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Number 5: I do not know whether this will upload. It is an MPEG movie. If it will not load, I will do a screen grab

of several frames and post them.

I WAS NOT PERMITTED TO POST THE MOVIE. I WILL DO SCREENSHOTS AND RESUBMIT.

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Posted at Jim's request:

Number 1

Waste of time - has been explained again and again and again. Just because you don't accept reality does not mean I have to try and explain it to you over and over again.

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Number 2:

Wrong. Jack demonstrates his ignorance and inability to correctly analyse images. Why does Jim use him? Anyway, see my post here, which lists numerous examples of Jack being wrong, like:

http://www.clavius.org/shad15.html

http://www.clavius.org/trrnshdow.html

http://www.lunaranom...m/fake-moon.htm

http://www.badastron...o.html#parallel

http://www3.telus.ne...nshot/index.htm

There are numerous other examples of Jack being wrong:

photo04.jpg

IMG_1284.JPG

Other examples can be seen here, here, here, here, here, and here.

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No3 - So? What's the point? I can post diagrammes, too... but they won't mean anything unless you explain what they are and what they mean.

ETA: I presume 3 is related to 4?

Come on then Jim - explain it. Oh - and if you believe Jack is right with his No4 image, then you should post some proof (nasty word, I know), not just conjecture or speculation.

Edited by Evan Burton

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Number 5: Frame grabs from moon movie.

You are kidding, aren't you Jack? That's a joke from you, isn't it? You really have to put a smiley face or TIC if you are going to do stuff like that, otherwise people will think even less of your claims (if that is possible).

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It's not a debate - it's a massacre. You are just parroting Jack's claims without even understanding them, since you have little to no knowledge of the subject matter, and Jack's claim (since he refused to stand up for his own work) were demolished with ease.

Jim, you are just pulling your normal routine: bluster and accuse others, avoiding at all times actually getting into a solid debate. That image was a great example. Jack uses an image without permission, and the photographer tells us that you don't have permission to use it. Apart from the fact Jack couldn't tell the difference between quad bike tracks on a beach and LRV tracks on the lunar surface, all you had to do was contact the photographer and ask permission to use it. Your arrogance wouldn't permit you to stoop so low as to actually ask someone, though, would it? Instead more bluster, more complaints, no substance.

Go away Jim - you are a waste of my time.

Got yourself caught in a buzzsaw, eh champ? Suck-it-up! :ice

Fetzer and White a "buzzsaw"? Surely you jest.

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Guest James H. Fetzer

Evan Burton cannot resist abusing his position, no matter how grotesque the outcome. There is a pattern to the debate thread, which is that Jack posts images at my request, FIRST; then I lay out my argument, SECOND; and, at that point in time, Burton has the right to respond, THIRD. Of course, someone as zealous as Burton is not going to follow even the most obvious constraints on such an exchange but blatantly violate them as he chooses. His conduct, from the beginning, has been juvenile and obsessive and manipulative. To call him a "control freak" may be too mild a characterization. I have said that I was going to make a post, which I have yet to make. I asked Jack to post five images, which he has done. He notes that he is doing so at my request, as we have done before. But, as anyone who surveys this thread can see, time after time, this man has improperly intervened and abused his position. This is disgusting conduct, but precisely what I -- and others who have to deal with him -- have come to expect from Evan Burton. Later today I shall publish my final post on this thread. P.S. Time constraints today mean that my reply may actually be posted tomorrow.

Edited by James H. Fetzer

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If such rubbish is your "proof", then I've saved you a lot of time and typing, Jim. You should be thanking me.

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Guest James H. Fetzer

Like a homeowner should thank a burglar for relieving them of valuables they no longer have to move!

If such rubbish is your "proof", then I've saved you a lot of time and typing, Jim. You should be thanking me.

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You don't have a clue in this area and are way out of your depth, Jim, plus Jack thinks Apollo spoofs are real. If you have something that won't waste my time, please feel free to post it here. Otherwise, as the kids of today say, you've been pwned.

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Guest James H. Fetzer

Apologies for the delay in my response. Several events have intervened: the disappearance of "JFK and RFK: The Plots that Killed Them, The Patsies that Didn't" (from the JFK Assassination section of the forum); the release of the FBI files on Sen. Paul Wellstone, where I have created a new thread about him in the "Political Conspiracies" section; ongoing discussion of "RFK: Outing the CIA at the Ambassador"; plus ongoing discussion about Shane O'Sullivan and, of course, Judyth Vary Baker's book, ME & LEE, on the (mistitled) "LEE & ME" thread. I have begun my response, but it's taking more time than I planned.

Edited by James H. Fetzer

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Jim has asked me to copy this entire thread for offline study. He could not figure how to

do it. I tried but I cannot save it either. Can anyone here describe to me how to save

an entire thread to a computer for offline study?

Thanks!

Jack

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