J. Raymond Carroll Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Obama appears to be having little difficulty raising money for his campaign (twice as much as Clinton over the last week). I find that very worrying. Who is providing the money? What do they expect to get in return for this support? I am one of the 600,000-odd people who have contributed to Obama's campaign. I cannot speak for the other 599,999, but In return for my contribution I expect Obama to win the presidency and bring some sane and rational thinking to U.S. government, especially to foreign policy. According to everything I've read, most of Obama's contributors are small donors like me who do not expect a night in the Lincoln bedroom. Hilary's big donors have already contributed the maximum allowed by law ($2500 per person?) whereas Obama's supporters are making small monthly/weekly donations and most of us will never reach the legal max even if we continue contributing right up to the convention (and we will if we have to). Some say we cannot succeed, but I say...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Raymond Carroll Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Some say we cannot succeed, but I say...... I just received this email from Obama's election guru. It gives supporters the chance to influence superdelegates simply by telling their story. Is this creative thinking or what? Raymond -- Share your storyAs you've probably heard, there could be a wildcard in the race for the Democratic nomination. We firmly believe that the candidate who has won the most pledged delegates -- the result of having more voters in more places supporting your campaign -- will be the Democratic nominee. But to be safe, we are working to attract the support of "superdelegates" -- party officials and Democratic officeholders from across the country -- who also have a vote at the Democratic National Convention. You may already know some superdelegates -- they include senators, governors, and even former presidents and vice presidents. But many others are ordinary people who hold positions in the state and local party operations. These nearly 800 superdelegates will vote alongside the more than 3,000 pledged delegates who are chosen in the various state primaries and caucuses. The candidate that gets a majority of all delegates (superdelegates and pledged delegates combined) will be the Democratic nominee for president. Right now, Barack is ahead in the contest for pledged delegates. We've won 23 contests out of the 35 that have been held so far -- including the last 8 in a row. And with our decisive victories in Virginia, Maryland, and Washington, DC on Tuesday, we now lead by more than 135 pledged delegates in the race for the Democratic nomination. While we intend to continue winning states and expanding our lead among the pledged delegates, and believe that will likely ensure that Barack is the Democratic nominee, we're also doing the work of reaching out to superdelegates and making sure as many as possible support Barack Obama. Here's where you can play a key role. Our work so far has taught us one important lesson: that your personal story about why you support Barack Obama is often the most powerful persuasion tool for someone who's undecided. That's true whether that undecided voter is your neighbor or a superdelegate. The story of where you're from, what brought you into the political process, the issues that matter to you, and why you became part of this movement has the potential to inspire someone who could cast a deciding vote in this contest. Our staff will compile stories from supporters like you and make them a key part of the conversation with superdelegates as Barack asks for their support. Share your story to help persuade superdelegates now: http://my.barackobama.com/superdelegates I've received a lot of email from folks asking how best to help with the superdelegate effort, and this is it. Your note, combined with those of other Obama supporters, will tell the story of an extraordinary movement of ordinary people -- a story with a common thread of hope that becomes all the more powerful when it brings together the diverse backgrounds and experiences of our supporters. Together we're building something historic, and your story can help make someone else a part of it. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you, David David Plouffe Campaign Manager Obama for America Donate Paid for by Obama for America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 "The Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where Obama first attended school, enrollment documents, however, show Obama enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather. "Obama’s spokesman Robert Gibbs says he isn’t sure why the Catholic school document had Obama listed as a Muslim. Gibbs told AP, “Senator Obama has never been a Muslim.” While the spokesman is denying that Obama was never a Muslim, Obama, himself, has not publicly said he was never and is not now a Muslim." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Raymond Carroll Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Nancy Pelosi lays down the law, in favor of Obama. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate...;entry_id=24286 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie Hansen Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 While the spokesman is denying that Obama was never a Muslim, Obama, himself, has not publicly said he was never and is not now a Muslim." Maybe because apostates in Islam are to be killed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Deitche Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 There is a strong possibility that the presidential election will be between Barack Obama and John McCain. If so, who will the conservatives vote for? What about the Christian Right who do not seem to trust McCain. Will there be a third party candidate? Are the American people ready for a black president? With Romney's backing of McCain there is an attempt to rally the theocrats around McCain, but I doubt that will happen. One other point is that even during the primaries far more Democrats voted than Republicans; I think its the Democrats race to lose, regardless if Obama or Clinton is the nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Obama is backed by the Rockefeller interests and the CFR. I'm sure you have evidence to back this claim! Check Google. Jack Jack I'm still waiting for you to provide evidence for your claim, Brezinski endorsing Obama even IF true is not the same as him being "backed by the Rockefeller interests and the CFR" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 "The Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where Obama first attended school, enrollment documents, however, show Obama enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather."Obama’s spokesman Robert Gibbs says he isn’t sure why the Catholic school document had Obama listed as a Muslim. Gibbs told AP, “Senator Obama has never been a Muslim.” While the spokesman is denying that Obama was never a Muslim, Obama, himself, has not publicly said he was never and is not now a Muslim." If one goes to the source of Jack's quote one will see it is a site for bigotted Rightwing Christians. http://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2007/01/31/t...ered-as-muslim/ I imagine that when he said America wouldn't vote a Muslim he meant that HE wouldn't (even if that Muslim is currently a Protestant). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Obama is backed by the Rockefeller interests and the CFR. I'm sure you have evidence to back this claim! Check Google. Jack Jack I'm still waiting for you to provide evidence for your claim, Brezinski endorsing Obama even IF true is not the same as him being "backed by the Rockefeller interests and the CFR" Despite Criticism, Obama Stands By Adviser Brzezinski By RUSSELL BERMAN Staff Reporter of the Sun September 13, 2007 WASHINGTON — Senator Obama is standing by one of his top foreign policy advisers, Zbigniew Brzezinski, despite concerns that aligning with the former aide to President Carter will undermine Mr. Obama's support with the pro-Israel community. Mr. Brzezinski, who served as national security adviser in the Carter administration, introduced Mr. Obama before a major policy speech on Iraq yesterday in Iowa, where the Illinois senator praised his work on the Camp David Accords and called him "one of our most outstanding thinkers." Mr. Obama's embrace of Mr. Brzezinski has angered some supporters of Israel put off by Mr. Brzezinski's criticism of the Jewish state in recent years and his praise for the authors of a book that condemns the influence of the "Israel lobby." Mr. Obama's campaign has disavowed the book, "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy," by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt. A Harvard law professor and supporter of Senator Clinton, Alan Dershowitz, said Tuesday that Mr. Obama had "made a terrible mistake" by aligning with Mr. Brzezinski. A spokeswoman for the Obama campaign, Jennifer Psaki, yesterday pointed to the fact that Messrs. Brzezinski and Obama both opposed the Iraq war from the beginning, unlike Mrs. Clinton, and she suggested the Clinton camp was trying to smear Mr. Brzezinski. Given Mr. Brzezinski's opposition to the war, she said, "It's not terribly surprising that those who embraced the war would try to discredit him now." Ms. Psaki added: "Barack Obama has a strong record in support of a secure Israel and he will continue to foster a strong U.S.-Israel relationship when he is in the White House." The Clinton campaign declined comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Jack what part of "Brezinski endorsing Obama even IF true is not the same as him being "backed by the Rockefeller interests and the CFR" did you fail to understand? The article indicates that Brezinski is percieved as anti-Israel, I though the theory was that backing Israel was part of the CFR/MIC/PTB/NWO/MIBH/Skull and Bones/Illuminati etc agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stapleton Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 And the whiskey and hash smoke just keeps pourin' through around here like crap through a goose. Chemtrails, Satanic hand signals, the evil that Len Colby represents.........and "Obama-the-black-Muslim-trained-in-a-madrassa-but-owned-by-Big-Money-Interests" (Jewish interests, I wonder?). So in the interests of whoever has a longer attention span than the average sparrow, I once again post a link for informational purposes regarding false information being bandied about on Senator Obama:http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp Btw, my best guesstimate is that we'll have 4 years to look forward to of President McCain, the candidate with the removable spine Interesting link, Daniel. I agree there will be a mother of a smear campaign by the GOP if Obama wins the nomination. However, I don't agree with your conclusion. The internet has wised everyone up, and it's only taken a few years. I doubt Americans will fall for a phony smear this time. The internet (and recent history) has totally undermined the credibility of the neocon worldview. Foxnews looks like a B grade fifties sci-fi movie---but much less endearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Deitche Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 and "Obama-the-black-Muslim-trained-in-a-madrassa-but-owned-by-Big-Money-Interests" (Jewish interests, I wonder?). Big money, must be the Jews. What drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Guyatt Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 It is entirely possible I suppose that Brzenski is serving with Obama on a private level -- but I doubt it somehow. Brzezinski remains on the executive committee. The TC was a David Rockefeller creation as witnessed by him being listed as the "founder". Interesting to see that one of my old bosses, Herve "the Swerve" de Carmoy, is still a prominent Trilat. I think what we have here are the honest establishment crooks as opposed to the dishonest Texan crooks. I suppose being tucked-up by nice people doesn't feel quite so bad as being robbed by the "crazy bunch" of heartless gunslingers... But robbed you will be either way. http://www.trilateral.org/memb.htm Membership When the Trilateral Commission was first launched, the plan was for an equal number of members from each of the three regions. The numbers soon began to grow, and ceilings were imposed about 1980. These ceilings have been raised somewhat since then as new countries came to be represented in the groups. The European group, which includes members from Austria, Belgium, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Cyprus, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom, now has a ceiling of 160 members. The ceiling for the North American group is 120, including 20 Canadian members, 13 Mexican members and 87 U.S. members. In 2000, the Japanese group of 85 members expanded to become a Pacific Asian group of 96 members, and includes 57 members from Japan, 15 members from Korea, 8 from Australia and New Zealand, 16 from the original five ASEAN countries (Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore and Thailand). The new Pacific Asian group also includes participants from the People's Republic of China, Hong Kong and Taiwan. To help preserve the Commission’s unofficial character, members who take up positions in their national administration give up Trilateral Commission membership. New members are chosen on a national basis. The procedures used for rotation off and for invitation of new members vary from national group to national group. Three chairmen (one from each region), deputy chairmen, and directors constitute the leadership of the Trilateral Commission, along with an Executive Committee including 36 other members. The current full membership list is available by e-mail or by contacting any of the regional offices. Chairmen, Deputy Chairmen and Directors North American Chairman: THOMAS S. FOLEY Partner, Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, Washington DC; former U.S. Ambassador to Japan; former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives European Chairman: PETER SUTHERLAND Chairman, BP p.l.c., London; Chairman, Goldman Sachs International; Special Representative of the United Nations Secretary-General for Migrations; former Director General, GATT/WTO, Geneva; former Member of the European Commission; former Attorney General of Ireland Pacific Asian Chairman: YOTARO KOBAYASHI Chief Corporate Advisor, Fuji Xerox Co., Ltd., Tokyo North American Deputy Chairman: ALLAN E. GOTLIEB Senior Adviser, Bennett Jones LLP, Toronto, ON; Chairman, Sotheby's, Canada; former Canadian Ambassador to the United States North American Deputy Chairman: LORENZO ZAMBRANO Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, CEMEX, Monterrey, NL, Mexico European Deputy Chairman: HERVE DE CARMOY Chairman, Almatis, Frankfurt-am-Main; former Partner, Rhône Group, New York & Paris; Honorary Chairman, Banque Industrielle et Mobilière Privée, Paris; former Chief Executive, Société Générale de Belgique European Deputy Chairman: ANDRZEJ OLECHOWSKI Founder, Civic Platform; former Chairman, Bank Handlowy; former Minister of Foreign Affairs and of Finance, Warsaw Pacific Asian Deputy Chairman: HAN SUNG-JOO President, Korea University, Seoul; former Korean Minister for Foreign Affairs; former Korean Ambassador to the United States Pacific Asian Deputy Chairman: SHIJURO OGATA Former Deputy Governor, Japan Development Bank; former Deputy Governor for International Relations, Bank of Japan North American Vice Chairman: JOSEPH S. NYE, JR. Distinguished Service Professor at Harvard University, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Dean, John F. Kennedy School of Government; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs North American Director: MICHAEL J. O’NEIL European Director: PAUL RÉVAY Pacific Asia Director: TADASHI YAMAMOTO Former North American Chairmen: PAUL A. VOLCKER (1991-2001) Honorary North American Chairman DAVID ROCKEFELLER (1977-91) Founder and Honorary North American Chairman GERARD C. SMITH (1973-77) Former European Chairmen: OTTO GRAF LAMBSDORFF (1992-2001) Honorary European Chairman GEORGES BERTHOIN (1976-92) Honorary European Chairman MAX KOHNSTAMM (1973-76) Former Japanese Chairmen: KIICHI MIYAZAWA, Acting Chairman (1993-97) AKIO MORITA (1992-93) ISAMU YAMAxxxxA (1985-92) TAKESHI WATANABE (1973-85) Executive Committee Erik Belfrage, Senior Vice President, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken; Director, Investor AB, Stockholm C. Fred Bergsten, Director, Peterson Institute for International Economics, Washington DC; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs Georges Berthoin, International Honorary Chairman, European Movement; Honorary Chairman, The Jean Monnet Association; Honorary European Chairman, The Trilateral Commission Jorge Braga de Macedo, President, Tropical Research Institute, Lisbon; Professor of Economics, Nova University at Lisbon; Chairman, Forum Portugal Global; former Minister of Finance Zbigniew Brzezinski, Counselor, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington DC; Robert Osgood Professor of American Foreign Affairs, Paul Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University; former Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs François Bujon de l'Estang, Ambassadeur de France; Chairman, Citigroup France, Paris; former Ambassador to the United States Richard Conroy, Chairman, Conroy Diamonds & Gold, Dublin; Member of Senate, Republic of Ireland Vladimir Dlouhy, Senior Advisor, ABB; International Advisor, Goldman Sachs; former Czechoslovak Minister of Economy; former Czech Minister of Industry & Trade, Prague Bill Emmott, former Editor, The Economist, London Nemesio Fernandez-Cuesta, Executive Director of Upstream, Repsol-YPF; former Chairman, Prensa Española, Madrid Michael Fuchs, Member of the German Bundestag; former President, National Federation of German Wholesale & Foreign Trade, Berlin Antonio Garrigues Walker, Chairman, Garrigues Abogados y Asesores Tributarios, Madrid Toyoo Gyohten, President, The Institute for International Monetary Affairs; Senior Advisor, The Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi, UFJ, Ltd., Tokyo Stuart Harris, Professor of International Relations, Research School of Pacific and Asian Studies, Australian National University; former Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs, Canberra Carla A. Hills, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Hills & Company, Washington, DC; former U.S. Trade Representative; former U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Karen Elliott House, Writer, Princeton, NJ; Senior Fellow, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Senior Vice President, Dow Jones & Company, and Publisher, The Wall Street Journal Mugur Isarescu, Governor, National Bank of Romania, Bucharest; former Prime Minister of Romania Baron Daniel Janssen, Honorary Chairman, Solvay, Brussels Béla Kadar, Member of the Hungarian Academy, Budapest; Member of the Monetary Council of the National Bank; President of the Hungarian Economic Association; former Ambassador of Hungary to the O.E.C.D., Paris; former Hungarian Minister of International Economic Relations and Member of Parliament Lord Kerr of Kinlochard, Deputy Chairman and Senior Independent Non-Executive Director of Royal Dutch Shell; Member of the House of Lords; Director of Rio Tinto, the Scottish American Investment Trust, London; former Secretary General, European Convention, Brussels; former Permanent Under-Secretary of State and Head of the Diplomatic Service, Foreign & Commonwealth Office, London; former British Ambassador to the United States Sixten Korkman, Managing Director, The Research Institute of the Finnish Economy (ETLA) and Finnish Business and Policy Forum (EVA), Helsinki Count Otto Lambsdorff, Partner, Wessing Lawyers, Düsseldorf; Chairman, Friedrich Naumann Foundation, Berlin; former Member of German Bundestag; Honorary Chairman, Free Democratic Party; former Federal Minister of Economy; former President of the Liberal International; Honorary European Chairman, The Trilateral Commission, Paris Lee Hong-Koo, Chairman, Seoul Forum for International Affairs; former Prime Minister of Korea; former Korean Ambassador to the United Kingdom and the United States Marianne Lie, Director General, Norwegian Shipowners Association, Oslo Cees Maas, Honorary Vice Chairman of the ING Group and former Chief Financial Officer, Amsterdam; former Treasurer of the Dutch Government Roy MacLaren, former Canadian High Commissioner to the United Kingdom; former Canadian Minister of International Trade; Toronto, ON Minoru Makihara, Senior Corporate Advisor, Mitsubishi Corporation, Tokyo Sir Deryck C. Maughan, Managing Director and Chairman, KKR Asia, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co., New York, NY; former Vice Chairman, Citigroup Minoru Murofushi, Counselor, ITOCHU Corporation, Tokyo Indra K. Nooyi, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, PepsiCo, Inc., Purchase, NY Yoshio Okawara, President, Institute for International Policy Studies, Tokyo; former Japanese Ambassador to the United States Susan Rice, Senior Fellow, Foreign Policy Studies and Global Economy and Development Programs, Brookings Institution, Washington, DC; former Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs; former Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for African Affairs, National Security Council Luis Rubio, President, Center of Research for Development (CIDAC), Mexico City, DF Silvio Scaglia, Chairman, Fastweb, Milan; former Managing Director, Omnitel Guido Schmidt-Chiari, Chairman, Supervisory Board, Constantia Group; former Chairman, Creditanstalt Bankverein, Vienna Carlo Secchi, Professor of European Economic Policy and former Rector, Bocconi University; Vice President, ISPI, Milan; former Member of the Italian Senate and of the European Parliament Tøger Seidenfaden, Editor-in-Chief, Politiken, Copenhagen Petar Stoyanov, former President of the Republic of Bulgaria; Member of the Bulgarian Parliament; Chairman, Parliamentary Group of United Democratic Forces; Chairman, Union of Democratic Forces; Sofia Harri Tiido, Undersecretary for Political Affairs, Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Tallinn; former Ambassador of Estonia and Head of the Estonian Mission to NATO, Brussels George Vassiliou, former Head of the Negotiating Team for the Accession of Cyprus to the European Union; former President of the Republic of Cyprus, former Member of Parliament and Leader of United Democrats; Nicosia Paul Volcker, former Chairman, Wolfensohn & Co., Inc., New York; Frederick H. Schultz Professor Emeritus, International Economic Policy, Princeton University; former Chairman, Board of Governors, U.S. Federal Reserve System; Honorary North American Chairman and former North American Chairman, The Trilateral Commission Marko Voljc, Chief Executive Officer, K & H Bank, Budapest; former General Manager of Central Europe Directorate, KBC Bank Insurance Holding, Brussels; former Chief Executive Officer, Nova Ljubljanska Banka, Ljubljana Panagis Vourloumis, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Hellenic Tellecommunications Organization (O.T.E.), Athens Jusuf Wanandi, Vice Chairman, Board of Trustees; Centre for Strategic and International Studies, Jakarta Serge Weinberg, Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Accor; Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Weinberg Capital Partners; former Chairman Management Board, Pinault-Printemps-Redoute; former President, Institute of International and Strategic Studies (IRIS), Paris Heinrich Weiss, Chairman, SMS, Düsseldorf; former Chairman, Federation of German Industries, Berlin The full membership list is available by e-mail or by contacting any of the regional offices. 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Mark Stapleton Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 (edited) It is entirely possible I suppose that Brzenski is serving with Obama on a private level -- but I doubt it somehow. Brzezinski remains on the executive committee. The TC was a David Rockefeller creation as witnessed by him being listed as the "founder".Interesting to see that one of my old bosses, Herve "the Swerve" de Carmoy, is still a prominent Trilat. I think what we have here are the honest establishment crooks as opposed to the dishonest Texan crooks. I suppose being tucked-up by nice people doesn't feel quite so bad as being robbed by the "crazy bunch" of heartless gunslingers... But robbed you will be either way. http://www.trilateral.org/memb.htm Membership When the Trilateral Commission was first launched, the plan was for an equal number of members from each of the three regions. The numbers soon began to grow, and ceilings were imposed about 1980. These ceilings have been raised somewhat since then as new countries came to be represented in the groups. The European group, which includes members from Austria, Belgium, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Republic of Cyprus, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom, now has a ceiling of 160 members. The ceiling for the North American group is 120, including 20 Canadian members, 13 Mexican members and 87 U.S. members. In 2000, the Japanese group of 85 members expanded to become a Pacific Asian group of 96 members, and includes 57 members from Japan, 15 members from Korea, 8 from Australia and New Zealand, 16 from the original five ASEAN countries (Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore and Thailand). The new Pacific Asian group also includes participants from the People's Republic of China, Hong Kong and Taiwan. To help preserve the Commission’s unofficial character, members who take up positions in their national administration give up Trilateral Commission membership. New members are chosen on a national basis. The procedures used for rotation off and for invitation of new members vary from national group to national group. Three chairmen (one from each region), deputy chairmen, and directors constitute the leadership of the Trilateral Commission, along with an Executive Committee including 36 other members. The current full membership list is available by e-mail or by contacting any of the regional offices. Chairmen, Deputy Chairmen and Directors North American Chairman: THOMAS S. FOLEY Partner, Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, Washington DC; former U.S. Ambassador to Japan; former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives European Chairman: PETER SUTHERLAND Chairman, BP p.l.c., London; Chairman, Goldman Sachs International; Special Representative of the United Nations Secretary-General for Migrations; former Director General, GATT/WTO, Geneva; former Member of the European Commission; former Attorney General of Ireland Pacific Asian Chairman: YOTARO KOBAYASHI Chief Corporate Advisor, Fuji Xerox Co., Ltd., Tokyo North American Deputy Chairman: ALLAN E. GOTLIEB Senior Adviser, Bennett Jones LLP, Toronto, ON; Chairman, Sotheby's, Canada; former Canadian Ambassador to the United States North American Deputy Chairman: LORENZO ZAMBRANO Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, CEMEX, Monterrey, NL, Mexico European Deputy Chairman: HERVE DE CARMOY Chairman, Almatis, Frankfurt-am-Main; former Partner, Rhône Group, New York & Paris; Honorary Chairman, Banque Industrielle et Mobilière Privée, Paris; former Chief Executive, Société Générale de Belgique European Deputy Chairman: ANDRZEJ OLECHOWSKI Founder, Civic Platform; former Chairman, Bank Handlowy; former Minister of Foreign Affairs and of Finance, Warsaw Pacific Asian Deputy Chairman: HAN SUNG-JOO President, Korea University, Seoul; former Korean Minister for Foreign Affairs; former Korean Ambassador to the United States Pacific Asian Deputy Chairman: SHIJURO OGATA Former Deputy Governor, Japan Development Bank; former Deputy Governor for International Relations, Bank of Japan North American Vice Chairman: JOSEPH S. NYE, JR. Distinguished Service Professor at Harvard University, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Dean, John F. Kennedy School of Government; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs North American Director: MICHAEL J. O’NEIL European Director: PAUL RÉVAY Pacific Asia Director: TADASHI YAMAMOTO Former North American Chairmen: PAUL A. VOLCKER (1991-2001) Honorary North American Chairman DAVID ROCKEFELLER (1977-91) Founder and Honorary North American Chairman GERARD C. SMITH (1973-77) Former European Chairmen: OTTO GRAF LAMBSDORFF (1992-2001) Honorary European Chairman GEORGES BERTHOIN (1976-92) Honorary European Chairman MAX KOHNSTAMM (1973-76) Former Japanese Chairmen: KIICHI MIYAZAWA, Acting Chairman (1993-97) AKIO MORITA (1992-93) ISAMU YAMAxxxxA (1985-92) TAKESHI WATANABE (1973-85) Executive Committee Erik Belfrage, Senior Vice President, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken; Director, Investor AB, Stockholm C. Fred Bergsten, Director, Peterson Institute for International Economics, Washington DC; former U.S. Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs Georges Berthoin, International Honorary Chairman, European Movement; Honorary Chairman, The Jean Monnet Association; Honorary European Chairman, The Trilateral Commission Jorge Braga de Macedo, President, Tropical Research Institute, Lisbon; Professor of Economics, Nova University at Lisbon; Chairman, Forum Portugal Global; former Minister of Finance Zbigniew Brzezinski, Counselor, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington DC; Robert Osgood Professor of American Foreign Affairs, Paul Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University; former Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs François Bujon de l'Estang, Ambassadeur de France; Chairman, Citigroup France, Paris; former Ambassador to the United States Richard Conroy, Chairman, Conroy Diamonds & Gold, Dublin; Member of Senate, Republic of Ireland Vladimir Dlouhy, Senior Advisor, ABB; International Advisor, Goldman Sachs; former Czechoslovak Minister of Economy; former Czech Minister of Industry & Trade, Prague Bill Emmott, former Editor, The Economist, London Nemesio Fernandez-Cuesta, Executive Director of Upstream, Repsol-YPF; former Chairman, Prensa Española, Madrid Michael Fuchs, Member of the German Bundestag; former President, National Federation of German Wholesale & Foreign Trade, Berlin Antonio Garrigues Walker, Chairman, Garrigues Abogados y Asesores Tributarios, Madrid Toyoo Gyohten, President, The Institute for International Monetary Affairs; Senior Advisor, The Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi, UFJ, Ltd., Tokyo Stuart Harris, Professor of International Relations, Research School of Pacific and Asian Studies, Australian National University; former Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs, Canberra Carla A. Hills, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Hills & Company, Washington, DC; former U.S. Trade Representative; former U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Karen Elliott House, Writer, Princeton, NJ; Senior Fellow, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA; former Senior Vice President, Dow Jones & Company, and Publisher, The Wall Street Journal Mugur Isarescu, Governor, National Bank of Romania, Bucharest; former Prime Minister of Romania Baron Daniel Janssen, Honorary Chairman, Solvay, Brussels Béla Kadar, Member of the Hungarian Academy, Budapest; Member of the Monetary Council of the National Bank; President of the Hungarian Economic Association; former Ambassador of Hungary to the O.E.C.D., Paris; former Hungarian Minister of International Economic Relations and Member of Parliament Lord Kerr of Kinlochard, Deputy Chairman and Senior Independent Non-Executive Director of Royal Dutch Shell; Member of the House of Lords; Director of Rio Tinto, the Scottish American Investment Trust, London; former Secretary General, European Convention, Brussels; former Permanent Under-Secretary of State and Head of the Diplomatic Service, Foreign & Commonwealth Office, London; former British Ambassador to the United States Sixten Korkman, Managing Director, The Research Institute of the Finnish Economy (ETLA) and Finnish Business and Policy Forum (EVA), Helsinki Count Otto Lambsdorff, Partner, Wessing Lawyers, Düsseldorf; Chairman, Friedrich Naumann Foundation, Berlin; former Member of German Bundestag; Honorary Chairman, Free Democratic Party; former Federal Minister of Economy; former President of the Liberal International; Honorary European Chairman, The Trilateral Commission, Paris Lee Hong-Koo, Chairman, Seoul Forum for International Affairs; former Prime Minister of Korea; former Korean Ambassador to the United Kingdom and the United States Marianne Lie, Director General, Norwegian Shipowners Association, Oslo Cees Maas, Honorary Vice Chairman of the ING Group and former Chief Financial Officer, Amsterdam; former Treasurer of the Dutch Government Roy MacLaren, former Canadian High Commissioner to the United Kingdom; former Canadian Minister of International Trade; Toronto, ON Minoru Makihara, Senior Corporate Advisor, Mitsubishi Corporation, Tokyo Sir Deryck C. Maughan, Managing Director and Chairman, KKR Asia, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co., New York, NY; former Vice Chairman, Citigroup Minoru Murofushi, Counselor, ITOCHU Corporation, Tokyo Indra K. Nooyi, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, PepsiCo, Inc., Purchase, NY Yoshio Okawara, President, Institute for International Policy Studies, Tokyo; former Japanese Ambassador to the United States Susan Rice, Senior Fellow, Foreign Policy Studies and Global Economy and Development Programs, Brookings Institution, Washington, DC; former Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs; former Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for African Affairs, National Security Council Luis Rubio, President, Center of Research for Development (CIDAC), Mexico City, DF Silvio Scaglia, Chairman, Fastweb, Milan; former Managing Director, Omnitel Guido Schmidt-Chiari, Chairman, Supervisory Board, Constantia Group; former Chairman, Creditanstalt Bankverein, Vienna Carlo Secchi, Professor of European Economic Policy and former Rector, Bocconi University; Vice President, ISPI, Milan; former Member of the Italian Senate and of the European Parliament Tøger Seidenfaden, Editor-in-Chief, Politiken, Copenhagen Petar Stoyanov, former President of the Republic of Bulgaria; Member of the Bulgarian Parliament; Chairman, Parliamentary Group of United Democratic Forces; Chairman, Union of Democratic Forces; Sofia Harri Tiido, Undersecretary for Political Affairs, Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Tallinn; former Ambassador of Estonia and Head of the Estonian Mission to NATO, Brussels George Vassiliou, former Head of the Negotiating Team for the Accession of Cyprus to the European Union; former President of the Republic of Cyprus, former Member of Parliament and Leader of United Democrats; Nicosia Paul Volcker, former Chairman, Wolfensohn & Co., Inc., New York; Frederick H. 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It sounds like a defacto Corporate World Government, David. I think they could definitely influence Obama's choice of running mate. This, after all, is the key question of the thread, imo--despite all the bickering about other issues. They can extract undertakings from him through their leverage now, but when, or if, Obama becomes President, he might develop crazy notions about doing his own thing, like JFK. The running mate is their insurance, of course. Hope he's not Texan. Edited February 17, 2008 by Mark Stapleton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Raymond Carroll Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 The running mate is their insurance, of course.Hope he's not Texan. My guess is that he will be a she, and she will not be a Texan. Obama has been endorsed by numerous prominent women politicians, including two women Governors (Washington and Arizona). There may be a third woman governor that I can't recall offhand. America has never had a woman vice-president. I kinda like Chris Gregoire, governor of Washington state. http://www.governor.wa.gov/ Gregoire has never had a national profile up to now, but she would become an overnight sensation if chosen as VP and would undoubtedly galvanize women voters across party lines if McCain picks another white male as his running mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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