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We all wonder why Oliver Stone didn't get full license to tell the whole JFK story on PERMINDEX and their associations with Israel and British Intelligence, and especially the Montreal connections.

Two book writers collaborated to dig up the dirt on Milchan with their book called “Confidential: The Life of Secret Agent Turned Hollywood Tycoon Arnon Milchan,” written by Meir Doron and Joseph Gelman

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/18/business/global/new-book-tells-tale-of-israeli-arms-dealer-in-hollywood.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

New Book Recounts Tale of Israeli Agent at Home in Hollywood

New Book Recounts Tale of Israeli Agent at Home in Hollywood

Hugh Hamilton for The New York Times

Meir Doron, left, and Joseph Gelman wrote a book on Arnon Milchan, which says he at one point sold nuclear-triggering devices.

By MICHAEL CIEPLY

July 17, 2011

LOS ANGELES Never, never tell jokes about a man with easy access to weapons of mass destruction, Peter Chernin, a former News Corporation official, once light-heartedly warned of Arnon Milchan, who has long tantalized Hollywood with his dual identity as a producer of popular movies and a businessman tied to the arms industry.

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Chris Pizzello/Associated Press

Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie with Arnon Milchan, a producer of Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

Mr. Chernin may have been even more right than he knew.

Confidential: The Life of Secret Agent Turned Hollywood Tycoon Arnon Milchan, written by Meir Doron and Joseph Gelman, and set for publication on July 30 by Gefen Books, now holds that Mr. Milchan whose credits include Love and Other Drugs and Knight and Day at least through the mid-1980s was a full-fledged operative for Israels top-secret intelligence agency, Lakam. (The acronym is from the Hebrew for the blandly named Science Liaison Bureau.)

In that capacity, according to the book, Mr. Milchan supervised government-backed accounts and front companies that financed the special needs of the entirety of Israels intelligence operations outside the country.

The special needs serviced by Mr. Milchan, who is now 66 years old, included buying components to build and maintain Israels nuclear arsenal. But with the indictment in 1985 of Richard Kelly Smyth, an aerospace executive who had made illegal shipments of nuclear triggers through Milchan companies, Mr. Milchan unexpectedly found his arms-dealing in the news even as he was wrangling with Universal Pictures over the near collapse of a movie, Brazil, directed by Terry Gilliam.

Mr. Smyth became a fugitive. He was finally arrested in 2001, convicted and imprisoned. He was released on probation in 2005.

Mr. Milchan was not accused of wrongdoing, but the case drew scrutiny to his activities in the arms business even as he stepped up his film career under deals first at Warner Brothers, then at 20th Century Fox, whose parent company bought a stake in his Regency Enterprises. In the glow of friendships with the likes of Brad Pitt and Robert De Niro, speculation about his intrigues seemed to fade until a pair of unlikely biographers decided to figure out why Israel had been filtering a large part of its military budget through Hollywood hands.

Mr. Doron spoke recently over coffee at a patio cafe here, expressing puzzlement at Israels reliance on a middleman to broker deals that seemingly could have been made without the services of his Milchan Brothers umbrella company and affiliates.

He was flanked by Mr. Gelman, who sipped watermelon juice, and joined in explaining how the two who are brothers-in-law conceived of writing about Mr. Milchan, who had been vaguely identified in Israels press as the Chuck Norris of the Lakam. Mr. Gelman, who was born in the United States, had lived in Israel and served as a paratrooper during the 1982 war in Lebanon. Mr. Doron had been a writer and editor specializing in Israeli military issues.

Never having written together, they began culling public records and published accounts. Eventually, they met Mr. Smyth, who was by then living in Lompoc, Calif., and, with his story in hand, cobbled together a draft of their book before approaching Mr. Milchan.

Should I be concerned? Mr. Milchan asked during a first conversation by phone in 2009, Mr. Gelman said. A major worry, Mr. Gelman told him, was the impression that he had profited hugely from Israels security dilemmas.

I did it for my country, the money did not go to me, Mr. Gelman recalled Mr. Milchan explaining, when the three later met, and began a series of sessions that went on for six months.

Mr. Milchans disclaimer about profiteering provoked further research into how various companies set up by Mr. Milchan or associated with Milchan Brothers traded in arms for Israel and other countries. While doing so, he set aside money in accounts for use by Israel, allowing that countrys prime minister to execute decisions beyond Israels borders without the need for the formal budgeting, cabinet approvals, petty internal politics, or leaks to the press that might endanger the operation.

In the end, the book was not authorized by Mr. Milchan. The account was based partly on interviews with the likes of Shimon Peres, the Israeli president who, according to the book, acknowledged having recruited Mr. Milchan as a clandestine operative.

Confidential was sold to Gefen Publishing by David Kuhn, a literary agent who was previously an editor at Brills Content and The New Yorker. Its narrative follows Mr. Milchan through his first acquaintance with the arms business via his fathers company, through his introduction to Israels nuclear program by Mr. Peres and the Lakam chief, Benjamin Blumberg.

After the 1973 Yom Kippur war, Mr. Milchan began acquiring both big-ticket conventional weapons and krytrons, devices that can trigger nuclear bombs. In the middle of it all, he was introduced to the film business by Elliott Kastner, now deceased, the American producer with whom he collaborated on a 1977 picture, The Stick-Up.

Mr. Milchan thought the movie bad enough to remove his credit but he immediately backed another film, Black Joy, that appeared at the Cannes Film Festival. By the early 1980s, Mr. Milchan was a force in Hollywood, with a growing string of credits on films like The King of Comedy and Once Upon a Time in America, both with Mr. De Niro and the movies soon became not just convenient cover, but a full-blown second career.

In the late 1990s, the News Corporation, which owns Fox, paid $200 million for a 20 percent stake in Mr. Milchans Regency Enterprises. A News Corporation spokeswoman, Teri Everett, had no immediate response to a query about the companys reason for backing Mr. Milchan, and about any reaction by its chief executive, Rupert Murdoch, to revelations in the new book. (Mr. Milchans latest film for Fox, the comedy Monte Carlo, opened to soft reviews and modest prospects a few weeks ago.)

Asked whether Mr. Milchan would discuss the book, his executive assistant, Jane Bulmer, said he was traveling and out of reach. But, Ms. Bulmer said in an e-mail, Mr. Milchan had told her that he has not read the book and does not plan on commenting on any unauthorized books that have been written about him.

As for Mr. Milchans current status with Israeli intelligence, Mr. Gelman and Mr. Doron declined to venture a guess. We really dont know with certainty, Mr. Gelman said.

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We all wonder why Oliver Stone didn't get full license to tell the whole JFK story on PERMINDEX and their associations with Israel and British Intelligence, and especially the Montreal connections.

Two book writers collaborated to dig up the dirt on Milchan with their book called “Confidential: The Life of Secret Agent Turned Hollywood Tycoon Arnon Milchan,” written by Meir Doron and Joseph Gelman

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/18/business/global/new-book-tells-tale-of-israeli-arms-dealer-in-hollywood.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

New Book Recounts Tale of Israeli Agent at Home in Hollywood

New Book Recounts Tale of Israeli Agent at Home in Hollywood

Hugh Hamilton for The New York Times

Meir Doron, left, and Joseph Gelman wrote a book on Arnon Milchan, which says he at one point sold nuclear-triggering devices.

By MICHAEL CIEPLY

July 17, 2011

LOS ANGELES — “Never, never tell jokes about a man with easy access to weapons of mass destruction,” Peter Chernin, a former News Corporation official, once light-heartedly warned of Arnon Milchan, who has long tantalized Hollywood with his dual identity as a producer of popular movies and a businessman tied to the arms industry.

Enlarge This Image

Chris Pizzello/Associated Press

Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie with Arnon Milchan, a producer of “Mr. and Mrs. Smith.”

Mr. Chernin may have been even more right than he knew.

“Confidential: The Life of Secret Agent Turned Hollywood Tycoon Arnon Milchan,” written by Meir Doron and Joseph Gelman, and set for publication on July 30 by Gefen Books, now holds that Mr. Milchan — whose credits include “Love and Other Drugs” and “Knight and Day” — at least through the mid-1980s was a full-fledged operative for Israel’s top-secret intelligence agency, Lakam. (The acronym is from the Hebrew for the blandly named Science Liaison Bureau.)

In that capacity, according to the book, Mr. Milchan supervised government-backed accounts and front companies that financed “the special needs of the entirety of Israel’s intelligence operations outside the country.”

The “special needs” serviced by Mr. Milchan, who is now 66 years old, included buying components to build and maintain Israel’s nuclear arsenal. But with the indictment in 1985 of Richard Kelly Smyth, an aerospace executive who had made illegal shipments of nuclear triggers through Milchan companies, Mr. Milchan unexpectedly found his arms-dealing in the news even as he was wrangling with Universal Pictures over the near collapse of a movie, “Brazil,” directed by Terry Gilliam.

Mr. Smyth became a fugitive. He was finally arrested in 2001, convicted and imprisoned. He was released on probation in 2005.

Mr. Milchan was not accused of wrongdoing, but the case drew scrutiny to his activities in the arms business even as he stepped up his film career under deals first at Warner Brothers, then at 20th Century Fox, whose parent company bought a stake in his Regency Enterprises. In the glow of friendships with the likes of Brad Pitt and Robert De Niro, speculation about his intrigues seemed to fade — until a pair of unlikely biographers decided to figure out why Israel had been filtering a large part of its military budget through Hollywood hands.

Mr. Doron spoke recently over coffee at a patio cafe here, expressing puzzlement at Israel’s reliance on a middleman to broker deals that seemingly could have been made without the services of his Milchan Brothers umbrella company and affiliates.

He was flanked by Mr. Gelman, who sipped watermelon juice, and joined in explaining how the two — who are brothers-in-law — conceived of writing about Mr. Milchan, who had been vaguely identified in Israel’s press as the “Chuck Norris of the Lakam.” Mr. Gelman, who was born in the United States, had lived in Israel and served as a paratrooper during the 1982 war in Lebanon. Mr. Doron had been a writer and editor specializing in Israeli military issues.

Never having written together, they began culling public records and published accounts. Eventually, they met Mr. Smyth, who was by then living in Lompoc, Calif., and, with his story in hand, cobbled together a draft of their book before approaching Mr. Milchan.

“Should I be concerned?” Mr. Milchan asked during a first conversation by phone in 2009, Mr. Gelman said. A major worry, Mr. Gelman told him, was the impression that he had profited hugely from Israel’s security dilemmas.

“I did it for my country, the money did not go to me,” Mr. Gelman recalled Mr. Milchan explaining, when the three later met, and began a series of sessions that went on for six months.

Mr. Milchan’s disclaimer about profiteering provoked further research into how various companies set up by Mr. Milchan or associated with Milchan Brothers traded in arms for Israel and other countries. While doing so, he set aside money in accounts for use by Israel, allowing that country’s prime minister “to execute decisions beyond Israel’s borders without the need for the formal budgeting, cabinet approvals, petty internal politics, or leaks to the press that might endanger the operation.”

In the end, the book was not authorized by Mr. Milchan. The account was based partly on interviews with the likes of Shimon Peres, the Israeli president who, according to the book, acknowledged having “recruited” Mr. Milchan as a clandestine operative.

“Confidential” was sold to Gefen Publishing by David Kuhn, a literary agent who was previously an editor at Brill’s Content and The New Yorker. Its narrative follows Mr. Milchan through his first acquaintance with the arms business via his father’s company, through his introduction to Israel’s nuclear program by Mr. Peres and the Lakam chief, Benjamin Blumberg.

After the 1973 Yom Kippur war, Mr. Milchan began acquiring both big-ticket conventional weapons and krytrons, devices that can trigger nuclear bombs. In the middle of it all, he was introduced to the film business by Elliott Kastner, now deceased, the American producer with whom he collaborated on a 1977 picture, “The Stick-Up.”

Mr. Milchan thought the movie bad enough to remove his credit but he immediately backed another film, “Black Joy,” that appeared at the Cannes Film Festival. By the early 1980s, Mr. Milchan was a force in Hollywood, with a growing string of credits on films like “The King of Comedy” and “Once Upon a Time in America,” both with Mr. De Niro — and the movies soon became not just convenient cover, but a full-blown second career.

In the late 1990s, the News Corporation, which owns Fox, paid $200 million for a 20 percent stake in Mr. Milchan’s Regency Enterprises. A News Corporation spokeswoman, Teri Everett, had no immediate response to a query about the company’s reason for backing Mr. Milchan, and about any reaction by its chief executive, Rupert Murdoch, to revelations in the new book. (Mr. Milchan’s latest film for Fox, the comedy “Monte Carlo,” opened to soft reviews and modest prospects a few weeks ago.)

Asked whether Mr. Milchan would discuss the book, his executive assistant, Jane Bulmer, said he was traveling and out of reach. But, Ms. Bulmer said in an e-mail, Mr. Milchan had told her “that he has not read the book and does not plan on commenting on any unauthorized books that have been written about him.”

As for Mr. Milchan’s current status with Israeli intelligence, Mr. Gelman and Mr. Doron declined to venture a guess. “We really don’t know with certainty,” Mr. Gelman said.

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The Stone JFK FILM got funding from Canal Plus headed by Andre Rousslet. Rousslet came from Havas. Havas has been under Rothschild influence/control since the year 1835.With a screenplay ambitious enough for two movies and a budget that doubled what Stone initially proposed at $40 million, producer Arnon Milchan came on board with financial support from investors based in France (Le Studio Canal+) and Germany (Alcor Films). JFK film producer Mr. Michan BTW seems to have been MOSSAD asset.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/hollywood-producer-was-an-israeli-nuclear-agent-1.373867

Canal Plus was the creation of André Rousselet, president of the French media and advertising giant Havas. While some observers were surprised that the top publicity group in France would become involved in a medium that needed no outside publicity, Havas hoped that the innovative move would open up a potentially profitable market. Rousselet decided to launch a subscription television channel in November 1984 to offer the French public an alternative to the comedies and variety shows typically featured on the three government-owned channels then in existence. Contending that no one would pay for television programming, critics dubbed the company “Canal Minus.”

In fact, subscriptions were extremely low at the onset, and the company announced first year losses of FFr 330 million. Moreover, some politicians, including Laurent Fabius, France’s prime minister, were not in favor of commercial television and petitioned for a retraction of the Canal Plus broadcasting license. Rousselet, however, was a personal friend, golf partner, and former chief of staff of President François Mitterand; he was able to acquire a government concession that gave Canal Plus an all but official monopoly on subscription television.

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Who cares?

The producer (the money bags behind the film)of JFK is an Israeli Arms Dealer

How does that effect or change the film in any way?

I have the answer for you Mr Phelps..... IT DOESN'T!

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Where are these MOSSAD movie producers today?

Why won't they be as courageous as they were with Stone and JFK and back documentary films or major motion pictures based on the works of Summers, Dick Russell, James Douglas?

Why are other projects getting millions of dollars in funding but those who write the truth can't get their words off the page and onto film?

Is it really a Jewish Conspiracy?

I don't think so.

BK

JFKcountercoup.blogspot.com

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Guess lots of the answer depends on if you consider Nimrod's religion, and later Babylon's teachings under Nebuchanezzar to be Hebrew oriented in theme. After all, Nimrod was Noah's kinship, and a really bad defiler of the god concepts. Plus considered a raging tyrant.

Most of the problems stem from pretenders to be followers of god. The real or benevolent stewards god theme got lost sometime around the times of the Babylon captivity and the hatching of the Babylon Talmud.

In these old times there were constant disagreements amoung those Jewish in orientation, and the Nothern Israel 10 tribes fell pretty fast, leaving only the Pharisee and their fortification. This remainder were called the Snakes, those of Satanic orientation, the Synagog of Satan.

The ten Northern Tribes of Israel did not get along with the Pharisee, and were considered quite distinct. In a later time, the Nothern Essenes around Mt. Carmel did not get along with the Pharisee either. And they became hated by the Pharisee. Every one of the Jesus Disciples seems to have died believing in the Essene's teachings.

All the issues of the Northern Essene met a similar fate as the Pharisee went after them over the issues with Jesus. So they scattered around Europe. Some to France, others to England. And in later times the Knights Templars ran to Scotland.

I do think the insights provided by this old history come into play as to what is Jewish and the extent of those that follow and know talmudic issues:

http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon.html

Lots of the problems track back to the new set of walls with British and European Castles and who gets to control the Vatican and Rule the kingdoms.

There isn't much difference between the British Royals, the German banker games, and the old temple's Pharisee.

The roots of the problems lie in Talmudic Babylon teachings, and the modern day issue manifests itself in the British faked up Royalty. It is all about money and who gets to run the show.

The very same show was running in Rome in the old times and ruined the Eastern Roman Empire over usury and wars:

http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon.html

JFK, in the more recent USA era, got in the way of their money games. JFK obviously detected the US was being exploited and was well on the way to ending that game.

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Where are these MOSSAD movie producers today?

Why won't they be as courageous as they were with Stone and JFK and back documentary films or major motion pictures based on the works of Summers, Dick Russell, James Douglas?

Why are other projects getting millions of dollars in funding but those who write the truth can't get their words off the page and onto film?

Is it really a Jewish Conspiracy?

I don't think so.

BK

JFKcountercoup.blogspot.com

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So Bill this info not in JFK movie ?? Cause Canal Plus $funders$ of JFK movie Rothschild connected ?? (FROM HARLEYROBOT blogspot)

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Some secrets for you Rothschild/Permindex connections LINK http://somesecretsforyou.blogspot.com/2010/05/permindex-papers-ii.html

EXCERPT:

In April 1rst 1959, Louis Bloomfield sent three communications that reveal both Stanley Vineberg and Edmund Rothschilds links to Permindex. In a first cable, he urged Georges Mantello to have his son Enrico provide legal and fiscal documentation to someone called Pereire, in order for him to be able to inspect a property. Other documents in the Bloomfield Archives give the full identity of this Pereire as being François Pereire from the Compagnie Financière, a private Paris bank in which Edmund de Rothschild is the principal shareholder. In the same message, Bloomfield informed Mantello that Vineberg is expecting him in Montreal with satisfactory documentation. This statement clearly indicates that attorney Stanley Vineberg, of the Phillips, Bloomfield, Vineberg & Goodman law firm was exercising an authority greater then BloomfieldsSome secrets for you Rothschild/Permindex connections LINK http://somesecretsforyou.blogspot.com/2010/05/permindex-papers-ii.html

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Permindex branches out

In 1956, Permindex, apparently representing a group of American business interests, decided to move into Europe and set up in Basle, Switzerland. Two private companies were created under the auspices of the Permindex mother company: Building Finance and Parkhof. Parkhof however went bankrupt following a massive scandal, following which Permindex left Basle and moved to Rome where it set itself up as the World Trade Centre, Centro Mondiale Comerciale or CMC as it was known, before relocating to South Africa. The move from Europe to South Africa was almost certainly prompted by the failed assassination of Frances president, General Charles De Gaulle.

De Gaulles intelligence staff traced the financing of his attempted assassination back to Permindex in Switzerland and from there to CMC in Rome. Furious, De Gaulle complained to both the Swiss and Italian governments who revoked Permindexs charter

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Clay Shaw was arrested on March 1st. On the 4th the Italian newspaper Il Paese Sera (referred to henceforth as IPS) carried an article on the Garrison enquiry which focused on the alleged activities of Clay Shaw. IPS claimed that Shaw was one of the directors of the Rome World Trade Centre (Centro Mondiale Commerciale -- aka CMC); that CMC was used as a conduit by the CIA for subsidies to anti-Communist groups; that CMC had links with the Italian Fascists; that CMC was affiliated with Permindex (Permanent Industrial Exhibitions); that Permindex had been expelled from Switzerland because of (undisclosed) criminal activities; that Permindex had financed the efforts of the OAS in France; and that CMC closed because of the publicity it had attracted and had relocated in Johannesburg, South Africa.

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The PERMINDEX connection to the Bush power moves.

Paravicini Bank and Permindex

In the same year that Zapata and Pennzoil were moving toward hostile takeovers, a new Swiss bank opened in Houston with J. Hugh Liedtke and George Bush's securities adviser, W.S. Farish III, among the directors. Called "Bank for Investment and Credit Berne" (BICB), its stock was owned by Capital National Bank and Paravicini Bank, but investors included Seagrams, Boeing, Minute Maid in Zurich, the London subsidiary of Brown and Root and the Schlesinger Organization of London and Johannesburg. These investors are more than interesting in light of the fact that Paravicini is a descendant of the Venetian Pallavicini family, whose attorney in Rome,

Carlo d'Amelio, was the general counsel to Centro Mondiale Commerciale (CMC),

the Italian arm of Permindex. CMC was incorporated in Berne Switzerland, and D' Amelio sat on the board of directors during the time that Seagrams' attorney, Louis Mortimer Bloomfield of Montreal, was chairman of Permindex.

When the role of CMC in the attempted assassination of President DeGaulle of France was discovered, it fled Europe and re-emerged in Johannesburg, South Africa. However, the parent company, Permindex, continued to be managed from Montreal by Bloomfield. Clay Shaw, the man prosecuted in New Orleans by Jim Garrison for his role in the Kennedy assassination, was also a board member of CMC, with which his International Trade Mart had connections.

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of course .......

Dinkin, Eugene B. American soldier in Germany, claims to have picked up on the assassination plot from Army Security Agency monitor of OAS, the Algerian French Generals, went AOL and tried to inform American ambassador. See : Russell, Dick, TMWKTM.

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Edgar Bronfman knew Stanley Vineberg (see above PERMINDEX). Bronfman married into the Loeb family in 1953. The Kuhn & Loeb family controlled Empire Trust which had its own private CIA. Empire Trust has JFK assassinations connections (see DALLAS COINSPIRACY PD SCOTT). The Kuhn-Loeb family worked with "banking wise with the Rothschilds". Coinspiracy researchers consider Kuhn-Loeb/Rothschild two of the eight families that started the FEDERAL RESERVE. .....JFK moved against the FEDERAL RESERVE in the summer of 1963.

Born

Edgar Miles Bronfman

June 20, 1929 (1929-06-20) (age 82)

Montreal, Quebec

Nationality Canadian

Occupation Businessman

Net worth US$2.6 billion (2011)[1]

Spouse Ann Loeb (1953-1973)

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Since April 2010, I have posted on this forum documents that I have unearthed from the Louis M. Bloomfield Archives held by Library and Archives Canada (LAC). Those documents dealing with Permindex were posted under a Louis Mortimer Bloomfield thread (Louis M. Bloomfield thread) that was started in 2006 at a time were I shared with members of The Education Forum the news relating to the legal battle I engaged with LAC and the Canadian government in order to make the Louis M. Bloomfield opened.

Today, Im starting this new Bloomfield, Permindex and the CIA thread because I believe that the JFK assassination researchers should take a new look at the Permindex issue under the enlightening information contained in the E. Howard Hunt death bed confession. At a first level, Hunts confession pointed a finger at President Johnson and Cord Meyer, but what may be the more interesting piece of information from Hunt is his description of the operational aspect of the JFK conspiracy, in which he implicated William Harvey, who in 1963 was Chief of CIA station in Rome, the city where Permindex and Centro Mondiale Commerciale (CMC) were located.

E. Howard Hunt, who also specified that Bill Harvey organized the assassination from Rome and hired Corsican sharpshooters, was thus giving us an important missing link necessary to understand how an Italian corporation as Permindex could be related to the JFK conspiracy. As of now, only Clay Shaw could be related to this Italian company since he was a member of CMC directorship.

Documents found in the Bloomfield Archives gave us more details on the structure and leadership of Permindex. For instance, they show that Ferenc Nagy was the active leader of Permindex and, in 1960, was making contact with David Rockefeller in order to develop the New York Citys World Trade Center on the model of the CMC.

When we combine the E. H. Hunts revelation, the information form the Bloomfield archives and some little known documents released by NARA under the JFK documents program, we start to sketch a coherent picture in which the JFK assassination seems to be carried by (rogue?) members of the CIA using Permindex as part of the Italian Gladio network put in place to combat Soviet Communism.

What is the most convincing document indicating that Permindex was put at CIAs disposition is a Central Intelligence Agency memo addressed to the HSCA and declassified in the mid-1990; a document that doesnt seem to have been published anywhere yet and that I found on the fantastic Marry Ferrel website. This CIAs memo dated 3/24/67 (that I reproduced in the text below) flatly states: NAGY, Ferenc, (…) was a cleared contact of the International Organizations Division. His 201 file contains a number of references to his association with the World Trade Center.

And:

The attached documents are related to an investigation of Permindex initiated in 1959. This was the result of a query from NAGY asking if CIA would be interested in using Permindex in some capacity. The documents did not indicate whether or not CIA decided to use Permindex.

It is hard to believe that the CIA, engaged in an epic battle to counter Communism in Italy, and active in organizing its Gladio network, would say no to "a query from NAGY asking if CIA would be interested in using Permindex in some capacity".

Following is the last post I have published on my blog at Some Secrets for You and that discuss the Ferenc Nagy-CIA-Permindex links. The previous post exposed a Louis Bloomfields letter indicating that Nagy and Bloomfield were in discussion with David Rockefeller to create the New York Citys World Trade Center on the model of Permindex and the Centro Mondiale Commerciale. From what I know (and I would appreciate if you have other info on this subject), it is the first time that Rockefeller is linked to Nagy and Permindex, and through them to the CIA.

Your comments and views on this topic are welcome.

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THE PERMINDEX-CIA LINK II

PART 2: FERENC NAGY: THE CIA MAN IN PERMNDEX

Who is really this Dr. Ferenc Nagy that exercised a leadership position in Permindex? The fact is that this little known individual was an international figure which is recognized to have played a major role on the international scene.

In 1946, after the war, Ferenc Nagy was elected Prime Minister of Hungary in this country first democratic election. At the same time, he also acted as Hungarian Minister of Defence. Opposed to Communism, he was forced to resign his position after his 5 years old son was kidnapped, and immigrated to the United States. Shortly after his arrival in the US, Nagy co-wrote an essay on his political career, titled The Struggle behind the Iron Curtain that was published by MacMillan in 1948. Royalties from this book help him buy a 130 acres farm in Herndon, Virginia. Those acreages of land, situated West of Washington D.C., gain significantly in value in 1958 when the Eisenhower administration choose to establish what is now Dulles International Airport just West of Herndon.

In Washington, Nagy kept important ties with the US government and the CIA during the Cold War. In 1956, Nagy and the CIA were accused by the Soviets of being behind the Hungarian uprising. A November 8th 1956 New York Times dispatch reported:

Soviet propaganda outlets reported today that the uprising in Hungary has been financed by the Western Powers and that advance plans had been approved by the "highest circles" in the United States. (…) The allegation of outside planning and support for the uprising against the Hungarian government was contained in a report from Vienna broadcast by the Moscow radio tonight. This named Ferenc Nagy, former Hungarian premier and [international] Peasant Union leader ..., as the key figure in the supposed plot against the regime. The report said that Mr. Nagy met with Hungarian emigres in Munich "not long before the beginning of the rebellion in Hungary." He was alleged to have told them that he had just come from the United States where plans for the revolt had been "agreed upon in the highest circles." Mr. Nagy is also alleged to have worked out plans for supporting the revolt with arms and supplies in agreement with "American Organizations."

Such activities are the reason why Nagy was described as a long-time asset of CIA Deputy Director of Plans, Frank Wisner, who in 1956 pressured President Eisenhower to intervene in Hungary after URSS intervention. Wisner was the creator of a CIAs organization that concentrated on "propaganda, economic warfare; preventive direct action, including sabotage, anti-sabotage, demolition and evacuation measures; subversion against hostile states, including assistance to underground resistance groups, and support of indigenous anti-Communist elements in threatened countries of the free world." In the 1990s, those kinds of activities will be revealed of being part of the NATO Stay Behind operation, after Italian authorities discovered the existence of the Gladio network in this country.

Oddly enough, Permindex was incorporated in Basle in 1956, the same year when Ferenc Nagy travelled to Germany and Switzerland on the eve of the Hungarian uprising. It is certainly not by pure chance that Nagy, Wisner CIAs asset, choose this busy period of his life to become one of Permindexs directors. In all evidence, Nagy proximity with the CIA and the fact that at the same time he associated with Permindex is enough to let us conclude that Permindex was related to Wisners anti-Communist crusade, in as much that it was directed by Nagy, one of CIAs important collaborators in its anti-Soviet operations. Also, the facts that the Italian Gladio network was revealed to be coupled with the P2 freemasonic lodge and that Bloomfield described Permindexs George Mantello as a 33rd degree Freemason, tend to indicate that Permindex may be intricated with the CIAs Italian Gladio network.

But, if we need a more official and explicite proof of the Nagy-Permindex-CIA linkage we can found it in writing in a CIA document transmitted to the House Select Committee on Assassination (HSCA) and released by the US National Archives in the middle of the 1990s. This CIAs memo dated 3/24/67 indicated that:

NAGY, Ferenc, (…) was a cleared contact of the International Organizations Division. His 201 file (i.e. its CIA personal file) contains a number of references to his association with the World Trade Center.

The memo concluded on those words: The attached documents are related to an investigation of Permindex initiated in 1959. This was the result of a query from NAGY asking if CIA would be interested in using Permindex in some capacity. The documents did not indicate whether or not CIA decided to use Permindex.

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(Source for this document: the Mary Ferrel Foundation Web site at : Marry Ferrel website. See also Clay Shaw doc ) that make reference to this document and also states that Hunter Leake was the CIAs contact with Clay Shaw and that Shaw was official source contacted on 30 occasions between 1949 and 1956.)

It is hard to believe that the CIA, engaged in an epic battle to counter Communism in Italy, and active in organizing its Gladio network, would say no to "a query from NAGY asking if CIA would be interested in using Permindex in some capacity". Most probably, "The documents did not indicate whether or not CIA decided to use Permindex because the answer was to obvious!

After the failure of the Hungarian uprising, Nagy became active in other CIA anti-communist projects, particularly those concerning Latin America and Cuba. Nagy eventually moved to Dallas, Texas where he was residing in 1963, allegedly engaged in anti-Castro activities.

It is worth keeping in mind that Frank Wisner, Ferenc Nagys CIA controller, was the superior of William Harvey and Cord Meyer, two of the CIA men that were implicated in the JFK assassination by CIA officer E. Howard Hunt in his death bed confession. In 1962, Bill Harvey, after an important conflict with the Kennedys, was exiled to Italy where he became Chief of Station in Rome. According to Hunt, Harvey organized JFKs assassination from Rome and recruited Corsican sharpshooters to accomplish the President execution.

To further document the relationship between Nagy-Permindex and the JFK assassination, it is also important to know that Ferenc Nagy was identified as someone that had visited Guy Banister's detective office in New Orleans by Bannister's secretary. The private eye was an ex-FBI agent that was directing anti-Castro activities in Louisiana and was related to Lee Harvey Oswald and Clay Shaw.

In conclusion, what we now learn from documents of the Bloomfield Archives is that Dr. Nagy was the initiator of contacts with David Rockefeller at the beginning of year 1960, and that Rockefeller did collaborate with Permindex and CMC in order to speed up the development of his World Trade Center organization.

The facts

1) that the Bloomfield letters show Nagy, the CIA cleared contact, as an autonomous Permindex decision maker in this relation with such important personality as David Rockefeller;

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2) that the ex-Hungarian did offer the Central Intelligence Agency to use Permindex in 1959, tend to demonstrate that Nagy was in command of Permindex and willing to use it to fulfil CIAs objectives, or those of rogue CIAs officers like William Harvey.

Thus, if we give credence to E. Howard Hunts confession to the effect that Bill Harvey planned the JFK assassination from Rome, the connexion between Clay Shaw and the Roman CMC become of the utmost interest.

According to some reports, Clay Shaw, the New Orleans businessman who was in contact with Lee Harvey Oswald and who was accused by Jim Garrison of conspiracy in the JFK assassination, only joined Rome CMCs directorship in 1962. There is a strong probability that documents from the Bloomfield Archives dating from years 1961 to 1963 can clarify the circumstances in which Shaw joined CMC and Permindex. But we wont know before a few years if the Louis Bloomfield Archives contain such information, that because Library and Archives Canada (LAC) --against its donators will-- is actually keeping secret the Permindex documents that are less than 50 years old, on pretext that they contain information that are protected by a client-attorney privilege.

This pretext seems quite frivolous when we consider that the above Bloomfields letter to Dr. Imfeld was kept secret until 2010 for this same reason. Yet, this letter was sent in Carbon copies (CC) to two other correspondents, and even by a blind CC, that is by hiding to Dr. Imfeld that a secret correspondent was copied on the letter. Furthermore, Dr. Imfeld wasnt lawyer Bloomfields client but one of his associates in Permindex, and Canadian jurisprudence is clear on the effect that documents from a lawyer acting as a companys associate or manager arent protected by professional secret. That any competent archivist could declare such a letter covered by an attorney-client secret is nonsense.

The poor judgement that is at the origin of LACs decision to keep secret an important part of the Bloomfield Archives, that could contain information on the activities of Permindex, Ferenc Nagy, and Clay Shaw in years 1961 to 1963, is depriving the world of important information about the JFK assassination.

Just as the Louis Bloomfield Archives for the first timedocumented the relation between Ferenc Nagys Permindex and David Rockfellers WTC, the other Bloomfield documents kept secret by Library and Archives Canada against their donators will may well contain exclusive information on the relationship between Ferenc Nagy, Clay Shaw and Permindex. The JFK assassination being definitely one of the most important historic events of the Twentieth Century, it is deplorable that a national historical institution like Library and Archives Canada locks its doors on such documents.

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So far none of the forum’s resident anti-Semites provided an iota of evidence Stone let the funders effect the content of the film or that they even tried. I can’t imagine the director bowing to such request. Nor has evidence of Rothschild control of Havas been presented. It should also be noted that Milchan raised money from non-Jewish sources more than he provided his own.

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I always found it rather interesting that the "George Mandel" name was used by a Rothschild. Just very odd that the 33rd Degree Mason Mandel (aka Matello) and a Rothschild use the same last name:

http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon-3.html

And according to Eric Samuelson, Jeroboam Rothschild represented France in the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 under a Gentile surname. Also located in Paris was the Prieuré de Sion.

“Beer was the American expert on colonial questions at the Peace Conference in Paris. With Lord Eustace Percy, he drew up the plan for the History of the Peace Conference which was carried out by Harold Temperley. The British Round Table group served at the conference as advisers to Prime Minister David Lloyd George. [The real behind- the-scene experts at the Paris conference included M. (Georges) Mandel (real name Jereboam Rothschild) (France), Phillip Sassoon (1888-1939) (England) and Bernard Baruch (U.S.).] Beer was named head of the Mandate Department of the League of Nations as soon as it was established.” (Mystery Man: George Louis Beer)

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More interesting concepts from old religion history of Middle East and of Europe:

http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon.html

In the New Testament, in His message to the Church at Smyrna, the Lord Jesus Christ referred to a “synagogue of Satan” as “them which say they are Jews, and are not.” In other words, there was a synagogue of Israel that was not Jewish:

“I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.” (Rev. 2:9-10)

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It seems that Jews were also infiltrating the churches, bringing their false doctrines with them; as Paul stated, these Jews were “false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage.” (Gal. 2:4) It is likely Paul anticipated that the Judaizing heresy, which had appeared in Corinth and Galatia, would eventually manifest in other churches, and especially in Rome, the center and seat of earthly power and government. For this reason, the doctrinal position of the Christian community in Rome, whose power and influence was destined only to increase, would carry great weight in deciding the Judaizing controversy. This may explain why Paul’s epistle to the Romans was a defense of the fundamental doctrine of “the righteousness which is of faith” as contrasted with the Jewish concept of righteousness which is “of the law”.

“For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth... That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” (Rom.10:2-4,9)

Tragically, before his departure from Ephesus to Jerusalem, whence he would appeal to appear before Caesar in Rome, Paul prophesied that the Christian churches would be infiltrated by heretics, chief among whom were the Judaizers.

For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.” (Acts 20:20)

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There was also a thriving Jewish community in the area which became the Vatican. According to “The Vatican & Rome as elements of apocalyptic discourse”: “The origins of the ‘Cittá del Vaticano’ are as an unpleasant neighborhood outside the city walls populated by Jews and beginning in the first century by (Jewish) Christians and still later by the persecuted Gentile converts to the Christian sect.” The Latin word “Vatican” means “divining serpent” (see Papal Crest Dragon):

“The word ‘Vatican’ literally means ‘Divining Serpent,’ and is derived from Vatis=Diviner and Can=Serpent. Vatican City and St. Peter’s Basilica were built on the ancient pagan site called in Latin vaticanus mons or vaticanus collis, which means hill or mountain of prophecy. Coins minted in Vatican City often bear the inscription ‘CITTÁ DEL VATICANO’, which means City of Prophecy.” (The Wine of Babylon)

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brothers, who converted from Judaism and became priests of the Catholic Church, in one of their works, which merits meditation, wrote:

“‘O Israelites of Rome, we understand the attitude of our people. If you are conceded the right of possession which you invoke, we wager that, within thirty to fifty years from now, Rome will be in your hands.’ (ff. Rome et les juives. ‘Rome and the Jews’)

“And so the prophecy came to pass. The city of Rome fell quickly into the abyss, and was economically and materially subjugated to the Jews, as were all of the major cities of the great nations of Europe.” (La Civilta Cattolica)

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It was Constantine the Great whose Edict of Milan in 313 ended the persecution of Christians and legalized the worship of Jesus Christ. At the same time, Constantine also obstructed Jewish ascendancy in the Roman Empire.

“The Jewish position in Rome began to deteriorate during the reign of Constantine the Great (306-336), who enacted laws limiting the rights of Jews as citizens... Some of the relevant decrees in these codes include prohibitions against making proselytes, intermarriage, owning slaves (slave labor was very common and this prohibition severely restricted the economic life of the Jews), holding any esteemed position in the Roman state, building new synagogues and testifying against Orthodox Christians in court.” (Jewish Virtual Library)

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The Great Efforts to Control the Vatican---most likely a history that JFK would encounter as a Catholic. The efforts to control the Church of Rome came on strong after the fall of the 2 nd temple. It was most important to control the churhc for matters of money and the issues for Kings and Emperor making. Then the age old issues of who was Holy and Who was not came into play and the essential same issues that beset the 10 tribes differences and those of the Northern Essene. This war to control the Vatican became a 2,000 year old effort. At the root of it all is the book of Enoch from the Essense's records, and the issues of bloodlines of Angels. In the end, the Jesus and Essene theology is the most Pious and is supposed to overcome the Synagog of Satans games for control of Church and conquests of power with usury. JFK, as a Catholic, stepped right dead center into this battle for control.:

http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon-2.html

If Judaizers played a major role in the formation and establishment of the Roman Catholic Church, is it possible that Roman Catholicism was a Jewish project from the beginning? There is, in fact, a long and fascinating history of Jewish infiltration of the Roman Catholic Church which has been nonetheless, and by clever design, perceived as a Gentile institution. If Roman Catholicism was a project of Cabalist Jews for the purpose of subverting Christianity, it is conceivable that this Judaized Church has functioned for nearly two millennia as a covert branch of Judaism, whose handlers gradually and imperceptibly shifted Western Christendom to more advanced stages of apostasy than was possible during the vigilant period of the early Church when ecumenical councils convened to combat heresy, rather than to embrace it. At the present time it can be safely stated that the Roman Catholic Church is a merely a front for Judeo-Freemasonry to draw apostate Christendom into the messianic kingdom of the Antichrist.

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During the Middle Ages, the infiltration and conquest of Christendom was achieved by two methods. The Inquisition, which started in Spain in 1478, forced multitudes of Jews to renounce Judaism and to embrace Catholicism; these converts were called Conversos. Conversos typically went through the motions of the Roman Catholic religion, but remained Jews inwardly and practiced their Jewish rites in the privacy of their homes.

Other Jews, called Marranos (swine), feigned conversion to Christianity and practiced Roman Catholicism outwardly, while practicing Judaism, or Cabalism, privately. A number of Marranos took positions in the clergy. The motive of Conversos was self-preservation; the Marranos, destruction of the Church and all things Christian. The result of these parallel operations was the Jewish occupation of the Roman Catholic Church and its transformation into MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. The King James translation of Revelation 17 describes MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT as the great whore and that great city which sits upon seven mountains (v.9).

And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters... So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration... The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth... And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues... And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

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In 750 A.D., a document titled The Donation of Constantine was discovered which proclaimed that the Pope was Christs elected representative on Earth with the power to create kings as his subordinates. (Keep in mind that the Merovingians now controlled the papacy.) In 751, the provisions of this document, supposedly signed by Constantine, were put into effect by the Vatican, and the pope gave permission to Pepin III, the Mayor of the Palace of Austrasia, to take the Frankish crown from Dagoberts nephew, Childeric III. Pepin became the first Carolingian King of the Franks and was succeeded in 768 by his sons Carloman and Charles I who was later called Charlemagne. The Merovingian dynasty was terminated in 800 A.D. with the papal coronation of Charlemagne, who became the Holy Roman Emperor.

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Another piece of the jigsaw is that the Grand Masters of the Prieuré de Sion changed their surnames to obscure their Jewish origins. For example, Jeroboam Rothschild was a member of this secret cabal.

Not all members of the Prieuré de Sion, [Jean Luc Chaumeil] said, were Jewish. This implication of this apparent non sequitor is obvious -- that some members of the order, if not indeed many, are Jewish. (Holy Blood, Holy Grail, p. 223)

The Prieuré de Sion - the Elders of Sion also relates to the Rothschilds who are reported to serve on a Jewish council of Elders of Sion... For instance, Armstrong, the Rothschild Trust, p. 196, That is the present objective of Jeroboam Rothschild and his secret Elders of Zion. - 77:152,163

The British Round Table group served at the [Paris Peace] conference as advisers to Prime Minister David Lloyd George. [The real behind- the-scene experts at the Paris conference included M. (Georges) Mandel (real name Jeroboam Rothschild) (France), Phillip Sassoon (1888-1939) (England) and Bernard Baruch (U.S.).] 539

Russell Barnes...wrote: 'Some years ago I was in contact with the author Sinclair Traill... He wore a sturdy gold ring...[with] an unusual motif which at first glance appeared to be a column. He said the ring and its motif were associated historically with his Sinclair [st. Clair] forbearers, a name preserved by use as his Christian name. - 96:84

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And it gets a little deeper as to how long this battle for just who and what is Divine. One of the most valued of the Essene's keeping is the Book of Enoch, which tells of the Fallen Angels, and from that many suggest the issue of the right to Divine heritage and rule. Then the fall out begins as to who is Satan and who are the Angels. The roots of religion are truely sordid. And in digging around one can find why the Vatican and the "Mafia" (aka "The Family") are so entrenched together. JFK stepped right into the middle of this millenia old battle for power and control.:

http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon-3.html

The Merovingian dynasty were the masterminds behind the Renaissance: “René [d’Anjou] was the Angevin monarch who, at the time of the renaissance, single-handedly spearheaded a Hermetic revival in Europe. It was he who personally convinced Cosimo de Medici to translate many ancient texts such as the Corpus Hermeticum into various European tongues for the first time ever... The Angevins were primarily advocates of the Regia, or Royal Art, of hermeticism; a tradition which according to legend was passed down to man by a race of fallen angels.”

Anjou (pronounced “an Jew”!) was a Jewish province in France. The term “Angevin” or “Angevine” is the name applied to two distinct medieval dynasties that originated from Anjou. Angevin/Angevine is also associated with angels, which may explain why this Jewish bloodline had more than just a passing interest in the writings of the Nephilim. The Angevins were a senior branch (angel + vine) of the Merovingian bloodline whose members viewed themselves as divine descendants of the fallen angels of Genesis 6. The Jesus-Mary Magdalene bloodline heresy is really the exoteric doctrine of the Merovingian race, and an occult blind for religious masses; the esoteric doctrine, known only to the initiated, is the descent of the Merovingian race from the fallen angels of Genesis 6. Which explains why the founder of the dynasty, King Merovee, is said to have been sired by mysterious sea beast, Pallas or i.e. the beast out of the sea, per Rev. 13:1. A book titled King John 1167-1216 by W. L. Warren, depicts the Angevins as literally having demonic ancestry:

“The violent temper of the Angivins, their vicious reaction being thwarted, was almost pathological in its intensity... ‘From the Devil they came’, growled St. Bernard, ‘and to the Devil they will return.’ There were many who agreed with him. Popular gossip told of their descent from a devilish ancestress...”

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The Prieuré de Sion is the secret society in Paris which oversees all other secret societies. It is the mysterious Illuminati, which had its origins in the Society of Ormus which was birthed in Alexandria, Egypt, whence it relocated to Calabria, Italy. (The terms Illuminati and Ormus both mean “illumined” or “enlightened.”) These were the Calabrian monks who, in 1070 AD, removed to Ardennes Forrest in France, and settled on the domains of Godfroi de Bouillon on land owned by St. Bernard of Clairvaux, founder of the Cistercians and author of the Rule of the Templars. A procession of “Illuminati” is discernible throughout history, from ancient Egypt, whence the apostate Jews (Therapeutae and Essenes) of Alexandria founded schools of Gnosticism.

A recent PBS documentary about the infamous Medici family was titled “The Medici: Godfathers of the Renaissance.” According to the series, the Medici were the original Mafia which rose to power with all the finesse of Italian mobsters.

“The Medici didn’t start out as the most powerful family in Italy. Other families were just as rich, and just as ambitious. But no one knew more about getting ahead - and staying ahead - than the Medici. They clawed their way to the top, sometimes through bribery, corruption and violence. Those who stood in their way could end up humiliated - or dead... Governing Florence like a medieval mafia, the power of the Medici stretched all the way to Rome, where even the papacy was something to be bought and sold. They were the Godfathers of the Renaissance.

“The Medici created a lucrative partnership with another medieval power, the Catholic Church. In what had to be one of the most ingenious enterprises of all time, the Medici bank collected 10% of your earnings for the Church. If you couldn’t pay, you faced excommunication - a one-way ticket to hell. The Pope himself had a massive overdraft, and the Medici bank became the most profitable business in Europe. By 1434, half the bank’s revenue came from the ‘Rome branch’, which was in fact little more than a mobile bank that followed the Pope around the world. Papal connections gave the Medici bank immense power, soon everyone wanted an account with the Pope’s personal bank. On one occasion the nomination of a new bishop was ‘delayed’, until his father - a Cardinal - had repaid their debts to the Medici bank. And the Medici kept ahead of their banking rivals because of the invention of limited liability. Giovanni di Bicci had set up a franchise system, where regional branch managers shared a stake in the business. Giovanni also banned loans to princes and kings, who were notoriously bad investments. Consequentially, the Medici business remained in the black while its competitors lost fortunes.” (The Medici)

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The Battle for the Truth and the Light has indeed been a long journey for humankind, and it is not nearly over in America due to ignornace. So much ignorance, that Americans can't step up to defend a fallen Heros like JFK, MLK, and RFK. And thus, humankind in the US has pretty much been run over and enslaved due to extremely vapid intelligence on history of religions.

Just like the Vatican has been invaded by those counter to the Christian and Essene religion, so has the American religious factions. The heart of the war for world power and control is religion and how one can be used to destroy the other. The power oscillates back and forth like a pendalun swings over that span of history.

Often the keys to the City or Enlightenment for this war of Relgions lies in the studies of religion via the Masons and the insights of persons like "Albert Pike", who Wrote the "Morals and Dogma" for the Scottish Rite. Scotland is where the Knights Templer ran and reformed, and the Scottish Rite teaches a good bit of this old history that is kept secret from the masses of the US. To study these issues pulls back the final curtain of knowledge needed to solve just what faction was behind killing JFK and lots of others.

If one studies the Masonic Scottish Rite to the 33rd Degree level one learns about just where the origin for the religion Divine right and fallen Angels issues come full circle.

http://watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon-4.html

THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN

Since the designation Jew belongs exclusively to the tribe of Judah, only the tribe of Judah is Jewish. Other tribes of Israel who call themselves Jews are appropriating to themselves an ancient birthright which is not rightfully theirs, for the Messiah would descend through the tribe of Judah. Revelation 2:9-10 refers to the synagogue of Satan as them which say they are Jews, and are not. In His message to the church at Smyrna, Jesus spoke of this group as a synagogue, that was not Jewish:

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

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Arguments against a Jewish conspiracy usually include the following:

The global bankers and the owners of transnational corporations who conspire to overthrow Western civilization and restructure society are not exclusively Jews but include Gentiles as well.

Do we know this for a fact? If the dispersed Jews have been taking Gentile surnames for two millennia, as well as concealing their Jewish identity, who knows if power elites perceived to be Gentiles are not in reality crypto-Jews?

To promote the idea of a Jewish conspiracy is anti-Semitic and defamatory of all Jews.

This is hardly the case, for the conspiracy is primarily occultic and not all Jews are Cabalists, and even fewer are members of the High Cabal. Many Jews eschew the idolatrous paganism of the Cabalists, who have already demonstrated they will exterminate their Jewish brothers, who follow the Torah, to achieve their conspiratorial aims. In fact, Bible prophecy foretells the fate of the Jews---that two thirds will be destroyed, yet there will be a remnant, a third of Jewry, which is persecuted by the Antichrist system, but protected by God:

And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God. (Zech.13:8,9)

The term anti-Semitism involves a number of fallacies, one of these being that all of the Semitic people are of Hebrew descent. It is a fact, however, that the Hebrews comprise only 10% of world Semites. Dr. Alfred Lilienthal observed that, In fact, it is the Zionists who have been anti-Semites starting from the holy land of Palestine and ending with a worldwide movement against Muslims and Arabs who form 90 percent of the Semites.

Another misconception, fostered by failure to understand the history of Israel, is that the international Hebrew community is religiously and politically monolithic and that criticism of one faction within this community amounts to prejudice against all people of Hebrew descent. In fact, most theories of a Jewish conspiracy condemn all Jews and fail to take into account the schism that split ancient Israel, which was precipitated by the idolatry of the tribe of Dan.

There is weighty evidence that tribe of Dan were the progenitors of the Merovingians. This evidence is presented in The Lost Tribe of Dan, which also explains why the tribe of Dan is still at war with the tribe of Judah. In brief, Samsons riddle to the Philistines is really a prophecy: Out of the eater came forth meat, and out of the strong came forth sweetness. Judg.14:14 The riddle recalled an incident when Samson turned aside to see the carcase of the lion: and, behold, there was a swarm of bees and honey in the carcase of the lion. And he took thereof in his hands, and went on eating, and came to his father and mother, and he gave them, and they did eat... Samsons prophecy suggests that the tribe of Dan intends to destroy the tribe of Judah and inaugurate their own messiah who will rule a world kingdom from Israel, not Judah. From the carcass of the young lion (destruction of Judah) the tribe of Dan (symbolized by bees) will produce a Golden Age (symbolized by honey).

Specifically, the Antichrist of the tribe of Dan would rule from the northern area which was occupied by Dan, namely Mount Sion, also called Mount Hermon (Deut.4:48) This Canaanite territory was chosen by Dan because it was the location of the sacred site, Mount Hermon. Located on the 33º latitude and longitude, Mount Hermon/Sion is where the Nephilim (fallen angels) descended per Genesis 6. This accounts for the bestial nature of the Antichrist and his ancient lineage. (See: Heeding Bible Prophecy: Mount Sion/Hermon)

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And when you get to this level-----one sees a millenia old battle that killed JFK in 1963.

One also discoveres that America really isn't free and is really enslaved by this gang of corrupt oligarchs.

And that lots of information that is essential for a proper direction and freedom has been denied them.

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So, the looking at the Name George Mandel gets even more interesting, when one checks the other names present at this Paris Peace Conference meeting. Not only does one find a Rothschild in hiding, one finds a notorious Sassoon name, and a Columbia University person named Beer.

Beer made his fortunes in tobacco importing and he is hanging out with the name Sassoon that took over China with Opium methods, then followed by tobacco exploitation.

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And according to Eric Samuelson, Jeroboam Rothschild represented France in the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 under a Gentile surname. Also located in Paris was the Prieuré de Sion.

“Beer was the American expert on colonial questions at the Peace Conference in Paris. With Lord Eustace Percy, he drew up the plan for the History of the Peace Conference which was carried out by Harold Temperley. The British Round Table group served at the conference as advisers to Prime Minister David Lloyd George. [The real behind- the-scene experts at the Paris conference included M. (Georges) Mandel (real name Jereboam Rothschild) (France), Phillip Sassoon (1888-1939) (England) and Bernard Baruch (U.S.).] Beer was named head of the Mandate Department of the League of Nations as soon as it was established.” (Mystery Man: George Louis Beer)

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But there is more----Beer started the CFR.

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MYSTERY MAN:

GEORGE LOUIS BEER

George Louis Beer (d. 1920)--Historian, Columbia University. Beer was the historian of the British colonial system before 1765.(1) The chief expert on colonial questions on Colonel House's "Inquiry," which was studying plans for the peace settlements. Regional Specialist for Colonial Problems. U.S. Round Table Member from about 1912 (the first member who was not a British subject).(2)

When the British Round Table Group, about 1911, began to study the causes of the American Revolution, they wrote to Beer, and thus began a close and sympathetic relationship. The Group's attention was first attracted to Beer by a series of Anglophile studies on the British Empire in the eighteenth century which he published in the period after 1893. A Germanophobe as well as an Anglophile, he intended by writing, if we are to believe The Round Table, "to counteract the falsehoods about British Colonial policy to be found in the manuals used in American primary schools." He wrote the reports on the United States in The Round Table for many years, and his influence was clearly evident in Curtis's The Commonwealth of Nations.

Beer served from 1915-18 as American correspondent for The Round Table. He gave a hint of the existence of the Milner Group in an article which he wrote for the Political Science Quarterly of June 1915 on Milner. Berr wrote: "He stands forth as the intellectual leader of the most progressive school of imperial thought throughout the Empire." Beer was one of the chief supporters of American intervention in the war against Germany in the period 1914-1917.

In 1916, Lionel Curtis, a traveling delegate for The Round Table, met Beer in New York and proposed setting up an American group to participate in Round Table discussions. Despite his own hope of English-speaking union, Beer turned down the idea on the grounds that Americans had no business belonging to a movement to federate the British Empire.

The secret-society used Beer to establish a mandate system for the territories taken from enemy powers as a result of the First World War. In The Anglo-American Establishment, Carroll Quigley wrote that the mandate "was first suggested by George Louis Beer in a report submitted to the United States Government on January 1, 1918, and by Lionel Curtis in an article called "Windows of Freedom" in The Round Table for December 1918.

Beer was the American expert on colonial questions at the Peace Conference in Paris. With Lord Eustace Percy, he drew up the plan for the History of the Peace Conference which was carried out by Harold Temperley. The British Round Table group served at the conference as advisers to Prime Minister David Lloyd George. [The real behind- the-scene experts at the Paris conference included M. (Georges) Mandel (real name Jereboam Rothschild) (France), Phillip Sassoon (1888-1939) (England) and Bernard Baruch (U.S.).] Beer was named head of the Mandate Department of the League of Nations as soon as it was established.

Beer was also one of the originators of the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London and its American branch, The Council on Foreign Relations. Thomas W. Lamont, Isaiah Bowman, George Louis Beer and Whitney H. Shepardson approached Robert Cecil about planning a strategy for future joint ventures. They arranged for a party for fifty at the Hotel Majestic in Paris on May 30. 1919. At Paris the Royal Institute for International Affairs was created after WWI. The rather loosely organized group in the U.S. included George Louis Beer, Walter Lippman, Frank Aydetlotte, Whitney Shepardson, Thomas W. Lamont, Jerome D. Green, Erwin D. Canham (Christian Science Monitor) and others.(3)

Beer's Round Table membership was revealed in the obituary published in The Round Table for September 1920.

The American Historical Association offers the GEORGE LOUIS BEER PRIZE in recognition of outstanding historical writing in European international history since 1895. This $1,000 prize was established in accordance with the terms of a bequest by Beer to be awarded annually for the best work on any phase of European international history since the year 1895 that is submitted by a scholar who is a United States citizen. The phrase "European international history since the year 1895" may be understood to mean any study of international history since the year 1895 with a significant European dimension. The American Historical Association has given the George Louis Beer Prize for European international history since 1895.(4)

William Cohen is currently the chair of the Beer prize.(5) Bernadotte E. Schmitt (RS 1905) (b. May 19, 1886) wrote The Coming of the War: 1914 published in 1930. It won the George Louis Beer Prize in 1930 and the Pulitzer in 1931.(6) Schmitt was with the University of Chicago (1925-1946).(7) Christine White, Associate Professor of European History (who received a Ph.D. at Cambridge, 1988) won the 1993 Beer Prize for British and American Commercial Relations with Soviet Russia, 1918-1924 (University of North Carolina Press, 1992).(8) Michael J. Hogan, chair of the Department of History at The Ohio State University, has also received the Beer Prize.(9) 1999 Beer Committee Members also include: Diane Clemens Department of History, UC Berkeley, Istvan Deak, Department of History, Columbia University, Paul Kennedy, Department of History, Yale University and Anson Rabinbach, Department of History, Princeton University.

OTHER BEERS: Nelly Beer (1886-1945) married Robert Philipe Rothschild (1880-1946). Samuel H. Beer was author of The Communist Manifesto. S.H. Beer, Rhodes Scholar (1932) (Michigan). No known relationships to Louis Beer....

1. http://theaha.org/prizes/BEER.htm

2. . Carroll Quigley, The Anglo-American Establishment 168 (1981).

3. Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope 950 (1966).

4. http://chnm.gmu.edu/aha/info/awards.html

5. http://theaha.org/prizes/BEER.htm.

6. http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~mklein/alum1.html.

7. http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~mklein/alum1.html.

8. http://www3.la.psu.edu/histist/faculty/WHITE.HTM

9. http://www.cohums.ohio-state.edu/history/people/hogan.htm.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Louis_Beer

George Louis Beer (1872 – 1920) was an American historian.

Born in Staten Island, New York, he achieved success in the tobacco business. He studied at Columbia University and lectured on European History there from 1893 to 1897. After retiring from business, he wrote three books on the British-American colonial period. In 1913 he was the first Loubat Prize recipient for The Origins of the British Colonial System, 1578-1660, one of those books. His work The English Speaking Peoples, was published in 1917. He stressed the successful workings of the commercial dimensions of the British Empire and was part of the "Imperial School" which emphasized the economic benefits and efficient administration of the Empire. He was American correspondent of the British Round Table Journal.[1]

Beer served as colonial expert to President Wilson's American Commission of Inquiry during World War I[1] and attended the Paris Peace Conference as a member of the American Commission to Negotiate Peace, for which he was chief of the Colonial Division in 1918-1919. He was also a member of the Mandates Commission of the League of Nations, and was appointed director of the Mandatory Section of the League's Secretariat in 1919.

Contents [hide]

1 The George Louis Beer Prize

2 Bibliography

3 See also

4 References

The George Louis Beer PrizeBeer left a bequest to establish a prize recognizing outstanding historical writing relating to European international history since 1895. American citizens or permanent residents are eligible, for books published in the year preceding the award. The George Louis Beer Prize has been awarded in most years since 1923.[2]

BibliographyBritish Colonial Policy, 1754-65 (1907)

Origins of the British Colonial System, 1578-1660 (1908)

The Old Colonial System, 1660-1754 (1912) full text online.

African Questions at the Paris Peace Conference (1923)

See alsoHistoriography of the British Empire

References1.^ a b George Louis Beer, Louis Herbert Gray (1923). "Editor's Preface". African Questions at the Paris Peace Conference. The Macmillan Company.

2.^ American Historical Association, accessed April 5, 2010

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In these "Bloomfield Documents" from "I have some Secrets for You", it is interesting that the name "Leonard Cohn" pops up, and with that lots of the tobacco company associations, which then associates back to Beer to some extent.

http://somesecretsforyou.blogspot.com/

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Yeah I think Leonard Cohen was “in on it”

Next we’ll hearing about cables from Bob Dylan, Lou Reed, Simon and Garfunkel!! What exactly does the drivel in Phelps’ latest posts have to do with the notions Jews used their financial clout to keep Zionist culpability for the assassination out of Stone’s movie?

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