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15 hours ago, Michael Clark said:

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10125-10246.pdf

october 8, 1963 description of LHO in Mexico City.

A bit more info on that document...  

This is the one that Anne Goodpasture and Barbara Mandel send to CIA HQ ...  from Ch 6 on Mexico: https://statick2k-5f2f.kxcdn.com/images/pdf/chapter6_3c.pdf 

"Bill Simpich provided me with the documentation links showing that Goodpasture, working with LADILLINGER (Soviet Desk officer Barbara Murphy Manell), took what was obviously a photo from 12:22 on Oct 2nd and represented it as Oct 1 to match the call transcript."

There is literally nothing factual in that memo...  and Ms. Goodpasture did not make mistakes over simple dates...

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Why it fits so well that DAP masterminded the CI operation of OSWALD IN MEXICO....

David Atlee Phillips receives a package as MICHAEL CHOADEN sent from MX to HQ on OCT 1
On OCT 2 a memo is sent from MX to HQ stating that the "AMMO REQUESTED STILL NOT REC'D".... SUGGEST CHOADEN BRINGS AMMO ON NRETURN MEXI"

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Wasn't TIPPIT killed with .38 Special Ammo?

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An OCT 4 memo goes from HQ to MX informing them of DAP's position and his arrival OCT 7
 

The Memo you posted is from OCT 8, 1 day after Phillips arrives as CUBAN DESK CHIEF...  the problem which arises is that the contemporaneous SUMMARY REPORTS for LIENVOY activity for the month of SEPT 1963 does not mention any of the calls from SEPT to the RUSSIAN numbers...  This report is also dated OCT 8

 

It has always been my theory that any "evidence" created after the fact would have to conflict with any contemporaneous reports filed o was the FBI/CIA watched Oswald...  If this man actually called these locations on the 27th and 28th it would have been mentioned in these reports...  Only when we get to OCT do we see mention of the English speaking man...

From the OCT 8 report https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/104-10413-10268.pdf
we are told of only 2 leads of operational interest in SEPT 1963...  neither one is OSWALD...

How can there be transcripts of LEE OSWALD calls from SEPT 27/28 yet them not mentioned until the NOV report on OCT activity, and only a single line in passing...  by the NOV SUMMARY REPORT - shouldn't we be seeing the name OSWALD

We must also remember that the Cuban Embassy closed at 2pm, and was closed on weekends...  yet Oswald. "notwithstanding" was able to proceed with his discussions and meetings.

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As I said, David is doing stellar work on Mexico City.  IMO, he is resetting the paradigm.

My God David, what on earth do you think that request to Choaden for .38 ammo means?

Did Phillips need it for a CIA operation down there?

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On 7/27/2018 at 8:46 AM, David Josephs said:

A bit more info on that document...  

This is the one that Anne Goodpasture and Barbara Mandel send to CIA HQ ...  from Ch 6 on Mexico: https://statick2k-5f2f.kxcdn.com/images/pdf/chapter6_3c.pdf 

"Bill Simpich provided me with the documentation links showing that Goodpasture, working with LADILLINGER (Soviet Desk officer Barbara Murphy Manell), took what was obviously a photo from 12:22 on Oct 2nd and represented it as Oct 1 to match the call transcript."

There is literally nothing factual in that memo...  and Ms. Goodpasture did not make mistakes over simple dates...

1544174973_63-10-02Russ104-10413-10426LOGFILM14420EAXP-October2ndlogshowingphotoofMysteryman.jpg.034c88132ffa860f6e9cf56ed8121061.jpg

=====================================

Why it fits so well that DAP masterminded the CI operation of OSWALD IN MEXICO....

David Atlee Phillips receives a package as MICHAEL CHOADEN sent from MX to HQ on OCT 1
On OCT 2 a memo is sent from MX to HQ stating that the "AMMO REQUESTED STILL NOT REC'D".... SUGGEST CHOADEN BRINGS AMMO ON NRETURN MEXI"

1460534009_63-10-02HSCAmicrofilmreel47104-10529-10119AMMOREQUESTEDnotrecd-38SPECIALAMMOPhillipsshouldbringupfromMexi-CROPPED.jpg.f73d22eca9526465691c6378a8bbe8d1.jpg

Wasn't TIPPIT killed with .38 Special Ammo?

2145434580_5bulletsfromOswaldcompartedtobulletsinammobelt.jpg.501205107821a313f1d4e49286fc6189.jpg

1171470736_63-10-02HSCAmicrofilmreel47104-10529-10119AMMOREQUESTEDnotrecd-38SPECIALAMMOPhillipsshouldbringupfromMexi.thumb.png.4bebfbd73158ce4d1efca4c07876a254.png

 

An OCT 4 memo goes from HQ to MX informing them of DAP's position and his arrival OCT 7
 

The Memo you posted is from OCT 8, 1 day after Phillips arrives as CUBAN DESK CHIEF...  the problem which arises is that the contemporaneous SUMMARY REPORTS for LIENVOY activity for the month of SEPT 1963 does not mention any of the calls from SEPT to the RUSSIAN numbers...  This report is also dated OCT 8

 

It has always been my theory that any "evidence" created after the fact would have to conflict with any contemporaneous reports filed o was the FBI/CIA watched Oswald...  If this man actually called these locations on the 27th and 28th it would have been mentioned in these reports...  Only when we get to OCT do we see mention of the English speaking man...

From the OCT 8 report https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2018/104-10413-10268.pdf
we are told of only 2 leads of operational interest in SEPT 1963...  neither one is OSWALD...

How can there be transcripts of LEE OSWALD calls from SEPT 27/28 yet them not mentioned until the NOV report on OCT activity, and only a single line in passing...  by the NOV SUMMARY REPORT - shouldn't we be seeing the name OSWALD

We must also remember that the Cuban Embassy closed at 2pm, and was closed on weekends...  yet Oswald. "notwithstanding" was able to proceed with his discussions and meetings.

1522557893_75-05-02RussHolmes104-10428-10021CIAsummaryofOswaldinMexicoCityp1-2-CROPPEDp2Sept28info.jpg.b4d90a233093b0544660b02881ec139c.jpg

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I’m curious who the “highly productive agent” is that accepts no salary that they’re trying to do a favor for...

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On 7/29/2018 at 2:03 AM, Mike Kilroy said:

I’m curious who the “highly productive agent” is that accepts no salary that they’re trying to do a favor for...

Mike,

 

And who would have a .38 special that he couldn't get ammo for down in Mexico?

It implies that he is not a local.

 

Steve Thomas

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Some CIA documents regarding Garrison investigation

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Hugh Aynesworth informs Brown (& Root) of implications 

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10104-10372.pdf

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https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10104-10373.pdf

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https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10104-10311.pdf

 

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