New Book!

[Paul Trejo]

Just my opinion,

--Paul Trejo

And a very good opinion, I sure have no problem with it. But a few comments. I have been reading about the JFK murder since the Warren Report came out, then especially started reading a lot about it with Rush to Judgment and 6 Seconds in Dallas. I have never thought that LHO killed JFK. I have seen absolutely no evidence of it since 1963. All LN books follow the same pattern, they all believe the WCR hook line and sinker. No questions asked.

I have no idea how many JFK books I have read, very very many, and, in fact, have forgotten many that I've read. I've started a few that are so silly and ridiculous that I didn't bother to finish them. O'Reilly's book, Killing Kennedy fits in that category. Warren Report all the way. The book DVP assisted on this year was like that. Complete waste of time.

I don't know who I think was responsible for the killing and it doesn't seem to be very important exactly who it was because he/they totally got away with it, apparently with the approval of many very high people in the US government. (Which includes the military.)

Think about your statement: "However, that book only proves that the US Government lied about the JFK Cover-up" Did the US Government 'lie' about the cover-up? Let me make a simple statement of the scenario, it goes something like this: Ok, fellows, we are going ahead with our plan to kill JFK. Here's how it's going to be done. We are going to have 6 shooters all around Dealey Plaza. Firing will begin on signal. There will be about one shot every 3 seconds until it is clear that JFK is dead. Once we see some sign (his brains splattering all over the street) we will cease firing. Depending on the situation, how many shots and from where, we will have several different scenarios to feed to the public about who was responsible, We have a couple of Patsy's set up to take the fall. Here is the story that will be fed to the public, any questions?". Then say that script plays out exactly as it did. Who is lying? Aren't they just following the script? If an actor in a movie tells a story about what he is doing in the movie, is he lying? Or is that part of the planned activities?

Yes, I know it's all semantics, but they are serious players and likely would not consider themselves to be acting or lying, just following their plan.

"January 1965 to be exact -- Harry Dean shocked the American public on the Joe Pyne Show when he announced that he attended a September 1963 John Birch Society meeting in Southern California along with sundry secret JBS members,"

As you noted that this was said in Jan, 1965. Is it possible it took him a full year to come up with that story? Could it have had a purpose?

This whole effort to say that it was Edwin Walker that headed up the assassination is a relatively new thing. I know that Walker has been named in association with the murder for a long time, but not until more recently as the 'leader' of the plot. I think it is just that, though, just one of the cover stories for who might have done it. The odds that Walker had an organization that could control all the high ranking military, J E Hoover, LBJ, the CIA, the Secret Service is somewhere between slim and none. And most likely much closer to the ' none' than to the 'slim'. And for those Lone Nutters, the odds that LHO could get all those people to cover for him are much slimmer than Walker's chances (which as you recall are 'none').

So, yes.... some people can write interesting novels, with scenarios that can be quite believable if it were in a vacuum, but when people with a good knowledge of all the facts that have gone before it start reading, it often doesn't take long to realize they are reading crap. Such as the Bug Man's book. I read some of that and skimmed the rest of it and there just is nothing there. This new book, I will start. Wonder how far I will get.

Just my opinion

Kenneth Drew

OK, Kenneth, I'm going to reply by the numbers, since you've made several points there.

(1) Insofar as you've been reading about the JFK murder since the WR came out, you've got a great handle on the topic. I surely agree with you that all the Lone Nutter (LN) books out there, from Posner to Bugliosi to O'Reilly, were mainly a parade of loyalty to Earl Warren.

(2) Perhaps Dr. Cyril Wecht was the first to say, "Who cares who the shooters were, as long as we know there was a conspiracy?" Well, I really care. In fact, I maintain that until we know the Ground Crew, we really can't identify the Lead Plotters.

(3) I also maintain that the most central error of all JFK CT's is jumping to the conclusion that the JFK Cover-up Team "must have been" working for the JFK-Kill Team.

(4) The second most central error claims that the JFK-Killers "got away with it," simply because they were never publicly charged. IMHO the US Government figured out who the JFK Killers were within one hour of the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald -- and dealt with them behind closed doors. They could never be made public, because riots would have erupted in US streets during the Cold War -- and actually the JFK Killers would have received far more support from the US Right Wing that we can even imagine today.

(5) My evidence that the JFK-Killers failed to "get away with it" begins with the fact that Fidel Castro is still alive today, and Cuba is still "Communist" today.

(6) You totally got me between the eyes, Kenneth, by pointing out the grammatical error in my sentence, "...that book only proves that the US Government lied about the JFK Cover-up." I should have said that the US Government "lied by using" the JFK Cover-up.

(6.1) Still, the US Government didn't lie about lying to us -- they admitted that the JFK Truth must be withheld for 75 years.

(7) As for your imaginary scenario of the JFK plot, Kenneth, IMHO you repeat the common error of most JFK CT's, namely, you presume that the people who killed JFK also planned the JFK Cover-up. It's really easy to disprove that theory.

(7.1) The people who killed JFK spent six solid months trying to make Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) look like an FPCC Communist. That was critical to their plan. They planned to blame the FPCC Communists for the murder of JFK. It was supposed to look like a team effort, with multiple shooters. The USA was supposed to think the Communists killed JFK, so that we would invade Cuba.

(7.2) The people who covered-up the JFK murder had only one hour to devise their response. J. Edgar Hoover shone brightest on this day. When LHO was arrested at 2pm on 11/22/1963, the officials in Dallas told the FBI that LHO was a leader of the FPCC and a Communist. Hoover broke out his fat file on LHO and discovered this: (i) LHO was not on his list of card-carrying Communists; and (ii) LHO's FPCC in NOLA was a Fake operation run by Guy Banister, a former FBI agent.

(7.3) With that information, J. Edgar Hoover quickly figured out that Guy Banister and the Extreme Right Wing in the South was behind the JFK murder. He also figured out that their plan was to blame the FPCC Communists by having set-up LHO as their Patsy. The killers' plan was to frighten the USA to spur us to invade Cuba and kill Fidel Castro right away. We have FBI records today that prove that J. Edgar Hoover called RFK around 3pm to announce that LHO was not a Communist and was not a leader in the FPCC.

(7.4) So, it only took one hour for Hoover to figure this out, and to tell the FBI about his plan, famous today as the "Lone Nut" theory. If LHO was a "Lone Nut," then there was no need to follow the Extreme Right Wing in their planned invasion of Cuba.

(7.5) It was a matter of National Security -- so Hoover got the message through to LBJ (probably through McGeorge Bundy) and then to Allen Dulles and then from LBJ to Earl Warren and most of the senior members of his Commission. The Truth about the JFK murder was quickly a matter of National Security. It will remain so until Thursday 26 October 2017.

(8) Then, Kenneth, you asked about Harry Dean's January 1965 announcement of an Extreme Right Wing plot to kill JFK featuring the resigned Major General Edwin Walker. You asked, "Is it possible it took him a full year to come up with that story?"

(8.1) The way Harry explained the delay to me -- and I believe him -- is that he truly hoped that the Warren Report would print the full Truth about the JFK murder, and lay to rest the ridiculous rumors in the Mass Media that LHO was the "Lone Nut" killer of JFK.

(8.2) When the Warren Report was made public on 27 September 1964, the Mass Media was confirmed in their rumors -- LHO was the "Lone Nut."

(8.3) Harry Dean then decided he would have to go public as soon as he could. It took him some time to arrange an appearance on the Joe Pyne Show, which aired in January 1965.

(8.4) Harry Dean also claims that he had already told the FBI his side of the story in 1963. If this is true, then Harry simply kept faith in the FBI, that they would investigate his claims and learn the full truth, and then surprise the world in September 1964 with the real truth -- that the Extreme Right Wing led by the resigned General Walker was the true killer of JFK (just as Jack Ruby told Earl Warren in June 1964).

(8.5) People today still dispute Harry's claim that he told the FBI in 1963. If so, they demand, then where are the FBI records to prove that he did? Instead, we only find Los Angeles FBI records about Harry in which the FBI dismisses Harry as a "mental case."

(8.6) IMHO, the jury is still out -- until we finally see all the top secret records on the JFK murder still held by the ARRB -- promised to be released by Thursday 26 October 2017, I, for one, still expect to see official confirmation of Harry Dean's claims.

(9) The evidence that links Edwin Walker to the JFK murder is very convincing to me, Kenneth. For example, did you know that Edwin Walker was the leader of the group that humiliated UN Ambassador Adlai Stevenson in Dallas only 30 days before the JFK murder?

(9.1) Furthermore, Walker just walked away from that scandal, laughing his head off. General Walker was untouchable in Dallas.

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

Edited September 6, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[Ernie Lazar]

FYI: Amazon currently has reduced the price of Caufield's new book by 10% -- so it can be pre-ordered for $35.10 with free shipping. If they lower the price again after the book is published, they will add normal shipping charges.

For those unfamiliar with online discount book sellers, typically within 4 weeks after a book is published, it often is available on websites like half.com (a division of Ebay) at a 15-30% discount.

ALSO:

Amazon is offering another book as a package deal with Caufield's for $59.39. The summary is as follows:

Where Angels Tread Lightly: The Assassination of President Kennedy Volume 1 Paperback – April 23, 2015

by John M. Newman

The first in a series of volumes on the JFK assassination, Where Angels Tread Lightly is a unique scholarly examination of historical episodes that go back to WWII, the Office of Strategic Services, and the early evolution of the CIA—up to and beyond Castro’s assumption of power in Cuba in 1959. This book is a groundbreaking investigation of America’s failure in Cuba that uncovers the CIA’s role in Castro’s rise to power and their ensuing efforts to destroy him.

This work retraces the paths taken by many of the key players who became entangled in the CIA’s plots to overthrow Castro and the development of the myth that Castro was responsible for the assassination of President Kennedy.

With rigorous scholarship and the brilliant insight of a trained textual records interpreter and document forensic specialist, Dr. John M. Newman sheds new light on the multiple identities played by individual CIA officers. Where Angels Tread Lightly deciphers the people and operations that belong to a large number of CIA cryptonyms and pseudonyms that have remained, until now, unsolved.

Edited September 6, 2015 by Ernie Lazar

[Paul Trejo]

So, I ordered my copy of the new book by Dr. Jeff Caufield, namely, General Walker and the Murder of President Kennedy: The Extensive New Evidence of a Radical-Right Conspiracy...

When I receive it, the first thing I'll do is turn to the Index for references to Gerry Patrick Hemming and Loran Hall. It's not only that Harry Dean in 1965 named both General Walker and Loran Hall in the context of the JFK assassination, but I also found evidence in the resigned General Walker's personal papers of his 1963 relationship with Gerry Patrick Hemming.

Furthermore, Jim Garrison's interrogation of Loran Hall links the resigned General Walker with Loran Hall.

Furthermore, it's well-known that Gerry Patrick Hemming was at one time good friends with Loran Hall while they fought along side each other as comrades-in-arms in Interpen, but toward the latter part of 1963 they had a serious break and became enemies. A.J. Weberman, for example, noted that Gerry Patrick Hemming claimed that Loran Hall was in Dallas on 11/22/1963 and could "very well have assassinated the President."

We're looking at the Dealey Plaza Ground Crew, IMHO, when we look at Interpen in general, and at Gerry Patrick Hemming along with Loran Hall in particular.

The linkage of General Walker with Hemming, Hall and other Interpen characters was a significant breakthrough for A.J. Weberman back in the 20th century, although I believe that Weberman failed to dig deeply enough into the Walker saga. I earnestly hope that Dr. Caufield will illuminate the Interpen connection with the resigned General Walker in his new book.

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

Edited September 7, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[William O'Neil]

Paul, Who did you order it through?

Bill

[Paul Trejo]

Paul, Who did you order it through?

Bill

I ordered it through amazon.com on August 19th. And I got free shipping.

--Paul

Edited September 7, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[Kenneth Drew]

Just my opinion,

--Paul Trejo

And a very good opinion, I sure have no problem with it. But a few comments. I have been reading about the JFK murder since the Warren Report came out, then especially started reading a lot about it with Rush to Judgment and 6 Seconds in Dallas. I have never thought that LHO killed JFK. I have seen absolutely no evidence of it since 1963. All LN books follow the same pattern, they all believe the WCR hook line and sinker. No questions asked.

I have no idea how many JFK books I have read, very very many, and, in fact, have forgotten many that I've read. I've started a few that are so silly and ridiculous that I didn't bother to finish them. O'Reilly's book, Killing Kennedy fits in that category. Warren Report all the way. The book DVP assisted on this year was like that. Complete waste of time.

I don't know who I think was responsible for the killing and it doesn't seem to be very important exactly who it was because he/they totally got away with it, apparently with the approval of many very high people in the US government. (Which includes the military.)

Think about your statement: "However, that book only proves that the US Government lied about the JFK Cover-up" Did the US Government 'lie' about the cover-up? Let me make a simple statement of the scenario, it goes something like this: Ok, fellows, we are going ahead with our plan to kill JFK. Here's how it's going to be done. We are going to have 6 shooters all around Dealey Plaza. Firing will begin on signal. There will be about one shot every 3 seconds until it is clear that JFK is dead. Once we see some sign (his brains splattering all over the street) we will cease firing. Depending on the situation, how many shots and from where, we will have several different scenarios to feed to the public about who was responsible, We have a couple of Patsy's set up to take the fall. Here is the story that will be fed to the public, any questions?". Then say that script plays out exactly as it did. Who is lying? Aren't they just following the script? If an actor in a movie tells a story about what he is doing in the movie, is he lying? Or is that part of the planned activities?

Yes, I know it's all semantics, but they are serious players and likely would not consider themselves to be acting or lying, just following their plan.

"January 1965 to be exact -- Harry Dean shocked the American public on the Joe Pyne Show when he announced that he attended a September 1963 John Birch Society meeting in Southern California along with sundry secret JBS members,"

As you noted that this was said in Jan, 1965. Is it possible it took him a full year to come up with that story? Could it have had a purpose?

This whole effort to say that it was Edwin Walker that headed up the assassination is a relatively new thing. I know that Walker has been named in association with the murder for a long time, but not until more recently as the 'leader' of the plot. I think it is just that, though, just one of the cover stories for who might have done it. The odds that Walker had an organization that could control all the high ranking military, J E Hoover, LBJ, the CIA, the Secret Service is somewhere between slim and none. And most likely much closer to the ' none' than to the 'slim'. And for those Lone Nutters, the odds that LHO could get all those people to cover for him are much slimmer than Walker's chances (which as you recall are 'none').

So, yes.... some people can write interesting novels, with scenarios that can be quite believable if it were in a vacuum, but when people with a good knowledge of all the facts that have gone before it start reading, it often doesn't take long to realize they are reading crap. Such as the Bug Man's book. I read some of that and skimmed the rest of it and there just is nothing there. This new book, I will start. Wonder how far I will get.

Just my opinion

Kenneth Drew

OK, Kenneth, I'm going to reply by the numbers, since you've made several points there.

(1) Insofar as you've been reading about the JFK murder since the WR came out, you've got a great handle on the topic. I surely agree with you that all the Lone Nutter (LN) books out there, from Posner to Bugliosi to O'Reilly, were mainly a parade of loyalty to Earl Warren.

(2) Perhaps Dr. Cyril Wecht was the first to say, "Who cares who the shooters were, as long as we know there was a conspiracy?" Well, I really care. In fact, I maintain that until we know the Ground Crew, we really can't identify the Lead Plotters.

(3) I also maintain that the most central error of all JFK CT's is jumping to the conclusion that the JFK Cover-up Team "must have been" working for the JFK-Kill Team.

(4) The second most central error claims that the JFK-Killers "got away with it," simply because they were never publicly charged. IMHO the US Government figured out who the JFK Killers were within one hour of the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald -- and dealt with them behind closed doors. They could never be made public, because riots would have erupted in US streets during the Cold War -- and actually the JFK Killers would have received far more support from the US Right Wing that we can even imagine today.

(5) My evidence that the JFK-Killers failed to "get away with it" begins with the fact that Fidel Castro is still alive today, and Cuba is still "Communist" today.

(6) You totally got me between the eyes, Kenneth, by pointing out the grammatical error in my sentence, "...that book only proves that the US Government lied about the JFK Cover-up." I should have said that the US Government "lied by using" the JFK Cover-up.

(6.1) Still, the US Government didn't lie about lying to us -- they admitted that the JFK Truth must be withheld for 75 years.

(7) As for your imaginary scenario of the JFK plot, Kenneth, IMHO you repeat the common error of most JFK CT's, namely, you presume that the people who killed JFK also planned the JFK Cover-up. It's really easy to disprove that theory.

(7.1) The people who killed JFK spent six solid months trying to make Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) look like an FPCC Communist. That was critical to their plan. They planned to blame the FPCC Communists for the murder of JFK. It was supposed to look like a team effort, with multiple shooters. The USA was supposed to think the Communists killed JFK, so that we would invade Cuba.

(7.2) The people who covered-up the JFK murder had only one hour to devise their response. J. Edgar Hoover shone brightest on this day. When LHO was arrested at 2pm on 11/22/1963, the officials in Dallas told the FBI that LHO was a leader of the FPCC and a Communist. Hoover broke out his fat file on LHO and discovered this: (i) LHO was not on his list of card-carrying Communists; and (ii) LHO's FPCC in NOLA was a Fake operation run by Guy Banister, a former FBI agent.

(7.3) With that information, J. Edgar Hoover quickly figured out that Guy Banister and the Extreme Right Wing in the South was behind the JFK murder. He also figured out that their plan was to blame the FPCC Communists by having set-up LHO as their Patsy. The killers' plan was to frighten the USA to spur us to invade Cuba and kill Fidel Castro right away. We have FBI records today that prove that J. Edgar Hoover called RFK around 3pm to announce that LHO was not a Communist and was not a leader in the FPCC.

(7.4) So, it only took one hour for Hoover to figure this out, and to tell the FBI about his plan, famous today as the "Lone Nut" theory. If LHO was a "Lone Nut," then there was no need to follow the Extreme Right Wing in their planned invasion of Cuba.

(7.5) It was a matter of National Security -- so Hoover got the message through to LBJ (probably through McGeorge Bundy) and then to Allen Dulles and then from LBJ to Earl Warren and most of the senior members of his Commission. The Truth about the JFK murder was quickly a matter of National Security. It will remain so until Thursday 26 October 2017.

(8) Then, Kenneth, you asked about Harry Dean's January 1965 announcement of an Extreme Right Wing plot to kill JFK featuring the resigned Major General Edwin Walker. You asked, "Is it possible it took him a full year to come up with that story?"

(8.1) The way Harry explained the delay to me -- and I believe him -- is that he truly hoped that the Warren Report would print the full Truth about the JFK murder, and lay to rest the ridiculous rumors in the Mass Media that LHO was the "Lone Nut" killer of JFK.

(8.2) When the Warren Report was made public on 27 September 1964, the Mass Media was confirmed in their rumors -- LHO was the "Lone Nut."

(8.3) Harry Dean then decided he would have to go public as soon as he could. It took him some time to arrange an appearance on the Joe Pyne Show, which aired in January 1965.

(8.4) Harry Dean also claims that he had already told the FBI his side of the story in 1963. If this is true, then Harry simply kept faith in the FBI, that they would investigate his claims and learn the full truth, and then surprise the world in September 1964 with the real truth -- that the Extreme Right Wing led by the resigned General Walker was the true killer of JFK (just as Jack Ruby told Earl Warren in June 1964).

(8.5) People today still dispute Harry's claim that he told the FBI in 1963. If so, they demand, then where are the FBI records to prove that he did? Instead, we only find Los Angeles FBI records about Harry in which the FBI dismisses Harry as a "mental case."

(8.6) IMHO, the jury is still out -- until we finally see all the top secret records on the JFK murder still held by the ARRB -- promised to be released by Thursday 26 October 2017, I, for one, still expect to see official confirmation of Harry Dean's claims.

(9) The evidence that links Edwin Walker to the JFK murder is very convincing to me, Kenneth. For example, did you know that Edwin Walker was the leader of the group that humiliated UN Ambassador Adlai Stevenson in Dallas only 30 days before the JFK murder?

(9.1) Furthermore, Walker just walked away from that scandal, laughing his head off. General Walker was untouchable in Dallas.

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

Thanks for that response Paul. Some interesting points, most of which I agree with. Some not entirely but mostly with small differences. I'll use your numbers.

(2)"Who cares who the shooters were, as long as we know there was a conspiracy?" I don't think it's particularly useful to know exactly who it was as long as we know who they represented. If they were involved in other ways, then it increases the importance of knowing. What I'm saying here is, say the CIA were responsible for supplying the shooters. So they imported 6 persons from, oh, say France. Does it matter what their names were? Not to me. But say that the CIA did something like using JD Tippit as Badge Man and Roscoe White and a few SS men to provide security for the shooters. That would matter. One thing we do know is that there were more than one shooter so there had to be at least a two man conspiracy. I do agree that knowing who the shooters were would make it easier to know who the plotters were.

(3)conclusion that the JFK Cover-up Team "must have been" working for the JFK-Kill Team. If not, how would they have known which rifle to use in the BYP to match the type of rifle in the sniper's nest? I consider the construction of the BYP as part of the planning (which the killl team had to be responsible for) I can accept that the kill team may have had a plan to 'cover their activities' but not to cover the assassination itself. Then JEH could have discovered that line and chose to cover the whole operation.

(4)Government may have figured out who? They may have already known, might have been doing the planning. I think you're assuming that 'if it had become known, there would have been riots" I think that is assuming it was a foreign government would have been involved. Maybe, but I've never seen any evidence of that.

(5) Seems to be an assumption that it was known that Castro was not responsible. I'll agree that Castro most likely had nothing to do with it. I've never thought Cuba was involved.

(6) (6.1) I certainly think the US government knows who was responsible for the assassination, who did it and are covering it up. But I think that was their plan all the time.

(7) It's really easy to disprove that theory. Ok, Why was there a MC rifle in the BYP and in the sniper's nest when there was no MC rifle fired in Dealey Plaza that day?

J. Edgar Hoover quickly figured out that Guy Banister and the Extreme Right Wing in the South was behind the JFK murder. I know you are just repeating terminology that others have used, but I take exception to it. First why is it "Extreme" why is it "right wing" and why are they "in the South"? My lifetime experience would tend to blame the evils of the world on the 'left wing' liberals and socialists. But that's a separate issue. I disagree that JEH quickly figured out. I think he already knew who was behind it. Whereas you see his brilliance, I see his complicity.

(8)General Walker was untouchable in Dallas. If someone could just show me the evidence that Walker had control of the CIA, SS, FBI, LBJ and all the generals and admirals in the military, then I'm all in.

Somehow, I think it's going to be awhile before that evidence is put together.

[Paul Trejo]

Thanks for that response Paul. Some interesting points, most of which I agree with. Some not entirely but mostly with small differences. I'll use your numbers.

(2)"Who cares who the shooters were, as long as we know there was a conspiracy?" I don't think it's particularly useful to know exactly who it was as long as we know who they represented. If they were involved in other ways, then it increases the importance of knowing. What I'm saying here is, say the CIA were responsible for supplying the shooters. So they imported 6 persons from, oh, say France. Does it matter what their names were? Not to me. But say that the CIA did something like using JD Tippit as Badge Man and Roscoe White and a few SS men to provide security for the shooters. That would matter. One thing we do know is that there were more than one shooter so there had to be at least a two man conspiracy. I do agree that knowing who the shooters were would make it easier to know who the plotters were.

(3)conclusion that the JFK Cover-up Team "must have been" working for the JFK-Kill Team. If not, how would they have known which rifle to use in the BYP to match the type of rifle in the sniper's nest? I consider the construction of the BYP as part of the planning (which the killl team had to be responsible for) I can accept that the kill team may have had a plan to 'cover their activities' but not to cover the assassination itself. Then JEH could have discovered that line and chose to cover the whole operation.

(4)Government may have figured out who? They may have already known, might have been doing the planning. I think you're assuming that 'if it had become known, there would have been riots" I think that is assuming it was a foreign government would have been involved. Maybe, but I've never seen any evidence of that.

(5) Seems to be an assumption that it was known that Castro was not responsible. I'll agree that Castro most likely had nothing to do with it. I've never thought Cuba was involved.

(6) (6.1) I certainly think the US government knows who was responsible for the assassination, who did it and are covering it up. But I think that was their plan all the time.

(7) It's really easy to disprove that theory. Ok, Why was there a MC rifle in the BYP and in the sniper's nest when there was no MC rifle fired in Dealey Plaza that day?

J. Edgar Hoover quickly figured out that Guy Banister and the Extreme Right Wing in the South was behind the JFK murder. I know you are just repeating terminology that others have used, but I take exception to it. First why is it "Extreme" why is it "right wing" and why are they "in the South"? My lifetime experience would tend to blame the evils of the world on the 'left wing' liberals and socialists. But that's a separate issue. I disagree that JEH quickly figured out. I think he already knew who was behind it. Whereas you see his brilliance, I see his complicity.

(8)General Walker was untouchable in Dallas. If someone could just show me the evidence that Walker had control of the CIA, SS, FBI, LBJ and all the generals and admirals in the military, then I'm all in.

Somehow, I think it's going to be awhile before that evidence is put together.

OK, Kenneth, these are all good questions. I reply once again by the numbers:

(2) Yes, if we knew for a SOLID FACT that the CIA were responsible for the shooters, then I wouldn't much care, either, who the Ground Crew happened to be. The problem is that we really don't get to say that the CIA were responsible without proof -- and IMHO the best proof would be the Ground Crew.

(2.1) Also, Kenneth, you admit that if the shooter teams turned out to include J.D. Tippit and Roscoe White, then "that would matter." Right. Yet because of the widespread acceptance of a CIA-did-it theory in the JFK literature, I am in a small group that wants to deal with the evidence that Tippit and White were among the shooters. We have photographic evidence that Tippit was "Badge Man" (down to the pox mark on his left cheek), and we have mother-and-son evidence that Roscoe White was the JFK shooter who also killed J.D. Tippit.

(2.2) Now, if (and only if) this evidence can be confirmed, I suspect you and I would agree that the CIA would never be stupid enough to use the Extreme Right Wing in Dallas in a JFK Kill plot.

(2.3) IMHO, if the Extreme Right Wing in Dallas killed JFK, then that's the end of the CIA-did-it theory. And also, if the CIA-did-it, then we'd be astounded if they used DPD officers as their shooters. We agree so far?

(2.4) I think we agree that if the CIA-high-command killed JFK, then the Extreme Right Wing couldn't be involved, even at a lower level. Yet, if the Extreme Right Wing killed JFK, they might include motivated Rogues from the CIA, FBI and Secret Service. So far so good?

(3) As for my sharp denial that the JFK Cover-up Team "must have been" working for the JFK-Kill Team, you asked:

> If not, how would they have known which rifle to use in the

> BYP to match the type of rifle in the sniper's nest? I consider

> the construction of the BYP as part of the planning (which the

> kill team had to be responsible for).

(3.1) My answer is that the resigned General Walker -- by his own admission to Senator Frank Church and others -- was tracking Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) since mid-April 1963.

(3.2) IMHO, LHO tried to kill General Walker on 10 April 1963 in order to please his new yuppie friends in Dallas, starting with George De Mohrenschildt, and extending to Volkmar Schmidt, Michael and Ruth Paine, and several other young oil engineers at their Dallas parties.

(3.3) IMHO, LHO created the Backyard Photographs (BYP) in all their Fakery at Jaggers-Chiles-Stovall, where he worked; and furthermore, it was just this sort of abuse of company equipment that got LHO fired.

(3.4) Only days after the shooting at General Walker, LHO moved to New Orleans, Louisiana (NOLA) where he immediately began work on a Fake FPCC with Guy Banister -- who was General Walker's political friend, though LHO didn't know it.

(3.5) General Walker tracked LHO all the way through his summer in NOLA, continually plotting how to make LHO pay for his crime of the Walker shooting.

(3.6) We know for a fact that Roscoe White obtained a completely separate pose of the BYP than the Warren Commission attorneys obtained.

(3.7) Roscoe White was also an associate of Gerry Patrick Hemming, leader of Interpen, 1961-1963, and Hemming admitted to A.J. Weberman that he telephoned LHO on 11/21/1963 to offer him double the price of his rifle if he'd bring it to the TSBD building the next morning.

(3.8) Guy Banister and General Walker -- in cooperation with Interpen -- carefully set-up LHO to be an FPCC Communist Patsy for their JFK murder plot, to inspire the USA to invade Cuba. They planned this from April through November 1963.

(4) IMHO, the US Government, including the CIA and the FBI, were stunned by the JFK assassination.

(4.1) One only needs to look back at the riots caused by the assassination of Reverend MLK to know that there would have been riots in the streets of the USA if the Extreme Right Wing had been exposed as the culprits of the JFK assassination.

(6.1) I still maintain that J. Edgar Hoover figured out the Extreme Right Wing plot by 3pm CST on 11/22/1963, and he invented the "Lone Nut" theory as a counter-plot. Becuse of the "Lone Nut" fiction, the USA didn't invade Cuba.

(7) You ask, "Why was there a MC rifle in the BYP and in the sniper's nest when there was no MC rifle fired in Dealey Plaza that day?"

(7.1) This is answered well by Gerry Patrick Hemming -- he and his Interpen comrades had been manipulating LHO for much of the Spring, all of the Summer, and much of the Fall of 1963. They knew all about LHO.

(7.2) Sadly, LHO was foolish enough to try to impress George De Mohrenschildt with his stupid BYP gambit. By making Fake BYP's, LHO thought he had "plausible deniability" in their creation. (Jack White shows clearly that Roscoe White's chin, neck, shoulders, right wrist and stance were the "body double" in the BYP. Roscoe knew LHO from the Atsugi days.)

(7.3) LHO was not 100% innocent of the JFK murder, because LHO willingly cooperated with the people who framed him -- although he had no idea he was being framed. Still, at the end he figured out he was a Patsy, and he still kept their identities a secret. He was part of the Ground Crew.

(7.4) I used to believe that J. Edgar Hoover was part of the JFK Kill Team, because he insisted LHO was the JFK killer within one hour after the arrest of LHO, and he never wavered from that position no matter how much contradictory evidence was presented to the FBI.

(7.5) Yet the evidence now appears clear to me. The "Lone Nut" theory of LHO was the *opposite* of what the JFK Kill Team had planned since April 1963. So now I believe that J. Edgar Hoover brilliantly figured out the plot in one single hour, and prevented massive riots in the streets of the USA.

(8) Again, Kenneth, if we insist that the JFK Cover-up was done in the service of the JFK Kill Team, then of course we must demand that the leader of the plot must be in control of the CIA, SS, FBI, LBJ and Pentagon -- because they all served in the promotion of the JFK Cover-up.

(8.1) However, if we can recognize that the JFK Cover-up goal was the *opposite* of the JFK-Kill Team's goal, then we don't need to include the CIA, SS, FBI, LBJ and Pentagon. The JFK Kill-Team could have been controlled entirely from Dallas, using the Extreme Right Wing in Dallas and NOLA.

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

Edited September 8, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[Kenneth Drew]

Paul, one quick question before I respond to the major part of your comments. I asked above and still wonder, why do you refer to 'Extreme Right Wing of the South'?

[Stephen Roy]

Paul, Who did you order it through?

Bill

I ordered it through amazon.com on August 19th. And I got free shipping.

--Paul

Hmmm...

As soon as I saw it available on Amazon (about 2 weeks ago) and noticed that there were 4 in stock, I "one-clicked" it, and it was in my mailbox two days later (really weighing down the mailbox, too - a heavy book)!

If anybody wants me to check anything, just ask.

[Paul Trejo]

Hmmm...

As soon as I saw it available on Amazon (about 2 weeks ago) and noticed that there were 4 in stock, I "one-clicked" it, and it was in my mailbox two days later (really weighing down the mailbox, too - a heavy book)!

If anybody wants me to check anything, just ask.

Thanks, Stephen, for your offer. Would you briefly summarize Dr. Caufield's characterization of the relationships between General Walker and the members of Interpen -- especially Gerry Patrick Hemming and Loran Hall?

Many thanks,

--Paul Trejo

[Paul Trejo]

Paul, one quick question before I respond to the major part of your comments. I asked above and still wonder, why do you refer to 'Extreme Right Wing of the South'?

Well, Kenneth, in 2013 I studied the effect of the 1954 Brown Decision (by Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren) on the Southern US States. Their reaction to the Brown Decision was quite different than the Northern reaction. It was at this time that we saw a sharp revival of the Confederate Flag in the South.

Although by 1954 the KKK was already severely curtailed in the South, what history witnessed in Mississippi in response to the Brown Decision was something called the "Citizen Councils," also called the "White Citizen Councils" in some regions.

The Citizens Councils recognized that Earl Warren had rendered the Brown Decision in response to political pressure from the NAACP. Therefore, the Citizens Councils targeted the NAACP for special negative pressure.

Realizing that the brute force of the KKK was the main cause of its bad reputation in the USA, the Citizens Councils rejected the KKK and its methods, and concentrated instead on Economic Measures against the NAACP. Membership lists of the NAACP were obtained, and then each member was systematically subjected to Bank Loan recalls, Bank Loan denials, employment rejection and employment termination by any means available.

The Citizens Councils were extremely successful in the 1950's, so that the Brown Decision was largely ignored in the deep South throughout the 1950's. This is what I call the Extreme Right Wing in the South, Kenneth. It's a resistance to Racial Equality under the Law. I take this to be the same as what Dr. Caufield calls the "Radical Right".

President Eisenhower had to respond to this culture in Little Rock Arkansas in 1957, using thousands of Federal Forces to admit thirteen Black American students to Little Rock High School. Eisenhower selected General Edwin Walker to enforce the Brown Decision there, and Walker did that successfully.

However, the Extreme Right Wing converged upon General Walker personally in Little Rock, between 1957 and 1959, so that by 1959 General Walker submitted his first resignation to the US Army, even forfeiting his Army pension, citing "a fifth column conspiracy." Eisenhower rejected that resignation and instead rewarded Walker's success at Little Rock with a command over the 24th Infantry in Augsburg Germany. (Yet Walker would soon resign again, and the second time, JFK would accept the resignation.)

I digress. My reference to the Extreme Right Wing in the South is simply this movement to "Impeach Earl Warren" because of his Brown Decision. Not until the 1960's did Mississippi submit fully to the Brown Decision -- but again it required JFK to send thousands of Federal Troops to Ole Miss University. This time the resigned General Walker was on the other side of the fence -- leading the charges against Federal Troops.

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

Edited September 8, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[Ernie Lazar]

Paul, one quick question before I respond to the major part of your comments. I asked above and still wonder, why do you refer to 'Extreme Right Wing of the South'?

Well, Kenneth, in 2013 I studied the effect of the 1954 Brown Decision (by Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren) on the Southern US States. Their reaction to the Brown Decision was quite different than the Northern reaction. It was at this time that we saw a sharp revival of the Confederate Flag in the South.

Although by 1954 the KKK was already severely curtailed in the South, what history witnessed in Mississippi in response to the Brown Decision was something called the "Citizen Councils," also called the "White Citizen Councils" in some regions.

The Citizens Councils recognized that Earl Warren had rendered the Brown Decision in response to political pressure from the NAACP. Therefore, the Citizens Councils targeted the NAACP for special negative pressure.

Realizing that the brute force of the KKK was the main cause of its bad reputation in the USA, the Citizens Councils rejected the KKK and its methods, and concentrated instead on Economic Measures against the NAACP. Membership lists of the NAACP were obtained, and then each member was systematically subjected to Bank Loan recalls, Bank Loan denials, employment rejection and employment termination by any means available.

The Citizens Councils were extremely successful in the 1950's, so that the Brown Decision was largely ignored in the deep South throughout the 1950's. This is what I call the Extreme Right Wing in the South, Kenneth. It's a resistance to Racial Equality under the Law. I take this to be the same as what Dr. Caufield calls the "Radical Right".

President Eisenhower had to respond to this culture in Little Rock Arkansas in 1957, using thousands of Federal Forces to admit thirteen Black American students to Little Rock High School. Eisenhower selected General Edwin Walker to enforce the Brown Decision there, and Walker did that successfully.

However, the Extreme Right Wing converged upon General Walker personally in Little Rock, between 1957 and 1959, so that by 1959 General Walker submitted his first resignation to the US Army, even forfeiting his Army pension, citing "a fifth column conspiracy." Eisenhower rejected that resignation and instead rewarded Walker's success at Little Rock with a command over the 24th Infantry in Augsburg Germany. (Yet Walker would soon resign again, and the second time, JFK would accept the resignation.)

I digress. My reference to the Extreme Right Wing in the South is simply this movement to "Impeach Earl Warren" because of his Brown Decision. Not until the 1960's did Mississippi submit fully to the Brown Decision -- but again it required JFK to send thousands of Federal Troops to Ole Miss University. This time the resigned General Walker was on the other side of the fence -- leading the charges against Federal Troops.

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

Does anyone (besides Paul) believe this statement by Paul?

"Although by 1954 the KKK was already severely curtailed in the South..."

[Ernie Lazar]

Paul, Who did you order it through?

Bill

I ordered it through amazon.com on August 19th. And I got free shipping.

--Paul

Hmmm...

As soon as I saw it available on Amazon (about 2 weeks ago) and noticed that there were 4 in stock, I "one-clicked" it, and it was in my mailbox two days later (really weighing down the mailbox, too - a heavy book)!

If anybody wants me to check anything, just ask.

Barnes and Noble is currently selling the book for $31.21 (that includes $3.99 shipping cost). However, sometimes "free shipping" coupons can be found online which means the book would cost only $27.22

[William O'Neil]

Could be they ran out of initial stock right when you ordered?

Bill

[Kenneth Drew]

Does anyone (besides Paul) believe this statement by Paul?

"Although by 1954 the KKK was already severely curtailed in the South..."

I certainly do. In fact I'd say most of it was over by 1930. While there are still quite a few chapters listed throughout the US, there are little or no 'racial activities'.