JFK - The Medical Cover Up featuring Doug Horne

[Pamela Brown]

With all due respect, Doug Horne appears to have swallowed the Whitaker story whole, as evidenced in this article at the Lew Rockwell site:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/06/douglas-p-horne/photographic-evidence-of-bullet-hole-in-jfk-limousine-windshield-hiding-in-plain-sight/

As much as I appreciate his good research in other areas, I have no choice but to weigh and evaluate all his statements based on his buying into this fabricated story.

I have begun an analysis of this article on aaj:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.assassination.jfk/JeJ2x239Ywc%5B1-25-false%5D

Weigh in by all means, now If we can get beyond all your links here and to the subject, we'll of scored success.

I shall remind you this is not a discussion started by a flutist about the air pressure in JFK's limo tires.... You're fully capable of posting your OPINION, yes, concerning whatever or whomever posts here, that it!

Attempting to sound the eminent authority concerning Doug Horne's expertise, not to mention, his first person, hands on expertise-- passing judgement on his work is quite frankly, ludicrious.

You should find someone else's boat to ride. This is not LANCER.

Just a tad disrespectful, don't you think, David?

My issue with Doug Horne's article is that it includes false information. I am doing what I can to provide accurate information so that people will be able to decide for themselves what to think. Isn't that what research is all about?

Pamela,

Your link to your blog on google groups is no good.

--Tommy

Sorry. The url is truncating.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.assassination.jfk/JeJ2x239Ywc%5B1-25-false%5D

Here's the main url for the group:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.assassination.jfk

You may need to copy + paste -- I don't know where the selective underlining is coming from. :-0

Edited January 14, 2014 by Pamela Brown

[Daniel Gallup]

Daniel,

I have not read the Harrison/DiEugenio conversation. I will look at it. I like much in Douglas Horne’s work, although there are also aspects I disagree with. I cannot accept the idea that James Hume’s carried out the Pre-Post Mortem. I am on the fence regarding Roy Kellerman and initially was aghast with his descriptions of John Connally and Lyndon Johnston. I am not now quite so upset with those portraits. If I remember correctly, I believe he also posited the Bill Greer shot JFK scenario. However, there is much that is worth reading in his work.

It is a while since I have read “Inside The ARRB” I will look back over it and read this conversation. That said, I do feel Jim is being a little unkind to suggest that the only aspect or worth is the Boyajian document. Although maybe not at the top of everybody’s lists, one thing I do like and appreciate are his various summary tables. I have found them very useful.

Thanks for the heads up on this.

James.

My bad -- I meant to convey the idea that DiEugenio saw little of worth in Livingston's Kaleidoscope except Livingston's denial of the worth of the Boyajian document. DiEugenio's animus toward Lifton is second only to that of Livingston himself.

[David Andrews]

Dave Andrews,

It`s a very common procedure in the glass industry.

But within a major auto company, at one of its flagship plants? I admit I have no expertise here.

[Michael Crane]

Dave,I am a glazier by trade.I honestly can`t speak for auto glass as well as I can speak for other glass.But yes,it is common.

Edited January 15, 2014 by Michael Crane

[John Dolva]

https://groups.google.com/forum/#/topic/alt.assassination.jfk/JeJ2x239Ywc[1-25-false] is the correct link. goggle converts the slash after the hash to an exclamation when going to site hence the glitch

[Pamela Brown]

Pamela, I looked at your Google Groups beginning, but I must ask: In a nutshell, what proves the Whitaker account to be false? If there's a link to your specific findings in Google Groups, could you post it?

One thing sticks out a bit for me - the part where Whitaker says that the glassworks at the Ford River Rouge plant was ordered to use the bullet-damaged windshield for a template. If they were not yet installing the later bulletproof version, wouldn't Rouge have Lincoln Continental limo windshields in stock, or wouldn't they make one from specifications on file, rather than have to use a physical template? Perhaps I'm reading in too much, or don't understand how the Ford organization worked back then. But I don't know how the Presidential limo windshield would be different from that of any other Continental limo windshield. The major modifications to the Presidential limo would seem to have been in the length.

David,

The issue with Whitaker is that there has never been any objective documentation connecting him with anything to do with the limo. Second, his story doesn't even make sense, which gives added credence to the fact that he never even saw the limo.

The Rouge, thirty miles down the river from FMC, was used to assemble Fords. Lincolns were assembled at the Wixom, MI complex. SS100X was serviced at the Experimental Garage, which is next to the HFM.

SS100X had a stock LCC windshield on 11.22.63. If the SS had wanted to replace it, they could have had the Lincoln dealership on Stemmons Freeway to do so while the limo sat in a C-130 on the ground at LF for over two hours.

There was no need to make a 'special' windshield. Whitaker apparently had been told the limo had a bulletproof windshield of some sort of special glass. That is false. He may not even have heard anything about the limo until after it was bulletproofed in the D-2 fix in December, 1963.

Edited January 15, 2014 by Pamela Brown

[Pamela Brown]

https://groups.google.com/forum/#/topic/alt.assassination.jfk/JeJ2x239Ywc[1-25-false] is the correct link. goggle converts the slash after the hash to an exclamation when going to site hence the glitch

Aha! Thank you, John.