely sympathetic but uneasy now. She tries to be a friend to me. She feels sorry for me. I am something new. Sun Oct. 18. My 20th birthday, we visit exhibit in the morning and in the afternoon The Lenin-Stalin tomb. She gives me a present, book "Idiot" by Dostoevsky. Oct. 19. Tourism. Am anxious since my visa is good for five days only and still no word from authorities about my request. Oct. 20. Rima in the afternoon says Intourist was notified by the pass & visa department that they want to see me. I am excited greatly by this news. Oct. 21 (morning). Meeting with single official. Balding stout, black suit fairly good English, asks what do I want? I say Soviet citizenship. He ask why I give vague answers about "Great Soviet Union." He tells me "USSR only great in Literature," wants me to go back home. I am stunned; I reiterate. He says he shall check and let me know whether my visa will be (extended it expires today). Eve. 6.00 Receive word from police official. I must leave country tonight at 8.00 P.M. as visa expires. I am shocked!! My dreams! I retire to my room. I have $100. left. I have waited for 2 years to be accepted. My fondest dreams are shattered because of a petty official; because of bad planning. I planned too much! 7.00 P.M. I decide to end it. Soak wrist in cold water to numb the pain. Then slash my left wrist. Then plug wrist into bathtub of hot water. I think "when Rima comes at 8 to find me dead, it will be a great shock." Somewhere, a violin plays, as I 31 DIARY 2nd Page Oct. 21 (con):watch my life whirl away. I think to myself, "how easy to die" and a sweet death, (to violins). About 8.00, Rima finds my unconscious (bathtub water a rich red color). She screams (I remember that) and runs for help. Ambulance comes, am taken to hospital where five stitches are put in my wrists. Poor Rima stays by my side as interpreter (my Russian is still very bad) far into the night. I tell her, "go home" (my mood is bad) but she stays, she is "my friend" She has a strong will. Only at this moment I notice she is pretty. Oct. 22. Hospital. I am in a small room with about 12 others (sick persons), 2 orderlies, and a nurse. The room is very drab as well as the breakfast. Only after prolonged (2 hours) observation of the other patients do I realize I am in the Insanity ward. This realization disquiets me. Later in afternoon, I am visited by Rima. She comes in with two doctors. As interpreter, she must ask me medical question, "Did you know what you were doing?" Answer "yes." "Did you blackout?" "No," etc. I then complain about poor food. The doctors laugh. Apparently this is a good sign. Later they leave, I am alone with Rima (amongst the mentally ill). She encourages me and scolds me. She says she will help me get transferred to another section of Hospital (not for insane) where food is good. Oct. 23. Transferred to ordinary ward, (airy, good food) but nurses suspicious of me) they know). Afternoon. I am visited by Rosa Agafonova of the hotel tourist office, who asks me about my health. Very beautiful, excellent English, very merry and kind. She makes me very glad to be alive. Later Rima vists Oct. 24 Hospital Routine. Rima visits me in afternoon. Oct. 25. " " Oct. 26 An elderly American at the hospital grow suspicious about me for some reason. Because at Embassy I told him I had not registered as most tourist and I am, in general, evasive about my presence in Moscow and at hospital. Afternoon Rima visits. Oct. 27 Stiches are taken out by doctor with "dull" scissor. Wed. Oct 28. Morning. Leave hospital in Intourist car with Rima for Hotel "Berlin." Later I change hotels to "Metropole." All clothes packed, and money from my room (to the last kopeck) returned, as well as watch, ring. Ludmilla Dimitrova (Intourist office head) and Rosa invite me to come and sit and talk with them anytime. I get lonesome at new hotel. They feel sorry for me. 32 DIARY 3rd page Oct. 28(con.) Rima notifies me that pass & registration office wishes to see me about my future. Later Rima and car pick me up and we enter the offices to find four officials waiting for me (all unknown to me). They ask how my arm is, I say O.K. They ask "Do you want to go to your homeland." I say no I want Soviet citizen. I say I want to reside in the Soviet Union. They say they will see about that. Than they ask me about the lone official with whom I spoke in the first place (apparently he did not pass along my request at all but thought to simply get rid of me by not extending my Soviet visa at the time I requested it). I describe him (they make notes). What papers do you have to show who and what you are? I give them my discharge papers from the Marine Corps. They say wait for our answer. I ask how long? Not soon. Later Rima comes to check on me. I feel insulted and insult her. Oct 29. Hotel Room 214. Metropole Hotel. I wait. I worry. I eat once, stay next to phone, worry. I keep fully dressed Oct. 30. Hotel Room I have been in hotel three days; it seems like three years. I must have some sort of a showdown! Oct. 31. I make my decision. Getting passport at 12:00, I meet and talk with Rima for a few minutes. She says: stay in your room and eat well. I don't tell her about what I intend to do, since I know she would not approve. After she leaves, I wait a few minutes and than I catch a taxi, "American Embassy" I say. At 12:30, I arrive American Embassy. I walk in and say to the receptionist, "I would like to see the Consular." She points at a large ledger and says, "If you are a tourist please register." I take out my American passport and lay it in the desk, "I have come to dissolve my American citizenship," I say matter-of-factly. She rises and enters the ofice of Richard Snyder American Head Consular in Moscow at that time. He invites me to sit down. He finishes a letter he is typing and then ask what he can do for me. I tell him I have decided to take Soviet citizenship and would like to legally dissolve my U.S. citizenship. His assistant (Now Head Consular) McVickers looks up from his work. Snyder takes down personal infornation, asks questions, 33 1959 His. Diary Page 4 Sat Oct 31. (continued) warns me not to take any steps before the soviets except me, says I am a "fool", and says the dissolution papers are a long time in preparing. (In other words refuses to allow me at that time to dissolve U.S. citizenship.) I state, "my mind is make up. From this day forward I consider myself no citizen of the U.S.A." I spend 40 minutes at the Embassy before Snyder says, "now unless you wish to expound on your marxist beliefs you can go." "I wish to dissolve U.S. citizenship." Not today, he says in effect. I leave Embassy, elated at this showdown. Returning to my hotel, I feel now my energies are not spent in vain. I'm sure Russians will accept me after this sign of my faith in them. 2:00 a knock. A reporter by the name of Goldstene wants an interview. I'm flabbergasted. "How did you find out?" "The Embassy called us," he said. I send him away. I sit and realize this is one way to bring pressure on me. By notifying my relations in U.S. through the newspapers, although they would say "it's for the public record." A half hour later another reporter, Miss Mosby, comes. I answer a few quick questions after refusing an interview. I am surprised at the interest. I get phone call from "Time" at night, a phone call from the States. I refuse all calls without finding out whose it from. I feel non-depressed because of the attention. 10:00 I retire. Nov. 1 - More reporters, 3 phone calls from brother & mother, now I feel slightly exhilarated, not so lonely. Nov- 2-15 Days of utter loneliness. I refuse all reports phone calls. I remain in my room; I am racked with dysentery. Nov 15 - I decide to give an interview. I have Miss Mosby's card so I call her. She drives right over. I give my story, allow pictures. Later, story is distorted, sent without my permission, that is: before I ever saw and OKed her story. Again I feel slightly better because of the attention. Nov. 16. A Russian official comes to my room, asks how I am. Notifies me I can remain in USSR 'til some solution is found with what to do with me. It is comforting news for me. 34 Diary Page 5 Nov 17 - Dec. 30 I have bought myself two self-teaching Russian Language Books. I force myself to study 8 hours a day. I sit in my room and read and memorize words. All meals I take in my room. Rima arranged that. It is very cold on the streets, so I rarely go outside at all. For this month and a-half, I see no one, speak to no-one, except every now and then Rima, who calls the ministry about me. Have they forgotten?, During December I paid no money to the hotel, but Rima told Hotel I was expecting a lot of money from USA. I have $28. left. This month I was called to the passport office and met 3 new officials who asked me the same questions I answered a month before. They appear not to know me at all. Dec 31. New Years eve, I spend in the company of Rosa Agafonova at the Hotel Berlin. She has the duty. I sit with her until past midnight. She gives me a small "Boratin" clown for a New Years present. She is very nice. I found out only recently she is married, has small son who was born crippled; that is why she is so strangely tender and compelling. Jan 1 - 4 No change in routine. Jan 4. I am called to passsport office and finally given a Soviet document, not the soviet citizenship as I so wanted, only a Residence document, not even for foreigners but a paper called, "for those without citizenship." Still I am happy. The official says they are sending me to the city of "Minsk." I ask, "is that in Siberia?" He only laughs. He also tells me that they have arranged for me to receive some money through the Red Cross to pay my hotel bills and expenses. I thank the gentlemen and leave later in the afternoon. I see Rima. She asks, "are you happy?" "Yes." Jan.5. I go to Red Cross in Moscow for money with Interpreter (a new one). I receive 5000 rubles, a huge sum!! Later in Minsk I am to earn 70 rubles a month at the factory. Jan.7. I leave Moscow by train for Minsk, Belorussia. My hotel bill was 2200 rubles and the train ticket to Minsk 150 rubles so I have a lot of money & hope. I wrote my brother & mother letters in which I said, "I do not wish to ever contact you again. I am beginning a new life and I don't want any part of the old." 35 Diary Minsk. Page 6 Jan 7. Arrive in Minsk, met by 2 women Red Cross workers. We go to hotel "Minsk." I take room and meet Rosa and Stellina, two persons from Intourist in hotel who speak English. Stellina is in 40's, nice, married, young child. Rosa about 23, blond, attractive, unmarried, excellent English. We attract each other at once. Jan 8. I meet the city mayor, comrade Shrapof, who welcomes me to Minsk, promises a rent-free apartment "soon," and warns me about "uncultured persons" who sometimes insult foreigners. My interpretor Roman Detkof Head For. Tech Institute next door. Jan. 10.The day to myself I walk through city; very nice. Jan. 11.I visit Minsk radio factory where I shall work. There I meet Argentinian Immigrant Alexander Ziger. Born a Polish Jew, immigrated to Argentinia in 1938 and back to Polish homeland (now part of Belorussia) in 1955, speaks English with American accent; he worked for American company in Argentinia. He is Head of a Department, a qualified Engineeer, in late 40's, mild mannered, likable. He seems to want to tell me something. I show him my temporary documents and say soon I shall have Russian citizenship. Jan 13 - 16 I work as a "checker" metal worker, pay: 700 rubles a month, work very easy. I am learning Russian quickly. Now, everyone is very friendly and kind. I meet many young Russian workers my own age. They have varied personalities. All wish to know about me, even offer to hold a mass meeting so I can say. I refuse politely. At night I take Rosa to the theater, movie, or opera almost every day. I'm living big and am very satisfied. I receive a check from the Red Cross every 5th of the month "to help." The check is 700 rubles. Therefore, every month I make 1400 rubles, about the same as the Director of the factory! Ziger observes me during this time. I don't like: picture of Lenin which watches from its place of honour and physical training at 11.-11.10 each morning (compulsary) for all (shades of H.G. Wells!!). March 16. I receive a small flat, one-room kitchen-bath near the factory (8 min. walk) with splendid view from 2 balconies of the river, almost rent free (60 rubles a month). It is a Russian's dream. March 17 - April 31 - Work. I have lost contact with Rosa after my house moving. I meet Pavel Golavacha, a young man my age, friendly, very intelligent, a excellent radio technician. His father is Gen. Golovacha Commander of Northwestern Siberia, twice hero of USSR in W.W.II. 29 Diary Page 7 May 1 - May Day came as my first holiday of all factories, etc, closed. After spectacular military parade, all workers parade past, reviewing stand waving flags and pictures of Mr. K., etc. I follow the American custom of marking a holiday by sleeping in in the morning. At night I visit with the Ziger's daughters at a party thrown by them. About 40 people came, many of Argentinian origin. We dance and play around and drink until 2 a.m. when party breaks up. Leonara Ziger oldest daughter, 26, formally married, now divorced, a talented singer. Anita Ziger, 20, very gay, not so attractive but we hit it off. Her boyfriend, Alfred, is a Hungarian chap, silent, and brooding, not at all like Anita. Ziger advises me to go back to U.S.A. Its the first voice of opposition I have heard. I respect Ziger; he has seen the world. He says many things and relates many things I do not know about the U.S.S.R. I begin to feel uneasy inside, it's true! June-July Summer months of green beauty; pine forest very deep. I enjoy many Sundays in the environments of Minsk with the Zigers who have a car, "mos-vick." Alfred always goes along with Anita, Leonara seems to have no permenant boyfriend but many admirers. She has a beautiful Spanish figure, long black hair, like Anita. I never pay much attention to her; she's too old for m. She seems to dislike my lack of attention for some reason. She is high strung. I have become habituated to a small cafe, which is where I dine in the evening. The food is generally poor and always exactly the same menu in any cafe, at any point in the city. The food is cheap and I don't really care about quality after three years in the U.S.M.C. Aug-Sept As my Russian improves, I become increasingly conscious of just what sort of a society I live in. Mass gymnastics, compulsary after work meeting, usually political information meeting. Compulsary attendence at lectures and the sending of the entire shop collective (except me) to pick potatoes on a Sunday, at a State collective farm. A "patriotic duty" to bring in the harvest. The opinions of the workers (unvoiced) are that it's a great pain in the neck. They don't seem to be especially enthusiastic about any of the "collective" duties, a natural feeling. I am increasingly aware of the presence, in all things, of Lebizen, shop party secretary, fat, fortyish, and jovial on the outside. He is a no-nonsense party regular. 28 Diary Page 8 Oct. The coming of Fall, my dread of a new Russian winter, are mellowed in splendid golds and reds of fall in Belorussia. Plums, peaches, apricots, and cherries abound for these last fall weeks. I am a healthy brown color and stuffed with fresh fruit (at other times of the year unobtainable). Oct 18 My 21st birthday sees Rosa, Pavel, Ella at a small party at my place. Ella, a very attractive Russian Jew I have been going walking with lately, works at the radio factory also. Rosa and Ella are jealous of each other. It brings a warm feeling to me. Both are at my place for the first time. Ella and Pavel both give ashtrays (I don't smoke); we have a laugh. Nov. Finds the approach of winter now. A growing loneliness overtakes me in spite of my conquest of Ennatachina, a girl from Riga, studying at the music conservatory in Minsk. After an affair which lasts a few weeks, we part. Nov 15 In Nov. I make the acquaintance of four girls rooming at the For. Ian. dormitory in room 212. Nell is very interesting, so is Tomka, Tomis and Alla. I usually go to the institute dormitory with a friend of mine who speaks English very well. Eraich Titov is in the fourth year at the medical institute. Very bright fellow. At the dormitory we 6 sit and talk in English. Dec 1 I am having an light affair with Nell Korobka. Jan 1 New Years I spend at home of Ella German. I think I'm in love with her. She has refused my more dishonorable advances. We drink and eat in the presence of her family in a very hospitable atmosphere. Later I go home drunk and happy. Passing the river homeward, I decide to propose to Ella. Jan. 2 After a pleasant hand-in-hand walk to the local cinema, we come home, standing on the doorstep I propose. She hesitates, then refuses, my love is real but she has none for me. Her reason besides lack of love; I am American and someday might be arrested simply because of that example Polish Intervention in the 20's led to the arrest of all people in the Soviet Union of polish origin. "You understand the world situation. There is too much against you and you don't even know it." I am stunned. She snickers at my awkwardness. In turning to go (I am too stunned to think!) I realize she was never serious with me but only exploited my being an American in order to get the envy of the other girls who consider me differed from the Russian Boys. I am miserable! 27 DIARY Page 9 Jan 3. I am miserable about Ella. I love her but what can I do? It is the state of fear which was always in the Soviet Union. Jan 4. One year after I received the residence document I am called in to the passport office and asked if I want citizenship (Russian). I say no simply extend my residential passport to agree and my document is extended until Jan 4, 1962. Jan-4-31 I am starting to reconsider my desire about staying. The work is drap, the money I get has nowhere to be spent. No nightclubs or bowling alleys, no places of recreation except the trade union dances. I have have had enough. Feb. 1st Make my first request to American Embassy, Moscow, for reconsidering my position, I stated, "I would like to go back to U.S." Feb. 28th I receive letter from Embassy. Richard E. Snyder stated, "I could come in for an interview any time I wanted." March 1-16 I now live in a state of expectation about going back to the U.S. I confided in Ziger. He supports my judgement but warns me not to tell any Russians about my desire to return. I understand now why. March 17 - I and Erich went to trade union dance. Boring, but at the last hour I am introduced to a girl with a French hair-do and red-dress with white slipper. I dance with her, then ask to show her home. I do, along with 5 other admirers. Her name is Marina. We like each other right away. She gives me her phone number and departs home with a not-so-new friend in a taxi. I walk home. March 18-31- We walk. I talk a little about myself, she talks alot about herself. Her name is Marina N. Prusakova. Apr. 1st-30 We are going steady and I decide I must have her. She puts me off so on April 15, I propose. She accepts. April 31 After a 7 day delay at the marriage bureau because of my unusual passport, they allow us to register as man & wife. Two of Marinas girlfriends act as bridesmaids. We are married at her aunts home. We have a dinner reception for about 20 friends and neighbors who wish us happiness (in spite of my origin and accent), which was in general disquieting to any Russian since foreigners are very rare in the Soviet Union, even tourist. After an evening of eating and drinking in which uncle Wooser started a fight and the fuse blow on an overloaded circuit, we take our leave and walk the 15 minutes to our home. We lived near each other. At midnight we were home. 26 DIARY Page 10 1st May Day 1961 Found us thinking about our future. In spite of fact I married Marina to hurt Ella, I found myself in love with Marina. May - The transition of changing full love from Ella to Marina was very painful, especially as I saw Ella almost every day at the factory but as the days and weeks went by, I adjusted more and more my wife mentally. I still hadn't told my wife of my desire to return to US. She is madly in love with me from the very start, boat rides on Lake Minsk, walks throughout the parks, evening at home, or Aunt Valia's place mark May. June - A continuence of May, except that we draw closer and closer and I think very little now of Ella. In the last days of this month, I reveal my longing to return to America. My wife is slightly startled. But then encourages me to do what I wish to do. July - I decided to take my two week vacation and travel to Moscow (without police permission) to the American Embassy to see about getting my U.S. passport back and make arrangements for my wife to enter the U.S. with me. July 8 - I fly by plane to Minsk on a il-20. 2 hrs 20m later, after taking a tearful and anxious parting from my wife, I arrive in Moscow. Departing by bus from the airfield, I arrive in the center of the city. Making my way through heavy traffic, I don't come in sight of the embassy until 3:00 in the afternoon. It's Saturday, what if they are closed? Entering I find the offices empty but manage to contact Snyder on the phone (since all embassy personel live in the same building). He comes down to greet me shake my hand. After interview he advises me to come in first thing Mon. (see - July 8 -13.) July 8. Interview July 9 receive passport; call Marina to Moscow also. July 14. I and Marina return to Minsk. July 15. Marina at work, is shocked to find out there every know she entered the U.S. embassy. They were called at her place of work from some officials in Moscow. The bosses hold a meeting and give her a strong browbeating. The first of many indoctrinations. 25 DIARY 11rd Page July 15 - Aug. 20 We have found out which blanks and certificates are necessary to apply for a exit visa. They number about 20 papers; birth certificates, affidavits, photos, etc. On Aug 20th, we give the papers out. They say it will be 3 1/2 months before we know whether they'll let us go or not. In the meantime, Marina has had to stade 4 different meetings at the place of work held by her Boss's at the direction of "someone" by phone. The young communist league headquarters also called about her and she had to go see them for 1 1/2 hrs. The purpose (expressed) is to dissuade her from going to the U.S.A. Net effect: make her more stubborn about wanting to go. Marina is pregnant, we only hope that the visas come through soon. Aug 21-Sept 1 - I make expected trips to the passport & visa office, also to ministry of foreign affairs in Minsk, also ministry of Internal affairs, all of which have a say in the granting of a visa. I extracted promises of quick attention to US. Sept-Oct 18. No word from Min. (They'll call us). Marina leaves Minsk by train on vacation to the city of Khar'kov in the Urals to visit an aunt for 4 weeks. During this time I am lonely but I an Erich go to the dances and public places for entertainment. I haven't done this in quite a few months now. I spend my birthday alone at the opera watching my favorite, "Queen of Spades." I am 22 years old. Nov-2 Marina arrives back, radiant, with several jars of preserves for me from her aunt in Khar'kov. Nov-Dec. Now we are becoming annoyed about the delay. Marina is beginning to waver about going to the US. Probably from the strain and her being pregnant, still we quarrel and so thing are not too bright, especially, with the approach of the hard Russian winter. Dec 25 - Xmas Day, Tues. Marina is called to the passport & visa office. She is told we have been granted Soviet exit visas. She fills out the completing blank and then comes home with the news. It's great (I think!). New Years, we spend at the Zigers at a dinner party at midnight attended by 6 other persons. Jan. 4. I am called to the passport office since my Residential passport expires today. Since I now have a US. in my possession I am given a totally new residential pass called, "Pass for Forin," and since they have given US permission to leave, and know we shall, good to July 5, 1962. 24 DIARY Page 12 Jan 15. Feb. 15. Days of cold Russian winter. But we feel fine. Marina is supposed to have baby on March 1st. Feb 15 - Dawn. Marina wakes me. It's her time. At 9:00 we arrive at the hospital. I leave her in care of nurses and leave to go to work. 10:00 Marina has a baby girl. When I visit the hospital at 5:00 after work I am given news. We both wanted a boy. Marina feels well, baby girl O.K. Feb. 23 Marina leaves hospital. I see June for first time. Feb. 28 I go to register (as proscribed by the law) the baby. I want her name to be June Marina Oswald but those bureaucrats say her middle name must be the same as my first. A Russian custom support by a law. I refuse to have her name written as "June Lee." They promise to call the city ministry (city hall) and find out in this case since I do have a U.S. passport. Feb. 29. I am told nobody knows what to do exactly, but everyone agrees "Go ahead and do it, "Po-Russki." Name: June Lee. March. The last commications are exchanged by myself and Embassy. Letters are always arriving from my mother and brother in the U.S. I have still not told Erich, who is my oldest existing acquaintance, that we are going to the State. He's o.k. but I'm afraid he is too good a young communist league member, so I'll wait 'til last minute. March 24-Marina quits her job in the formal fashion. March 26. - I receive a letter from Immigration and Naturalization service at San Antonio, Texas, that Marina has had her visa petition to the U.S. (Approved!!) The last document. Now we only have to wait for the U.S. Embassy to receive their copy of the approval so they can officially give the go ahead. March 27 I receive a letter from a Mr. Phillips (a employer of my mother, pledging to support my wife in case of need).
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