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Larry - Wheaton didn't name names? I remember him from my Iran Contra trading cards research and the Christic Institute material. Wasn't Wheaten a source for Daniel Sheehan? I'm thinking Rafael Quintero.

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Wheaton did not name the names he heard discussed as having been involved in Dallas.  He did name the individuals he was associated with at the time he heard the Dallas names in reminiscing sessions - that was Jenkins and Quintero, who he indeed was provably associated with at the time.  Wheaton was very firm about not doing anything beyond trying to get those two to offer statements to the government since they would have held the actual information and would have been able to substantiate it while he could not. 

Wheaton was indeed a source for Sheehan but things began to go off the rails shortly afterwards because he had been warned that he would be "poisoned" as  a credible source for trying to get the two on record and sure enough that smear campaign did occur.   If you have the 2010 version of SWHT this is all discussed in some length.  I also go into the overall Contra/drug smuggling thing is another kettle of fish entirely. .

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There is indeed Chris...I bring that up in SWHT (see page 390/391) although its in a couple of places.  I'm not sure I would call them plots though.  There appear to have been at least two sanctioned military missions involving sniper attacks or some sort of ambush of Castro prior to the Bay of Pigs.  One apparently involved  Felix Rodriquez. Those were very serious operations and somebody went to a lot of effort to keep it covert. One of the things that makes Wheaton's story so important is that it was just the two people he mentions - Jenkins and Quintero - who had trained or been in training with some of the key suspects in the Dallas attack. And who were later involved in Contra activities.

When you put that together with RFK's call the afternoon of the assassination to Artime's people (Quintero was his second in command and Felix was on his team)  it continues to take you to the same set of individuals.

Its one of the few places where all the pieces can be proven to fit together.

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2 hours ago, Larry Hancock said:

There is indeed Chris...I bring that up in SWHT (see page 390/391) although its in a couple of places.  I'm not sure I would call them plots though.  There appear to have been at least two sanctioned military missions involving sniper attacks or some sort of ambush of Castro prior to the Bay of Pigs.  One apparently involved  Felix Rodriquez. Those were very serious operations and somebody went to a lot of effort to keep it covert. One of the things that makes Wheaton's story so important is that it was just the two people he mentions - Jenkins and Quintero - who had trained or been in training with some of the key suspects in the Dallas attack. And who were later involved in Contra activities.

When you put that together with RFK's call the afternoon of the assassination to Artime's people (Quintero was his second in command and Felix was on his team)  it continues to take you to the same set of individuals.

Its one of the few places where all the pieces can be proven to fit together.

Agree Larry. And it's a very short distance to a former president, whose interactions with Felix Rodriguez and the rest spanned 30 years. 

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This is excellent.  Thanks for posting, Larry.  

I'd love to hear the other interviews with the guy in Minnesota that he references at the end.

Wheaton's naming Jenkins and Quintero and the motives of the ground crew corroborates some of what we already know of the hit.  When he says people in power had other reasons for getting rid of Kennedy, it implies the person orchestrating the ground level crew (perhaps Jenkins) was on orders from someone higher up and it wasn't as rogue as even some of the participants thought.  Of course, we'll probably never know the connecting piece between the paramilitary people and the "political elite," but if we did I think it would give us a lot more insight.  It could be Phillips, Harvey, or Shackley, but someone who stuck out to me that would be well placed in all of this is Henry Hecksher.  If it were Hecksher, it may imply it was more of an officially sanctioned job than simply turning the gun on Kennedy for revenge. 

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Brian, there have been efforts to contact some of the folks mentioned and the effort continues. To date all we can say for sure is that they are real people and in a couple of cases most definitely associated with Wheaton.  But we need to be cautious, what we have is information that Jenkins had trained some of the individuals involved and that Quintero might have been part of that training or done some later himself during AM/WORLD. Keep in mind that Jenkins supported individuals like Quintero and Felix Quintero who had been involved in abortive paramilitary style attacks to kill Fidel Castro via ambush and sniper attacks circa 61.  Chronology is critical and by 63 of course Jenkins was working for Hecksher and with Artime and Quintero...and working for them were folks like Felix Rodriquez.  Names that show up again in the time frame where Wheaton is trying to get logistics/supply contracts for phase 2 Contra efforts.

So we are talking about not what Jenkins and Quintero did but what the people associated with them knew in terms of the assassination and the tactical team - as well as what the team itself was told in order to get buy in for murdering a President. In NEXUS I lay out what I think is the most likely chain of events, with people higher up - at the level of Angleton and Helms - being concerned about Kennedy's emerging policies of negotiation, and acceptance of neutrality to turn back Soviet expansion. That was exacerbated by the news of his new back channel approach to Castro.  And who was available to carry that message down to JM/WAVE,  William Harvey with his connections to Morales and all the Castro assassination efforts via Roselli.  That takes you back to exactly the same network of tactical paramilitary folks from 61.

Your point is well taken, certainly the team going to Dallas would have to have been motivated,  something more than just revenge being in play, and they would have needed assurances about support.  That's where extreme caution is involved in using words like rogue, sanctioned, etc.  Probably better to describe it than try to name it.  As to Hecksher, he certainly was not connected in to the CIA  power structure as Harvey via Angleton.  But it is clear that he was bitter about JFK and bitter about his current assignment which nobody involved thought was going to work. Would he have given some sort of assent or support if approached by the right person, very possibly....but its unclear who that would be.  Did he have the reach into the right community that Morales and Robertson did, I don't think so.

At the moment some of us are still exploring Hecksher and his rather interesting role in MC during 1962, maybe we will learn something more about exactly how he got the AM/World assignment but right now its unclear as he had always been a wild card, even back in Laos not to mention Japan.  One clue though, look at who bailed him out and sent him to the Golden Triangle when State wanted him fired as COS in Laos, there might be a clue there.

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More on Henry Hecksher please! Until a few days ago in a Hancock post I had never heard of him.

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Well now if you had SWHT 2010 you would know a lot about him, he is discussed throughout.  Also in Shadow Warfare in regard to Guatemala, Laos, and the Artime project.  Dick Russell also presents new research on him in his most recent book.  There are really two independent (well maybe independent) lines of research on him, one in regard to Nagell's story, about Oswald in Japan and in MC where Hecksher was operating and very possibly the CIA cut out to Nagell in 62.  Then there is the well documente4d story of Hecksher as chief of the AM/World operation in 63, Jenkin's boss and in charge of developing and supporting Artime in Am/World. Probably safe to say that a number of the most interesting folks from 1961 had become embedded in the Artime project by 63 - they would go on afterwards across Lation America, many ending up in North's phase of the Contra project.

I also discuss him in regard to his Golden Triange assignment and in regard to the fact that it was he and his network who Garett Underhill was getting rumors about just before the assassination.  So now you know were to look...grin. 

I'd say Hecksher is somewhat like Morales once was, a key player in CIA covert ops from Guatemala on but simply off the radar of most JFK related dialog. 

 

 

 

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