Harvey and Lee: John Armstrong

[Dawn Meredith]

Follow on to S. Gall @938:

Why did the FBI immediately confiscate all the footage of the 9-11 Pentagon strike from nearby surveillance cameras?

Why did the FBI take control over the investigation of the crash in which Dorothy Hunt died? That wasn't SOP. Nor was FBI's control over the TWA 800 wreckage.

Why did an FBI official falsify so many forensic tests?

Why did the FBI illegally wiretap MLK?

Why did the FBI illegally target 1960s anti-war protestors?

My fingers grow tired typing. Surely someone has clear, clean, logical, correct answers to the questions I raise. And if so:

Please answer me this:

Why did FBI agents fear Hoover?

Was J.E. Hoover a fine, upstanding, honest man? I don't care, BTW, that he was gay. That was his business.

Did J.E. Hoover accept favors from the "mob"?

OK, you have answers re Hoover. So:

Is Herbert Philbrick the 1950s model FBI agent?

Thanks for your efforts here but these are those who think the FBI only does the job of protecting Americans, going after the bad guys. And in many instances this is the truth, but when it comes to things like the assassination, the murder of Dorothy Hunt, 9-11, etc etc the FBI is there to confuse, mislead, ignore important witnesses, intimidate others. I think this new evidence has reached an impasse here and on DPF. No one is going to change anyone's mind regardless of the logic utilized. , Now we have Parnell accusing John of lying and fabricating. I am not even going to bother reading this thread until this particular discussion is over. The horse has been long dead.

[W. Tracy Parnell]

Now we have Parnell accusing John of lying and fabricating. I am not even going to bother reading this thread until this particular discussion is over. The horse has been long dead.

If I said, "take my word for it" on some matter would you? Of course not.

[Dawn Meredith]

OK now let's attack the good George Bailey. (From his blog)

"When I first started researching the Oswald-as-double I considered it to be the farthest out I was willing to go in the annuals of the Kennedy assassination. The are wilder theories out there such as Oswald being an MK-ULTRA mind control assassin. (Hmm...would a lone nut gunman also apply here?) The idea of multiple assassins resembling each other running loose remains a troubling issue and adds a strange aura to the tragic event. It is one area that only a hand full of JKF researchers wish to examine as it is viewed as a far-out topic, one worthy of a Moulder and Sculley investigation in the the X-Files.

However, one surprising fact is the actual genesis of Lee H. Oswald as a doppelganger starts out in the highest level of government and in the upper echelon of Federal criminal investigation. Namely, J. Edgar Hoover, Director of the FBI. It was Hoover, in his 1960 memo to the Office of Security, Department of State, that basically sent a warning that there existed a “possibility” that the ex-marine defector to the Soviet Union was being impersonated and someone was using his birth certificate to do so. He doesn’t state his evidence for this nor add any additional details in the memo. In those days, Hoover’s word was etched in stone. Later, in 1961, a State Dept. official will send a memo to another, warning that the next time Lee Oswald is issued a passport, make sure he gets it personally; that way the right Oswald gets the right passport as it was suspected he was being impersonated. Again, no qualifiers for this. Apparently, it was something that was known and treated with great seriousness, at this level. The word at this point, is making the rounds.

By the June of 1962 Lee Oswald and family are back in the United States. When he returns back to Dallas as his ill-fated trip to Mexico City (known as Oswald’s Magical Mystery Tour) in the September of 1963 the CIA is recording all telephonic traffic in and out of the Russian and Cuban embassies. CIA station chief Winston Scott believed that Oswald being impersonated after examining the tapes and kept a back-up copy in his private safe. Hoover had his agents, seven of them, review the tapes and they determined the man speaking on the telephone calls is not Oswald. This man is speaking broken Russian to the Russians, and speaking excellent Spanish to the Cubans. A total reversal of Oswald’s known language skills. Shortly after the assassination, Hoover related this information to Lyndon Johnson. The new President in turn, used this for the final arm twisting of Earl Warren to get him to serve on the Commission.

So while one might consider the doppelganger or impersonator to be a nutty idea, it’s apparently not considered that at all by various authorities within the government. Far from being fringe subject matter, it is accepted as fact in these inner circles. Oswald is being impersonated but by whom is not known, at least by Hoover. Or maybe Hoover did know, just kept it to himself. Sometimes methods and practices have to be concealed so those being surveilled do not become aware of the operations directed against them. Never the less, it was important enough for Hoover to leave a paper trail on this issue warning other departments as did others in the bureaucracy. The President himself knew. Earl Warren knew and made sure it was not a topic that would be investigated later.

Lee Oswald now becomes a far more important figure that first told. After all, who wants to impersonate a nobody?

The Lone Senator And The Lone Gunman
The Senator from Georgia, Richard Russell was the odd man out on the Warren Commission. He has the distinction of being the member with the fewest amount of appearances at Commission meetings. Many people have taken him to task for this but the fact of matter was, he discovered early on that this was not going to be an outfit that was going to get to the bottom of the Kennedy assassination. He knew it was going to be “investigation theater” from there on after reading the initial, and wholly inadequate, FBI report and seeing how Earl Warren was going to conduct the whole affair. He was so disgusted with the proceedings he wrote a letter of resignation, dated February 24, 1964, but never forwarded it to President Johnson.

Senator Russell’s most important act being on the Commission was not what he did there, which was not much, but in leading his own personal inquiry into what happened. He enlisted the expertise of Colonel Philip Corso, an expert in military intelligence to research the issue. (Those of you familiar with a certain late night radio talk program that deals in the paranormal and especially UFOs will be familiar with the name of Philip Corso!) He uncovered two things; one, that there were two different birth certificates for Lee Harvey Oswald and they had both been used by two different people. Secondly, there were two different passports issued to a Lee Harvey Oswald and both had been used by two different people.

Colonel Corso’s final conclusion was there was a conspiracy, the plot leading to directly to Lyndon Johnson, allied with rogue elements of the CIA and the anti-Castro Cubans. Remember, this is 1964; it’s startling how this idea, with this limited amount of inquiry except by one man, had been fully realized at this early date. Unfortunately, there is only circumstantial evidence for many of these conclusions but many other researchers have since come to this idea of rouge government agents in a plot to kill Kennedy, especially the CIA with Kennedy vowing to scatter them to the winds. The Cubans could be counted on as well, still smarting over Kennedy not committing air support for the Bay of Pigs invasion. Never the less, Senator Russell agreed with Corso’s conclusion knowing he could never convince the other members of the Commission for this scenario. His hunch that things were fishy here with the official story and there was more to it, proved out. Years later, he would become one of the Commission’s biggest critics along with fellow Warren Commission member Hale Bogs.

The Final Phase
As we have seen, the idea of Lee Oswald having a double comes not from conspiracy theorists, or “armchair investigators” as Gerald Ford put it, but from government insiders at the FBI, CIA, Department of State, and so on. And not only Federal but State documents also confirm this. Such as a form from the Texas Employment Commission which documents a series of aptitude tests Lee Oswald completed that starts in April of 1962. As stated earlier, he and his wife and daughter did not return to the United States till June of 1962. In April, he is known to still be in Russia working at the radio factory in Minsk. A lot of documents are missing but every so often a gem like that appears to add new dimensions to the Kennedy assassination and further our knowledge on Oswald and whoever he was.

[Thomas Graves]

OK now let's attack the good George Bailey. (From his blog)

"When I first started researching the Oswald-as-double I considered it to be the farthest out I was willing to go in the annuals of the Kennedy assassination. The are wilder theories out there such as Oswald being an MK-ULTRA mind control assassin. (Hmm...would a lone nut gunman also apply here?) The idea of multiple assassins resembling each other running loose remains a troubling issue and adds a strange aura to the tragic event. It is one area that only a hand full of JKF researchers wish to examine as it is viewed as a far-out topic, one worthy of a Moulder and Sculley investigation in the the X-Files.

However, one surprising fact is the actual genesis of Lee H. Oswald as a doppelganger starts out in the highest level of government and in the upper echelon of Federal criminal investigation. Namely, J. Edgar Hoover, Director of the FBI. It was Hoover, in his 1960 memo to the Office of Security, Department of State, that basically sent a warning that there existed a “possibility” that the ex-marine defector to the Soviet Union was being impersonated and someone was using his birth certificate to do so. He doesn’t state his evidence for this nor add any additional details in the memo. In those days, Hoover’s word was etched in stone. Later, in 1961, a State Dept. official will send a memo to another, warning that the next time Lee Oswald is issued a passport, make sure he gets it personally; that way the right Oswald gets the right passport as it was suspected he was being impersonated. Again, no qualifiers for this. Apparently, it was something that was known and treated with great seriousness, at this level. The word at this point, is making the rounds.

By the June of 1962 Lee Oswald and family are back in the United States. When he returns back to Dallas as his ill-fated trip to Mexico City (known as Oswald’s Magical Mystery Tour) in the September of 1963 the CIA is recording all telephonic traffic in and out of the Russian and Cuban embassies. CIA station chief Winston Scott believed that Oswald being impersonated after examining the tapes and kept a back-up copy in his private safe. Hoover had his agents, seven of them, review the tapes and they determined the man speaking on the telephone calls is not Oswald. This man is speaking broken Russian to the Russians, and speaking excellent Spanish to the Cubans. A total reversal of Oswald’s known language skills. Shortly after the assassination, Hoover related this information to Lyndon Johnson. The new President in turn, used this for the final arm twisting of Earl Warren to get him to serve on the Commission.

So while one might consider the doppelganger or impersonator to be a nutty idea, it’s apparently not considered that at all by various authorities within the government. Far from being fringe subject matter, it is accepted as fact in these inner circles. Oswald is being impersonated but by whom is not known, at least by Hoover. Or maybe Hoover did know, just kept it to himself. Sometimes methods and practices have to be concealed so those being surveilled do not become aware of the operations directed against them. Never the less, it was important enough for Hoover to leave a paper trail on this issue warning other departments as did others in the bureaucracy. The President himself knew. Earl Warren knew and made sure it was not a topic that would be investigated later.

Lee Oswald now becomes a far more important figure that first told. After all, who wants to impersonate a nobody?

The Lone Senator And The Lone Gunman

The Senator from Georgia, Richard Russell was the odd man out on the Warren Commission. He has the distinction of being the member with the fewest amount of appearances at Commission meetings. Many people have taken him to task for this but the fact of matter was, he discovered early on that this was not going to be an outfit that was going to get to the bottom of the Kennedy assassination. He knew it was going to be “investigation theater” from there on after reading the initial, and wholly inadequate, FBI report and seeing how Earl Warren was going to conduct the whole affair. He was so disgusted with the proceedings he wrote a letter of resignation, dated February 24, 1964, but never forwarded it to President Johnson.

Senator Russell’s most important act being on the Commission was not what he did there, which was not much, but in leading his own personal inquiry into what happened. He enlisted the expertise of Colonel Philip Corso, an expert in military intelligence to research the issue. (Those of you familiar with a certain late night radio talk program that deals in the paranormal and especially UFOs will be familiar with the name of Philip Corso!) He uncovered two things; one, that there were two different birth certificates for Lee Harvey Oswald and they had both been used by two different people. Secondly, there were two different passports issued to a Lee Harvey Oswald and both had been used by two different people.

Colonel Corso’s final conclusion was there was a conspiracy, the plot leading to directly to Lyndon Johnson, allied with rogue elements of the CIA and the anti-Castro Cubans. Remember, this is 1964; it’s startling how this idea, with this limited amount of inquiry except by one man, had been fully realized at this early date. Unfortunately, there is only circumstantial evidence for many of these conclusions but many other researchers have since come to this idea of rouge government agents in a plot to kill Kennedy, especially the CIA with Kennedy vowing to scatter them to the winds. The Cubans could be counted on as well, still smarting over Kennedy not committing air support for the Bay of Pigs invasion. Never the less, Senator Russell agreed with Corso’s conclusion knowing he could never convince the other members of the Commission for this scenario. His hunch that things were fishy here with the official story and there was more to it, proved out. Years later, he would become one of the Commission’s biggest critics along with fellow Warren Commission member Hale Bogs.

The Final Phase

As we have seen, the idea of Lee Oswald having a double comes not from conspiracy theorists, or “armchair investigators” as Gerald Ford put it, but from government insiders at the FBI, CIA, Department of State, and so on. And not only Federal but State documents also confirm this. Such as a form from the Texas Employment Commission which documents a series of aptitude tests Lee Oswald completed that starts in April of 1962. As stated earlier, he and his wife and daughter did not return to the United States till June of 1962. In April, he is known to still be in Russia working at the radio factory in Minsk. A lot of documents are missing but every so often a gem like that appears to add new dimensions to the Kennedy assassination and further our knowledge on Oswald and whoever he was.

Dawn,

Where's the final quotation mark?

It's interesting that Bailey said "annuals" in the first sentence. I would have said "annals" but would have been very careful to put in both "n's".

It makes no sense that anyone would "start" a series of aptitude tests at any state's Employment Commission in one month and "complete" the tests six months later at an office some forty miles away from the first office.

The documents and the circumstances of Oswald's life (i.e. returning to the U.S. in June, 1962, and resettling in Fort Worth) suggest that Oswald went in to the first office (Fort Worth) in June, 1962 and took the entire series of tests at that time. (Unfortunately some bureaucrat or social worker confused "6/62" for "4/62" when writing down the date Oswald went in to the Fort Worth office.) Then he went into the Dallas office in October, 1962, after having relocated there. Upon request, the test results from Fort Worth were sent to the Dallas office via teletype, and were written down on Oswald's Dallas Texas Employment Commission documents so that the Commission's workers in Dallas could refer to them while trying to help Oswald find a job. That's a very simple and reasonable explanation.

Please note the "Date in Fort Worth -- June, 1962" written in the "comments" section right next to the test scores. IMHO, this indicates that he took those tests in June of 1962 and that they were teletyped to the Dallas office in October of that same year and written down on the Dallas TEC documents.

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0210a.htm

Look at it this way. It wouldn't have made any sense to have Oswald take the same, time-consuming, highly-accurate tests twice and only six months apart, would it? Or to have him start them in Fort Worth and finish them in Dallas six months later and forty miles away?

LOL

--Tommy

PS I should have become a lawyer. I would have loved facing you in court.

Edited July 14, 2015 by Thomas Graves

[W. Tracy Parnell]

"Rizzuto's" Lies

http://wtracyparnell.com/rizzutos-lies/

[Dawn Meredith]

--Tommy

PS I should have become a lawyer. I would have loved facing you in court.

Because you don't like what someone else posted and I copied here you'd like to face me in court. That's funny. I will have you know I do very well in court. So I'd relish going against you in court. Alas, have you even taken your LSAT? Get back to me when you're licensed in TX. Have a good one.

[W. Tracy Parnell]

OK now let's attack the good George Bailey. (From his blog)

However, one surprising fact is the actual genesis of Lee H. Oswald as a doppelganger starts out in the highest level of government and in the upper echelon of Federal criminal investigation. Namely, J. Edgar Hoover, Director of the FBI. It was Hoover, in his 1960 memo to the Office of Security, Department of State, that basically sent a warning that there existed a “possibility” that the ex-marine defector to the Soviet Union was being impersonated and someone was using his birth certificate to do so. He doesn’t state his evidence for this nor add any additional details in the memo. In those days, Hoover’s word was etched in stone. Later, in 1961, a State Dept. official will send a memo to another, warning that the next time Lee Oswald is issued a passport, make sure he gets it personally; that way the right Oswald gets the right passport as it was suspected he was being impersonated. Again, no qualifiers for this. Apparently, it was something that was known and treated with great seriousness, at this level. The word at this point, is making the rounds.

George Bailey-loved him in "Its a Wonderful Life".

Seriously, this has been answered time and time again and they keep bringing it up. Here, Bugliosi replies to the same allegation by Summers:

But the very preceding paragraph, which Summers conveniently makes no mention of, reveals why Hoover made the birth certificate reference and where he most likely got the idea of imposture—from Oswald’s mother, Marguerite. Hoover points out in the paragraph that Marguerite had informed the FBI the previous month that Oswald had taken his birth certificate with him when he had defected to the Soviet Union, and that three letters she had written him had been returned to her undelivered. Also, she had recently received a letter addressed to her son from the Albert Schweitzer College in Switzerland indicating that he had been expected to show up at the college on April 20, 1960, but hadn’t. The mother, Hoover said, was therefore “apprehensive about his safety.”

Bugliosi, Vincent (2007-05-17). Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy (Kindle Locations 28663-28668). Norton. Kindle Edition.

[Bernie Laverick]

--Tommy

PS I should have become a lawyer. I would have loved facing you in court.

Because you don't like what someone else posted and I copied here you'd like to face me in court. That's funny. I will have you know I do very well in court. So I'd relish going against you in court. Alas, have you even taken your LSAT? Get back to me when you're licensed in TX. Have a good one.

Dawn's a lawyer?

Wow!

I thought Dawn was an English teacher given her dressing down of someone else's poor grammar the other day.

A lawyer?

This could only ever happen in Texas!

[Thomas Graves]

--Tommy

PS I should have become a lawyer. I would have loved facing you in court.

Because you don't like what someone else posted and I copied here you'd like to face me in court. That's funny. I will have you know I do very well in court. So I'd relish going against you in court. Alas, have you even taken your LSAT? Get back to me when you're licensed in TX. Have a good one.

Dawn,

The Reasonable Man (or The Reasonable Woman if you prefer) would assume that you wholeheartedly supported everything that you had posted / quoted from your "good George Bailey."

Are you now disavowing any support for his statement, below?

"And not only Federal but State documents also confirm this [that there was an Oswald "double"]. Such as a form from the Texas Employment Commission which documents a series of aptitude tests Lee Oswald completed that starts in April of 1962."

--Tommy

Please try to get your facts straight. I took the LSAT many years ago, as you no doubt gathered from my EF "autobiography" which you read and commented upon right after I joined the EF. I did very well on the LSAT, thank you, and I'm proud to say that although I attended law school for only one year, at least I didn't flunk out. LOL In fact my Legal Analysis professor, a former U.S. Supreme Court advocate, complemented me by telling me that his general impression of me was that I was already an attorney (I was in my early 40's -- lol), and I did get the second-highest grade in my Torts class. It was my Contracts teacher who sucked so badly that I didn't even take the final exam...

Edited July 14, 2015 by Thomas Graves

[W. Tracy Parnell]

--Tommy

PS I should have become a lawyer. I would have loved facing you in court.

Because you don't like what someone else posted and I copied here you'd like to face me in court. That's funny. I will have you know I do very well in court. So I'd relish going against you in court. Alas, have you even taken your LSAT? Get back to me when you're licensed in TX. Have a good one.

Dawn's a lawyer?

Wow!

I thought Dawn was an English teacher given her dressing down of someone else's poor grammar the other day.

A lawyer?

This could only ever happen in Texas!

Bernie,

Not only a Lawyer, but a very busy Lawyer! Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[Thomas Graves]

--Tommy

PS I should have become a lawyer. I would have loved facing you in court.

Because you don't like what someone else posted and I copied here you'd like to face me in court. That's funny. I will have you know I do very well in court. So I'd relish going against you in court. Alas, have you even taken your LSAT? Get back to me when you're licensed in TX. Have a good one.

Dawn,

The Reasonable Man (or The Reasonable Woman if you prefer) would assume that you wholeheartedly supported everything that you had posted / quoted from your "good George Bailey."

Are you now disavowing any support for his statement, below?

"And not only Federal but State documents also confirm this [that there was an Oswald "double"]. Such as a form from the Texas Employment Commission which documents a series of aptitude tests Lee Oswald completed that starts in April of 1962."

--Tommy

Please try to get your facts straight, counsellor. I took the LSAT many years ago, as you no doubt gathered from my EF "biography" which you read and commented upon right after I joined the EF in 2005. I did very well on the LSAT, thank you, and I'm proud to say that although I attended law school for only one year, at least I didn't flunk out. LOL In fact, my Legal Analysis professor, a former U.S. Supreme Court advocate, complemented me by saying that his general impression of me (based mostly on the legal "arguments" I made in class) was that I was already an attorney, and I did get the second-highest grade in my Torts class. It was my Contracts teacher who sucked so badly that I didn't even take the final exam...

edited and bumped

Edited July 14, 2015 by Thomas Graves

[Tom Hume]

My hypothesis predicts that the name, "STEVEN YVES L'EANDES", is likely to be a Richard Case Nagell anagram puzzle. In fact, "Steven Yves L'Eandes" appears to be a warehouse of Nagell's ICO puzzles.

I am not finished with this huge puzzle, nor will I be any time soon. I have 20 pages of notes on this name-puzzle, and to post just what I have would probably take 50 pages to explain. So I'm just going to give you quick taste without actually decoding anything.

The first anagram to fall out of what I submit is a Nagell series of puzzles based on the name "STEVEN YVES L'EANDES", is:

"DELVE N'S EVENT ESSAY"

If you puzzle folks are so inclined, take on Nagell's challange.

The name "STEVEN YVES L'EANDES" is seventeen letters in length and houses several spelled-out numbers. If you can find this sort of thing in any other name on the planet, I'll give you a cigar.

(1) SEVENTEEN

(2) SEVENTY SEVEN

(3) ELEVEN

(4) SEVEN

(5) SEVEN ELEVEN

(6) ELEVENTY-SEVEN

(The "Eleventy' series of numbers goes back to Tolkien's Lord of the Rings trilogy)

For puzzle purposes, all of these numbers can translate to letters (ICO's key, the simplest key known to mankind, is in footnote #1)

(1) SEVENTEEN = R

(2) SEVENTY SEVEN = H H

(3) ELEVEN = L

(4) SEVEN = H

(5) SEVEN ELEVEN = H L

(6) ELEVENTY-SEVEN = LH (117)

Two prominent topics of the L'Eandes series of puzzles appear to be "LSD", and the "SDS" (Students for a Democratic Society, formed in 1960). Interesting names that come out of some of the puzzle answers are "LEARY PhD", and "ARYEH", the 1960 founder of SDS.

The puzzle series appears to work like the rest of the ICO puzzles. For example, "STEVEN YVES L'EANDES" anagrams to:

"ELEVENTY-SEVEN, AN SDS"

"Eleventy-seven" is "11-7" and this number translates to "LH". This allows us to solve the following puzzle:

"LH, AN SDS"

Or to pick another example, "STEVEN YVES L'EANDES" anagrams to "SEVENTEEN YVES LADS", and translating "Seventeen" to "R", we can make the following anagrams:

"R YVES LADS", or,

"R, LSD SAVEY", or

"A YVES LSD. R", or,

"V'S LSD YEAR", or,

"V/L SDS YEAR", or,

"V, YALE SDS"

("V" would stand for Vaganov, my candidate for the Lee Oswald person in New York. "Yves" is a common French name, which is pronounced, "IV", as in "Igor Vaganov", perhaps)

We can decode the above anagrams with ICO's binary code method and find out which are intended. The intended anagrams will generally turn into large information bearing puzzles.

As pointed out, with the collection of numbers stuffed into the "Steven Yves L'Eandes" name, we can and should single out the following letters: "7", "11", and, "17", which translate to, "H", "L", and, "R".

In this saga I submit, there are two sets of "twins", if you will, being run by Richard Case Nagell. There are the "H/L" twins, one in New York, and the other in the U.S.S.R.. And we have the twin names, "Stephen Landesberg", one with the middle initial "H", and one with the middle initial "R".

As Richard Nagell was being arrested on September 20, 1963, he blurted out for all to hear: "CAPITALISTIC SWINE!" This declaration anagrams to:

"CIA TWIN SPECIALIST"

"Capitalistic Swine" also anagrams to:

"L, I, TWIN CIA PATSIES. C"

("L" is Lee, "I" is Igor, and "C" is Case)

As Stephen R Landesberg was using his southern drawl while disrupting liberal gatherings in New York, he let it be known that he was a proud member of the "Magnolia Rifles". "MAGNOLIA RIFLES" anagrams to:

"NAGELL FORMS A '88'"

There are many puzzle answers that inform us that there are "88" puzzles penned by Richard located in Oswald's Historic Diary and how to find them. The complete list is in The Oswald Code thread. "HISTORIC DIARY", for example, anagrams to:

"RICHARD'S '88' TOY"

Back to the letters "H", "L", and, "R" in our puzzles. There is another "R" in this L'Eandes saga, the mysterious leader-type guy known only as "REGAN".

It just might be that Richard Case Nagell made a habit of teasing aliases from his own name. "RICHARD CASE NAGELL" anagrams to:

"RC CASA: REGAN, HIDELL"

The name "REGAN" anagrams to:

"RN AGE"

Richard Case Nagell was born August 5, 1930, and from late 1960 until late 1961, around the time the L'Eandes operation was taking place, Richard Nagell would have been 30 years old. The letters "R" "N" translate to "17" and "13" and add up to "30". "RN AGE", then, is somewhat equivalent to "RN AGE = 30".

And to add one final REGAN correlation, RICHARD CASE NAGELL anagrams to:

"REGAN'S CIA DECAL: 7/11/17"

Or changing the numbers back to letters for the H/L folks:

"REGAN'S CIA DECAL: 'H/L'. R"

And it might also be that Richard made a habit of teasing out puzzles from his own name. "RICHARD CASE NAGELL" anagrams to:

"A 'H', 'L', 'R', L'EANDES CIGAR. C"

"Cigar" is a common ICO puzzle term that leads me to believe I am being rewarded for the correct answer.

Here is a better one for the Harvey and Lee folks: Richard Case Nagell also anagrams to:

"L'EANDES: A H/L CIGAR. RC"

Richard Case Nagell also anagrams to:

"2 L'EANDES: A H/L GRAIL. C"

or,

"2 LEANDES: A '7' - '17' GRAIL. C"

Using the name "James F Rizzuto", Steven H Landesberg (the student) apparently gave a radio interview the day after the assassination.

("James F Rizzuto", I submit, is also an ICO puzzle, and I will get you started with it in Footnote #3)

He apparently succeeded in creating a controversy (which my hypothesis predicts was planned by Nagell), but the waters were quickly muddied by the FBI. If it had not been for the tenacity of people like John Armstrong and those on this forum, Hargrove, Josephs, Gaal, et al, we would not be talking about this.

As I said, I'm not going to attempt to solve the Steven Yves L'Eandes series of puzzles here on the forum; it would probably take me a year to do it justice. I've been working with the ICO Code for five years, I'm in over my head, and I'm burned out.

I'm going to find another audience and another way to present what Nagell's ICO was apparently up to for several years before the assassination.

"ICO" stands for "Igor", "Case", and, "Oswald", and I know very little about the Harvey/Lee controversy, but my candidate for the other Lee Harvey Oswald is someone we know as "Igor V Vaganov".

I suppose I disagree with the H/L folks here: Oswald and Vaganov (Harvey and Lee if you like) were on the same side. Igor's impersonations and stunts were big red flags, intentional puzzle enigmas for us to notice and solve. By all indications, Oswald and Igor (and Nagell too) were the best of friends with a common goal: Prevent the assassination, and if they had been successful, their puzzles would have been meaningless. But since they failed to save the President, their ICO coded puzzles established their alibi, and, with the exception of Marina's husband, gave the remaining members of ICO (Richard, Igor, Jerry Belknap, and at least two others), leverage against "the powers that be", leverage to remain living.

The ICO puzzles, I submit, will turn out to be objective. Even though the coded puzzles are based on anagrams, the puzzle-solver's anagram is decodable with ICO's unique application of 6-bit binary code. If it decodes to gibberish, you have got it wrong. But also lending objectivity to the puzzles is the fact that they refer to and connect to one-another. Any first class puzzle solver (and I'm not one, I'm a jazz bass player) would agree, I submit, that ICO at the very least had created an intentional time capsule for posterity.

Before I go, I will completely re-write The Oswald Code thread to make it readable and to correct my mistakes and misperceptions. I wrote it as I was learning, wrote it as the puzzles themselves taught me the simple keys to their solution. As a result, my thread is a bit of a mess, but the few simple ICO puzzle techniques and tools are all in there. I don't think I'm missing anything.

So long,

Tom

Footnote #1 Letter/Number translator:

(A=0)(B=1)(C=2)(D=3)(E=4)(F=5)(G=6)(H=7)(I=8)(J=9)(K=10)(L=11)(M=12)(N=13)(O=14)(P=15)(Q=16)(R=17)(S=18)(T=19)(U=20)(V=21)(W=22)(X=23)(Y=24)(Z=25)

Footnote #2 The "DT" cipher (Double Talk cipher):

A..B..C..D..E..F..G..H..I..J..K..L..M..N..O..P..Q..R..S..T..U..V..W..X..Y..Z

K..L..M..N..O.P..Q..R..S.T.U..V..W..X..Y...Z..A..B..C..D..E..F..G...H..I...J

Footnote #3 the "ONION":

The DT cipher in footnote #2 is used to double the number of letters in a piece of discourse. The ONION is used reduce the number of letters by removing all of the duplicate letters. The word "ONION", for example, would become "ONI".

Footnote #4 James F Rizzuto:

The trick to finding ICO's intended puzzle in the name "JAMES F RIZZUTO" is to realize that the name contains the word "AMORTIZE". Here is the pertinent anagram:

"AMORTIZE JF. Z: SU"

"AMORTIZE" means to spread out and reduce, and ICO's method for reducing discourse is to use the "ONION" discussed in many of my posts. The onion merely involves getting rid of all of the duplicate letters. The word "ONION" would become "ONI", for example. "James F Rizzuto" is 13 letters and has but one duplicate letter: "Z".

But before we trash one of the "Zs", we need to complete our initial anagram: "AMORTIZE JF. Z: SU".

"Z" means code work, and we have been instructed to "Z: 'SU'". Since "SU" is less than six letters (we need at least six for binary code), the only way to decode "SU" is to apply it to the "DT" cipher, and "SU" becomes, "CE". "CE" translates to the number "24", and our puzzle part now becomes:

"AMORTIZE JF 24"

There is only one way to get "JAMES F RIZZUTO" to 24 letters. Stay with me:

First we will Amortize, or "Onion" James F Rizzuto by removing the only duplicate letter, "Z": "JAMES F RIZUTO". Next, we will double the remaining 12 letters using the "Double Talk" cipher, the "DT" cipher:

"JAMES F RIZUTO + TKWOC P BSJEDY"

And finally, according to our instructions, "AMORTIZE JF 24", we will use the amortizing "onion" on the 24 letters above:

"JAMESFRIZUTOTKWOCPBSJEDY" becomes:

"JAMESFRIZUTOKWCPBDY"

Now we have found our anagram puzzle, the reason for Stephen H Landesberg to use the name "James F Rizzuto". Anagrams of the above 19 letters can be found and decoded using ICO's 6-bit binary code technique. Here is one slightly silly but very interesting anagram:

"C MAIRZY DOTES: B P 22 JFK U"

Most everyone that was around in 1963 is familiar with the song "Mairzy Dotes". It is a string of nonsense-sounding syllables that become clear as the song progresses. It is an excellent metaphor for the ICO puzzles, because as the puzzle answers get shorter, abbreviations are used. Abbreviations that the puzzles themselves teach, and the experienced solver would recognize "B P 22 JFK U" immediately as the primary mission of ICO, thwarting the assassination.

Briefly, "B" is Belknap, and he was to stage a fit in front of the TSBD, the purpose of which was to force the motorcade to take an alternative route; the motorcade would do a "U" turn. During Belknap's theatrical seizure, he was to "P" his pants big time, a world-class "PEE" that was also theater (a stopper would be pulled from a bladder hidden under Jerry's ODs, a bladder filled to the brim with urine). ICO's intent was to create a spectacle that would be noticed and REMEMBERED!

The above was a brief summery of my interpretation of ICOs plan for Jerry B Belknaps stunt. Since the puzzles were crafted before the assassination, and since we know very little about this man and the actual event of the 22nd, we dont know if this piece of theater came off as planned; merely that the planned result (forcing the motorcade to take an alternative route) failed.

"C MAIRZY DOTES: B P 22 JFK U" is for sure not the primarily intended anagram for this 19-letter puzzle. If you are so inclined, see what you can do with it.

(Note: There are two spellings for the word DOTES in the song title, the other being DOATS. Nagell used the Andrew Sisters spelling).

By the way, I'm not altogether sure that Oswald and Igor were not genetically related.

Edited July 20, 2015 by Tom Hume

[Thomas Graves]

[...]

Tom Hume,

Please give it up.

I'm beginning to think you are a paid CIA "disinfo agent" sent here to give the whole world the impression that JFK Assassination CTers (like me) are a bunch of crackpots. But I'm not quite that paranoid. Yet.

LOL

You may have noticed that no one here is seriously interested in your "Oswald's Code" analysis?

When's the last time an EF member replied to it in a positive kind of way?

--Tommy

Edited July 14, 2015 by Thomas Graves

[Tom Hume]

Thomas,

I have been on the forum for five years, and responding members have been few, and with one exception, they have been kind and apparently tolerant.

The one exception is you, Thomas Graves.

You obviously did not read my post, because in it, I said that I was finished posting.

Tom

[Thomas Graves]

Thomas,

I have been on the forum for five years, and responding members have been few, and with one exception, they have been kind and apparently tolerant.

The one exception is you, Thomas Graves.

You obviously did not read my post, because in it, I said that I was finished posting.

Tom

Tom Hume wrote:

"F-i-n-i-s-h-e-d p-o-s-t-i-n-g"

Let's break that down into its anagrams.

There could be a secret message in it!

--Tommy

Edited July 14, 2015 by Thomas Graves