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This crap was brought up and debunked years ago this very forum WTC 6 was cratered by debris from the North Tower. Jack White displayed his trademark incompetence there is no visible damage to WTC6 in the Biggert photos, the photos actually showing damage were taken in the afternoon as can be easily established by looking at the shadows which were pointing east

Bollyn is not credible; he was fired by his neo-Nazi (truther) bosses for filing false stories. Sonnenfeld is an even less credible witness he murdered his wife in cold blood and only started making his CT claims when facing extradition from Argentina. Years later he has yet to produce any of the supposedly incriminating video footage.

In the photo montage above the first frame shows the WTC complex just after the south tower collapsed, the 2nd was taken before 9/11 and the 3rd was taken at the moment of the 2nd crash but there is no dust cloud rising form 6 which is not even visible.

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IF WTC 6 SMOKE RED CIRCLE at said time of cratering , then it seems not enough debris to make crater two stories down.

The red circle is not anywhere near WTC 6 and the photo was obviously taken before either collapse. Look at photos of the collapse of the North Tower or even ones of the South Tower in the page you linked. Much of a 500,000 ton 1368 foot tall building collapsed on it. The roof was only designed to bear the snow load.

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LOOKS LIKE HOLE ,NOT DEBRIS AREA.

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http://911blogger.co...ide-connections

If vaults were empty...were they emptied before planes ?? ...foreknowledge

Wrong all of WTC was in the main debris field

And

Wow 17 minutes to reply, you do seem to live here!

Edited by Len Colby

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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BprbL4fT3CI&feature=player_embedded
  • video given before
  • explosion in WTC 6 before towers fell
  • video 4:17 customs vault looted before TOWERS FELL,found empty ,open
  • Colby photo post # 7 doesnt support his idea in a conclusive manner. Debris fell on pre-exploded building WTC 6.
  • ########### BOYLLYN ##################
  • Timing confirmed
    I contacted the archives of CNN during the summer of 2002 to inquire about the precise time of their video footage of a huge dust cloud coming from a mysterious blast that appeared to have occurred at the U.S. Customs House (WTC 6) at about 9:03 a.m. -- the same minute that the second plane struck the South Tower on 9-11. The raw video material has precise time markings, which they provided.
    As I reported in 2002, CNN confirmed that the mysterious blast had occurred at precisely the same moment that the second plane struck the South Tower:
    I contacted CNN to determine exactly when the footage was filmed. CNN's Public Affairs Department confirmed that the explosion shown in the footage occurred immediately after the second plane had crashed into the South Tower. When asked if the footage was taken at 9:04 a.m., the CNN archivist who could not give his last name, said, "That's correct." When asked if CNN could offer any explanation about what might have caused the blast that clearly reached 550 feet, soaring higher than the 47-story WTC 7 in the foreground, the archivist said, "We can't figure it out."
    The U.S. Customs House building, also known as WTC 6, primarily housed the offices of some 760 employees of the Customs Service, a department of the U.S. Treasury. A number of other federal agencies reportedly had offices in the building, including the Departments of Commerce, Agriculture, Labor, and the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms, although the agencies failed to return calls about the matter. A spokesman for the Export-Import Bank of the U.S., which had an office with 4 employees on the 6th floor of the Customs House did confirm the time of the explosion and said the employees had survived and been relocated to another location in the city. One private company, Eastco Building Services, Inc., reportedly leased space in the building.
    Some 800 workers from WTC 6 were safely evacuated within 12 minutes of the first plane hitting the North Tower at about 8:46 a.m., according to a Washington Post article by Stephen Barr, "Knowing the Drill Saved Lives at New York's Customs House" dated 18 September 2001. The Barr piece is the only known article published about WTC 6, however, Barr failed to mention the explosion that apparently devastated the building just minutes after the workers had escaped with their lives.

Edited by Steven Gaal

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Something for which there is no evidence, no witness accounts, photos or videos. In fact the Biggart photos showed the west facade of the building was intact when WTC 2 collapsed. That the hapless Jack White claimed they showed that the building was damages demonstrates how off the wall he became in his latter years.

video 4:17 customs vault looted before TOWERS FELL,found empty ,open

Something only supported by the claims of a cold blooded murderer who didn't make it to GZ till 9/18 and didn't such claims till years later when he was fighting extradition

Colby photo post # 7 doesnt support his idea in a conclusive manner. Debris fell on pre-exploded building WTC 6.

In your trademark semi-literate manner you claimed "LOOKS LIKE HOLE ,NOT DEBRIS AREA"

########### BOYLLYN ##################

  • Timing confirmed
    I contacted the archives of CNN during the summer of 2002 to inquire about the precise time of their video footage of a huge dust cloud coming from a mysterious blast that appeared to have occurred at the U.S. Customs House (WTC 6) at about 9:03 a.m. -- the same minute that the second plane struck the South Tower on 9-11. The raw video material has precise time markings, which they provided.
    As I reported in 2002, CNN confirmed that the mysterious blast had occurred at precisely the same moment that the second plane struck the South Tower:
    I contacted CNN to determine exactly when the footage was filmed. CNN's Public Affairs Department confirmed that the explosion shown in the footage occurred immediately after the second plane had crashed into the South Tower. When asked if the footage was taken at 9:04 a.m., the CNN archivist who could not give his last name, said, "That's correct." When asked if CNN could offer any explanation about what might have caused the blast that clearly reached 550 feet, soaring higher than the 47-story WTC 7 in the foreground, the archivist said, "We can't figure it out."
    The U.S. Customs House building, also known as WTC 6, primarily housed the offices of some 760 employees of the Customs Service, a department of the U.S. Treasury. A number of other federal agencies reportedly had offices in the building, including the Departments of Commerce, Agriculture, Labor, and the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms, although the agencies failed to return calls about the matter. A spokesman for the Export-Import Bank of the U.S., which had an office with 4 employees on the 6th floor of the Customs House did confirm the time of the explosion and said the employees had survived and been relocated to another location in the city. One private company, Eastco Building Services, Inc., reportedly leased space in the building.
    Some 800 workers from WTC 6 were safely evacuated within 12 minutes of the first plane hitting the North Tower at about 8:46 a.m., according to a Washington Post article by Stephen Barr, "Knowing the Drill Saved Lives at New York's Customs House" dated 18 September 2001. The Barr piece is the only known article published about WTC 6, however, Barr failed to mention the explosion that apparently devastated the building just minutes after the workers had escaped with their lives.

Bollyn is not a credible source, a racist himself he was fired from the neo-Nazi American Free Press for "filing false stories".

He is (or was) a fugitive from justice, at his trial he testified that the plain clothes officers who responded to his brother's home did not identify themselves as police but his own wife testified she saw their badges and in his writings he said he though they were FBI. He claimed their presence made him fearful for the safety of his family but he made an approximately 1 hour trip by bike to a liquor store after 1st seeing their car.

In an article about the Wellstone crash he highlighted the fact that the GOP was a Jew born and raised in Brooklyn but failed to mention that Wellstone was a Jew born and raised near DC

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Killtown Interviews 9/11 Rescue Worker Who Saw Explosions Inside WTC 6 Lobby Submitted by dz on Sat, 02/11/2006 - 5:09pm

9/11 Rescuer Saw Explosions Inside WTC 6 Lobby

Killtown: Where you one of the Ground Zero rescuers on 9/11?

Patricia Ondrovic: Yes.

KT: What was your position and who did you work for?

PO: I was an emergency medical technician [EMT] with the Fire Department of New York.

..

KT: What did you do when the South Tower started coming down?

PO: I didn't know what was happening, but there was a loud "roar" -- lots of crashing sounds. I was attempting to put my stretcher back into the vehicle. The ground was shaking and I saw a sea of people, mostly the various agencies on scene, Fire, Police, EMS, all running towards me. I had no idea what they were running from, but I decided I'd be ahead of them and just started running west towards the river.
As I was running, parked cars were blowing up and some were on fire, the street was cracking a bit as well.
Very shortly after I started running, everything became one big black cloud. I was near the West Side Highway and I couldn't see around me anymore.

..

KT: You talked about the cars blowing up in your
, correct?

PO: Yes.

KT: Can you estimate how many vehicles blew up around you?

PO: At least three and some were on fire as I was running by. I was still on the south side of Vesey running west. The burning cars were between my ambulance and about the middle of the 6 World Trade where the lobby doors were at.

..

KT: You mentioned you were running west on Vesey Street, what happened after that?

PO: I just kept running. I was aware there were other people running as well. After passing the cars on fire, I was trying to find someplace safe.
I tried to run into the lobby of 6 World Trade, but there were federal police -- maybe 4 to 6 of them -- standing in the open doorways. As I tried to run in, they wouldn't let me, waving me out, telling me "you can't come in here, keep running." As I turned to start running west again, I saw a series of flashes around the ceiling of the lobby all going off one-by-one like the X-mass lights that "chase" in pattern. I think I started running faster at that point.

KT: Did you hear any "popping" sounds when each of these flashes in the WTC 6 lobby were going off?

PO: Yes, that part was like a movie.
The pops were at the same time as the flashes.

KT: Can you estimate either how many flashes you saw or how many of these "pops" you heard inside this lobby?

PO: At least 6 before I was turned away.

..

KT: Were the explosions going off as you were entering the lobby area, or did they seem to start going off after the police tried to turn you away?

PO: It all happened at the same time. As I got to the doorway, I was told not to come in.
As the officer was telling me I couldn't get in the building the flashes starting going off.

KT: You said you saw "federal police." What exactly do you mean and did you find it strange they were in there and that they wouldn't let you in?

PO: Well, they were in light brown uniforms and "Smokey the bear" hats. I assumed they were federal police because NYC police don't look like that and I knew there was a lot of federal offices in the WTC as well as the surrounding area, so it wasn't strange to me to see them there, but I did find it very odd that they wouldn't let me in to get cover.

..

KT: Did you think these explosions in the lobby were maybe lights popping out as in an electrical surge, or did they seem more like explosives going off in a timed manner?

PO:
I immediately got the impression they were timed explosives. I have never thought they were anything else, not then, not now.

KT: Have you ever seen a building being demolished with explosives on TV and was the flashes and pops similar to that?

PO: It did remind me of just that.
I had seen something on a Las Vegas casino being demolished and that's what it reminded me of.

..

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Be sure to head over to Killtown's blog and check the whole interview out. Also, you can see a 14MB hi-res overhead scan of the damage to building 6 and ground zero by downloading this image here.

Thanks Killtown for the heads up, and this amazing interview!

Edited by Steven Gaal

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LOL more rehash! Ondrovic! Uuh she also said she saw an airplane explode over NJ after South Tower collapsed. And she claims there were explosions in WTC 6's lobby while that building was coming down but your 'theory' is that 6 had been cratered almost and hour earlier. Confused as it was Ondrovic's account contradicted White and Bollyn.

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LOOKS LIKE HOLE ,NOT DEBRIS AREA (Gaal)

Proven wrong in post #7

http://www.whale.to/...ding6cnncol.jpg (after clicking, click again to enlarge)

CRATER EMPTY DEBRIS UP AND OUTWARD (an explosion) (Jack White)

Jack’s “studies” were a perennial and ‘potent’ mix of low resolution, cherry picked images combined with inept analysis. Other better quality images indeed show the interior of WTC 6 filled with debris. And the notion "eight floors of collapsed materials should have caused a stack wreckage very high" is nonsensical, buildings are about 90% air, and the percent for areas of open floors (i.e. not including the frame) would be higher. So we’d expect a pile about 1 story tall but since the building had a two story basement it would be expected to top out below street level with debris from WTC 1 on top of that.

And not even Jack claimed that "DEBRIS UP AND OUTWARD"

Edited by Len Colby

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Killtown Interviews...

Killtown? The guy is a proven looney. He lies, distorts, makes ups, whatever it takes to maintain his own version of events (that includes denouncing other "truthers" who disagree with his views... a trait common with conspiracy theorists).

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Jack’s “studies” were ...

Jack's studies were shown to be an excellent example of how to ignore everything that actually was real and just post what you want. To call them "studies" is being kindly in the extreme.

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