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Questions about the validity of Carvillie's 'prediction' aside (he is known for making outlandish remarks*) "civil disorder" is quite different from civil war

Civil disorder, also known as civil unrest or civil strife, is a broad term that is typically used by law enforcement to describe one or more forms of unrest caused by a group of people.[1] Civil disturbance is typically a symptom of, and a form of protest against, major socio-political problems; the severity of the action coincides with public expression(s) of displeasure. Examples of civil disorder include, but are not necessarily limited to: illegal parades; sit-ins and other forms of obstructions; riots; sabotage; and other forms of crime. It is intended to be a demonstration to the public and the government, but can escalate into general chaos.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disorder

* http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/James_Carville

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Sunday, April 7, 2013

Feds Identify 300,000 Americans as Terrorists

Good explanation of above is that the DHS anticipates civil unrest for such an absurd wide net.

THATS COMMON SENSE.

Considering all his lies and distortions it's no wonder that the author chose not to provide a link to the LAT article.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/05/nation/la-na-sovereigns-20130406

And even IF “sovereigns” really do “number between 100,000 and 300,000” they are not numerous enough to carry out a 'civil war' and AFAIK they do not have a tradition of acting together, not at least in violent 'resistance'

They are a lunatic fringe group responsible for numerous acts of violence including murder and are tied to other violent white supremacist groups. The federal, state and local law enforcement would negligent if they failed to keep tabs on these Nutzis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement#Incidents_involving_members

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85 Things that Might Get You on a DHS Terrorist Watch List

Because the Department of Homeland Security has asked parts of the public to report suspicious activity through theCommunities Against Terrorism” program , if you visit an airport, stay in a hotel, drink coffee at an Internet café, or in some other way interact with one of the Halloween G-men in the American public, a full-fledged FBI investigation is only one phone call away, says LaTi.

LaTi lists 85 things that might get you on a watch list, if a Halloween G-man spots you in the act::

1) Use Google Maps to find your way around a strange city.

2) Use Google Maps to view photos of sports stadiums.

3) Install online privacy protection software on your personal computer.

4) Attempt to shield your computer screen from the view of others.

5) Shave your beard, dye your hair or alter your mode of dress.

6) Sweat.

7) Avoid eye contact.

8) Use a cell-phone camera in an airport, train station or shopping mall.

9) Seek to work alone or without supervision.

10) Appear to be out of place.

11) Have bright colored stains on your clothing.

12) Be missing any fingers.

13) Emit strange odors.

14) Travel an “illogical distance” to do your shopping.

15) Have someone pick you up from a beauty supply store.

33) Act impatient.

16) Be nervous.

17) Be a new customer from out of town.

18) Use a credit card in someone else’s name.

19) Chant environmental slogans near construction sites.

20) Enter a construction site after work hours.

21) Rent watercraft for an extended period.

22) Make comments involving radical theology.

23) Make vague or cryptic warnings.

24) Express anti-U.S. sentiments.

25) Purchase a quantity of prepaid or disposable cell phones.

26) Leave store without preprogramming disposable phones.

27) Be overly interested in satellite phones and voice privacy.

28) Ask questions about swapping SIM cards in cell phones.

29) Ask questions about how phone location can be tracked.

30) Rewire cell phone’s ringer or backlight.

31) Express out-of-place and provocative religious or political sentiments.

32) Purchase a police scanner, infrared device or 2-way radio.

33) Act impatient.

34) Drive a vehicle that appears to be overloaded.

35) Depart quickly when seen or approached.

36) Be a person “acting suspiciously.”

37) Make illegible notes on a map.

38) Take photos of the Statue of Liberty or other “symbolic targets.”

39) Overdress for the weather.

40) Ask questions in a hobby shop about remote controlled aircraft.

41) Demonstrate interest that does not seem genuine.

42) Request specific room assignments or locations at a hotel or motel.

43) Arrive at a lodging with unusual amounts of luggage.

52) Make notes that are illegible to passersby.

44) Refuse cleaning service.

45) Avoid the lobby of a hotel or motel.

46) Remain in your hotel or motel room.

47) Leave your hotel for several days, then return.

48) Leave behind clothing and toiletry items.

49) Park your vehicle in an isolated area.

50) Be observed switching a cell phone SIM card.

51) Be observed using multiple cell phones.

52) Make notes that are illegible to passersby.

53) Communicate through a PC game.

54) Download “extreme/radical” content.

55) Exhibit preoccupation with press coverage of terrorist attacks.

56) Wear a backpack when the weather is warm.

57) Speak to mall maintenance personnel or security guards.

58) Make racist comments.

59) Mumble to yourself.

60) Pass along any anonymous threats you may receive.

61) Discreetly take a photo in a mass transit site.

62) Arrive with a group of people and split off from them.

63)Demand “identity privacy.”

64) Appear to endorse the use of violence in support of a cause.

65) Make bulk purchases of meals ready to eat.

66) Arrive in America from a land where militant Islamic groups operate.

67) Take a long absence for religious education or charity work.

68) Travel to countries where militant Islam rules.

69) Study technical subjects that would aid a terror operation.

70) Work in a field that “serves as a cover for preparing for an operation.”

71) Exhibit ire at global policies of the U.S.

72) Balk at providing “complete personal information.”

73) Provide multiple names on rental car paperwork.

74) Receive an unusual number of package deliveries.

75) Replace rental property locks without permission.

76) Modify your property to conceal storage areas.

77) Fail to pay rent for a storage unit in a timely manner.

78) Inquire about security systems at your storage facility.

79) Place unusual items in storage units or dumpsters.

80) Avoid contact with rental facility personnel.

81) Access storage facilities an unusual number of times.

82) Request deliveries of items directly to a storage unit.

83) Be part of a group requesting identical tattoos.

84) Request tattoos that could conceal extremist symbols.

85) Fly while appearing to be Muslim on September 11 of any year.

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The growing militarization of U.S. police

Thousands of SWAT-type raids changing face of law enforcement

http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/the-growing-militarization-of-u-s-police/

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/the-growing-militarization-of-u-s-police/#28bGvltmyPVQxLre.99

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85 Things that Might Get You on a DHS Terrorist Watch List

Because the Department of Homeland Security has asked parts of the public to report suspicious activity through theCommunities Against Terrorism” program , if you visit an airport, stay in a hotel, drink coffee at an Internet café, or in some other way interact with one of the Halloween G-men in the American public, a full-fledged FBI investigation is only one phone call away, says LaTi.

LaTi lists 85 things that might get you on a watch list, if a Halloween G-man spots you in the act::

1) Use Google Maps to find your way around a strange city.

2) Use Google Maps to view photos of sports stadiums.

3) Install online privacy protection software on your personal computer.

4) Attempt to shield your computer screen from the view of others.

5) Shave your beard, dye your hair or alter your mode of dress.

6) Sweat.

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No citations and WTF is LaTi? And the list is absurd. Using Google Maps? That would cover 10s or 100s of millions of Americans and sweating LOL?

The growing militarization of U.S. police

Thousands of SWAT-type raids changing face of law enforcement

http://www.wnd.com/2...-of-u-s-police/

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2...vltmyPVQxLre.99

Police including SWAT using abusive tactics is nothing new, we have only anecdotal evidence from an obscure author writing for a far right media outlet it has increased under Obama.

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Police including SWAT using abusive tactics is nothing new, we have only anecdotal evidence from an obscure author writing for a far right media outlet it has increased under Obama. // COLBY

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PLEASE REREAD THIS THREADS SECTIONS ON ACLU> ACLU HAS JUST STARTED A PROGRAM ON SUCH ISSUE OF INCREASED MILITARIZATION OF POLICE USA (under Obama)

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No citations and WTF is LaTi? And the list is absurd. Using Google Maps? That would cover 10s or 100s of millions of Americans and sweating LOL? // Colby

Mr COLBY ARE YOU A FRAUDSTER OR A FOOL ???DOCUMENTATION (FBI) FOUND AT LINK PROVIDED> I WILL GIVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT AND THINK THE LATTER !!!!! (Gaal)

you continually comment on posts you haven read.

didnt see below ?????

All 25 FBI flyers can be found here.

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Police including SWAT using abusive tactics is nothing new, we have only anecdotal evidence from an obscure author writing for a far right media outlet it has increased under Obama. // COLBY

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PLEASE REREAD THIS THREADS SECTIONS ON ACLU> ACLU HAS JUST STARTED A PROGRAM ON SUCH ISSUE OF INCREASED MILITARIZATION OF POLICE USA (under Obama)

Please get back to us with links to where they say such incidents (abusive raids) are increasing.

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No citations and WTF is LaTi? And the list is absurd. Using Google Maps? That would cover 10s or 100s of millions of Americans and sweating LOL? // Colby

Mr COLBY ARE YOU A FRAUDSTER OR A FOOL ???DOCUMENTATION (FBI) FOUND AT LINK PROVIDED> I WILL GIVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT AND THINK THE LATTER !!!!! (Gaal)

So readers have to go through all the flyers to find which ones are being referred to? Get back to us with links to the specific flyers which say using Google Maps or sweating are suspicious.

you continually comment on posts you haven read.

didnt see below ?????

All 25 FBI flyers can be found here.

Quite ironic since you frequently post links to text/video you haven't read/watched and the link to the flyers was NOT in the post I was commenting on.

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HUH ?? PART 1of 2

I POSTED below (Gaal)

Steven Gaal, on 09 April 2013 - 05:29 AM, said:

85 Things that Might Get You on a DHS Terrorist Watch List

Because the Department of Homeland Security has asked parts of the public to report suspicious activity through theCommunities Against Terrorism” program , if you visit an airport, stay in a hotel, drink coffee at an Internet café, or in some other way interact with one of the Halloween G-men in the American public, a full-fledged FBI investigation is only one phone call away, says LaTi.

LaTi lists 85 things that might get you on a watch list, if a Halloween G-man spots you in the act::

1) Use Google Maps to find your way around a strange city.

2) Use Google Maps to view photos of sports stadiums.

3) Install online privacy protection software on your personal computer.

4) Attempt to shield your computer screen from the view of others.

5) Shave your beard, dye your hair or alter your mode of dress.

6) Sweat.

[...]

THEN COLBY POSTED

No citations and WTF is LaTi? And the list is absurd. Using Google Maps? That would cover 10s or 100s of millions of Americans and sweating LOL?

BUT THEN COLBY POSTED

and the link to the flyers was NOT in the post I was commenting on. (Colby)

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HUH ?? THE LINK HE REPOSTED HIMSELF BY COPYING MY POST.

Communities Against Terrorism has the flyer link.

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HUH ?? PART 2 of 2

I STATED (Gaal)

PLEASE REREAD THIS THREADS SECTIONS ON ACLU> ACLU HAS JUST STARTED A PROGRAM ON SUCH ISSUE OF INCREASED MILITARIZATION OF POLICE USA (under Obama)

THEN COLBY STATED

Please get back to us with links to where they say such incidents (abusive raids) are increasing.

// Colby

MATERIAL PREVIOUSLY POSTED (I TOLD HIM TO REREAD ) ALL HE DID WAS ASK FOR SOMETHING I HAD TOLD HIM WAS ALREADY PROVIDED !!!!!!!

I TOLD HIM TO REREAD ACLU SECTION OF THIS THREAD. (???)(Gaal)

(SEE WHAT I POSTED ABOUT increasing militarization and ACLU below,the material I told him to reread)

Posted by Steven Gaal on 11 March 2013 - 04:42 PM in Political Conspiracies

ACLU

The Militarization of Policing in America

aclu.org/files/images/crimjustice/jus13-tdnt-landingpg-town-rel2.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' />

American neighborhoods are increasingly being policed by cops armed with the weapons and tactics of war. Federal funding in the billions of dollars has allowed state and local police departments to gain access to weapons and tactics created for overseas combat theaters – and yet very little is known about exactly how many police departments have military weapons and training, how militarized the police have become, and how extensively federal money is incentivizing this trend. It’s time to understand the true scope of the militarization of policing in America and the impact it is having in our neighborhoods. On March 6th, ACLU affiliates in 23 states filed over 255 public records requests with law enforcement agencies and National Guard offices to determine the extent to which federal funding and support has fueled the militarization of state and local police departments. Stay tuned as this project develops.

Consider these ten chilling stories. If the anecdotal evidence is any indication, use of military machinery such as tanks and grenades, as well as counter-terrorism tactics, encourage overly aggressive policing – too often with devastating consequences:

http://www.aclu.org/militarization (SEE LINK FOR ALL TEN)

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COLBY POSTS COMMENTS AND HAS NO UNDERSTANDING WHATS HE IS SAYING.

ABOVE IS PROOF. TWICE

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BUT THEN COLBY POSTED

and the link to the flyers was NOT in the post I was commenting on. (Colby)

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HUH ?? THE LINK HE REPOSTED HIMSELF BY COPYING MY POST.

Communities Against Terrorism has the flyer link.

Hilarious that despite all your huffing and puffing you once again haven’t bothered to look at the link. It was to the FBI’s “Community Outreach” page and there is no obvious link to the flyers on. And your dodge is noted. In my previous post I said “So readers have to go through all the flyers to find which ones are being referred to? Get back to us with links to the specific flyers which say using Google Maps or sweating are suspicious.”Once again you’ve failed to tell us which flyers supposedly “say using Google Maps or sweating is suspicious”

American neighborhoods are increasingly being policed by cops armed with the weapons and tactics of war.

But I didn’t ask you about the cops’ equipment and tactics did I? But the ACLU did add, “If the anecdotal evidence is any indication, use of military machinery such as tanks and grenades, as well as counter-terrorism tactics, encourage overly aggressive policing – too often with devastating consequences,” so they do seem think there has been an increase in abusive raids though they only cited “anecdotal evidence”. Yes I missed that but so apparently did you since you failed to emphasize it. Even if they are correct this not evidence the DHS is “preparing for civil war in [the] US”

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.No citations and WTF is LaTi? // COLBY

ANSWER WHERE THE LINK WAS All 25 FBI flyers can be found here.

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”Once again you’ve failed to tell us which flyers supposedly “say using Google Maps or sweating is suspicious” // COLBY

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WTF per Colby...its where the answer to his question was located.

If it isnt WASHPO/NYT as source he is upset . Is it me or is Colby a whiner at times ??

COLBY MR WRONG see below PER (WTF,Colby) LaTi link

http://publicintelli...porting-flyers/

FBI “Communities Against Terrorism” Suspicious Activity Reporting Flyers

February 1, 2012 in Federal Bureau of Investigation

The following collection of 25 flyers produced by the FBI and the Department of Justice are distributed to local businesses in a variety of industries to promote suspicious activity reporting. The flyers are not released publicly, though several have been published in the past by news media and various law enforcement agencies around the country. We have compiled this collection from a number of online sources.

To view the documents, click on a threat area in the menu to the left and the PDF will appear on the right side of the page. You can also
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ZIP Archive, 6.27 MB).

Threat Areas

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UNDER INTERNET CAFE ABOVE

Joint Regional Intelligence Center (JRIC)

Download content of extreme/radical nature with violent themes

Gather information about vulnerable infrastructure or obtain photos, maps or diagrams of transportation, sporting venues, or populated locations (GEE GOOGLE MAPS,Gaal)

Purchase chemicals, acids, hydrogen peroxide, acetone, fertilizer, etc.

Download or transfer files with "how-to" content such as:

- Content of extreme/radical nature with violent themes

- Anarchist Cookbook, explosives or weapons information

- Military tactics, equipment manuals, chemical or biological information

- Terrorist/revolutionary literature

- Preoccupation with press coverage of terrorist attacks

- Defensive tactics, police or government information

- Information about timers, electronics, or remote transmitters / receivers

It is important to remember that just because someone’s speech, actions, beliefs, appearance, or way of life is different; it does not mean that he or s he is suspicious.

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COLBY ASKS SWEATING ,"where"

GOLLY ANY imagination about nervousness/apprehension words Geesh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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OK Mr. Gaal I'll give you half credit for that one yes one of the flyers which I previously described as “a bit over the top” says that people who “Gather information about vulnerable infrastructure or obtain photos, maps or diagrams of transportation, sporting venues, or populated locations” be considered suspicious but pretty obviously few if any Internet cafe workers will drop the dime on someone simply for “Us[ing] Google Maps to find [their] way around a strange city” and the FBI is not going to investigate someone if they have not done anything else suspicious.

But let's say I'm wrong and simply using Google Maps at an Internet cafe might lead to someone calling the FBI and that would lead to the person being investigated or have their name added to a list, this not evidence the DHS is “preparing for civil war in [the] US”

Now be an imaginative guy and get back to us with a link to the flyer about sweating

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DHS Terror Document Lists Yawning, Goose Bumps As Suspicious Behavior

Bodily functions are now potential indicators of terrorism

Paul Joseph Watson

Infowars.com

Friday, March 16, 2012

Infowars has obtained a document from the New Jersey Office of Homeland Security & Preparedness that lists banal bodily activities such as yawning, staring and goose pumps as “suspicious activity” indicative of terrorism.

yawn-2.jpg

The document (

PDF), entitled Terrorism Awareness and Prevention, is presented as a guide for both “residents and workers of New Jersey,” along with employees of federal, state and local agencies, on how to “assist in combating terrorism” by identifying “unusual or suspicious activities and behaviors.”

The guide encourages participants to “look for signs of nervousness (sweating,Gaal) in the people you come in contact with.” “Signs will become particularly evident in a person’s eyes, face, next and body movements.”

The document then lists examples of suspicious behavior indicative of terrorism, which include, “Exaggerated yawning when engaged in conversation,” “glances,” “cold penetrating stare,” “rigid posture,” and “goose bumps”.

Of course, any of these behaviors could be explained by a million other circumstances and the likelihood that they are indications of terrorist activity is virtually zero.

However, as we have seen from recent literature put out by the DHS or related law enforcement bodies, the standard for being characterized as a potential terrorist is getting broader and broader all the time.

Last month we reported on the FBI’s Communities Against Terrorism (CAT) program, which encourages store managers and staff of numerous different businesses to report examples of suspicious activity to the authorities.

In a flyer handed out to Internet Cafes, workers are encouraged to report people who use cash to pay for their coffee as potential terrorists.

Expressing an interesting in protecting online privacy when surfing the web in public is also characterized as a suspicious activity.

In a flyer issued to Military Surplus stores, the purchase of storable food supplies in bulk, an increasingly popular trend amongst “preppers,” is also defined as a potential indication of terrorism.

Even more chilling, the feds have also begun to characterize perfectly legitimate political and economic beliefs as those held by terrorists, effectively denouncing them as thought crimes.

As Reuters reported in February, authorities are now treating those who “believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard” as extremists who are a potential violent threat to law enforcement.

Characterizing behavior which millions of Americans engage in every day as a potential indication of terrorism only serves to breed paranoia and distrust. If anything, it actually helps terrorists to blend in and not be identified, by increasing the chances exponentially of innocent Americans being mistaken for terrorists.

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Country that looks for “goose bumps” soon does goose step,Gaal

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DHS Terror Document Lists Yawning, Goose Bumps As Suspicious Behavior

Bodily functions are now potential indicators of terrorism

Paul Joseph Watson

Infowars.com

Friday, March 16, 2012

Infowars has obtained a document from the New Jersey Office of Homeland Security & Preparedness that lists banal bodily activities such as yawning, staring and goose pumps as “suspicious activity” indicative of terrorism.

yawn-2.jpg

The document (PDF), entitled Terrorism Awareness and Prevention, is presented as a guide for both “residents and workers of New Jersey,” along with employees of federal, state and local agencies, on how to “assist in combating terrorism” by identifying “unusual or suspicious activities and behaviors.”

The guide encourages participants to “look for signs of nervousness (sweating,Gaal) in the people you come in contact with.” “Signs will become particularly evident in a person’s eyes, face, next and body movements.”

The document then lists examples of suspicious behavior indicative of terrorism, which include, “Exaggerated yawning when engaged in conversation,” “glances,” “cold penetrating stare,” “rigid posture,” and “goose bumps”.

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Quotemining is a favored crank tactic. From the intro to list:

"Your judgment is the most important element in determining what is suspicious. In most cases, it may not be a single indicator but a combination of indicators occurring at a particular time and place that will accurately identify a suspicious person or act."

As Reuters reported in February, authorities are now treating those who “believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard” as extremists who are a potential violent threat to law enforcement

Ditto, from the cited article:

WASHINGTON
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Mon Feb 6, 2012 7:21pm EST

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday.

These extremists, sometimes known as "sovereign citizens," believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference.

The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.

[...]
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