Steve Thomas Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Would anyone look at these two documents and give me your impressions? https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10331-10180.pdf https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10336-10034.pdf Who was IJDECANTER? and can you tell me what the CIA cryptogram CI/EXO or CIC/EXO stands for? Thanks, Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Does anyone know what the crypts GPIDEAL and GPFLOOR stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Butler Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Sure I read somewhere GPIDEAL was JFK ? Might be misremembering that though Wasn't Nosenko in the Second Directorate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 " In the 1978-79 period, the ban on the destruction of Angleton's Files ... was lifted, and a number of files were destroyed." Not informed at all on these reports, but this particular entry reminds us again of the reality of decades of constant destruction of what one must assume are large amounts of high level JFK related files which brings forth the same sad truth question: " Do we really expect any serious deep truth revealing from any new releases from those that held these...ever? How can there be when we have been told that so much has been destroyed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) I think David is correct, GP Ideal is President Kennedy. The information on the destruction of Angleton's files was reported I think in Mangold's book. I have no idea who Decanter is. (You have to hand it to the CIA with these cryptonyms they dream up. They actually said at one time they were machine generated.) I have never seen internal ARRB documents this heavily censored. Does anyone have access to that LA Times article that is referenced? Edited November 25, 2017 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 44 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said: " In the 1978-79 period, the ban on the destruction of Angleton's Files ... was lifted, and a number of files were destroyed." Not informed at all on these reports, but this particular entry reminds us again of the reality of decades of constant destruction of what one must assume are large amounts of high level JFK related files which brings forth the same sad truth question: " Do we really expect any serious deep truth revealing from any new releases from those that held these...ever? How can there be when we have been told that so much has been destroyed? David A and David B, *smile*, Yeah, GPFLOOR was the Cryptonym assigned to LHO in its post JFK assassination investigation GPIDEAL was the cryptonym assigned to JFK Joe, I'd like to know who lifted the ban on destruction of Angleton's files. PS: Whoever IJDECANTER was, his identity had to be protected at all costs. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: I have no idea to Decanter is. (You have to hand to the CIA with these cryptonyms they dream up. They actually said at one time they were machine generated.) Indeed, some of CIA's cryptonyms seem too apt or too humorous to be machine generated. So is DECANTER someone who drank a lot? Or talked a lot? descant 1 a : a melody or counterpoint sung above the plainsong of the tenor 2 : discourse or comment on a theme Edited November 25, 2017 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said: PS: Whoever IJDECANTER was, his identity had to be protected at all costs. Steve Thomas IJDECANTER was a fake cryptonym assigned to protect was his real cryptonym was. Talk about a house of mirrors. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Benson Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 See : https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10014-10057.pdf https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10014-10058.pdf possibly https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10014-10056.pdf ====================== IJDECANTER was 2nd Chief Directorate KGB Officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Benson Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10052-10198.pdf On a Routing Sheet, there is a listing of Mr Russ Holmes, O/CI/EXO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 51 minutes ago, Brian Benson said: https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10052-10198.pdf On a Routing Sheet, there is a listing of Mr Russ Holmes, O/CI/EXO Brian, Thank you. Just on a hunch, I ran EXO through the Mary Ferrell Foundation web site. There's about 600 document references to EXO, including these two: SIGNIFICANT DETAILS REGARDING VISIT BY SENATE COMMITTEE REPRESENTATIVES WORKING ON THE OSWALD CASE https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=6926&relPageId=7&search=EXO LETTER TO PATRICK CARPENTIER FROM G. ROBERT BLAKEY https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=50776&relPageId=2&search=EXO The first one tells me that EXO is a person. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger DeLaria Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) On 11/25/2017 at 11:51 AM, David Andrews said: Indeed, some of CIA's cryptonyms seem too apt or too humorous to be machine generated. So is DECANTER someone who drank a lot? Or talked a lot? descant 1 a : a melody or counterpoint sung above the plainsong of the tenor 2 : discourse or comment on a theme I understand Angleton drank alot, and Harvey as well. So who knows? Edited December 4, 2017 by Roger DeLaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Benson Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 03/12/2017 at 4:21 PM, Steve Thomas said: The first one tells me that EXO is a person. Steve Thomas I think it is a simple title abbreviation, Here it is used in context. https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1964-68v06/d40 "COS and EXO will spend night in Station, with a backup commo command post in another area of the city. " COS, Chief of Staff DCI, Director of Central Intelligence DCM, Deputy Chief of Mission EXO, Executive Officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 6 hours ago, Brian Benson said: I think it is a simple title abbreviation, Here it is used in context. https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1964-68v06/d40 "COS and EXO will spend night in Station, with a backup commo command post in another area of the city. " COS, Chief of Staff DCI, Director of Central Intelligence DCM, Deputy Chief of Mission EXO, Executive Officer Brian, He, or she, seems to be the "keeper of the files" in some way. See page 3 of this document: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=6926&search=EXO#relPageId=3&tab=page "seven file folders on the Oswald case which had been kept by CI/R&A in the former SIG vault" Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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