Brennan's Suspicious Car

[Richard Hocking]

HOWARD L BRENNAN.gif

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There is something I have to mention, about two hours ago I found the only obituary I have ever seen for Howard Leslie Brennan, very short. Synchronicity, or whatever you want to call it, that there would be a new thread about him.

DMN 12/23/83 page 55a

obituary

Brennan, Howard L., 64 of Kemp, Kaufman County,

author of Eyewitness to the Kennedy Assassination and retired Katy Railroad steamfitter.

Services 11:00 a.m. Saturday. Anderson Clayton Bros. Chapel, Kemp

HOWARD LESLIE BRENNAN

OCCUPATION :

Steamfitter

LOCATION :

Wall Opposite Book Depository

Building

SOURCE OF SHOTS :

Book Depository

NUMBER OF SHOTS :

2

One or two things, although I don't have the book Harrison Livingstone's

book The Radical Right and the Murder of JFK, if I remember correctly

had a section where it was stated as fact that Brennan was employed

by Wallace & Beard Construction Co., I noticed that the brief obit,

made no mention of that. It would be good to get that information

settled one way or another.

The other matter has to do with the crossover on this thread

to the thread I have been posting on with reference to the video in

The Lost JFK Tapes.

See

Heavy Set, Middle Aged Man, Put in Car...

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8680&page=2

I cannot tell if there is overlapping

footage, or two different men wearing a hardhat

being escorted from the direction of the "retaining wall,"

as Brennan refers to where he was sitting when he heard

the shots; If there is overlapping footage in the film

being repeated then it is probably just H L Brennan being escorted

to the front top of the stairs of the TSBD. [There is a photo of

this on Pictures of the Pain page 502 + an accompanying

account regarding Brennan....."Among the cluster of photos

Murray made, one can observe Howard Brennan in a series

of three exposures...END

Murray's first photo at Elm and Main with the two crying

African-American women also has a photo of a man with a

hardhat, it seems obvious to me, he is not Brennan.

If it is two different persons, [i believe it is] then there is something

very odd to all of this this, 50 years worth of odd!

And I will tell you why, I am very familiar with the physical appearance of

Detective E. R. "Buddy" Walthers, he already had one area

that seemed to be obfuscated in the 1960's when he was

shown with, ostensibly the FBI's SA Robert M. Barrett

looking at where a bullet had hit in the middle median between

Elm and Main Street. In the Lost JFK Tapes

what I believe is Detective Walthers escorting a man in

a hardhat whose arms are behind his back and Walthers

is holding onto him at that same area. You cant see handcuffs

but it is because of the fact that a combination of the angle

and the very short amount of the sequence the viewer

sees, that accounts for that. There is another bizarre

clip in the same sequence of film where seemingly

a civilian or a plainclothes detective is escorting a young man

who is wearing slacks a white shirt, with a tie. No handcuffs

but it is all very odd.

Brennan's MFF Blurb has the following

BRENNAN, HOWARD LESLIE

Sources: WC Report (5, 63-4, 71, 143-5, 155, 250); WC VOL 3 (140-61, 184-6, 211); WC Vol 19 (470); WC Vol 24 (203, 406); CE 2006; CD 205, pp. 15-18; CD 329, pp. 7-8; Whitewash, Weisberg (66, 81, 90-5, 151, 188, 198); Rush to Judgment, Lane (11-2, 38, 83-4, 96-8, 100, 107-8, 140, 231, 262, 269-70, 275, 347, 384, 395-7); Cover-up, Shaw & Harris (158); Conspiracy, Summers (72, 109-10); Accessories After the Fact, Meagher (10, 12-3, 28, 78, 372, 397, 430); Assassination Tapes, O'Toole (7, 95-6); Best Evidence, Lifton (355); Who Killed Kennedy, Buchanan (128, 203); Oswald: Assassin or Fall Guy Guy, Joesten (47, 163, 173, 191-2); They've Killed the President, Anson (18, 61); Inquest, Epstein (135-6, 150); HSCA VOL II (3); HSCA VOL XI (226, 445-6, 448)

Mary's Comments: Sitting on wall at SW corner Elm & Houston. Gave description of man he saw firing at Kennedy. CD 205, p. 16: "he is identified herein as having furnished at this time a positive identification of OSWALD as the person who fired a rifle from the window of the TSBD on November 22, 1963." Nov. 1963 was employed as a steamfitter by Wallace & Beard Contractors in Oil and Gas Bldg., Dallas, TX. Died in Kemp, TX, Dec. 1983. Had written a book, "One Day in Dallas: Eyewitness to the Kennedy Assassination," with help of Methodist Minister Edward Cherryholmes (privately published.)

[emphasis added by T. Graves]

Robert,

FWIW, this is not a new thread as it was started by Bill Kelley on August 1, 2010. I just "renewed" it today because I noticed in the Weaver photo a car parked where the 1954 Chevrolet is shown parked the wrong way, in front of the DalTex Building, in other photos and film "captures" on this thread and the Oswald Leaving TSBD thread.

The "hard hat guy" talking with a policeman in the Murray photo (with the two crying Black women) is being listened to by the two mysterious "Rip Robertson" and "John O'Hare" characters who were earlier photographed standing on the Houston Street sidewalk, watching JFK and Jackie pass by. IMHO, if it really was Robertson and O'Hare, it would make sense that they were listening to (and perhaps "coaching") Howard Brennan. Brennan himself said that right after the assassination he spoke with policeman W. E. Barnett, and that (a few minutes later?) he started speaking with Secret Service man Forrest Sorrels. Is that possible? I thought Sorrels went to Parkland and was photographed leaving it with LBJ and Secret Service man Rufus Youngblood...

--Tommy

FWIW, Tommy ...

Sorrels is on record as not returning to the TSBD (from Parkland) until 12:55, when he entered the building through the rear door on the loading dock ...

[Robert Howard]

Good news. Today in some parts of the country the National Geographic Channel is re-broadcasting

The Lost JFK Tapes at 2:00 pm CDT. I also plan on adding to this thread, but have the flu right now,

in addition to being iced in at home.

I urge everyone to watch this program who can, it is better to believe your own eyes, than rely on what someone else says.

Although I stand by my assertions, regarding the footage.

[Thomas Graves]

HOWARD L BRENNAN.gif

photo courtesy of http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=47292337

There is something I have to mention, about two hours ago I found the only obituary I have ever seen for Howard Leslie Brennan, very short. Synchronicity, or whatever you want to call it, that there would be a new thread about him.

DMN 12/23/83 page 55a

obituary

Brennan, Howard L., 64 of Kemp, Kaufman County,

author of Eyewitness to the Kennedy Assassination and retired Katy Railroad steamfitter.

Services 11:00 a.m. Saturday. Anderson Clayton Bros. Chapel, Kemp

HOWARD LESLIE BRENNAN

OCCUPATION :

Steamfitter

LOCATION :

Wall Opposite Book Depository

Building

SOURCE OF SHOTS :

Book Depository

NUMBER OF SHOTS :

2

One or two things, although I don't have the book Harrison Livingstone's

book The Radical Right and the Murder of JFK, if I remember correctly

had a section where it was stated as fact that Brennan was employed

by Wallace & Beard Construction Co., I noticed that the brief obit,

made no mention of that. It would be good to get that information

settled one way or another.

The other matter has to do with the crossover on this thread

to the thread I have been posting on with reference to the video in

The Lost JFK Tapes.

See

Heavy Set, Middle Aged Man, Put in Car...

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8680&page=2

I cannot tell if there is overlapping

footage, or two different men wearing a hardhat

being escorted from the direction of the "retaining wall,"

as Brennan refers to where he was sitting when he heard

the shots; If there is overlapping footage in the film

being repeated then it is probably just H L Brennan being escorted

to the front top of the stairs of the TSBD. [There is a photo of

this on Pictures of the Pain page 502 + an accompanying

account regarding Brennan....."Among the cluster of photos

Murray made, one can observe Howard Brennan in a series

of three exposures...END

Murray's first photo at Elm and Main with the two crying

African-American women also has a photo of a man with a

hardhat, it seems obvious to me, he is not Brennan.

If it is two different persons, [i believe it is] then there is something

very odd to all of this this, 50 years worth of odd!

And I will tell you why, I am very familiar with the physical appearance of

Detective E. R. "Buddy" Walthers, he already had one area

that seemed to be obfuscated in the 1960's when he was

shown with, ostensibly the FBI's SA Robert M. Barrett

looking at where a bullet had hit in the middle median between

Elm and Main Street. In the Lost JFK Tapes

what I believe is Detective Walthers escorting a man in

a hardhat whose arms are behind his back and Walthers

is holding onto him at that same area. You cant see handcuffs

but it is because of the fact that a combination of the angle

and the very short amount of the sequence the viewer

sees, that accounts for that. There is another bizarre

clip in the same sequence of film where seemingly

a civilian or a plainclothes detective is escorting a young man

who is wearing slacks a white shirt, with a tie. No handcuffs

but it is all very odd.

Brennan's MFF Blurb has the following

BRENNAN, HOWARD LESLIE

Sources: WC Report (5, 63-4, 71, 143-5, 155, 250); WC VOL 3 (140-61, 184-6, 211); WC Vol 19 (470); WC Vol 24 (203, 406); CE 2006; CD 205, pp. 15-18; CD 329, pp. 7-8; Whitewash, Weisberg (66, 81, 90-5, 151, 188, 198); Rush to Judgment, Lane (11-2, 38, 83-4, 96-8, 100, 107-8, 140, 231, 262, 269-70, 275, 347, 384, 395-7); Cover-up, Shaw & Harris (158); Conspiracy, Summers (72, 109-10); Accessories After the Fact, Meagher (10, 12-3, 28, 78, 372, 397, 430); Assassination Tapes, O'Toole (7, 95-6); Best Evidence, Lifton (355); Who Killed Kennedy, Buchanan (128, 203); Oswald: Assassin or Fall Guy Guy, Joesten (47, 163, 173, 191-2); They've Killed the President, Anson (18, 61); Inquest, Epstein (135-6, 150); HSCA VOL II (3); HSCA VOL XI (226, 445-6, 448)

Mary's Comments: Sitting on wall at SW corner Elm & Houston. Gave description of man he saw firing at Kennedy. CD 205, p. 16: "he is identified herein as having furnished at this time a positive identification of OSWALD as the person who fired a rifle from the window of the TSBD on November 22, 1963." Nov. 1963 was employed as a steamfitter by Wallace & Beard Contractors in Oil and Gas Bldg., Dallas, TX. Died in Kemp, TX, Dec. 1983. Had written a book, "One Day in Dallas: Eyewitness to the Kennedy Assassination," with help of Methodist Minister Edward Cherryholmes (privately published.)

[emphasis added by T. Graves]

Robert,

FWIW, this is not a new thread as it was started by Bill Kelley on August 1, 2010. I just "renewed" it today because I noticed in the Weaver photo a car parked where the 1954 Chevrolet is shown parked in front of the DalTex Building, in other photos and film "captures" on this thread and the Oswald Leaving TSBD thread.

The "hard hat guy" talking with a policeman in the Murray photo (with the two crying Black women) is being listened to by the two mysterious "Rip Robertson" and "John O'Hare" characters who were earlier photographed standing on the Houston Street sidewalk, watching JFK and Jackie pass by. IMHO, if it really was Robertson and O'Hare, it would make sense that they were listening to (and perhaps "coaching") Howard Brennan. Brennan himself said that right after the assassination he spoke with policeman W. E. Barnett, and that (a few minutes later?) he started speaking with Secret Service man Forrest Sorrels. Is that possible? I thought Sorrels went to Parkland and was photographed leaving it with LBJ and Secret Service man Rufus Youngblood...

--Tommy

FWIW, Tommy ...

Sorrels is on record as not returning to the TSBD (from Parkland) until 12:55, when he entered the building through the rear door on the loading dock ...

Robert,

Thanks for the info on Sorrels. I'm starting to think that Brennan confused DPD Inspector Sawyer for Secret Service man Forrest Sorrels, as implausible as that may sound. I base my thinking here on two things. First, the fact that Brennan claimed to have started speaking with "Mr. Sorrels" a relatively short time after the assassination, but, as you have pointed out, Sorrels didn't get to the TSBD from Parkland until 12:55. Secondly, the guy that a hard-hat wearing guy (Brennan?) was photographed sitting next to in a police car in front of the TSBD is wearing a white policeman's hat and could very well be Sawyer, as pointed out by Richard Hocking in the Heavy Set, Middle-Aged Man Put in Police Car thread, post #21.

Thanks, Robert, keep up the good work, and I hope you start felling better soon.

--Tommy

Mr. BELIN. And then what happened, sir?

Mr. BRENNAN. He [the policeman] said, "just a minute." And he had to give some orders or something on the east side of the building on Houston Street. And then he had taken [sic] me to, I believe, Mr. Sorrels, an automobile sitting in front of the Texas Book Store [sic].

Mr. BELIN. And then what happened there?

Mr. BRENNAN. I related my information and there was a few minutes of discussion, and Mr. Sorrels had taken me [sic] then across the street to the sheriff's building.

Edited August 11, 2015 by Thomas Graves

[James Richards]

When Loran Hall and William Seymour were arrested in Dallas during October of 1963, they were driving a 1956 Oldsmobile.

[David Boylan]

Speaking of Bill Seymour, has his HSCA testimony ever been released?

[James Richards]

Hi David,

To be released in 2017 apparently.

James

[Richard Hocking]

Good news. Today in some parts of the country the National Geographic Channel is re-broadcasting

The Lost JFK Tapes at 2:00 pm CDT. I also plan on adding to this thread, but have the flu right now,

in addition to being iced in at home.

I urge everyone to watch this program who can, it is better to believe your own eyes, than rely on what someone else says.

Although I stand by my assertions, regarding the footage.

Robert,

I found the Hard hat man you referred to in the video. It happens around the 32 minute mark, and I agree it looks like Buddy Walthers is escorting him. In that scene, I cannot tell if he is hand cuffed. Roughly a minute earlier in the film, there is a film sequence that I believe shows the same event, but the cameraman is shooting out a window looking down from one of the upper floors of the TSBD. In that view, the hard hat man is not cuffed.

Amos Euins is also walking nearby, suggesting that the Hard hat man may be Brennan.

[Richard Hocking]

When Loran Hall and William Seymour were arrested in Dallas during October of 1963, they were driving a 1956 Oldsmobile.

Thanks for that one James.

[Robert Howard]

Regarding automobiles, off the top of my head, the only 1954 Chevrolet in the documents regarding Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963 was a black, four-door 1954 Chevrolet, which belonged to Buell Wesley Frazier, and was the car he and Oswald drove that day to the TSBD from Irving.

[Thomas Graves]

[...]

[...]

About that car again.

IS there any photo evidence of a 55-57 Olds parked near the TSBD illegally with a cop standing next to it talking to the driver?

BK

Bill,

Maybe Chris Davidson can help. There appears to be something parked by the TSBD in this Bell frame.

I'm pointing to the dark outline, not the white material.

Best to you,

Jerry

Jerry,

When you watch the Mark Bell film you realize that neither of the dark outlines in the frame you posted, above, are cars in the motorcade. So there must be two cars parked there. It looks like three of the two cars' four headlights are reflecting sunlight in the Robert Hughes film at 0:34.

I believe one of the dark outlines in the frame you posted is the green and white 1953 or 1954 Chevrolet that can be seen at 1:26, 1:55, and 2:24 of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uft-zC0ljU.

It looks like the other car has already left.

Note that is is parked at a slight angle some distance from the curb.

Credit: Don Cook.

Credit: Cook / Cooper Film? from Linda Giovanna Zambanini

Here it is in Bell 3 next to the red fire engine:

In good resolution copies of "large" Willis 15 or a Don Cook frame, I believe you can see a man sitting behind the steering wheel. You can barely make him out in this one in Willis 15 which I borrowed from the JFK Assassination Forum website:

It's also visible at 0:34 in the Robert Hughes film right before the limo turns onto Elm Street. Note that you can see three headlights shining or reflecting sunlight, indicating that there were two cars parked there.

And last but not least -- Robin Unger says you can split the frames from this GIF by using IrfanView. I have absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m635/quaneeri/Cook.gif

--Tommy

PS Linda Giovanna Zambanini has recently pointed out that USN Captain (and possible ONI officer) David A. Sooy, was, according to his obituary, parked by the TSBD, waiting for the motorcade to come by -- "When President John F. Kennedy was fatally shot in Dallas in November 1963, Capt. Sooy was sitting in his car, waiting for the presidential motorcade to pass the school depository." [emphasis added]

The interesting thing is that Capt. Sooy was a colleague of Frank Krystinik, a close friend of Michael Paine. Krystinik had gotten into an argument with Oswald at the ACLU meeting Paine had taken Oswald to.

Edited August 12, 2015 by Thomas Graves

[Thomas Graves]

Note that it is parked at a slight angle and pretty far from the curb.

Credit: Don Cook (via Robin Unger's photo collection at JFK Assassination Forum)

Edit:

What I'd like to know is where this light-colored Nash Rambler came from. Could it be travelling slowly down Elm Street in this photo? That's the DalTex building in the background, so this Murray photo was taken near the intersection of Elm and Houston, not far from where the '53 - '54 green and white Chevy was parked. I think Murray was using a long focal-length lens which "compressed" the space between the foreground and background. Note the stop light in the background on the right edge, and the "No Parking At Any Time" sign on the left edge in the foreground. That's Howard Brennan wearing khaki clothes and a hardhat in the background, looking up at the TSBD and talking with "Rip Robertson," "John Adrian O'Hare," a tall policeman who's wearing a white hat, and some other people, including a woman. What time was this photo taken? It must have been before Brennan spoke with Forrest Sorrels and then walked across the street with Amos Euins, Mr. Brehm and son, etc, to the Sheriff's Department to be interviewed. I believe the guy wearing overalls and the shiny hardhat in the foreground was "captured" with another construction worker in front of the TSBD front steps in the Hughes film.

I think the black women and Shiny Hardhat Guy are standing on the "island" across Elm Street Extention from the front entrance in this Murray photo.

--Tommy

Edited August 12, 2015 by Thomas Graves

[Robert Howard]

One thing I felt fairly certain about after viewing the aforementioned JFK program, was that there was more than one railroad worker, and/or man with hardhat that was regarded bythe police as a suspect. Then awhile later after posting on this thread, I stumbled onto a passage from "No More Silence," containing an interview with Union Terminal Railroad

employee Clemon Earl Johnson [pps. 79-83].

Since I can't write up the entire section, I will say....He mentions himself, S.M. Holland, Dodd, Sam Cox, Dudley Neath, two boys named Potter, Simmons, "Doc" Halbert and "others." The key portion of his interview is.......

.....After it [assassination]happened, I said, "Well, its all over now! Let's get back to the engines, because if we don't they'll all have us in jail right quick!"

They were gathering everybody up, and a fellow by the name of Dodd, and at that time our boss, Holland went running around to some bushes. They kept saying, "The shots came out

of those bushes! The shots came out of those bushes!"

They had turned to their left around into the street that came up beside the Book Depository Building which was put there for the benefit of the railroad. It was there because

that's where two of their towers that throw the switches for the trains were located, and that street always had to be there to give an opening in and out to the railroad, as

they owned that property all around there.

Anyway, Holland was our foreman out in the railroad. He and Dodd went around to those bushes and were taken into custody. And for that I understood they kept them in jail

until around midnight or after before they let them go. But Holland and Dodd, if both were living today, they'd almost fight you that they saw smoke coming from out of those

bushes........After the shooting, we stayed maybe just a minute. We then ran towards where the engines were as they were leaving at one o'clock. I was supposed to always be

there when the engines left to be sure they functioned right, and I had to ride them out. I guess the others were of the same opinion I was. They figured they might carry them in

because the police came running up on the railroad and just picked up everybody they could.

One last thing, I read Brennan's book, and he mentioned that he had a relationship by marriage to the wife or sister to the Shah of Iran, I really wanted to know if that was true or not because I felt it was important. I dug quite extensively, and never found one iota of evidence to support that claim.

Q: Why would somebody make up something like that?

Edited August 12, 2015 by Robert Howard

[Clive Largey]

That's Howard Brennan wearing khaki clothes and a hardhat in the background, looking up at the TSBD and talking with "Rip Robertson," "John Adrian O'Hare," a tall policeman who's wearing a white hat, and some other people, including a woman. What time was this photo taken? It must have been before Brennan spoke with Forrest Sorrels and then walked across the street with Amos Euins, Mr. Brehm and son, etc, to the Sheriff's Department to be interviewed. I believe the guy wearing overalls and the shiny hardhat in the foreground was "captured" with another construction worker in front of the TSBD front steps in the Hughes film.

I think the black women and Shiny Hardhat Guy are standing on the "island" across Elm Street Extension from the front entrance in this Murray photo.

Thomas,

despite what Murray himself said, I always thought it was late because of the women and the radio, like they have just learnt JFK is gone but I suppose an early report of shots fired at the motorcade could have produced that same reaction.

Murray passed the building on his way to the knoll and didn't come back up for maybe close to fifteen minutes or more(the clock on the TSBD is visible in one of his photos)?

So would the shadows change noticeably in that time? If so then we can place it close to Altgens like Murray said(four minutes or so). If not then someone might have an easier answer.

The short shadow under the sign and that of the fire escape under the window of the DT look very similar in Altgens.

[Thomas Graves]

That's Howard Brennan wearing khaki clothes and a hardhat in the background, looking up at the TSBD and talking with "Rip Robertson," "John Adrian O'Hare," a tall policeman who's wearing a white hat, and some other people, including a woman. What time was this photo taken? It must have been before Brennan spoke with Forrest Sorrels and then walked across the street with Amos Euins, Mr. Brehm and son, etc, to the Sheriff's Department to be interviewed. I believe the guy wearing overalls and the shiny hardhat in the foreground was "captured" with another construction worker in front of the TSBD front steps in the Hughes film.

I think the black women and Shiny Hardhat Guy are standing on the "island" across Elm Street Extension from the front entrance in this Murray photo.

Thomas,

despite what Murray himself said, I always thought it was late because of the women and the radio, like they have just learnt JFK is gone but I suppose an early report of shots fired at the motorcade could have produced that same reaction.

Murray passed the building on his way to the knoll and didn't come back up for maybe close to fifteen minutes or more(the clock on the TSBD is visible in one of his photos)?

So would the shadows change noticeably in that time? If so then we can place it close to Altgens like Murray said(four minutes or so). If not then someone might have an easier answer.

The short shadow under the sign and that of the fire escape under the window of the DT look very similar in Altgens.

Clive,

I'm convinced that it was early on, before Howard Brennan (in the background) had spoken with Forrest Sorrells (and then taken to the Sheriff's Department to make a statement), and my main concern is whether or not that Nash Rambler on Elm Street Extension behind the black women is moving. If so, it could be the one that Roger Craig saw "Oswald" get into. If Murray was using a fast shutter speed, it could be moving but look stationary in the photo.

--Tommy

Edit:

You can barely make out a white car parked in front of the TDBD steps in the background in this youtube frame. I think it's the light-colored Nash Rambler captured in the Murray photo in which the two black wo,en are hugging.

Edited August 21, 2015 by Thomas Graves

[Thomas Graves]

That's Howard Brennan wearing khaki clothes and a hardhat in the background, looking up at the TSBD and talking with "Rip Robertson," "John Adrian O'Hare," a tall policeman who's wearing a white hat, and some other people, including a woman. What time was this photo taken? It must have been before Brennan spoke with Forrest Sorrels and then walked across the street with Amos Euins, Mr. Brehm and son, etc, to the Sheriff's Department to be interviewed. I believe the guy wearing overalls and the shiny hardhat in the foreground was "captured" with another construction worker in front of the TSBD front steps in the Hughes film.

I think the black women and Shiny Hardhat Guy are standing on the "island" across Elm Street Extension from the front entrance in this Murray photo.

Thomas,

despite what Murray himself said, I always thought it was late because of the women and the radio, like they have just learnt JFK is gone but I suppose an early report of shots fired at the motorcade could have produced that same reaction.

Murray passed the building on his way to the knoll and didn't come back up for maybe close to fifteen minutes or more(the clock on the TSBD is visible in one of his photos)?

So would the shadows change noticeably in that time? If so then we can place it close to Altgens like Murray said(four minutes or so). If not then someone might have an easier answer.

The short shadow under the sign and that of the fire escape under the window of the DT look very similar in Altgens.

Clive,

I'm convinced that it was early on, before Howard Brennan (in the background) had spoken with Forrest Sorrells (and then taken to the Sheriff's Department to make a statement), and my main concern is whether or not that Nash Rambler on Elm Street Extension behind the black women is moving. If so, it could be the one that Roger Craig saw "Oswald" get into. If Murray was using a fast shutter speed, it could be moving but look stationary in the photo.

--Tommy

Edit:

You can barely make out the rear end of a white car parked in front of the TDBD steps in the background in this youtube frame. I think it's the light-colored Nash Rambler captured in the Murray photo in which the two black women are hugging.

edited and bumped

Edited August 21, 2015 by Thomas Graves