Does Lifton's Best Evidence indicate that the coverup and the crime were committed by the same people?

[Paul Trejo]

2 minutes ago, Thomas Graves said:

Dear Paul,

You're right about that perspective thingy, but you're still wrong overall.

--  Tommy

PS  It's interesting that you chose to avoid my question: "How could a short person (like 5'3.5" Duran) say that an average-height person (say 5'9.5" or 5'10" Lee Harvey Oswald) is "about the same height as me" when the latter is at least six inches taller than the former?"

Tommy,

You accuse me of minimizing the numbers, but you are maximizing the numbers.

Look at that photograph again of Oswald between the two Dallas cops.   Why do you keep saying 5'10" when he clearly less than that?

If Marina really is 5'3" as I've read, then Oswald is no more than 5'7" in that photograph from Minsk.   People often lie about their height.  

What evidence do you have to keep saying 5'10" for Oswald?

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

[Thomas Graves]

12 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:

Tommy,

You accuse me of minimizing the numbers, but you are maximizing the numbers.

Look at that photograph again of Oswald between the two Dallas cops.   Why do you keep saying 5'10" when he clearly less than that?

If Marina really is 5'3" as I've read, then Oswald is no more than 5'7" in that photograph from Minsk.   People often lie about their height.  

What evidence do you have to keep saying 5'10" for Oswald?

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Dear Paul,

Where have you read that Marina was 5'3" tall instead of 5'3.5" tall?  Source?

You say I keep claiming that Lee Harvey Oswald was 5'10" tall, when in fact I've said more than once that He was either 5'9.5" inches tall (his measurement at autopsy) or 5'10" tall.

How tall would you have him be, Paul?  5' 11"?  "5'8"?

 

--  Tommy

 

Edit:  These two ladies are standing in the same place on the bridge.  Minsk Opera House in background.  Look how the height of the woman on the right appears to change when she moves a couple of feet.

http://www.russianbooks.org/oswald/discrep.htm

 

 

Edited May 18, 2017 by Thomas Graves

[Paul Trejo]

Getting back to the theme of this thread, and whether the. JFK Cover-up Team was the same as the JFK Kill Team, it is useful to decide exactly WHAT Oswald was doing in Mexico City.

Marina Oswald testified emphatically that Oswald was there for the sole purpose of getting an instant visa into Havana, Cuba.

Oswald wasn't there to visit the Russian Embassy.  He wasn't there to visit with Kostikov, Kostin or Leonov.

Actually, the only reason that Oswald went to the Russian Embassy was to fake out the Cuban consulate into granting him an instant visa to Cuba.

According to the book advocated by David Lifton, namely, Passport to Assassination (1993), by KGB agent Oleg Nechiporenko, there were multiple unplanned meetings at the Russian Embassy with Oswald.

Nechiporenko says Kostikov was at some of those meetings, but did not know Oswald, and Oswald made a fool of himself with his pistol and other dramatics.

After they told Oswald to get lost, Oswald returned to the Cuban consulate and told Sylvia Duran that the Russians approved his visa.

Duran called the Russians and they told her the truth about Oswald.  Duran turned the transaction over to Azcue, who escorted Oswald out of the building.

Oswald failed miserably in his effort to get to Cuba from Mexico City.

What business did Oswald have in Cuba?  The answer is given in his Fake FPCC resume which he showed to Duran and Azcue.  

Oswald created the resume in New Orleans at 544 Camp Street under the supervision of Guy Banister.  (This is fully documented in the Lopez Report, complete with photos of Oswald.)

Oswald was most likely supposed to meet up with a team in Cuba to kill Fidel Castro.

If Oswald had succeeded in getting to Cuba, he might still be alive today.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited May 18, 2017 by Paul Trejo
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[Michael Clark]

4 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:

Getting back to the theme of this thread, and whether the. JFK Cover-up Team was the same as the JFK Kill Team, it is useful to decide exactly WHAT Oswald was doing in Mexico City.

Marina Oswald testified emphatically that Oswald was there for the sole purpose of getting an instant visa into Havana, Cuba.

Oswald wasn't there to visit the Russian Embassy.  He wasn't there to visit with Kostikov, Kostin or Leonov.

Actually, the only reason that Oswald went to the Russian Embassy was to fake out the Cuban consulate into granting him an instant visa to Cuba.

 

Paul, Ostensibly, LHO was trying to get a Transit Visa to Russia, via Cuba. 

He would have needed a Russian Visa to get the Transit Visa. So, assuming he actually wanted to accomplish the task of obtaining a Transit Visa in order to get to Russia, or if he planned to stay in Cuba, there was no "fake-out"; getting the Russian Visa was a necessary step to undertake prior to getting the Cuban Transit Visa.

Asssuming he was in MC, the whole charade may have been "a fake-out". But even in that case, the Russian Embassy visit would have been no more a "fake-out" than the Cuban Conulate visit.

You consistently omit the Transit Visa aspect, presumably because it interferes with your theory that LHO was trying to smuggle his rifle into Cuba to assassinate Castro.

Cheers,

Michael

Edited May 18, 2017 by Michael Clark

[Thomas Graves]

4 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:

Getting back to the theme of this thread, and whether the. JFK Cover-up Team was the same as the JFK Kill Team, it is useful to decide exactly WHAT Oswald was doing in Mexico City.

Marina Oswald testified emphatically that Oswald was there for the sole purpose of getting an instant visa into Havana, Cuba.

Oswald wasn't there to visit the Russian Embassy.  He wasn't there to visit with Kostikov, Kostin or Leonov.

Actually, the only reason that Oswald went to the Russian Embassy was to fake out the Cuban consulate into granting him an instant visa to Cuba.

According to the book advocated by David Lifton, namely, Passport to Assassination (1993), by KGB agent Oleg Nechiporenko, there were multiple unplanned meetings at the Russian Embassy with Oswald.

Nechiporenko says Kostikov was at some of those meetings, but did not know Oswald, and Oswald made a fool of himself with his pistol and other dramatics.

After they told Oswald to get lost, Oswald returned to the Cuban consulate and told Sylvia Duran that the Russians approved his visa.

Duran called the Russians and they told her the truth about Oswald.  Duran turned the transaction over to Azcue, who escorted Oswald out of the building.

Oswald failed miserably in his effort to get to Cuba from Mexico City.

What business did Oswald have in Cuba?  The answer is given in his Fake FPCC resume which he showed to Duran and Azcue.  

Oswald created the resume in New Orleans at 544 Camp Street under the supervision of Guy Banister.  (This is fully documented in the Lopez Report, complete.with photos of Oswald.)

Oswald was most likely supposed to meet up with a team in Cuba to kill Fidel Castro.

If Oswald had succeeded in getting to Cuba, he might still be alive today.

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

Dear Paul,

In his book, does Nechiporenko say anything about Mexico City Soviet Embassy's Third Secretary (and KGB officer) Nikolai Leonov's claim (in Leonov's published memoirs and in a well-written National Enquirer article) that he (Leonov) met with a highly unstable and revolver-brandishing Oswald by himself ("The guard was the only other person inside the Embassy at the time") on Sunday, September 29?

What's particularly interesting to me is that both Nechiporenko and Leonov describe the Oswald they dealt with (Lee Harvey Oswald?) as being dangerously unstable and as having brandished a revolver in their respective presence.  Oh yeah, and the fact that although Nechiporenko and the boys (Kostikov and Yatskov) missed their beloved volleyball game that day (Saturday) because they ("luckily for them") decided to write and send a cable about the incident to Moscow right away (and a letter or a cable or something to the Mexican authorities, as well), and presumably Leonov, being a responsible kind of KGB officer and "Third Secretary" did the same thing regarding his unscheduled meeting with Oswald, none of those cables or letters were ever found by those authorities when they started looking for them really seriously, especially, you know, after "the Cold War was over" and everything.

I mean, it's almost as though those unscheduled meetings never happened, and that in their books and published memoirs and magazine articles Nechiporenko and Leonov were only trying to show how unstable and dangerous (evidently far too unstable and dangerous for Department 13 to have even considered routinely interviewing U.S. military man Oswald, you know, a few years earlier, right after Oswald arrived in the U.S.S.R. and tried to kill himself and everything.

--  Tommy

Edited May 18, 2017 by Thomas Graves

[Paul Trejo]

7 hours ago, Michael Clark said:

Paul, Ostensibly, LHO was trying to get a Transit Visa to Russia, via Cuba. 

He would have needed a Russian Visa to get the Transit Visa. So, assuming he actually wanted to accomplish the task of obtaining a Transit Visa in order to get to Russia, or if he planned to stay in Cuba, there was no "fake-out"; getting the Russian Visa was a necessary step to undertake prior to getting the Cuban Transit Visa.

Asssuming he was in MC, the whole charade may have been "a fake-out". But even in that case, the Russian Embassy visit would have been no more a "fake-out" than the Cuban Conulate visit.

You consistently omit the Transit Visa aspect, presumably because it interferes with your theory that LHO was trying to smuggle his rifle into Cuba to assassinate Castro.

Cheers,

Michael

Michael,

The only reason LHO would have needed a "Transit Visa" is if his actual destination was really Russia.  But it wasn't.  Marina Oswald is firm on this point.

The only reason LHO went to the Russian Embassy to get a "Transit Visa" was because the Cuban Consulate had already denied LHO an instant visa to Cuba.

LHO made a fuss about it in the Cuban Consulate, because he claimed he was an FPCC Officer, and so had a right to go to Cuba without prior communication.

Also, said LHO, he was in a street fight with "gusanos," like Carlos Bringuier -- it was printed in the newspapers -- so that earned him the right to an instant visa into Cuba.

Also, said LHO, he was a registered member of the Communist Party, and he showed his Communist membership card.  So, he DEMANDED instant visa to Cuba.

He was denied.

Duran and Azcue agreed that this FPCC resume was BOGUS.   Also, the Cuban Consulate had a complete list of the names of FPCC Officers, and LHO was not on their list.  Also, there's no such thing as a Communist membership card.   What a moron.

Any normal Communist wanting a quick passage to Cuba would have called ahead, with letters of reference from big shots in Cuba.  LHO was obviously BOGUS.

So, they sent LHO on a wild goose chase.  They told LHO that if Russia gave him a "Transit Visa", that is, if he would say his ultimate destination was business in Russia, then they would let him go to Cuba for a short while.  

LHO, boaster that he was, boasted that Russia would give him the Transit Visa immediately, because he used to live in Russia, and they were thick as pecan pie.   So, LHO sauntered off to the Russian Embassy.

Instead, Nechporenko and Kostikov looked upon LHO as "psychotic," to used Nechiporenko's exact wording.   They sent him away empty handed -- twice.  Even after LHO brought a loaded pistol to the Embassy -- and wept in front of them, like he was having a nervous breakdown.   (Well, it worked in the USSR in 1959, why not in Mexico City?)

They escorted him out. 

Then LHO went back to Sylvia Duran and lied to her face, telling her that the Russians said "yes," so she should just give him the instant passage to Cuba.   (Perhaps LHO was something of a racist who thought very little of Mexican intelligence.)   Sylvia Duran called the Russians to confirm, and they said, "no, no, no."  So, Sylvia turned LHO over to her manager, Eusebio Azcue.

Azcue didn't like LHO very much, and told him, "You're no friend of the Revolution," as he escorted him out of the building.  This is all spelled out in great detail in the declassified CIA document, The Lopez Report (2003).

So -- Michael -- the Transit Visa itself was a BOGUS move on the part of LHO.  He wanted to get into Cuba, Cuba, Cuba, as Marina Oswald repeatedly testified.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited May 18, 2017 by Paul Trejo
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[Paul Trejo]

2 hours ago, Thomas Graves said:

Dear Paul,

In his book, does Nechiporenko say anything about Mexico City Soviet Embassy's Third Secretary (and KGB officer) Nikolai Leonov's claim (in Leonov's published memoirs and in a well-written National Enquirer article) that he (Leonov) met with a highly unstable and revolver-brandishing Oswald by himself ("The guard was the only other person inside the Embassy at the time") on Sunday, September 29?

What's particularly interesting to me is that both Nechiporenko and Leonov describe the Oswald they dealt with (Lee Harvey Oswald?) as being dangerously unstable and as having brandished a revolver in their respective presence.  Oh yeah, and the fact that although Nechiporenko and the boys (Kostikov and Yatskov) missed their beloved volleyball game that day (Saturday) because they ("luckily for them") decided to write and send a cable about the incident to Moscow right away (and a letter or a cable or something to the Mexican authorities, as well), and presumably Leonov, being a responsible kind of KGB officer and "Third Secretary" did the same thing regarding his unscheduled meeting with Oswald, none of those cables or letters were ever found by those authorities when they started looking for them really seriously, especially, you know, after "the Cold War was over" and everything.

I mean, it's almost as though those unscheduled meetings never happened, and that in their books and published memoirs and magazine articles Nechiporenko and Leonov were only trying to show how unstable and dangerous (evidently far too unstable and dangerous for Department 13 to have even considered routinely interviewing U.S. military man Oswald, you know, a few years earlier, right after Oswald arrived in the U.S.S.R. and tried to kill himself and everything.

--  Tommy

Tommy,

Nechiporenko does not mention Nikolai Leonov even one time.  Leonov is not in the Index once.

Who is fibbing?   It seems to me that Leonov is fibbing -- because he's telling the National Enquirer, which has minimal credibility anyway.  IMHO Leonov is merely repeating the real life story of Nechiporenko, pretending it is really his own story.   Why?  He needed the money.

Either that, or Nechiporenko thought of Leonov as merely the "office help" and not worth mentioning at all.   That is, Leonov could have been there, working the teletype machine, but beneath the notice of Nechiporenko and Kostikov -- the real spies.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited May 18, 2017 by Paul Trejo

[Michael Clark]

10 minutes ago, Paul Trejo said:

Michael,

The only reason LHO would have needed a "Transit Visa" is if his actual destination was really Russia.  But it wasn't.  Marina Oswald is firm on this point.

The only reason LHO went to the Russian Embassy to get a "Transit Visa" was because the Cuban Consulate had already denied LHO an instant visa to Cuba.

LHO made a fuss about it in the Cuban Consulate, because he claimed he was an FPCC Officer, and so had a right to go to Cuba without prior communication.

Also, said LHO, he was in a street fight with "gusanos," like Carlos Bringuier -- it was right there in the newspapers -- so that earned him the right to an instant visa to Cuba.

Also, said LHO, he was a registered member of the Communist Party, and he showed his Communist membership card.  So, he DEMANDED instant visa to Cuba.

He was denied.

Duran and Azcue agreed that this FPCC resume was BOGUS.   Also, the Cuban Consulate had a complete list of the names of FPCC Officers, and LHO was not on that list.  Also,   there is no such thing as a Communist membership card.   What a moron.

Any normal Communist wanting a quick passage to Cuba would have called ahead, with letters of reference from big shots in Cuba.  This was obviously BOGUS.

So, they sent LHO on a wild goose chase.  They told LHO that if Russia gave him a "Transit Visa", that is, if he would say his ultimate destination was business in Russia, then they would let him go to Cuba for a short while.  

LHO, boaster that he was, boasted that Russia would give him the Transit Visa immediately, because he used to live in Russia, and they were thick as pecan pie.

Instead, Nechporenko and Kostikov looked at LHO as "psychotic," to used Nechiporenko's exact word.   They sent him away empty handed -- TWICE.  Even after LHO brought a loaded pistol to the Embassy -- and wept in front of them, like he was having a nervous breakdown.   (Well, it worked in the USSR in 1959, why not in Mexico City?)

They escorted him out.  Then LHO went back to Sylvia Duran and lied to her face, telling her that the Russians said "yes" and so she should just give him the instant passage to Cuba.   (Obviously, LHO was something of a racist, and thought very little of Mexican intelligence.)   Sylvia Duran called the Russians to confirm, and they said, "no, no, no."  So, Sylvia turned Oswald over to her manager, Eusebio Azcue.

Azcue didn't like LHO very much, and told him, "You're no friend of the Revolution," as he escorted him out of the building.

So -- Michael -- the Transit Visa itself was a BOGUS move on the part of LHO.  He wanted to get into Cuba, Cuba, Cuba, as Marina Oswald repeatedly testified.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Paul,

This is an argument that YOU are trying to make. Why don't YOU provide the documents, instead of forcing others to do so if they wish to correct the record that you foul-up.

Paul Trejo wrote: "The only reason LHO went to the Russian Embassy to get a "Transit Visa" was because the Cuban Consulate had already denied LHO an instant visa to Cuba."

 

I'm hoping Paul provides some documents to fix this. I may do it later if he does not.

In any event, LHO did not go to MC and we are only trying to straighten out a fictional story as we have it.

Cheers,

Michael

Edited May 18, 2017 by Michael Clark

[Thomas Graves]

44 minutes ago, Paul Trejo said:

Tommy,

Nechiporenko does not mention Nikolai Leonov even one time.  Leonov is not in the Index once.

Who is fibbing?   It seems to me that Leonov is fibbing -- because he's telling the National Enquirer, which has minimal credibility anyway.  IMHO Leonov is merely repeating the real life story of Nechiporenko, pretending it is really his own story.   Why?  He needed the money.

Either that, or Nechiporenko thought of Leonov as merely the "office help" and not worth mentioning at all.   That is, Leonov could have been there, working the teletype machine, but beneath the notice of Nechiporenko and Kostikov -- the real spies.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Dear Paul,

Forget the National Enquirer article (have you read it yet BTW?).

I guess you missed my mentioning (that's a gerund there, folks) the fact that Leonov described his alleged one-on-one unscheduled meeting with "dangerously-unstable and revolver-brandishing LHO on Sunday 9/29/63" in his fairly-recently published memoirs?

--  Tommy

Edited May 18, 2017 by Thomas Graves

[Paul Trejo]

3 hours ago, Thomas Graves said:

Dear Paul,

Forget the National Enquirer article (have you read it yet BTW?).

I guess you missed my mentioning (that's a gerund there, folks) the fact that Leonov described his alleged one-on-one unscheduled meeting with "dangerously-unstable and revolver-brandishing LHO on Sunday 9/29/63" in his fairly-recently published memoirs?

--  Tommy

Tommy,

Having already lied to the National Enquirer, how could Leonov change his tune?

Sounds to me like Leonov is stealing the story of Nechiporenko, which was published in 1993.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited May 19, 2017 by Paul Trejo

[Thomas Graves]

37 minutes ago, Paul Trejo said:

Tommy,

Having already lied to the Natl Enquirer, how could Leonov change his tune?

Sounds to me like Leonov is stealing the story of Nechiporenko, which was published in 1993.

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

 

Dear Paul,

Here it is, with the pertinent passage translated into English for you so that you (and other, non-Russian-speaking members) might ... understand.

http://jfkfacts.org/senior-kgb-insider-said-lee-harvey-oswald/

..  Tommy

 

By the way, you never did answer my question:  "How short would you like LHO to be, seein' as how 5' 3.5" Duran testified that the guy who visited the Cuban Consulate was 'short, about the same height as me'" ?

5' 5"?

5' 6"?

5.7"?

5'8"?

  ... ?

Let's say for the sake of argument that Oswald was only 5' 9.5" (his measured length at autopsy).  Do you honestly think Duran would have described a guy who was half-a-foot taller than her as being "about the same height as me?"

Do realize how silly you look here, sometimes?

Edited May 18, 2017 by Thomas Graves

[Paul Trejo]

13 hours ago, Thomas Graves said:

Dear Paul,

Here it is, with the pertinent passage translated into English for you so that you (and other, non-Russian-speaking members) might ... understand.

http://jfkfacts.org/senior-kgb-insider-said-lee-harvey-oswald/

..  Tommy

Tommy,

That story in the link you shared is suspect on several grounds.

1.  It appears 20 years after the Nechiporenko story.

2.  It follows the same pattern as the Nechiporenko story, with some cutsie ornamentation.

3.  It fails to mention the names of others in the office.

4.  It appears about 50 years after the JFK assassination -- with no need to wait that long.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited May 19, 2017 by Paul Trejo

[Thomas Graves]

3 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:

Tommy,

That story in the link you shared is suspect on several grounds.

1.  It appears 20 years after the Nechiporenko story.

2.  It follows the same pattern as the Nechiporenko story, with some cutsie ornamentation.

3.  It fails to mention the names of others in the office.

 

Dear Paul,

Well, yes, it is suspect, isn't it.

As is the fact that even after the "end of the Cold War" (lol), neither Moscow nor Mexico were able to produce the communications Nechiprenko and the boys claimed they sent right away (i.e., on 9/28/63) to KGB Headquarters in the U.S.S.R. and (as a courtesy I suppose) to the Mexican authorities.

What's your "take" / spin on that?

--  Tommy

PS  Regarding your point #3, I guess you're having a hard time understanding the concept that Leonov claimed that his impromptu meeting with LHO happened on a SUNDAY (it's in his first sentence, Paul), and that he (Leonov) left the volleyball game he was playing outside the Embassy to go inside the Embassy and meet the unstable, pistol-packin' dude.   And that the only other person there, i.e. inside the Embassy with Leonov and Oswald (or "Oswald," or nobody at all) was the security guard, you know, since it was a SUNDAY, and the Embassy was closed and everything, and the "fact" that the only reason Leonov was anywhere near the Embassy that day was to play yet another game of volleyball with the boys.

Edited May 19, 2017 by Thomas Graves

[Paul Trejo]

50 minutes ago, Thomas Graves said:

Dear Paul,

Well, yes, it is suspect, isn't it.

As is the fact that even after the "end of the Cold War" (lol), neither Moscow nor Mexico were able to produce the communications Nechiprenko and the boys claimed they sent right away (i.e., on 9/28/63) to KGB Headquarters in the U.S.S.R. and (as a courtesy I suppose) to the Mexican authorities.

What's your "take" / spin on that?

--  Tommy

PS  Regarding your point #3, I guess you're having a hard time understanding the concept that Leonov claimed that his impromptu meeting with LHO happened on a SUNDAY (it's in his first sentence, Paul), and that he (Leonov) left the volleyball game he was playing outside the Embassy to go inside the Embassy and meet the unstable, pistol-packin' dude.   And that the only other person there, i.e. inside the Embassy with Leonov and Oswald (or "Oswald," or nobody at all) was the security guard, you know, since it was a SUNDAY, and the Embassy was closed and everything, and the "fact" that the only reason Leonov was anywhere near the Embassy that day was to play yet another game of volleyball with the boys.

Tommy,

When it comes to bureaucrats -- especially in Government -- and more especially in higher places in Government -- no delays in obtaining data are too absurd.

Now, as for the story of Oswald at the Russian Embassy in Mexico City during the final week of September 1963, Oleg Nechiporenko gives us his story shortly after the Oliver Stone movie, JFK, was promoted worldwide.  This was a reasonable time to wait to come forward.  He never mentioned Leonov.  

I have a real problem with Nikolai Leonov presenting the same story in the first person more than 10 years later..

Leonov has his cute story about a volleyball game that he had to miss, so that guaranteed in his story that it was a Sunday.  And nobody else was there except him and Oswald and the Security Guard.  Let's see -- the same story as Nechiporenko in 1993, but with different people and this volleyball game.  You buy that?   It sounds made up to me.

Look at Bill O'Reilly, for goodness sake, writing a book about the JFK assassination, and placing himself near the scene of the suicide of George DeMohrenschildt, the special friend of Lee Harvey Oswald.  There's money in this story for really good fibbers, IMHO.  Leonov needed the money.  That's my take on it.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited May 19, 2017 by Paul Trejo

[Paul Trejo]

1 hour ago, Thomas Graves said:

...By the way, you never did answer my question:  "How short would you like LHO to be, seein' as how 5' 3.5" Duran testified that the guy who visited the Cuban Consulate was 'short, about the same height as me'" ?

5' 5"?

5' 6"?

5.7"?

5'8"?

  ... ?

Let's say for the sake of argument that Oswald was only 5' 9.5" (his measured length at autopsy).  Do you honestly think Duran would have described a guy who was half-a-foot taller than her as being "about the same height as me?"

Do realize how silly you look here, sometimes?

Tommy,

IMHO, you're the one who looks silly here sometimes.  But, your posts often amuse me, so I'll answer your question.

Your question is backward -- you think that I'm talking about the precise height of Lee Harvey Oswald, when actually I'm talking about the Mexican cultural linguistics of Sylvia Duran.

"About the same height as me" was Duran's phrase.  Let's start with the context.  She is surrounded by white, blond, blue-eyed giants -- all six-footers -- from the CIA, FBI, Secret Service and State Department -- pressing her for data 15 years old -- that she knows damn well they already got from the Mexican Police the month that JFK was assassinated.

The Mexican Police had already tortured her and terrorized her family.  What new hell could happen to her after these HSCA inquisitions -- I mean -- interrogations?  Try to remember that the Cold War was still raging hot in 1979.  The Russians and the Cubans were still Communists with nuclear weapons.  There was real danger here.

Do you honestly think that Sylvia Duran was cool, calm, collected and ready to answer FBI questions with academic precision?    That's ludicrous.

Sylvia Duran was terrified.  She and Eusebio Azcue had long decided to lie about that "visitor" to the Cuban Consulate.  They said it again and again -- the person who killed JFK didn't look anything like the guy who was in our office during the final week of September 1963.  Nothing!   We don't know a doggone thing about Lee Harvey Oswald!

That, Tommy, is the real context of Sylvia Duran's words.  And nothing whatever to do with the height of LHO to the nearest half-inch.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited May 19, 2017 by Paul Trejo