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I hope I'm wrong, but why would the documents release be anything but a sanitized put-up job?  With the main take-away for the press being that there was a "benign cover-up."

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I'm finding things on June Cobb (LICOOKY-1) I didn't have before... nothing amazing yet...

Also read a report that says Duran stapled the photos to each visa application she typed...

Where's the other staple? 

and why does Azcue claim Oswald was there Tues/Wed of that week?

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More and more info about 2-3 visits Oswald supposedly had to MEXICO CITY prior to the dates questioned.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=147166&search=mexico#relPageId=9&tab=page

My favorite is the DISCLAIMER at the top:

"The source DOES NOT HAVE DIRECT KNOWLEDGE.....   BUT....  "

 

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Does anyone think that Gilberto P. Lopez was the Oswald in Mexico? 

Does anyone have the photo mentioned in #2? (I think I found one - thanks Wim) 

http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/rwaters_1/media/bWVkaWFJZDoxOTgwOTQ5Nw==/?ref= 

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https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1994#relPageId=3&tab=page 

And isn't amazing how easily they can trace his travel from Dallas to Cuba - yet so much trouble with Oswald.

Just sayin'

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Not to muddy things, but didn't Richard Case Nagell claim that he met Oswald in Mexico prior to the fall 1963 visit memorialized in the Warren Report?  See the Russell book.

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1 hour ago, David Josephs said:

More and more info about 2-3 visits Oswald supposedly had to MEXICO CITY prior to the dates questioned.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=147166&search=mexico#relPageId=9&tab=page

My favorite is the DISCLAIMER at the top:

"The source DOES NOT HAVE DIRECT KNOWLEDGE.....   BUT....  "

 

img_147166_9_300.png

 

Does anyone think that Gilberto P. Lopez was the Oswald in Mexico? 

Does anyone have the photo mentioned in #2? (I think I found one - thanks Wim) 

http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/rwaters_1/media/bWVkaWFJZDoxOTgwOTQ5Nw==/?ref= 

59f383f825942_TippitkillerGilbertoLOPEZ.thumb.jpg.ded8f3a1f4186a40a17e7a169228ffa9.jpg

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1994#relPageId=3&tab=page 

And isn't amazing how easily they can trace his travel from Dallas to Cuba - yet so much trouble with Oswald.

Just sayin'

img_1994_3_300.png

Saw this on Tippit today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5023235/Dallas-police-officer-JD-Tippit-JFK-s-REAL-assassin.html

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The Daily Mail article is so full of holes, which is too bad because I don't find the idea that Tippit might have been a member if the hit team so farfetched. 

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FYI, Pres. Trump is now tweeting that 'all' the JFK files have been released, sans names and addresses of living people...https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?t=1&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email&iid=74b14d818a974bdc8cbaaad2fc34f671&uid=16260187&nid=244+285868057

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On ‎10‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 3:28 PM, David Andrews said:

Not to muddy things, but didn't Richard Case Nagell claim that he met Oswald in Mexico prior to the fall 1963 visit memorialized in the Warren Report?  See the Russell book.

David,

IIRC, Nagell met Lee Harvey Oswald prior to that Mexico City trip, and warned Oswald that if he (Oswald) succeeded in getting a Visa to Cuba, that he (Nagell) would shoot Oswald dead.

This was two weeks prior to the Mexico trip, IIRC.  The result was (IIRC) that Oswald sat in his kitchen and wept that night, without telling Marina why.  Then, Oswald began making plans to get to Cuba by other means -- including hijacking a plane there. 

From other sources -- Oswald tried to pressure Marina to help him hijack a plane to Cuba, and she told him that he was crazy.   Then Oswald tried to pressure Ron Lewis to help him hijack a plan to Cuba, and Ron Lewis told Oswald, "Cuba is only 50 miles from Florida, so why make a Federal case out of it?  Just steal a tiny plane from a tiny airport -- and let it be a local crime with low publicity!"

That night, as Marina reported -- Lee was in a much better mood, and exclaimed to her, "Did you know that Cuba is only 50 miles from Florida?"

BTW -- I believe that the US Government will release all of the JFK materials, simply because a former US President (GHW Bush) put it into writing.  It's official.  That's how bureaucracies work.  I see little benefit in President Trump blocking the release -- unless he wants the Radical Right to save face.  But for what?  For General Walker?   Yet hardly .01% of Americans even remember Walker!  

BTW -- In response to the question of this thread -- I can always remember where I was when I learned about the upcoming release of JFK records -- I WAS RIGHT HERE ON THIS FORUM -- YEARS AGO.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited by Paul Trejo

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David:

That is interesting about the guy not having any real knowledge but saying that somehow Calderon is an important figure.  Maybe that is where the alleged phone call to Calderon story came from.

Pamela, I do not know where that Trump story came from.  Do we have rule by Tweet now?

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On 10/30/2017 at 2:29 PM, James DiEugenio said:

David:

That is interesting about the guy not having any real knowledge but saying that somehow Calderon is an important figure.  Maybe that is where the alleged phone call to Calderon story came from.

Pamela, I do not know where that Trump story came from.  Do we have rule by Tweet now?

Trump tweets.  Here are two, with my replies: 

Yes, it may now be 'rule by Executweet.' 

Edited by Pamela Brown

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Just a curious aside.

In the link to the home movie that Doug Caddy provides in the thread above this one, we see Oswald at his brother Robert's house at Christmas time.

In this home movie clip we see Lee Oswald wearing a vest sweater.

In this thread we see a still photo of Oswald, also wearing a vest sweater. Same sweater?

Even if it isn't, at least we know that LHO owned, wore and obviously liked this particular type of clothing.

Doesn't mean anything I know, unless of course maybe someone who said they saw Oswald in some other suspicious place and suspicious time ( like Oswald being seen in the Carousel?) may have described him wearing this particular type of clothing.

Isn't there a picture out there of another alleged Oswald sitting in the Carousel during a strip show and isn't this alleged Oswald also wearing a sweater?

Edited by Joe Bauer

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