Robin Unger Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) Towner Frame Edited October 29, 2010 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Hinrichs Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Willis 4 Robin, the photowizard. I neglected this photo completely and hadn't it even on my disk. Great Robin, thats it. As i saw the big concrete Colum in the background i knew we are getting into the Zapruder timespan. You know, i have my own plat in CAD from the Rosemary/Dorman Topic on Duncan's forum and i've checked the Line of sights from Willis POV and Bingo. After crosschecking the Towner film i come to the conclusion that Willis4 is equivalent to Zapruder 133-134. At 135 Connally began to turm his head too much to the right and Kennedy too much to the left. The position of Kennedy's right arm in Willis4 and Zapruder is a kind of fingerprint when you know the position of Phil Willis. I'am very confident. best to you Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) Willis 4 Robin, the photowizard. I neglected this photo completely and hadn't it even on my disk. Great Robin, thats it. As i saw the big concrete Colum in the background i knew we are getting into the Zapruder timespan. You know, i have my own plat in CAD from the Rosemary/Dorman Topic on Duncan's forum and i've checked the Line of sights from Willis POV and Bingo. After crosschecking the Towner film i come to the conclusion that Willis4 is equivalent to Zapruder 133-134. At 135 Connally began to turm his head too much to the right and Kennedy too much to the left. The position of Kennedy's right arm in Willis4 and Zapruder is a kind of fingerprint when you know the position of Phil Willis. I'am very confident. best to you Martin Thanks for the comments Martin. I assumed it had to be close, as Willis appears to be facing the middle of the limo ( car door )in Willis 4 Edited October 29, 2010 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) Martin As a side issue, while looking at the Towner frames i also noted that the limo tire seems to be well inside the white line. Edited October 29, 2010 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) As I was cruising the web I came across this image at mcadams website. It is a blowup of JFK's face taken by Tina Towners father as she was filming his reaction. He's smiling. Hi Duncan Towner photo showing only "half way" through the turn. Edited October 29, 2010 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Hagerman Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Robert You think JFK is "checking his head for damage"? I think Robert should be checking his own head for damage. Holy crap, Dean! Is this all Duncan let's you do? Can't you at least call me some names or post cartoon characters? What does Duncan have to do with me calling you out on your ultra lame theories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Something else i just noticed, the Towner photo needs to be rotated a few degrees anti clockwise. the limo appears to be going uphill, this would also correct the daltex wall Towner adjusted 4-degree's anti clockwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Hinrichs Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Martin As a side issue, while looking at the Towner frames i also noted that the limo tire seems to be well inside the white line. Agree Robin, in Towner, this is the first street stripe on Elm. You can see that in Zapruder 1-132. The Towner film ended well before Willis4 and Zapruder. best to you Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 (edited) SS Re-creation Showing approx towner limo position during the turn, and also the white lines on elm. also showing the traffic light seen in the Dorman frames. Edited October 29, 2010 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Hagerman Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 What does Duncan have to do with me calling you out on your ultra lame theories? Hi Dean, Bungling Bob has alleged on this forum, that I have recruited yourself, Robin, Martin and Bill, along with myself, to campaign as a team against his loopy theories. Bob I stand alone in going against your garbage theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Viklund Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Bob Harris, I've read your reasoning for a many years. Your dedication to this case is certainly not to be questioned. But Bob, are you alright - I've never seen you getting this personal or this seemingly angry before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Harris Posted October 29, 2010 Author Share Posted October 29, 2010 Bob Harris, I've read your reasoning for a many years. Your dedication to this case is certainly not to be questioned. But Bob, are you alright - I've never seen you getting this personal or this seemingly angry before? The question is not why do I complain about people who deliberately lie and harass legitimate researchers. The question is why does everyone else remain silent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 The question is not why do I complain about people who deliberately lie and harass legitimate researchers. The question is why does everyone else remain silent? There are two readly answers as to why people may remain silent ... 1) It is said that the difference between a smart man and a dumb one is that the dumb man cannot ever see when he is wrong .... so why say anything to that individual. 2) OCCAM'S RAZOR: a scientific and philosophic rule that entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily which is interpreted as requiring that the simplest of competing theories be preferred to the more complex or that explanations of unknown phenomena be sought first in terms of known quantities Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 (edited) Groden Z-139 Approximating the Willis 4 Timeline Edited October 30, 2010 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Bob Harris, I've read your reasoning for a many years. Your dedication to this case is certainly not to be questioned. But Bob, are you alright - I've never seen you getting this personal or this seemingly angry before? The question is not why do I complain about people who deliberately lie and harass legitimate researchers. The question is why does everyone else remain silent? Robert, The topic is too subjective. I recommend watching two videos if you haven't already, for footage of the motorcade. 1. JFK: The Lost Tapes 2.JFK: 3 Shots That Changed America I could easily say JFK is wiping sweat from his face as the motorcade proceeds. Right or wrong? Who knows!!! chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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