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Still nothing but rampant speculation from two guys (Baker and you) with no relevant qualifications. Your hero makes all sorts of claims with no basis in fact he claims no windows were broken to provide ventilation and that fires were small but the lower half of the south façade was covered in thick black smoke most of the afternoon making it impossible to ascertain the former from the limited images available and suggesting the latter is false. Witness accounts from qualified experts which contradict this are summarily dismissed and disgustingly it is insinuated the FDNY which had just lost over 300 men was 'in on it'.

I have an idea for you Gaal, fly to NYC, make copies of that POS essay and go to one of the firehouses that lost many men that day and read to fire-fighters on duty passages like "Isn't it odd that the FDNY seemingly just gave up on such an exceedingly important and valuable building as WTC 7, one that had only marginal fires burning on two floors?" and see what kind of reaction you get. Make sure you HMO/health insurance is paid up.

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  • Witness accounts from qualified experts which contradict this are summarily dismissed and disgustingly it is insinuated the FDNY which had just lost over 300 men was 'in on it'. ?? END COLBY

  • GEE , NO SUCH THING SAID
  • I READ IT ANOTHER WAY (Gaal)
  • "...you my need a few grammer lessons as to punctuation and/or reading comprehension course" - Steven Gaal 2010
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  • If, as many theorists suggest, the conspirators were indeed OEM men, they would not only have had access to this floor (in a building that had been evacuated and presumably secured), they would also have had deisel fuel in abundance to use as an accellerant to spark their dummy fire............(OEM MEN NOT FIREFIGHTERS CONSPIRATORS)
    The conspirators couldn't logically wait any longer because a burgeoning army of firefighters and rescue workers had recovered from their shock and were descending on Ground Zero to begin the lengthy search and rescue effort that began that evening. For those who desperately needed the building destroyed, it was then or never and, in an effort to finally wrap things up, they put the demolition process in motion by clearing personnel from around the base of Building 7. Then, when they could wait no longer, they put an end to the spectacle at 5:25 PM, dropping Building 7 neatly within its footprint, an obvious controlled implosion so perfect it would have earned any demolition company a bonus..........(FIREFIGHTERS PREVENTED FROM BEING GOOD WITNESSES BY CONSPIRATORS)
    But there's another parallel that bears examination, one that does much to support the theory at hand. After the smoke had cleared in downtown OK City, it was discovered that two of the bombs planted in the Murrah Building had failed to explode, a fact that was reported nightly on local TV news programs for a week or two after the bombing. And these reports were more than just rumors. Sources included FBI agents, police and firefighters. (FIREFIGHTERS GOOD GUYS)
    .........Larry Silverstein claiming to have 'pulled' WTC 7 is well known among 9/11 researchers. The only explanation that's ever been offered in his defense was that he meant 'pull' the firefighters out of the "dangerously burning"(SILVERSTEIN ORDERS FIREFIGHTERS OUT,REALLY OEM ) building....... A photographer on the scene described the evacuation of firefighters as they "prepared for the collapse of Building 7..(OBEDIENT FIREFIGHTERS LEAVE)
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Do not give your DOCTOR the hoch you are puffing...bad things could happen.

Dr. Nick has a medical degree from "Hollywood Upstairs Medical College", where he apparently spent much of his time using his ability to acquire prescription drugs in the 1970s to impress a succession of attractive women who were typically taller than him.[1] Thus far, none of the patients he has swindled, maimed, or given useless or dangerous medical advice seems to have sued him—although a few have come after him in person. For example, in "Homer's Triple Bypass" a large angry man grabs him, and Riviera says "Well if it isn't my old friend Mr. McGregg—with a leg for an arm and an arm for a leg"; the man literally has an arm where a leg should be and a leg where an arm should be, and it is implied that this is Riviera's fault.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTz8rKJk-Vw

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More baseless speculation from a misinformed kook with no relevant expertise.

Just how do you interpret "Isn't it odd that the FDNY seemingly just gave up on such an exceedingly important and valuable building as WTC 7, one that had only marginal fires burning on twofloors?" The douchebag also insinuates the FDNY lied about the extent of the fires and damage.

I've asked you a few times to cite any structural or forensic engineers who back your claims on this thread, that seems to have stumped you. So has rationalizing Gage repeatedly pointing to the wrong NIST simulation in his presentations.

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I asked about your claims regarding 7 WTC. The page only had the following about that building:

Building 7’s Mystifying Implosion

Baffling as the Towers’ “collapses” were, even

more perplexing was the destruction of World Trade

Center Building 7.

“Unprecedented,” says

Rice. “Unexplainable,” says

Huebner. “No plane hit this

building,” points out

Graham Inman, a chartered

engineer in London.

Few Americans have

given any thought to the third World Trade Center

high-rise destroyed on September 11

th
, since it was not

repeatedly televised. Kamal

Obeid, S.E., ponders it. “A

localized failure in a steel-framed

building like WTC 7 cannot cause

a catastrophic collapse like a

house of cards without a

simultaneous and patterned loss of

several of its columns at key

locations within the building.”

Videos show “simultaneous failure of all

columns,” wrote Inman, “rather than [the expected]

phased approach,” in which undamaged columns

would show resistance sequentially.

Though the building housed “offices of the CIA,

the Secret Service, and the Department of Defense,

among others,” Rice notes, the 9/11 Commission left

WTC 7’s collapse out of its report. FEMA’s 2002

inquiry blamed WTC 7’s collapse on fires, though it

admits that its “best hypothesis has only a low

probability of occurrence.” Rice notes that the media

have “basically kept the collapse of WTC Building #7

hidden from public view.”

But of the three men cited only Obeid is a structural engineer and his experience with steel framed buildings is unclear. He is far out numbered by SE's who've gone on record supporting the fire induced collapse theory.

Obeid's "personal statement" gives no indication he actually read the ASCE or NIST reports:

Only recently have I begun to examine the structural collapse of the buildings. Photos of the steel, evidence about how the buildings collapsed, the unexplainable collapse of WTC 7, evidence of thermite in the debris as well as several other red flags, are quite troubling indications of well planned and controlled demolition.
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Obeid, S.E., ponders it. “A

localized failure in a steel-framed

building like WTC 7 cannot cause

a catastrophic collapse like a

house of cards without a

simultaneous and patterned loss of

several of its columns at key

locations within the building.”

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It is the
obvious
which is so difficult to see most of the time. People say 'It's as plain as the nose on your face.' But how much of the nose on your face can you see, unless someone holds a mirror up to you?”

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Kamal Obeid,
C.E., S.E
. -- Civil and Structural Engineer - AE911Truth.org

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Mr. Obeid is certainly entitled to his opinion but none of his comments indicates he closely studied any of the collapses and it isn't clear if he even read the NIST reports. He seems not to have much if any experience with designing tall buildings. He does not claim such expertise or experience on his AE911T page or anywhere else I've seen. There are only a few tall buildings shown on his company website but the work was retrofitting, upgrades etc. I was not able to find any work by him on Google Scholar.

http://www.landtech.com/

http://scholar.googl...l=en&as_sdt=0,5

In contrast a dozen structural, metallurgical and fire protection engineers, most with doctorates, who spent years studying the collapse of 7 WTC contributed to the main NIST report. Each of the first three listed authors Drs. Shyam Sunder, Richard G. Gann and William L. Grosshandler has over 100 papers indexed on Google Dr, H.S. Lew the 4th over 400, Richard Bukowski the 5th over 1000, etc. etc. None of them were bothered by the symmetry of the collapse nor were the four engineers who wrote the ASCE/FEMA report one of whom later published a paper about the collapse in Structure Magazine. Nor it seems were more than a handful of the thousands of structural, forensic and fire protection engineers around the world.

http://web.archive.o...F/NCSTAR 1A.pdf Pg. 5

http://scholar.googl...l=en&as_sdt=0,5

http://911research.w...fema403_ch5.pdf

http://www.structure...lsanz-Nov07.pdf

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Sorry Gaal the views of dozens of prominent structural engineers are NOT trumped by those an octogenarian actor, an elderly theologian and a chemical engineer etc //end Colby

(A COLLECTION CAN BE MADE FOR YOUR NEED FOR READING GLASSES,GAAL)

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Little-Known 9/11 Truth Organization Strikes Gold in Court Action Against NIST, Unearths Striking Video/Photo WTC Evidence

Architects & Engineers For 9/11 Truth

Over the last century, the most astounding historical discoveries of man-made artifacts have often been accomplished by well-funded, highly experienced researchers. From the excavation of King Tut’s tomb to the sighting of the sunken Titanic, stunning finds have required immense financial and human resources, as well as leadership by distinguished explorers. So, how did a mountain of never-before-seen footage used in NIST’s World Trade Center investigations get exposed to the light of day last month? Was it the work of a billionaire adventurer? Not quite. You can thank an upstart non-profit, the International Center for 9/11 Studies, whose efforts have at last borne fruit.

The International Center for 9/11 Studies was founded in 2008 by Director James Gourley, a Texas lawyer who began questioning the events of 9/11 after watching a presentation given by David Ray Griffin on C-SPAN.

“I was just floored by what I was hearing,” Gourley explained, “and I’ve been looking into 9/11 ever since then.”

In order to encourage a better understanding of the 9/11 attacks and promote scientific study of these tragic events, Gourley assembled a small team of trusted colleagues, which includes physics instructor David Chandler, activist Dr. Graeme MacQueen, and Justin Keogh, the Center’s Chief Technical Officer. The Center has partnered with other key researchers in the past, including physicist Steven Jones and chemist Niels Harrit.

Since its inception, the Center has contributed to groundbreaking work on the technical analysis of the WTC building destructions. Gourley, who has a chemical engineering background, co-authored several papers that exposed evidence that the Twin Towers and WTC Building 7 were destroyed by means of controlled demolition. His critique of official-story defender Zdenek Bazant’s crush down/crush up collapse theory was published as part of a formal discussion in the mainstream Journal of Engineering Mechanics. Gourley’s contributions also extended to the peer-reviewed paper detailing the active thermitic material discovered in the WTC dust, which was published in the Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal. In addition, the Center collaborated with Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice, and other scientists and engineers to submit 26 pages of comments on the NIST WTC 7 Draft Report within the three-week deadline.

Uncovering the data NIST used in its WTC investigations proved to be a little more difficult. The Center filed a FOIA Request with NIST on January 26, 2009, seeking disclosure of “all of the photographs and videos collected, reviewed, cited or in any other way used by NIST during its investigation of the World Trade Center building collapses.” NIST initially ignored this request, and for months dismissed attempts by the Center to gain acknowledgment of its receipt. Undeterred, Gourley filed a lawsuit on May 28, 2009 to get the data released. Since then, NIST has been periodically turning over images and video from its archives. So far, the Center has received over 300 DVDs and several external hard disk drives related to the NIST Reports – more than three terabytes of data – and NIST has indicated that additional records will be released in the future.

The first section of data to be partially analyzed by the Center is the Cumulus Database, a collection of more than 6,500 video clips that NIST had gathered from residents, first responders and news organizations that were filming in New York City on September 11, 2001. Even though the Center has only been able to look through a small fraction of this enormous archive, several remarkable video sequences have already been located and posted online.

In one unsettling video clip, two firefighters who had just escaped from one of the Twin Towers discussed how secondary explosions inside the building caused the lobby to collapse. One of the firefighters is so concerned about explosives that he says, “There may be more. Any one of these buildings could blow up.” The official accounts of the events have excluded the more than 100 witnesses citing the sights and/or sounds of explosions.

The release of this video generated so much interest that searches for it skyrocketed to #1 on Google Trends on October 6, 2010.

In another clip, a low frequency explosion can be heard just before the East penthouse of WTC Building 7 falls.

One of the most mysterious pieces of footage to be exposed shows a massive amount of dust and a large object being ejected from a window a few stories below the jet impact zone of one of the Towers. “The size and speed of the expelled material indicate that an explosion must have caused this event,” Gourley said after examining the video.

Several clips show clear evidence of editing that Gourley described as “suspicious.” This includes a video of WTC Building 7 from which the penthouse collapse sequence is missing. In another clip that begins just after WTC 7 starts to fall, the soundtrack is strangely silent, and does not turn on until after the building has been completely destroyed.

In addition to these, a video recorded after the collapse of the Twin Towers was released, in which Michael Hess, the Corporation Counsel for New York City, can be seen calling for help from the 8th floor of WTC Building 7. This footage further corroborates the testimony of Barry Jennings, the former Deputy Emergency Manager of the New York City Housing Authority, who reported that he and Hess were trapped on the 8th floor after an explosion inside the building destroyed the stairwell beneath them.

The Center is preparing other data collections for public download, and working with NIST to attain additional volumes of information that are still being withheld. Center volunteers are also analyzing a computer model of Building 7 that NIST reluctantly released to determine whether the parameters used in their investigation were scientifically legitimate. David Chandler will continue to provide his technical expertise by publishing a video that contains a detailed analysis of the recordings. Justin Keogh has been adding material to his website to assist those who wish to explore the extensive amount of written material pertaining to the WTC catastrophe.

In the meantime, the Cumulus video clips, which total about 86 GB in size, have been made available online, and instructions for download can be viewed here. This collection alone is so massive that the Center cannot analyze all of the footage in a timely manner with its limited assets. Many hours of video have yet to be thoroughly reviewed. At first glance, the current lack of resources may seem to be disappointing, but this dilemma actually presents one of the greatest opportunities for independent researchers, technical professionals and others to help bring new evidence to light.

“The more people there are that look at it, the better,” Gourley said when asked about the need for assistance. “There might be a bombshell hidden in there, and you never know until you go through it all.” The international attention that some of the footage has garnered also suggests that other as-yet-unseen evidence could make headlines around the world.

The treasure trove of data that the International Center for 9/11 Studies has worked so hard to obtain is waiting earnestly for a few good men and women to sift through it, and unearth all the information that has been buried for years. Anyone with Internet access now has the potential to make discoveries that will bring us closer to justice for the victims of that fateful day more than nine years ago.

Architects & Engineers For 9/11 Truth

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Sorry Gaal:

  • Bentham's "Open journals" are vanity publication not legitimate peer-reviewed journals
  • Nothing in the photos/videos contradicts the NIST account
  • Jenning was most probably mistaken about the time of the "explosion" and heard the collapse of the North Tower
  • No one but truthers believes Gourley refuted Bazandt, the latter is a prominent professor of structural engineering whose papers were publish in peer reviewed engineering journals, the former has no relevant expertise and his critique has only appeared on truther websites.

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  • Jenning was most probably mistaken about the time of the "explosion" and heard the collapse of the North Tower // end Colby
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(Golly they dont know whats in front of them ?? Trapped by hearing a seperate collaspe ??

  • The former Deputy Emergency Manager of the New York City Housing Authority must be unrelible re: you Colby. Scared of the truth ?? , You see a missing 8th floor stairwell only rational (compared to Colby's rationalizations) explanation is demolition. Which puts 10 years of Colby work down the proverbial drain. Such things makes a man scared and grasping at straws like Colby's brown comments above. Gaal)

This footage further corroborates the testimony of Barry Jennings, the former Deputy Emergency Manager of the New York City Housing Authority, who reported that he and Hess were trapped on the 8th floor after an explosion inside the building destroyed the stairwell beneath them.

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http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-articles/633-barry-jennings-revisited.html

Is His Explosive WTC 7 Testimony Still Court-Worthy?

Editor’s Note: New York attorney Dennis McMahon spearheaded the legal effort by NYC CAN in 2009 to compel the New York City Council to initiate a new investigation of the destruction of the WTC skyscrapers. If you would like to support legal actions toward a real 9/11 investigation, write to Gregg Roberts.

Among all the highly credible video and forensic evidence indicating that WTC Building 7 was brought down by explosive controlled demolition on September 11, 2001, the accounts of explosions related by eyewitness Barry Jennings are particularly persuasive.

Barry Jennings, minutes after being rescued from WTC 7, told ABC News that an explosion had trapped him in the building

On 9/11, Jennings was the Deputy Director of the Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority. He and Michael Hess, the New York City Corporation Counsel, were rescued from WTC Building 7 before it collapsed at 5:20 p.m. On several occasions, Jennings stated that an explosion trapped them in WTC Building 7 and that he continued to hear...

explosions throughout the building until they were saved. As reported in October 2008, Jennings died on August 19, 2008. Thus, the question emerges: Has the potential legal power and value of Jennings’ testimony been lost forever?

The short answer is “no.” Even under the strictest rules of evidence that may apply, Jennings’ statements about the explosions at Building 7 should be admissible during any legal proceeding convened to determine the real cause of the collapse of Building 7 – be it in a criminal trial, before a grand jury, or during hearings before the New York City Council, the New York State Assembly, the US Congress, or any other formal bodies.

On the afternoon of 9/11, after Jennings and Hess were rescued from Building 7, Jennings told ABC-TV News:

“Well, me and Hess, the Corporation Counsel, were on the 23rd floor. I told him, ‘We gotta get out of here.’ We started walking down the stairs. We made it to the eighth floor [later clarified to be the sixth floor, see here at the 3:50 mark]. Big explosion! Blew us back into the eighth floor. And I turned to Hess and I said, ‘This is it, we’re dead. We’re not gonna make it outta here...’”

Six years after the destruction of the WTC skyscrapers, Jennings stood by his revelatory testimony

Tellingly, despite his prominence on national TV, Jennings was never called to testify before the 9/11 Commission, and his account was not included in the 9/11 Commission Report or the NIST WTC Reports. Similarly, the 9/11 Commission also completely ignored the firefighters’ reports of explosions in the Twin Towers, as contained in the Fire Department of New York (FDNY) oral histories, while making “fairly extensive use of the oral histories” for other purposes, according to 9/11 researcher Graeme MacQueen (see page 9 of the PDF, page 55 of the Journal ).

Sometime before 2008, during an interview with Loose Change filmmakers Jason Bermas and Dylan Avery, Jennings elaborated on the explosions he heard and felt in Building 7, saying (at the 5:45 mark):

“All this time, I’m hearing all kinds of explosions. All this time I’m hearing explosions. And I’m thinking that maybe it’s the uh, buses around me that were on fire, the cars that were on fire, but, I don’t see no [gesturing] you know, but I'm still hearing these explosions. When they [the rescuers] finally got to us, and they took us down, to what, what they, they, uh, called the lobby, because I asked them when we got down there I said, ‘Where are we?’ He said ‘This was the lobby.’ And I said, ‘You gotta be kidding me.’ Total ruins. Total ruins. Now keep in mind when I came in there, the lobby had nice escalators, it was a huge lobby. And for me to see what I saw, was unbelievable.”

In an interview with BBC, Jennings clarified that he stepped over dead bodies as he escaped WTC 7, but did not actually see them. This may be difficult testimony for a jury to comprehend. He did, however, continue to assert that explosions occurred in the building.

There has been some confusion regarding the extent to which Jennings had, before his death, retracted portions of his account regarding his stepping over dead bodies at Building 7. This side issue might have to be dealt with during any formal proceeding; however, Jennings never wavered from his statements regarding the explosions. Thus, his recorded statements remain highly credible and would still be of importance in helping to establish that Building 7 was brought down in a controlled demolition.

From a legal perspective, the problem would be how to introduce the Jennings video clips into evidence over any objections that may arise as to his testimony being hearsay. In legal settings, “hearsay” is generally defined as an out-of-court statement offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted. Since Jennings’ statements (referenced above) were not made in a court of law (or other legal proceeding), and because those statements

A video released by NIST in 2010 shows Michael Hess calling for help from the 8th floor of Building 7, which further confirms Jennings’ account

would be offered to prove that there were explosions at Building 7 on 9/11, the statements would necessarily constitute hearsay and thus potentially could be excluded from being introduced into evidence. However, there are exceptions to the hearsay rule, most notably when the witness is unavailable (e.g., deceased). If it could be proven that Jennings is deceased, his statements regarding the explosions should be taken into evidence during any legal proceeding.

There has also been controversy over whether Jennings is in fact deceased, as well as mystery surrounding what the cause of death might have been. But if and when the time comes—in court, at an inquest, or during a formal investigation or hearing—a certified death certificate would likely have to be obtained and introduced into evidence to show that Jennings is unavailable to testify. At that point, the video clips of Jennings’ compelling testimony about the explosions inside Building 7 could be introduced into evidence.

It should be noted that the video clips themselves would have to be authenticated. This could be done through the testimony of those present when the video was recorded, saying that what is observed on the clips is what the witnesses remember seeing and hearing Jennings say at the time of the interviews.

It should also be noted that Jennings’ account of being trapped in Building 7 with Hess and hearing explosions has been verified by Hess. There is even a video of Hess being trapped in Building 7, further corroborating his and Jennings’ accounts.

Former Air Force medic Kevin McPadden is one of many first responders who heard explosions at the Twin Towers and WTC 7

In addition, dozens of other witnesses heard explosions on 9/11—at least 118 (and counting) according to MacQueen’s research into the collection of oral histories from the FDNY. With regard to Building 7 itself, the statements of first responders Craig Bartmer and Kevin McPadden have also been captured on video, and certainly corroborate the testimony of Barry Jennings.

Craig Bartmer, a former New York City police officer, and 9/11 first responder, stated:

“All of a sudden, the radios exploded and everybody started screaming, ‘Get away, get away, get away from it!’ And, I was like a deer in the headlights. And I look up, and...Two guys that I knew were on the transit radio. I don’t know if those tapes are out there... And I looked up, and… it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. You know the thing [building 7] started peeling in on itself and, I mean, there was an umbrella of [expletive] seven feet over my head that I just stared at. Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running, and the xxxx’s hitting the ground behind me. And the whole time you’re hearing, THOOM! THOOM! THOOM! THOOM! THOOM! So, I, I think I know an explosion when I hear it, you know? So yeah, I wanna know what took that building down. I don’t think it was a fire, and it certainly wasn’t a plane...It had some damage to it but nothing like what they’re saying…Nothing to account for what we saw…I am shocked at the [official] story we’ve heard about it, to be quite honest.”

Kevin McPadden, an emergency medical technician, and 9/11 first responder, stated:

“Yeah, there was like, there was a whole lot of commotion. The firefighters were picking up, and they were starting to roll out...The Red Cross rep was like, he goes over and he says [to us], ‘You gotta stay behind this line because they’re thinking about bringing the building down.’…He goes over and he asks one of the… firefighters what was going on…He came back over with his hand over the radio and [you could hear] what sounded like a countdown. And, at the last few seconds, he took his hand off [the radio] and you heard ‘three-two-one,’ and he was just saying, ‘Just run for your life! Just run for your life!’ And then it was like another two, three seconds, you heard explosions. Like, BA-BOOOOOM! And it’s like a distinct sound…BA-BOOOOOM! And you felt a rumble in the ground, like, almost like you wanted to grab onto something. That, to me, I knew that was an explosion. There was no doubt in my mind...”

With or without Jennings’ testimony, the videos and images of the WTC 7 collapse prove it was caused by explosives

Given all we know from the recorded statements made by Jennings, Bartmer, McPadden, and other eyewitnesses to the events of 9/11, as well as all the forensic and video evidence regarding the explosive destruction of Building 7, the question becomes, “Will we ever have a truly independent subpoena-powered investigation into what really happened on 9/11?” That is the goal of AE911Truth. Until that day arrives, however, it’s vital that we continue to study, present, and preserve all of the 9/11 evidence, and take action locally and globally to educate the public far and wide

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World Exclusive: WTC7 Survivor Barry Jennings Account

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Michael Hess: The 9/11 Interview with Evidence that NIST Lied about When Hess and Barry Jennings Were Rescued

by David Ray Griffin

http://www.wanttoknow.info/008/hessjenningswtc7explosiontvbroadcast

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I hear your cry...you dont want the truth

I hear your cry...you dont want the truth

I hear your cry...you dont want the truth

YOUR EXPLANATION,WITH ALL DO RESPECT , IS ABSURD........

On several occasions, Jennings stated that an explosion trapped them in WTC Building 7 and that he continued to hear...

On the afternoon of 9/11, after Jennings and Hess were rescued from Building 7, Jennings told ABC-TV News:

“Well, me and Hess, the Corporation Counsel, were on the 23rd floor. I told him, ‘We gotta get out of here.’ We started walking down the stairs. We made it to the eighth floor [later clarified to be the sixth floor, see here at the 3:50 mark]. Big explosion! Blew us back into the eighth floor. And I turned to Hess and I said, ‘This is it, we’re dead. We’re not gonna make it outta here...’”

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Craig Bartmer, a former New York City police officer, and 9/11 first responder, stated:

“All of a sudden, the radios exploded and everybody started screaming, ‘Get away, get away, get away from it!’ And, I was like a deer in the headlights. And I look up, and...Two guys that I knew were on the transit radio. I don’t know if those tapes are out there... And I looked up, and… it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. You know the thing [building 7] started peeling in on itself and, I mean, there was an umbrella of [expletive] seven feet over my head that I just stared at. Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running, and the xxxx’s hitting the ground behind me. And the whole time you’re hearing, THOOM! THOOM! THOOM! THOOM! THOOM! So, I, I think I know an explosion when I hear it, you know? So yeah, I wanna know what took that building down. I don’t think it was a fire, and it certainly wasn’t a plane...It had some damage to it but nothing like what they’re saying…Nothing to account for what we saw…I am shocked at the [official] story we’ve heard about it, to be quite honest.”

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