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Chris,

I think Rothstein is BS artist for reasons spelled out on this and the other thread.....

In polite circles this is known as "inflating one's resume."

It is amazing how many people try to do it.

Many, dare I say more people exagerate a bit when talking about themselves, but in some cases one has to wonder if the person is fabricating rather than puffing.

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Len,

I think it's dangerous to label a person a BS artist because of a "feeling" or because their story doesn't match your expectations. What is the criteria that someone must meet to be credible? Everyone who has ever had any first hand knowledge of this case has been vilified in some way, at some time, by some "researcher". My take on Rothstein is that he doesn't care a bit what other people think and that his story hasn't changed.

I only posted this because it was made available to me by Scott Kaiser and there are some tidbits of information in this ostensibly "private" conversation that are quite interesting.

Scott Kaiser thinks his father was murdered by the CIA/Sturgis and that could be true and maybe it's not. He doesn't believe his father, Edwin Kaiser, had any involvement in the Assassination of JFK but believes that he may have stolen some papers and photographs related to the Assassination which led to his demise. Because of his father's legacy, Scott has extraordinary access to the Cuban community in Miami and it'll be interesting to see what that reveals.

My own opinion of the whole "Bay of Pigs Thing" is that the Anti-Catro Cubans were set up from the get go, that the C.I.A. knew that the invasion couldn't succeed as planned and that the hopes at the C.I.A.'s top echelon was that the failed C.I.A. incursion would be a pre-cursor to a full fledged invasion by the US Military. That having failed, plan B was to have the President Assassinated and pin the deed on Cuba/Fidel hoping that would propel the conflict. It's popular, even today, in the Cuban community, to insist that "Fidel did it", and why not? If it was revealed that anti-Castro Cubans participated in the killing of an American President that fact wouldn't help extend their current agenda at all.

I spelled out various aspects of his story that don't add up. If you want to rationalize them away, go ahead.

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Len,

You're math is full of assumptions and innuendo, hence my statement that it's dangerous to base your "BS theory" on feelings. For example, you compare the crew of the Essex with statistics based on the general population, is the data set really similar?

Another thing is that I served in Germany during the cold war. I've heard all kinds of crazy stories, some were true, some were myths but they were crazy stories nonetheless. Some of those stories involved the purchasing of people from East Germany. Your "feeling" that this wouldn't happen doesn't jive with my own personal experiences. The Bundesgrenzschutz, Spetsnaz and SMLM were always playing cat and mouse.

I, also, crossed checkpoint charlie and spent a day in East Berlin while I was in the Military. Your posts that cast doubts on this subject seem to be based on your "feelings" and not reality. It would have been extremely simple for Mr. Rothstein and his companions to enter East Berlin before August of 1961 and it was still pretty easy for me to do so in 1985.

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I find Detective Rothstein to be extremely credible. However since a few Forum members have questioned his credibility, I am posting the article by him below. Some of his material has appeared before in this topic but he has added new details that may help in clearing up some aspects.

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In early March of 1961, the Essex was at its homeport in Quonset, Rhode Island, when strange things started happening. Sailors were dispatched for rifle squad practice with a Marine leading the team. Old timers (salts) stated that this had not happened since WWII; something was up. The Essex sailed to the Norfolk Virginia Navy Shipyards. On Sunday morning, all liberty and leaves were cancelled. Train cars loaded with supplies pulled up next to the ship and the supplies were loaded onto the Essex. The word was that the Essex was going to Nova Scotia for special operations.

On Monday morning, as the Essex set sail, Rothstein was ordered to Winch #2 to prepare to take on cargo. Rothstein was the winch operator with his assistant, J.C. Adams. Armed Marines and sailors were posted everywhere; only authorized personnel were allowed on deck. The Essex pulled alongside a heavily guarded barge with two long cylinders on the deck. Rothstein loaded both cylinders on board and watched as they were sent below deck in the bomb elevator. They were “special” bombs. The Essex then headed for the open sea in due haste. When the Essex reached the Atlantic Ocean, it made a sharp turn to starboard (right). We were going south. If the Essex was going to Nova Scotia, it would have made a turn to port (left). Something big was up.

As the Essex began to near the coast of Florida, a squadron of US Navy jets was seen approaching the Essex; they did a fly-by and prepared to land. The Essex was not designed for jets; now it had been modified to have jets land and take-off. We knew for sure something out of the ordinary was going on. When it got dark, the Captain of the Essex, Captain Searcy, advised the crew that they were on a special mission. The Capt. ordered “Darken Ship and No Communication” was in effect until further notice. We were advised we were going to Cuba. General Quarters was sounded. We were going to war.

Every day after that, till three days before the Bay of Pigs invasion, we practiced for the invasion. The jets were painted white; the only markings were numbers on the planes. The numbers on the ships were painted over. The flags were taken down. When refueling and replenishing occurred, the flags would be raised as the ships started their approach and lowered again immediately.

Three days before the invasion of the Bay of Pigs, the bombing, to soften up the beach at the Bay of Pigs, started. At night we headed to the beach. The Destroyers would go closer and bombard the beach. During the day, we would head out to sea and re-supply. On the day of the invasion, at approximately 0315 hours, Rothstein was manning the helm of the Essex when Capt. Searcy came out of his quarters. The Captain’s Quarters are on the Bridge during operations. Captain Searcy informed the crew on the Quarter Deck that the President of the United States, John F Kennedy, had just ordered him to stop bombing the beach. Capt. Searcy knew that the revolutionaries would be killed. He was pissed but, “Orders were Orders.”

The next three days were spent bringing survivors and bodies on board. Rothstein again manned Winch #2 and the bodies were brought aboard in cargo nets and put in boxes and then taken to reefers. There were many cargo nets of bodies; it was a gruesome sight to behold. The Bay of Pigs was lost and it would seal the fate of John Kennedy. You do not double-cross the OP40 operatives.

One of the leaders of the revolution was CIA Operative Frank Sturgis of OP40. He was one of the operatives left behind in Cuba and was imprisoned. Sturgis and Rothstein would meet again years later. Detective Rothstein, of the New York City Police Department, would arrest Frank Sturgis when he came to New York to kill Marita Lorenz.

In the morning of October 31, 1977, Halloween day, Det. Rothstein received a call from Paul Meskil, a reporter for the New York Daily News. Meskil was beside himself. Monica Lorenz, the daughter of Marita Lorenz, had just been arrested in front of her apartment on York Avenue in possession of a loaded gun. She was to be the last line of defense for Marita. Monica was hiding in the bushes in front of the apartment building on Eighty Eighth Street and York Avenue; she was going to ambush and kill Sturgis when he showed up to kill Marita. Meskil knew that the only two Detectives he could trust were Rosenthal and Rothstein; he knew they would not back down or be stopped. The Detectives notified members of the New York State Select Committee, their present assignment, of the call. They jumped into action. They first called the arresting officer of Monica and verified that the arrest had been made for possession of a gun. The Detectives learned that Monica had gotten a gun “off the street” and could field strip a 45 like a top pro. They then set up a meeting with Marita Lorenz and Paul Meskil at a small restaurant on the East Side.

They all met at the restaurant at approximately 1100AM. Marita verified what Meskil had told the Detectives. She was very up-set, anxious, and scared. She feared for her and her children’s lives. Marita told the Detectives that she was scheduled to testify at the House Assassination Hearings in Washington, DC, concerning the assassination of John F Kennedy. Marita had taken part in the planning for the assassination of President John F Kennedy. Meskil told the Detectives that he was in possession of a tape recording made of a conversation between Marita Lorenz and Frank Sturgis; the tape was hidden at his residence in Nassau County, New York. In the tape, Sturgis told Marita, “You know what the rules are and what happens if you talk.” This was clearly a threat coming from Sturgis, a known assassin. Meskil told the Detectives to pick up the tape at his house. His son would give the Detectives the tapes. Meskil told the Detectives that he would be leaving for the Far East as soon as our meeting was over. At approximately 100 pm, the Detectives left the restaurant with Marita and went to her apartment on Eighty Eighth Street and York Avenue.

When Detectives Rosenthal, Rothstein, and Marita entered the apartment, the detectives did a quick canvass of the apartment. They saw 10 to 15 boxes sitting against the wall in the dining room. The rest of the day and early evening were spent interviewing Marita and reviewing the contents of the boxes, in preparation for the arrival of Sturgis. Marita told the detectives that the boxes contained documentation concerning OP40, the Cuban invasion, Castro, planning for the Kennedy assassination, and other covert operations that she had knowledge of. These documents were going to be delivered to the House Assassination Hearings. The Detectives believed they had more than sufficient evidence to arrest Sturgis. Marita told Detectives Rosenthal and Rothstein that the Kennedy assassination was planned at a meeting in Miami, Florida. She stated that as the meeting broke-up, there was a shootout. Later a Police Officer who responded to the call verified this event. Five people left in two vehicles for the drive to Dallas, Texas. They were Frank Sturgis, E. Howard Hunt, Orlando Bosch, Marita Lorenz, and one other. Near Natchitoches, Louisiana, after crossing a bridge on Highway (1) running parallel to the Interstate (20), they had “car trouble” and stopped to fix the car. Detectives Rosenthal and Rothstein would verify this information to be true.

On October 31, 1977, at approximately 2130 hours, Det. Mathew Rosenthal and Det. Jim Rothstein arrested Frank Sturgis when he came to assassinate Marita Lorenz, a witness to the planning of the Kennedy assassination. When Sturgis rang the doorbell for Marita, to gain entry to the building, Rosenthal and Rothstein assumed their position. They crouched low next to the door with their guns drawn and their shields pinned to their suit jackets. When Sturgis entered the premises, Rothstein placed his gun in Sturgis’ mouth and shouted, “Police! You’re under arrest mother xxxxer; don’t move.” Sturgis mumbled, “I hope you’re Detectives.” Rosenthal had put his gun to Sturgis’ chest and identified himself as a Police Officer. The Detectives searched Sturgis. Once the Detectives knew that the scene was under control, Rothstein, in a calculated move, congratulated Sturgis for assassinating President John F Kennedy. Rothstein told Sturgis that he was present when Kennedy ordered the bombing and support of the invasion to stop. The order came at a critical moment, just as the invasion of the Bay of Pigs began. Sturgis says, “The only way you can know that is if you were on the Essex.” Rothstein replied, “Yes, I was.” Rothstein and Sturgis shook hands; they were both professionals and were doing their job.

Detectives Rothstein and Rosenthal questioned Sturgis for approximately two hours at Marita’s apartment before taking him for booking at the local precinct. During this time, Sturgis was very frank and open with the Detectives. He admitted that he was on the Grassy Knoll at Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas, when Kennedy was assassinated and that he was one of the shooters from the Grassy Knoll. The Detectives received valuable information from Sturgis. Sturgis told the Detectives that OP40’s mandate was “to protect our country at all costs.” When Sturgis was asked why Kennedy was assassinated, he told the Detectives that there were three reasons. Number one was that Kennedy had double-crossed OP40 in the Bay of Pigs Invasion by pulling back the support. Number two was that he (Kennedy) had been told to stay away from the women, especially the Russian woman, Ellen Rometsch, because he would be compromised and jeopardized national security. Number three was that Kennedy was destroying the black community through his liberal social programs.

When Sturgis was taken to the local precinct, the Detectives identified themselves and told the desk lieutenant that they were booking Frank Fiorini (Sturgis’ real name). They took Sturgis to the Detectives room and began processing the arrest. That’s when things got strange. Rosenthal advised Sturgis of his rights. Sturgis asked to make a call, which Rothstein does. He told Rothstein to call Gaeton Fonzi, the investigator in the House Assassination Hearings. Rothstein was surprised that a suspect would call the investigator, and he was the suspect. When Fonzi answered the phone, Rothstein identified himself and told Fonzi that Sturgis was under arrest and wants to talk to him. Fonzi was dumbfounded. (See The Last Investigation, by Gaeton Fonzi, page 103). Shortly after the call was made, the desk officer called the Detectives to inform them that a Frank Nelson (CIA and Organized Crime in Cuba) was at the desk and was looking for Frank Sturgis, if in fact, Fiorini was Sturgis. The answer was yes. Within minutes all hell broke loose. Every big boss in the Police Department was calling to find out what happened. The Detectives finished booking Sturgis and were requested to report to the offices of John Guido and Harold Hess, two of the top bosses involved in this type of case. When the Detectives arrived at Guido and Hess’s office, they are asked if they had anything to eat. The Detectives said no. Hess sent out one of his staff to get a six pack of beer and sandwiches. He asked the Detectives, “Was it a good and clean arrest?” The Detectives say, “Yes, it was and it was solid.” Hess replied, “Good. That is all I wanted to know.” The Detectives advised Guido and Hess of what happened. Rosenthal and Rothstein were asked to arraign Sturgis and go home and get some rest.

At the arraignment of Frank Sturgis in Manhattan, Criminal ADA Broomer was assigned to the case. The Detectives informed Broomer of the tape corroborating the allegations made by Marita and Meskil. Broomer asked the Detectives where the tape was. They informed Broomer that they would pick up the tape at Meskil’s residence in Nassau County on their way back to the city from their residences. Early the next morning, all hell broke loose again. Unknown members of the New York City Police Department went to Meskil’s residence to get the tape. When Meskil’s son answered the door, he saw that it was not Detectives Rosenthal and Rothstein. The son called the Nassau County Police Department and told them that somebody was at his door trying to take evidence of the Kennedy assassination. Nassau County Police responded in full force. The New York City Cops were sent packing.

Detectives Rosenthal and Rothstein were notified by Guido and Hess of what happened; somebody had sand-bagged them and they should immediately proceed to the Meskil residence and retrieve the tape. Rosenthal and Rothstein met with the son at Meskil’s residence and the son was so proud that he had protected the tape for Rosenthal and Rothstein, as his father had told him to do. The son gave the tape to the Detectives. The detectives knew what was coming; the cover-up was started.

Detectives Rosenthal and Rothstein took the tape to ADA Broomer’s office and the tape was played. Marita and Meskil were right. Sturgis was heard telling Marita, “You know what the rules are and what happens if you talk.” Broomer and the powers to-be decided that was not a threat. The Detectives argued vehemently that it was clearly a threat coming from Sturgis and you had to be totally stupid if you didn’t understand that. The Detectives knew the fix was in. The charges against Sturgis were dropped.

The boxes of files in Marita’s apartment were hand delivered to the House Assassination Hearings in Washington DC by Marita Lorenz and retired Det. Bobby Polachek, who had been a partner of Det. Rothstein at the 26 Precinct.

Subsequently, Rosenthal, Rothstein, and the City of New York were sued by Sturgis for $16 million for making a false arrest. The case was tried by Judge Leonard Sand in the Federal Court in the Southern District of New York. Sturgis was represented by Henry Rothblatt. Rothstein was called as the last witness late in the day. He was sworn in by the judge and the case was adjourned till the next day. As Det. Rothstein was getting ready to leave the court house, he was warned by unnamed sources that his life was in danger and that he should not go home. Det. Rothstein called one of his informants, who lived in the neighborhood near the court house, and asked for her assistance. She was connected to organized crime figures in the same area. Det. Rothstein left through the back door and was safely taken to an apartment by his informant and her friends.

The next morning, Det. Rothstein took the stand to testify. Before anything was said, Judge Sand was summoned to his chambers. After an hour or so, Det. Rothstein was called to the Judge’s Chambers. Det. Rothstein was asked what it would take for him not to testify. Everybody in the courtroom, especially the media, knew Det. Rothstein was going to let it all hang out. An agreement was reached that the City Of New York was going to pay $2,500.00 to Sturgis and Det. Rosenthal and Det. Rothstein were to be commended for acting above and beyond the call of duty. Judge Sand advised Det. Rothstein that he would be called in front of the bench and, if Det. Rothstein wanted to make a statement, he could say anything he wanted to say. Det. Rothstein realized it was in his best interest to keep his big mouth shut. As Rothstein turned to leave the courtroom, Sturgis and Rothblatt shook Rothstein’s hand and asked if he would be part of their organization. Rothstein replied, “It was an honor for you to ask, but I cannot do that.” He left the courthouse.

THE AFTERMATH:

Sometime during the summer of 1983, Retired Detective Rothstein was sitting at the bar in Georgia’s Bar and Restaurant at 722 South Wellwood Avenue, Lindenhurst, New York, talking to customers. A well-dressed man, wearing typical “spook” attire, came in and sat next to Rothstein. He introduced himself as a former New York City police officer who had moved to Florida. During an hour conversation he told Rothstein that when Detectives Rosenthal and Rothstein arrested Frank Sturgis he was sent with a “bag of money” from Florida to get Sturgis out of jail. He did not say where the money came from. He knew all the facts about Sturgis. Rothstein has never seen or heard from him again and never knew why he came in the first place.

In the early nineties, Rothstein received a call from Arthur Nazeth, a reliable source in the underground of organized crime, inquiring about Frank Sturgis. Nazeth was in possession of an envelope with Frank Sturgis’ name on it and the seal of Cardinal Cooke from New York. Nazeth had received the envelope when a relative of his died, who had been a professor at one of the major colleges in New York. Nazeth asked what to do, and Rothstein told him to open it up and find out what it was. When the envelope was opened, it was the 22 page written confession of Frank Sturgis to Cardinal Cooke made in 1971. Nazeth read the 22 page confession to Rothstein over the phone. In the confession, Sturgis admitted to the assassination of John F Kennedy in Dallas, Texas, and gave a full description of what happened that day in Dallas. He also stated in that confession that the police officer, Tippet, had been killed by - - - - -?. Nazeth asked Rothstein to come to New York and pick up the confession. Rothstein was living in Maine at the time.

Arrangements were made that Rothstein would meet Nazeth at the Saston Lumber Yard on Sunrise Highway in Lindenhurst, New York. When Nazeth neared the lumber yard to make the drop, he was intercepted by authorities. Authorities did not find the confession; Nazeth was not new to this kind of game. A second meeting was scheduled at the Lindenhurst Diner on Sunrise Highway in Lindenhurst the next night. On what was supposed to be a quiet night, it was standing room only with feds when Rothstein got there. When Nazeth saw the crowded diner, he aborted the drop. Rothstein returned to Maine and waited for another day when the heat was off. Rothstein would not hear from Nazeth again till about 2007. Nazeth called Rothstein on another matter and told him that the confession was safe and by the water, and someday they would meet to finish the drop. Rothstein is still waiting. The confession verified the information Rothstein received from Marita Lorenz and what Sturgis told Rothstein when he was arrested by Rothstein at Marita’s apartment.

In the mid to late nineties, Rothstein was at a meeting with John Tunheim, who reviewed the files of the House Assassination to determine what information could be released to the public. Rothstein asked Tunheim if he saw Marita’s boxes of files that had been delivered to the hearings and the files of Frank Sturgis. Tunheim responded that Marita was such a beautiful, sweet grandma but there were no files from Marita or Sturgis. He said it was not the files that were missing, but the whole blocs of files that they could not find that surprised him. Rothstein told Tunheim about his dealings with Marita and who she really was. Yes, she was a beautiful, sweet grandma but she was also a stone killer and assassin. She was known as “My Little Assassin” in various writings.

In the late 1970’s, arrangements were made by Sydell Albert for Detective Rothstein to interview Manny Berson in Brooklyn, New York, at his residence. Berson was told Rothstein was a reporter from Minnesota researching the situation in Cuba from the Batista era forward. Berson had been the straight man for the “mob” in Havana during the Batista era. Tommy Ryan Eboli, an organized crime leader from the lower west side of New York, ran the day to day criminal operations in Havana. Havana was the center of money laundering operations for the mob, CIA, and the shadow government. Gambling was also very lucrative for the Mob in Havana and a good “front” for the money laundering.

The only other information on Manny Berson was that he had been a New York City Police Officer. The conversation with Berson lasted approximately 3 hours and had been taped. The tape was given to Maurice Nadjari of the Special Prosecutors Office in NYC.

When Castro ousted Batista, the Mafia assumed that the Patriarca crime family of Providence, Rhode Island, and the Giancana crime family from Chicago, Illinois, would take over Havana and all its lucrative operations. The mob’s involvement in getting JFK elected as president of the USA entitled them this perk. Surprise! Surprise! Castro said he would rather go Communist than allow the criminal element to use his children and women for prostitution and drugs. He had thrown out the mob. The Frank Sturgis connection in Havana and his involvement with Castro became very crucial at this point. Sturgis was out. When JFK refused to oust Castro, the mob was pissed. JFK and his brother, Bobby, felt that they did not have to honor this debt and that they were the “almighty.” How naïve and pompous could they be? It would cost them their lives.

Any investigation into the assassination of JFK and/or motives for the assassination cannot be complete or accurate if the actions of certain other people are not investigated. They are: George Joannides, Frank Nelson, Alexander Rourke, Geoffrey Sullivan, Pete Ray, and others. Of particular interest is “Big Al’ Carone, a New York City Police Officer, (bagman in Brooklyn), CIA, Colonel in the Army, and a “Made Man” in the Mafia. Carone was part of a back-up team at the airport in Dallas on the day of the assassination. Carone was a close associate and friend of Bill Casey. Casey attended Carone’s daughter, Dee’s, wedding at the Narragansett Inn on Montauk Highway in Lindenhurst, New York, on Long Island.

In the real world there are certain rules (Rules of Eighth Avenue). If violated, they will cause certain death of the violator. It is not a big conspiracy; it is a fact of life. The Kennedys violated those basic rules numerous times. Ted Kennedy was spared and compromised, but discredited at Chappaquiddick.

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From Stasi: The Untold Story of The East German Secret Police by John O. Koehler:

"Between 1963 and 1989, West Germany paid DM5 billion [nearly US$3 billion] to the communist regime for the release of 34,000 political prisoners. The price per head varied according to the importance of the person or the length of the sentence. In some cases the ransom amounted to more than US$56,000." (bold text mine- CN)

"Such ransoms were fully controlled by the Stasi."

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From Stasi: The Untold Story of The East German Secret Police by John O. Koehler:

"Between 1963 and 1989, West Germany paid DM5 billion [nearly US$3 billion] to the communist regime for the release of 34,000 political prisoners. The price per head varied according to the importance of the person or the length of the sentence. In some cases the ransom amounted to more than US$56,000." (bold text mine- CN)

"Such ransoms were fully controlled by the Stasi."

Chris,

You need to read my posts again because it’s clear from your reply you were not paying attention when you did so before.

  1. I never disputed that the USG would pay ransom for captured CIA agents. Quite the contrary, I disputed the absurdly low value Rothstein claims to have paid or that the KGB and Stasi would haggle when he was already in East Berlin with a suitcase full of cash.

Thus your citation actually undermines Rothstein claim he paid only $7500 for two American spies. By contrast according to your source the West Germans paid an average of about $88,000 per East German dissident.

2. Nor did I ever dispute that Rothstein could have crossed into East Berlin. Coincidentally I also crossed into East Berlin and even elsewhere in the DDR a few times in the mid-80s. Not sure how our experiences from back then are relevant to the reality of 1961, but the only person who indicated this might have been tricky was Doug.

3. I acknowledged that comparing the Essex’s 1961 crew to the 2001 general population was imperfect but for Rothstein’s fable to make sense we would have to assume the former for some reason was 80x less likely to speak German than the other. If you can find stats for the US military or the USN specifically post them here; ditto for the general population closer to or before 1961. Also if you know anyone who served in the USN who could shed light on this ask him/her

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Len,

I read your statement very carefully.

This reads like bad pulp spy fiction, I've never heard of the Stasi, KGB or any other intel service selling the freedom of a captured foreign spy and why would they accept such a measly sum for two Americans? Why negotiate down the price when Rothstein et. al. had so much more in their possession?

As far as haggling over the amount paid, the only first hand knowledge I have is that when I was in Armor in West Germany and we caused maneuver damage an Army paymaster would reimburse the property owner with cash on the spot. I know that a payment scheduled had been created because of the enormous amount of "haggling" that had occurred in the past. I may even have a copy of it in my files. Why had past Army personnel haggled if they had a pile of cash that wasn't theirs? Either they were directed to or they thought it was the right thing to do I suppose.

edit** fixed one spelling and one grammar error -CN

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Thank you, Douglas Caddy, for writing on this subject. When I attended a Jesuit college, one of the priests said "The Clergy should be running the country." That's the New World Order. These men can't keep their zippers up when little boys are around. We have a Constitution. The Jesuits and the Vatican want to burn it. If it ever comes down to the clergy or any organization running this country, I will leave for Canada. Don't give them their power back. They're reprehensible.

Kathy C

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Detective Jim Rothstein was interviewed this week on The Power Hour. The interview can be accessed below. Starting around minute 29 Rothstein talks about how Angleton after World War II instituted a plan to infiltrate the Catholic Church with pedophiles as a means of the CIA getting control of the Church. Listening to the entire interview is time well spent.

NYPD Insider Blows Lid off Pedo Rings in America

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU_7NS4FXDk

 

 

 

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Hello Mr. Caddy,

Any chance we can ever hear from former Detective Jim Rothstein what was in the contents of Sturgis 22 page letter?????? Pretty sure everyone in it would be dead now.

Pretty amazing man from all i have read.

Regards,

Adam

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On 2/24/2019 at 7:52 AM, Adam Johnson said:

Hello Mr. Caddy,

Any chance we can ever hear from former Detective Jim Rothstein what was in the contents of Sturgis 22 page letter?????? Pretty sure everyone in it would be dead now.

Pretty amazing man from all i have read.

Regards,

Adam

I posted the Sturgis' confession on the Education Forum years ago but it has disappeared. Also Forum postings that I made in connection with it have been edited with links being put in that I have never heard of and never had any contact with. Sturgis' confession contained one explosive statement. 

 

Frank Sturgis' 22-page confession given to Cardinal Cooke in 1971 - Watergate - The Education Forum (ipbhost.com)

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On 3/8/2013 at 11:25 AM, Douglas Caddy said:

I am starting a new topic on retired New York Police Department detective James Rothstein...

After being involved in the Bay of Pigs invasion in April 1961 while on the ship Essex, which is covered in the link above, Rothstein was still aboard the Essex in December 1961...

Doug,

Do you know if James Rothstein worked with Jack Caulfied in New York?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Caulfield

From 1953 to 1968, he was an officer with the New York City Police Department (NYPD).

Jack Caulfield, Bearer of a Watergate Message, Dies at 83

By Douglas Martin June 21, 2012

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/us/jack-caulfield-bearer-of-a-watergate-message-dies-at-83.html

“By all accounts, in January 1973, Mr. Caulfield met with James McCord Jr., a former C.I.A. officer and one of the burglars in the Watergate break-in, to tell him that the White House was prepared to grant him clemency, money and a job in return for not testifying against members of the administration and accepting a prison sentence.”

 

I was shocked one day, when doing some research on Alpha 66, I ran across Jack Caulfield's name. The NYPD;s intelligence bureau's "Red Squad" was doing surveillance on Alpha 66 up in New York.

Steve Thomas

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