Was Oswald an Intelligence Agent?

[Thomas Graves]

2 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

You obviously have not read about San Saba and Norwood's new work on it.

BTW, you two should start a "bump" club,  consisting of Graves doing the bumping and Trejo doing the commenting.  Then you would really flood the board with inanities.

Or did I just reveal what the tactic was?

Dear James,

I take it you don't like the idea of a four-year-long "Oswald Project" which fabricated and kinda merged "Harvey's" and "Lee's" childhoods, after "Harvey" had joined the Marines?

Do you really prefer the longer-term "doppelganger project" in which the bad guys luckily chose two eight-year-old boys who grew up looking sufficiently alike be able to fool witnesses, after the assassination, that they had dealt with "Harvey" instead of that mysterious "Lee" (what did end up happening to him, anyway? -- Is he living with Jason Bourne and his girlfriend in Goa, India?) ?

--  Tommy

Edited March 28, 2017 by Thomas Graves

[Paul Trejo]

On ‎3‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 7:56 AM, Jim Hargrove said:

20 Facts Indicating the Oswald Project Was Run by the CIA

1. CIA accountant James Wilcott said he made payments to an encrypted account for “Oswald or the Oswald Project.”

2. Antonio Veciana said he saw LHO meeting with CIA’s Maurice Bishop/David Atlee Phillips in Dallas in August 1963.

3. A 1978 CIA memo indicates that a CIA operations officer “had run an agent into the USSR, that man having met a Russian girl and eventually marrying her,” a case very similar to Oswald’s and clearly indicating that the Agency ran a “false defector” program in the 1950s.

4. Robert Webster and LHO "defected" a few months apart in 1959, both tried to "defect" on a Saturday, both possessed "sensitive" information of possible value to the Russians, both were befriended by Marina Prusakova, and both returned to the United States in the spring of 1962.

5. Richard Sprague, Richard Schweiker, and CIA agents Donald Norton and Joseph Newbrough all said LHO was associated with the CIA. 

6. CIA employee Donald Deneslya said he read reports of a CIA agent who had worked at a radio factory in Minsk and returned to the US with a Russian wife and child.

7. Kenneth Porter, employee of CIA-connected Collins Radio, left his family to marry (and no doubt monitor) Marina Oswald after LHO’s death.

8. George Joannides, case officer and paymaster for DRE (which LHO had attempted to infiltrate) was put in charge of lying to the HSCA and never told them of his relationship to DRE.

9. For his achievements, Joannides was given a medal by the CIA.

10. FBI took Oswald off the watch list at the same time a CIA cable gave him a clean bill of political health, weeks after Oswald’s New Orleans arrest and less than two months before the assassination.

11. Oswald’s lengthy “Lives of Russian Workers” essay reads like a pretty good intelligence report.

12. Oswald’s possessions were searched for microdots.

13. Oswald owned an expensive Minox spy camera, which the FBI tried to make disappear.

14. Even the official cover story of the radar operator near American U-2 planes defecting to Russia, saying he would give away all his secrets, and returning home without penalty smells like a spy story.

15. CIA Richard Case Nagell clearly knew about the plot to assassinate JFK and LHO’s relation to it, but the CIA ignored his warnings.

16. LHO always seemed poor as a church mouse, until it was time to go “on assignment.”  For his Russian adventure, we’re to believe he saved all the money he needed for first class European hotels and private tour guides in Moscow from the non-convertible USMC script he saved. In the summer of 1963, he once again seemed to have enough money to travel abroad to Communist nations.

17. To this day, the CIA claims it never interacted with Oswald, that it didn’t even bother debriefing him after the “defection.” What utter bs….

18. After he “defected” to the Soviet Union in 1959, bragging to U.S. embassy personnel in Moscow that he would tell the Russians everything he knew about U.S. military secrets, he returns to the U.S. without punishment and is then in 1963 given the OK to travel to Cuba and the Soviet Union again!

19. Allen Dulles, the CIA director fired by JFK, and the Warren Commission clearly wanted the truth hidden from the public to protect sources and methods of intelligence agencies such as the CIA. Earl Warren said, “Full disclosure was not possible for reasons of national security.”

20. President Kennedy and the CIA clearly were at war with each other in the weeks immediately before his assassination, as evidenced by Arthur Krock's infamous defense of the Agency in the Oct. 3, 1963 New York Times. “Oswald” was the CIA’s pawn.

 

HERE ARE 20 FACTS SHOWING WHY THE ABOVE 20 "FACTS" ARE INCORRECT

1. CIA accountant James Wilcott was responding to rumors that he overheard from CIA field agents.  They were teasing him.

2. Antonio Veciana saw LHO meeting with CIA’s Maurice Bishop/David Atlee Phillips in Dallas in August 1963 -- in the context of plotting to assassinate Fidel Castro.

3. There were many, many “agent into the USSR," who "met Russian girls" and some who "eventually marryied them" and some were part of a “false defector” program in the 1950s. That proves NOTHING about Oswald.

4. Robert Webster was part of the "false defector" program.  Minsk was where the USSR kept tabs on these guys.  It's no suprise that they met many girls, including Marina Prusakova, at Communist Youth dances in town.  So did many other guys.

5. Richard Sprague, Richard Schweiker, and CIA agents Donald Norton and Joseph Newbrough are all entitled to their opinions -- but the US Government did not allow them to see the secret documents being withheld about LHO.  So they were simply guessing.

6. Even if CIA employee Donald Deneslya was not spreading rumors and gossip, it is certainly possible for a CIA agent to work at a radio factory in Minsk and return to the US with a Russian wife and child -- without being Lee Harvey Oswald.

7.  Kenneth Porter was not a CIA Agent -- just because he worked for a radio factory that some people claim was "CIA connected," what ever that cloak-and-dagger term might mean. It's silly to imagine that a marriage to Marina Oswald was about "monitoring her" for life, to see if she would finally crack and admit she was a KGB agent.

8. George Joannides was a CIA agent close to DRE (which Oswald failed to infiltrate).  Like all CIA officers, he was expected to keep his mouth shut about all CIA business; for life.   It proves NOTHING.

9. George Joannides received a medal by the CIA for a lifetime of service.  That proves NOTHING about Lee Harvey Oswald.

10.  The FBI kept Oswald on its watch list after the New Orleans arrest, so your "facts" are wrong.  Also, Guy Banister and the Radical Right controlled Oswald, and the CIA only hoped that Oswald could be used to kill Fidel Castro, but they did not *hire* Oswald -- because he wasn't smart enough.  Oswald couldn't drive, he could hardly spell, and he couldn't play well with others.  Oswald was a loose cannon -- not CIA material.

11. Oswald’s lengthy “Lives of Russian Workers” essay is a useless travellog with no useful intelligence about any individual operators.  Oswald hoped to sell it in the USA, but nobody wanted to buy it.  George DeMohrenschildt just laughed at it.

12. Oswald had written the word 'microdots' in his personal notebook.  No genuine CIA agent is so sloppy.  So, of course the US Government was obliged to search his possessions for microdots after seeing that word.  They found none at all.

13. That Minox camera belonged to Michael Paine, not to Oswald.

14. Oswald was a radar operator in the Marines.  According to CIA agent Victor Marchetti, Oswald probably entered the USSR as part of an ONI "dangle operation" which is a training mission for beginners.  Oswald was 19 when he entered the USSR. Oswald never gave up his US passport; he never applied for Russian citizenship; he never joined the Communist Party.  The USSR was glad to get rid of him.   There's no spy story there.

15. CIA Richard Case Nagell knew something about plots to assassinate Fidel Castro, and rumors to assassinate JFK, and he knew Oswald was mixed up in it somehow, but Nagell was so confused and confusing that his stories about it are hopelessly muddled.   The only clear statement was that he threated Oswald that if Oswald had succeeded in getting an instant passage into Cuba from Mexico City, that he would kill Oswald dead in order to protect his own identity as a double-agent between the CIA and the KGB.  That's it. 

16. Oswald had today's equivalent of $16,000 in cash when he quit the Marines in 1959, because he saved almost all of money during his two years in the Marines.  He spent two days at luxury hotels in Europe before he went to the USSR.  In the summer of 1963, however, Oswald had to send Marina, who was eight months pregnant, to live with Ruth Paine in Texas because Oswald had no health insurance, no money of his own, and she had not seen a doctor during her whole pregnancy.  Oswald traveled to Mexico City -- playing superspy and trying to get an instant passage into Cuba (probably with money from Guy Banister).  Oswald failed to get to Cuba.  He came back to the USA with his tail between his legs.

17. Actually, David Atlee Phillips, in his novel, The AMLASH Legacy (1988) admits that he participated in the sheep-dip of Oswald in New Orleans and in Mexico City in order to assassinate Fidel Castro.  That intrigue was probably Oswald's real reason for going to Mexico City -- but his manager was Guy Banister -- a segregationist fanatic in New Orleans -- not the CIA.

18. Oswald returned to the USA in 1962 without punishment, because the State Department was satisfied that he was clean.  That is, Oswald did not give up his US passport; Oswald did not apply for USSR citizenship; and Oswald did not join the Communist Party in the USSR.  He was clean.  Also, nobody gave Oswald "permission" to travel to Cuba and the USSR again -- in fact, Oswald FAILED to get into Cuba.

19. Allen Dulles agreed to cooperate with Hoover, Warren and LBJ in the National Security urgency to prevent the world from knowing that the Radical Right killed JFK, because otherwise the USSR and the Communists would have scored big propaganda victories.

20. It is false to claim that JFK was at war with the CIA.  Although JFK said he would tear the CIA into a thousand pieces -- when he calmed down he actually increased funding for the CIA.  JFK himself started Operation Mongoose, which RFK monitored.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited April 17, 2017 by Paul Trejo
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[James DiEugenio]

The last three points above show just why PT is such a poor researcher and why his long, pretentious numbered posts  should be ignored. (And I could do with the rest what I do below.)

18.  To even begin to discuss Oswald's return from Russia without detailing Snyder and Redskin (credit to Greg Parker), and how Snyder handled Webster and Oswald in similar ways, is simply incomprehensible. And to ignore the intervention at INS to get Marina in over original objections, and Bouhe's shock at this--to do that is to write propaganda.

19. Dulles lobbied his way onto the WC, the only person to my knowledge who did that.  And once he was on, by cooperating with the FBI and Angleton they rehearsed answers to questions about Oswald being an intel agent.  This was one of the largest and most deliberate cover ups during the entire WC proceedings.  Just look at the whole 544 Camp Street fraud and the FBI cover up of the Clinton/Jackson incident.

20.  This last one is a laugher, sounds like Bugliosi.  In a span of over a half century, Kennedy was the only president since the CIA's inception to do an investigation into a CIA blunder and then fire the top three officers in the Agency.  He told more than one person that he was trying to get control of the Agency; that they did things he did not approve of, like plotting to kill Lumumba. He even said this to the French ambassador during the attempt to overthrow DeGaulle--something Dulles backed against JFK's wishes.  He even put Schlesinger to work on a whole redesign of the CIA, WHICH INCLUDED A NEW NAME!

Kennedy did not start MONGOOSE.  If one looks at the memos issued after the disaster of Bay of Pigs, Rostow, the JCS and the CIA wanted either a blockade or invasion of Cuba. 

At a meeting of the NSC on May 5th, McNamara outlined a program in which the CRC would continue, but that special forces would be used to try and unseat Castro.  After that meeting, there was much talk, and exchange of memos between Rusk, the CIA and McNamara as to how this would proceed, who would run it, and where the planning and training would take place.  That took another seven months.  By which time Dulles, Cabell and Bissell were gone.  

RFK was the ombudsman for the specific reason that JFK did not trust the CIA to handle something like this. That is also why Lansdale and Taylor also supervised it.  After Kennedy issued NSAMs 55, 56, and 57 the Pentagon had a major role in these types of large scale operations.   That is why Prouty knew so much about it as is shown in Stone's film JFK.

Its one thing to have opinions.  But its another thing  to--in order to express those opinions-- ignore the established record.

 

Edited April 17, 2017 by James DiEugenio

[Roger DeLaria]

Jim,

Did Kenedy know that Lansdale was really CIA working for Dulles? I was under the impression(maybe incorrectly) that he thought Lansdale was just air force.

 

Edited April 17, 2017 by Roger DeLaria

[James DiEugenio]

I would think that Kennedy did not know.

IF you look at the opening of Newman's JFK and Vietnam and that whole discussion Kennedy has about Vietnam with him and his entertaining actually making him ambassador to Saigon, it would seem to me that he did not know.  In fact, in his files at Hoover institute he writes that he did not tell anyone this who did not know already.  

Edited April 17, 2017 by James DiEugenio

[Michael Clark]

7 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:

 

HERE ARE 20 FACTS SHOWING WHY THE ABOVE 20 "FACTS" ARE INCORRECT

1. CIA accountant James Wilcott was responding to rumors that he overheard from CIA field agents.  They were teasing him.

2. Antonio Veciana saw LHO meeting with CIA’s Maurice Bishop/David Atlee Phillips in Dallas in August 1963 -- in the context of plotting to assassinate Fidel Castro.

3. There were many, many “agent into the USSR," who "met Russian girls" and some who "eventually marryied them" and some were part of a “false defector” program in the 1950s. That proves NOTHING about Oswald.

4. Robert Webster was part of the "false defector" program.  Minsk was where the USSR kept tabs on these guys.  It's no suprise that they met many girls, including Marina Prusakova, at Communist Youth dances in town.  So did many other guys.

5. Richard Sprague, Richard Schweiker, and CIA agents Donald Norton and Joseph Newbrough are all entitled to their opinions -- but the US Government did not allow them to see the secret documents being withheld about LHO.  So they were simply guessing.

6. Even if CIA employee Donald Deneslya was not spreading rumors and gossip, it is certainly possible for a CIA agent to work at a radio factory in Minsk and return to the US with a Russian wife and child -- without being Lee Harvey Oswald.

7.  Kenneth Porter was not a CIA Agent -- just because he worked for a radio factory that some people claim was "CIA connected," what ever that cloak-and-dagger term might mean. It's silly to imagine that a marriage to Marina Oswald was about "monitoring her" for life, to see if she would finally crack and admit she was a KGB agent.

8. George Joannides was a CIA agent close to DRE (which Oswald failed to infiltrate).  Like all CIA officers, he was expected to keep his mouth shut about all CIA business; for life.   It proves NOTHING.

9. George Joannides received a medal by the CIA for a lifetime of service.  That proves NOTHING about Lee Harvey Oswald.

10.  The FBI kept Oswald on its watch list after the New Orleans arrest, so your "facts" are wrong.  Also, Guy Banister and the Radical Right controlled Oswald, and the CIA only hoped that Oswald could be used to kill Fidel Castro, but they did not *hire* Oswald -- because he wasn't smart enough.  Oswald couldn't drive, he could hardly spell, and he couldn't play well with others.  Oswald was a loose cannon -- not CIA material.

11. Oswald’s lengthy “Lives of Russian Workers” essay is a useless travellog with no useful intelligence about any individual operators.  Oswald hoped to sell it in the USA, but nobody wanted to buy it.  George DeMohrenschildt just laughed at it.

12. Oswald had written the word 'microdots' in his personal notebook.  No genuine CIA agent is so sloppy.  So, of course the US Government was obliged to search his possessions for microdots after seeing that word.  They found none at all.

13. That Minox camera belonged to Michael Paine, not to Oswald.

14. Oswald was a radar operator in the Marines.  According to CIA agent Victor Marchetti, Oswald probably entered the USSR as part of an ONI "dangle operation" which is a training mission for beginners.  Oswald was 19 when he entered the USSR. Oswald never gave up his US passport; he never applied for Russian citizenship; he never joined the Communist Party.  The USSR was glad to get rid of him.   There's no spy story there.

15. CIA Richard Case Nagell knew something about plots to assassinate Fidel Castro, and rumors to assassinate JFK, and he knew Oswald was mixed up in it somehow, but Nagell was so confused and confusing that his stories about it are hopelessly muddled.   The only clear statement was that he threated Oswald that if Oswald had succeeded in getting an instant passage into Cuba from Mexico City, that he would kill Oswald dead in order to protect his own identity as a double-agent between the CIA and the KGB.  That's it. 

16. Oswald had today's equivalent of $16,000 in cash when he quit the Marines in 1959, because he saved almost all of money during his two years in the Marines.  He spent two days at luxury hotels in Europe before he went to the USSR.  In the summer of 1963, however, Oswald had to send Marina, who was eight months pregnant, to live with Ruth Paine in Texas because Oswald had no health insurance, no money of his own, and she had not seen a doctor during her whole pregnancy.  Oswald traveled to Mexico City -- playing superspy and trying to get an instant passage into Cuba (probably with money from Guy Banister).  Oswald failed to get to Cuba.  He came back to the USA with his tail between his legs.

17. Actually, David Atlee Phillips, in his novel, The AMLASH Legacy (1988) admits that he participated in the sheep-dip of Oswald in New Orleans and in Mexico City in order to assassinate Fidel Castro.  That intrigue was probably Oswald's real reason for going to Mexico City -- but his manager was Guy Banister -- a segregationist fanatic in New Orleans -- not the CIA.

18. Oswald returned to the USA in 1962 without punishment, because the State Department was satisfied that he was clean.  That is, Oswald did not give up his US passport; Oswald did not apply for USSR citizenship; and Oswald did not join the Communist Party in the USSR.  He was clean.  Also, nobody gave Oswald "permission" to travel to Cuba and the USSR again -- in fact, Oswald FAILED to get into Cuba.

19. Allen Dulles agreed to cooperate with Hoover, Warren and LBJ in the National Security urgency to prevent the world from knowing that the Radical Right killed JFK, because otherwise the USSR and the Communists would have scored big propaganda victories.

20. It is false to claim that JFK was at war with the CIA.  Although JFK said he would tear the CIA into a thousand pieces -- when he calmed down he actually increased funding for the CIA.  JFK himself started Operation Mongoose, which RFK monitored.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Item 2, TREJO fiction.

"2. Antonio Veciana saw LHO meeting with CIA’s Maurice Bishop/David Atlee Phillips in Dallas in August 1963 -- in the context of plotting to assassinate Fidel Castro."

Paul, Veciana said that he heard nothing said between LHO and Bishop. LHO left after briefly seeing the other two. AV and Bisop talked alone. You have twisted your words to imply what you want. If LHO and Bishop met after AV was done with Bishop we have no record of that conversation or what it was about. 

 

Paul, your items 14 and 18'above is more of your fiction. It has already been pointed out to you.

 

14. Oswald was a radar operator in the Marines.  According to CIA agent Victor Marchetti, Oswald probably entered the USSR as part of an ONI "dangle operation" which is a training mission for beginners.  Oswald was 19 when he entered the USSR. Oswald never gave up his US passport; he never applied for Russian citizenship; he never joined the Communist Party.  The USSR was glad to get rid of him.   There's no spy story there.

18. Oswald returned to the USA in 1962 without punishment, because the State Department was satisfied that he was clean.  That is, Oswald did not give up his US passport; Oswald did not apply for USSR citizenship; and Oswald did not join the Communist Party in the USSR.  He was clean.  Also, nobody gave Oswald "permission" to travel to Cuba and the USSR again -- in fact, Oswald FAILED to get into Cuba.

 

Your fiction appears everywhere but specifically, on this thread:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/20479-bill-simpichs-state-secret/&page=19#comment-348679

 

PAUL TREJO wrote:

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Also, the fact that LHO never surrendered his US passport -- smart move.  

Also, the fact that LHO never applied for Soviet citizenship.  Very smart.  

Also, the fact that LHO refused to join the Communist Party there -- though continually invited.   Also smart.

 

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

it was pointed out that you were wrong:

Warren Commission Exhibit 24. The Diary of LHO:

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Oct. 16. Arrive from Helsinki by train; am met by Intourest Repre. and in car to Hotel "Berlin". Reges. as. "studet" 5 day Lux. tourist. Ticket.) Meet my Intorist guied Rhimma Sherikova I explain to her I wish to appli. for Rus. citizenship. She is flabbergassed, but aggrees to help. She checks with her boss, main office Intour; than helps me add. a letter to Sup. Sovit asking for citizenship, mean while boss telephons passport & visa office and notifies them about me. 

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Oct. 31. I make my dision. Getting passport at 12"O0 ..... I catch a taxi, "American Embassy" I say. 12"30, I arrive American Embassy, I walk in and say to the receptionist 'I would like to see the Consular" she points at a large lager and says "If you are a tourist please register". I take out my American passport and lay it in the desk, I have come to dissolve my American citizenship. I saymatter-of-factly she rises and enters the office of Richard Snyder American Head Consular in Moscow at that time. He invites me to sit down. He finishes a letter he is typing and than ask what he can do for me. I tell him I have decided to take Soviet citezenship and would like to dissolve my U.S. Citizenship.....

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July - I decided to take my two week vacation and travel to Moscow (without police permission) to the American Embassy to see about geting my U. S. passport back and make arrangements for my wife to enter the U. S. with me.

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There is no mention at all, in his diary, of joining the Communist Party, not joining the Communist Party, nor of being invited to join the Communist Party, much less being 'Continually invited to join the party", while in The USSR.

LHO's diary is corroborated by Russian documents regarding LHO and given to Bill Clinton by Boris Yeltsin in 1992.

 

Paul, it is impossible to follow you around and pick-up after you. You repeat false and fantastic claims without citing any sources.

 

Edited April 17, 2017 by Michael Clark

[Paul Trejo]

James DiEugenio continues to refer to John Newman (1993) as his source for Oswald's Mexico City period, which shows how out-of-date his JFK research remains.

My final three points in my response to the "Harvey and Lee" science fiction series remain correct -- despite the cloak-and-dagger intrigue which is still used to sell books today.

18. Oswald returned to the USA in 1962 without punishment, because the State Department was satisfied that he was clean. 

• State Department records reported this in 1962, as well as in 1964 to the Warren Commission.  Granted that the WC was biased in its insistence upon a Lone Shooter theory, that doesn't mean that all the witnesses to the WC were unreliable.
• The facts remain:  Oswald never gave up his US passport; Oswald did not apply for USSR citizenship; and Oswald did not join the Communist Party in the USSR. 
• If James Eugenio has actual evidence to disprove any of these facts, let him show the evidence -- instead of hinting at some cloak-and-dagger conspiracy of mystery that can sell books.
• Also, nobody gave Oswald "permission" to travel to Cuba and the USSR again -- in fact, Oswald failed miserably to get into Cuba.

19. Allen Dulles agreed to cooperate with Hoover, Warren and LBJ in the interest of National Security.

• The whole world had to remain ignorant of the fact that the US Radical Right killed JFK in 1963.
• The main reason was that the USSR and other Communists would have scored major propaganda victories.

20. Although JFK said he would tear the CIA into a thousand pieces -- when he calmed down he actually increased funding for the CIA.  

• JFK himself started Operation Mongoose
• RFK himself monitored Operation Mongoose.

This liberal portrait of JFK, that he was some martyr for the Left, is a fiction of the Radical RIght, and only serves to keep protecting the US Radical Right from scrutiny in the conspiracy to assassinate JFK.

I don't believe that James DiEugenio is doing this deliberately -- I think James is fumbling along today as he did in the 1990's, from one cloak-and-dagger fiction to the next.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited April 29, 2017 by Paul Trejo

[Michael Clark]

23 minutes ago, Paul Trejo said:

 

 

18. Oswald returned to the USA in 1962 without punishment, because the State Department was satisfied that he was clean. 

 

• The facts remain:  Oswald never gave up his US passport; Oswald did not apply for USSR citizenship; and Oswald did not join the Communist Party in the USSR. 

 

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

 

Paul, You keep repeating that claim.

Perhaps you are aware of some evidence that backs-up your repeated claim? If you do have such evidence I would be interested in seeing it, because I have repeatedly posted evidence to the contrary.

 

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Diary of LHO:

Oct.16. Arrive from Helsinki by train ;am met by Intourest Repre.and in car to Hotel "Berlin". Reges. as. "studet" 5 day Lux .tourist. Ticket.) Meet my Intorist guied Rimma Sherikova I explain to her I wish to appli. for Rus.citizenship. She is flabber;assed, but aggrees to help. She checks with her boss, main officeIntour;than helps me add.a letter to Sup.Sovit asking for citizenship, mean while boss telephone passport & visa office and notifies them about me. 

Oct.31. I make my dision. Getting passport at 12"00 I meet and talk with Rimma for a few minutes she says:stay in your room and eat well, I don't tell her about what I intend to do since I know she would not approve. After she leaves I wait a few minutes and than I catch a taxi, "American Embassy" I say. 12"30, I arrive American Embassy, I walk in and say to the receptionist `I would like to see the Consular" she points at a large lager and says"if you a tourist please register". I take out my American passport and lay it o the desk. "I have come to dissolve my American citizenship. I saymatter-of-factly she rises and enters the office of Richard Snyder 

American Head Consular in Moscow at that time. He invites me to sit r down. He finishes a letter he is typing and then asks what he can do for me. I tell him I have dicided to take Soviet citizenship and would like to leagly dissolve my U .S.citizenship. His assitant (now Head Consular) McVickers e looks up from his work . Snyder serys- takes down personall Information, 

Jan.5. ........I wrote my brother & mother letters in which I said "I do not wish to every contact you again." Iam defining a new life and I don't wand any part of the old".

July - I decided to take my two week vacation and travel to Moscow (without police permission) to the American Embassy to see about getting my US passport back."

Edited April 29, 2017 by Michael Clark

[Bill Simpich]

I saw this thread - just wanted to add the comment that Moskalev is described as "a dark blond" - also here, which adds the enticing detail that Moskalev's wife was Vera Nikolayevna - the same patronym as Marina Oswald - is there some spycraft going on here?

[Bill Simpich]

Yuri Moskalev was believed by the CIA to be the probable "mystery man" that Win Scott ID'd on 11/22/63 as Lee Harvey Oswald.

 

[Joe Bauer]

37 minutes ago, Bill Simpich said:

I saw this thread - just wanted to add the comment that Moskalev is described as "a dark blond" - also here, which adds the enticing detail that Moskalev's wife was Vera Nikolayevna - the same patronym as Marina Oswald - is there some spycraft going on here?

Just coincidence? Is that a common Russian patronym name?

[Karl Hilliard]

23 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

Just coincidence? Is that a common Russian patronym name?

Sure. If the father's first name is Nicolai...the daughter's middle name would become Nikolayevna.

[Robert Morrow]

Was Oswald an intelligence agent? How did Oswald KNOW about the recall of Cuban Consul Eusebio Azque when it was not a publicly announced fact? Oswald mailed a letter to the Soviet Embassy on Nov. 12, 1963. How did Oswald know the Cuban Consul had been replaced as he mentions in his letter to the Soviets?

From Human Events, November 29, 1967.

My *opinion* which I freely give is Lee Harvey Oswald was a CIA agent, an important but still low level fake defector to the USSR and when he came back to the USA he had a fake, public personna of being a "pro Castro Marxist" as he worked to undermine the Fair Play for Cuba Committee and spy on the Left in New Orleans.