William Kelly Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) Miguel Mariano Cruz, 18 in 1963, was one of the Cubans arrested with Oswald in New Orleans for disturbing the peace. Since he was so young at the time, he could be alive today. At the time he lived at 2526 Mazant, Apt. C. Is he in any of the photos? Does anyone have any other information about him? Thanks, Bill Kelly bkjfk3@yahoo.com Edited April 16, 2009 by William Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 Miguel Mariano Cruz, 18 in 1963, was one of the Cubans arrested with Oswald in New Orleans for disturbing the peace.Since he was so young at the time, he could be alive today. At the time he lived at 2526 Mazant, Apt. C. Is he in any of the photos? Does anyone have any other information about him? Thanks, Bill Kelly bkjfk3@yahoo.com Here's a 17 year old kid, whose right in the thick of the whole New Orleans Cuban gumbo, is a friend of Bruinguier, is arrested with Oswald, and is probably still alive, yet we haven't heard a peep from him? BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Bill, Does anyone have any other information about him?Thanks, Bill Kelly It's interesting. He had two brothers who were married to a woman named, "Olga". http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=690693 Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted May 6, 2009 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 Bill,Does anyone have any other information about him?Thanks, Bill Kelly It's interesting. He had two brothers who were married to a woman named, "Olga". http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=690693 Steve Thomas Full name: Miguel Mariano Cruz Enriquez 22th Grade student Nichols High School, New Orleans. http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/w...H26_CE_3032.pdf There's also a number of references to him in Harold Weisberg's Oswald In New Orleans. http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/OINO_Index with links to docs that mention Cruz. BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Fokes Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Bill,Does anyone have any other information about him?Thanks, Bill Kelly It's interesting. He had two brothers who were married to a woman named, "Olga". http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=690693 Steve Thomas Full name: Miguel Mariano Cruz Enriquez 22th Grade student Nichols High School, New Orleans. http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/w...H26_CE_3032.pdf There's also a number of references to him in Harold Weisberg's Oswald In New Orleans. http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/OINO_Index with links to docs that mention Cruz. BK Also mentioned in Carlos Bringuier's book, Red Friday (1969) pp. 26-28. Celso, Cruz and Bringuier could not find the unknown "young American passing out pro-Communist literature" during their first search. Bringuier returned to the store "disappointed because we had not found the 'fidelista' when Miguel Cruz ran in to report that they had spotted the 'Communist' on Canal Street and that Celso was watching him in case he should move on to another location." Cruz and Bringuier proceeded to Canal St, met Celso, confronted Oswald and were taken to the Police Station by Lt. Gaillot. Regards, Peter Fokes, Toronto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 Bill,Does anyone have any other information about him?Thanks, Bill Kelly It's interesting. He had two brothers who were married to a woman named, "Olga". http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=690693 Steve Thomas Full name: Miguel Mariano Cruz Enriquez 22th Grade student Nichols High School, New Orleans. http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/w...H26_CE_3032.pdf There's also a number of references to him in Harold Weisberg's Oswald In New Orleans. http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/OINO_Index with links to docs that mention Cruz. BK Also mentioned in Carlos Bringuier's book, Red Friday (1969) pp. 26-28. Celso, Cruz and Bringuier could not find the unknown "young American passing out pro-Communist literature" during their first search. Bringuier returned to the store "disappointed because we had not found the 'fidelista' when Miguel Cruz ran in to report that they had spotted the 'Communist' on Canal Street and that Celso was watching him in case he should move on to another location." Cruz and Bringuier proceeded to Canal St, met Celso, confronted Oswald and were taken to the Police Station by Lt. Gaillot. Regards, Peter Fokes, Toronto Thank you for that Peter, I'm glad somebody is paying attention. And I think there's a lot more in Bringuier's book Red Friday than meets the eye. He also has an interesting chronology and the names of those anti-Castro Cubans who were left ashore by the Rex and other CIA raiders. Since Cruz was only a school kid at the time, there's a good probability he's still alive. And since Bringuier is still alive, he may not have to talk to Morley, but he would have to respond to a subpoena from Congress or a Grand Jury. Bringuier also has another important piece of evidence that was not entered into the WC exhibits, and should have - Oswald's USMC handbook, which he tried to pawn off on the internet for six figures. There's two living witnesses, Bringuier and Cruz who should be properly questioned. BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) Miguel Mariano Cruz, 18 in 1963, was one of the Cubans arrested with Oswald in New Orleans for disturbing the peace. Since he was so young at the time, he could be alive today. At the time he lived at 2526 Mazant, Apt. C. Is he in any of the photos? Does anyone have any other information about him? Thanks, Bill Kelly bkjfk3@yahoo.com Could that be the nearly 18-year-old Miguel Mariano Cruz following Carlos Bringuier out of the New Orleans court house at 3:43 of this Black Op Radio video? I can only assume that the tall thin man with the moustache and sunglasses following right behind him is 47-year-old Celso Hernandez, as he was arrested along with Bringuier and Cruz on 8/09/63. --Tommy Edited October 3, 2016 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) Miguel Mariano Cruz, 18 in 1963, was one of the Cubans arrested with Oswald in New Orleans for disturbing the peace. Since he was so young at the time, he could be alive today. At the time he lived at 2526 Mazant, Apt. C. Is he in any of the photos? Does anyone have any other information about him? Thanks, Bill Kelly bkjfk3@yahoo.com Dear Bill, Could that be the (almost) 18-year-old Miguel Mariano Cruz following Carlos Bringuier out of the New Orleans court house at 3:37 of this Black Op Radio video? (Warning: He's visible for only a split second.) He is shown again at 3:43. I can only assume that the short guy with the moustache following right behind him at 3:43 is 47-year-old Celso Hernandez Hernandes, as he was arrested along with Bringuier and Cruz an Oswald on 8/09/63. --Tommy Dear Bill, In his notes in the Baylor Archives, John Armstrong has your Miguel Cruz as "FBI Informant T-2". Note: Armstrong (carelessly, IMHO) lumps together the two filmed leafleting incidents (the 1st by 14 year-old Jim Doyle on 8/09/63, the 2nd by a New Orleans TV station on 8/16/63). http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/ref/collection/po-arm/id/48933/rec/11 Your Buddy, -- Tommy Edited October 4, 2016 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) Armstrong claims that Lee Oswald and Celso Hernandez were arrested in late 1961, whereas Simpich, in his article about the twelve men that built the Oswald legend claims the arrest, presumably the same one referred to by Armstrong, occurred in late 1962. Obviously there is a huge difference. Any pics of Celso Hernandez? Simpich says there appears to be two with the same name, one of who was possibly a Castro agent, the other anti-Castro DRE. Dear Paul, The bottom part was copied and pasted here from Bill Kelly's "Miguel Mariano Cruz" thread. [And now back here, again.] Now, if you read it carefully and follow the instructions I've provided in it, you'll see a short, mustachioed, light-colored suit wearing, middle-aged, Cuban-looking guy leaving the courthouse with Bringuer, and dark-suited, 17-year-old Cruz. Seeing as how Bringuier, Cruz, and Celso Hernandez were all arrested together on 8/09/63, it's reasonable to assume that they left the court house together, kinda hanging together like that for "moral support." Just a hunch, Paul, just a hunch. I believe I've read that the "Celso Hernandez" who was allegedly arrested 2 years earlier with "Oswald" was about 45 at the time. Going from memory here, Paul. Could that be the (almost) 18-year-old Miguel Mariano Cruz following Carlos Bringuier out of the New Orleans court house at 3:37 of this Black Op Radio video? (Warning: He's visible for only a split second.) He is shown again at 3:43. I can only assume that the short, sunglasses-wearing guy with the moustache following right behind him at 3:43 is the 47-year-old Celso Hernandez who was arrested along with Bringuier and Cruz and Oswald on 8/09/63. Here's the video, Paul: https://youtu.be/r6IvEZaX_Pg -- Tommy Edited October 4, 2016 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Found it. After the teenager there are two mustached men, short and tall. I can also see the powerful looking neck scratcher a bit later. Is his height consistent with Morales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) Found it. After the teenager there are two mustached men, short and tall. I can also see the powerful-looking neck scratcher a bit later. Is his height consistent with Morales? Really? You can? Where, exactly? (At what minute and second mark in the video?) Thanks, -- Tommy Edited October 4, 2016 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) At 3:55-3:59 Edited October 4, 2016 by Paul Brancato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) At 3:55-3:59 Dear Paul, Isn't that the video's segment I've been pointing out regarding "Neck Scratcher" for a couple of years now? -- Tommy PS We know that Morales was 5'10". Do you think "Neck Scratcher" is too tall to be Morales? Edited October 4, 2016 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Yes. Can't tell about height, but he looks muscular and taller than most around him. I think it could be right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Remind me why you think neck scratcher is Morales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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