Lee Harvey Oswald's possessions

[Zach Jendro]

I would like to discuss a research project I have been working on for the past couple of years concerning Lee Oswald’s possessions and what they mean. I had started to become a bit frustrated with my own research as I continued to go further and further down “the rabbit hole” and I decided to pull everything back in to focus. I decided to view this case as a crime, rather than a conspiracy theory. I figured the best way to understand the crime was to look at the physical evidence owned by the suspect. I had decided to examine how it was gathered and analyzed, first of all. Then, I wanted to look at the items to see what kind of story they told.

I believe this research has uncovered some new leads which have not been fully explored. Some of the topics have been discussed, but deserve to be reexamined. I am hoping that some of the members here can shed some light on some of these subjects.

A short and incomplete list of some of the topics:

 

1. The search for evidence about Oswald’s trip to Mexico. How was it that the bus ticket (the strongest evidence which supported Oswald in Mexico) appeared in Marina’s brown suitcase six months after it had already been searched, particularly during a time when the Warren Commission was scrambling to place Oswald in Mexico? There was a distinct pattern of important pieces of evidence appearing out of thin air after thorough searches. Also, Lee had a bar of Mexican soap at his boarding room, as well as some other small items from Mexico. I know he said he had been in Tijuana (I assume he meant while he was in the Marines) but it is really interesting that he had a bar of soap as that is something that people generally do not keep as a keepsake for too long and he didn’t really have many keepsakes at Beckley.

2. The Imperial Reflex camera has no real provenance, other than it came from Robert Oswald and turned into the WC in March 1964. There really is no evidence that Lee even owned it, other than Marina’s word, which should not be accepted at face value since she admitted that she lied to the Commission due to threats from the FBI. In fact, during her HSCA testimony, she would not even positively identify it.

3. What is the connection between Oswald and the Red Cross? The Red Cross had assisted Lee in getting his hardship discharge in 1959. The Red Cross was the organization which also gave Lee his living expenses in the Soviet Union. Lee sent his mother to a Red Cross office to attempt to gather funds to return home. Then, the State Department got intervened immediately as a result of this transaction. Finally, Oswald mentioned the Red Cross by name in the “Walker Letter” as a place for Marina to get help if he got arrested. This organization was lurking in the background since Lee was in the military and played some pretty important roles. The Warren Report lied about the role of the Red Cross in the USSR and when one looks at the history of that organization, it is pretty apparent that it has been used a s cover for espionage activities. This needs to be examined further.

4. The story of Oswald’s birth certificate is really important. Too much to talk about here, but why was a Marine recruiter pressuring Marguerite to get Lee to forge his birth certificate to join the Marines below the standard enlistment age? What made Lee so important and different than any other kid? Also, it seems the recruiter was already discussing sending him to Japan at that early stage. This is just the tip of the iceberg for this mystery.

5. Most intriguing of all are items I call “mystery items” which have never been fully explained, such as an “electronic device of an unknown nature” which had a broken brown plastic case. It was entered into inventory after the DPD picked it up at Beckley and was never seen again. What was this device?

6. The two dollar bill halves supposedly in Lee's possession. The serial number of one of the bills matches exactly with counterfeit bills which were passed in Sedalia, MO. This is too big to be a coincidence. Was Lee involved with some kind of counterfeit operation?

7. A mess pass made out to “Sgt. Oswald” for the Zebra NCO club in Yokohama, Japan, which was a club frequented by NCO’s from Atsugi. Oswald was not a sergeant... how did he get this pass and why did he have it? He should not have even been allowed in the club and this corresponds with other reports of him going off base to the various social clubs. What does this all mean?

8. Oswald worked at Jaggars with someone else’s Social Security Number. This was the only instance of him working with an incorrect SSN and it just so happens that it was at a facility which dealt with classified military materials. Are we truly to believe that Oswald was allowed to work at JCS, a military contractor while the Cuban Missile Crisis was going on, without any kind of a background check AND with an incorrect SSN?

I have never posted here before. I don’t believe this is breaking any of the rules as I am not selling anything. If this is improper, I apologize, but I really would just like this material to be examined because I think there are some new leads here. The link to the website is below. Thank you very much for your consideration.

 

https://debunked.wordpress.com/the-possessions-of-lee-harvey-oswald/

[Micah Mileto]

28 minutes ago, Zach Jendro said:

1. The search for evidence about Oswald’s trip to Mexico. How was it that the bus ticket (the strongest evidence which supported Oswald in Mexico) appeared in Marina’s brown suitcase six months after it had already been searched, particularly during a time when the Warren Commission was scrambling to place Oswald in Mexico? There was a distinct pattern of important pieces of evidence appearing out of thin air after thorough searches. Also, Lee had a bar of Mexican soap at his boarding room, as well as some other small he two dollar bill halves supposedly in Lee's possession. The serial number of one of the bills matches exactly with counterfeit bills which were passed in Sedalia, MO. This is too big to be a coincidence. Was Lee involved with some kind of counterfeit operation?

Are you referring to this? 

 

If so, there is actually no proof that this is referring to something in Oswald's possession, the note stands alone devoid of any extra context besides being sorted into the same box as many other documents on cataloging Oswald and Ruby's belongings. However, the plot would only thicken further if this note is describing halved dollar bills belonging to someone other than Oswald, because look at the Police inventory of the contents of his wallet:

 

https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/html/WH_Vol22_0105a.htm

 

$1.00 Silver, Certificate, H 34575513 A, 1957 A, (Above bears pencil notation "300" - bill torn

How torn does a dollar bill have to be for a police inventory to specifically state that it is torn? I wonder if these wallet contents still exist in evidence today. 

The circled three-digit numbers "180" and "221" on the DPD note indicates a correlation with the "300" pencil notation on the Oswald wallet dollar bill. The Oswald dollar bill could have been partially ripped so it will be easier to remember it and also to tear off the other half and give it to someone else. 

 

Seems like pretty common sense evidence that Oswald was secretly trying to contact people, I don't know what plausible freak coincidences you could even think of.  

Edited December 6, 2017 by Micah Mileto

[Zach Jendro]

Here is the quote from the article: "According to a note found among the inventory paperwork concerning Oswald’s possessions, the accused assassin had halves of two one-dollar bills in his wallet. Both of these items have disappeared. Many observers, including researcher John Armstrong, have felt that these fragments were to have been used as some form of signal for a rendezvous, a sort of spy ID. (The above-mentioned Cox’s box top has also been theorized to have been such a device.) While evidence for these fragments are scant, it is known that, as reported in the Sedalia (Missouri) Democrat of April 9, 1969, counterfeit $10 bills (1963 Series) were passed in Sedalia which featured the same serial number as one of the Oswald bills (F38355215A). This strongly indicates that Oswald may have been involved in some way with (or possibly investigating) a counterfeiting operation at the time of the assassination."

[Zach Jendro]

Micah, do you not understand that counterfeiters were passing dollar bills with the same serial number as the bill that was supposedly in Oswald's possession? Do you know what the odds of having two bills with the same serial number are? There are over 3 billion different number and letter combinations. You think that is a coincidence?

[Gary Murr]

Welcome to the forum, Zach, and an interesting first posting. Am I to assume, based upon what I see in your avatar, that you are potentially a fellow Canadian?

 

Gary Murr

[Zach Jendro]

9 minutes ago, Gary Murr said:

Welcome to the forum, Zach, and an interesting first posting. Am I to assume, based upon what I see in your avatar, that you are potentially a fellow Canadian?

 

Gary Murr

Hi Gary, my wife and stepchildren are Canadian. My wife is a JFK researcher, also, but she is not on the forum. I live in Ontario part of the year until my immigration is sorted out. Nice to meet you and thank you for the nice welcome! 

[Michaleen Kilroy]

The story of Oswald’s radio is enough to send you down the rabbit hole yet again. 

Trying to find a great saga I read about it. As usual, ends up with researcher getting look at it and it was destroyed by FBI.

[Zach Jendro]

Just now, Mike Kilroy said:

The story of Oswald’s radio is enough to send you down the rabbit hole yet again. 

Trying to find a great saga I read about it. As usual, ends up with researcher getting look at it and it was destroyed by FBI.

Do you have any additional information about it? I can only assume it was a radio. He also had a Soviet made radio but these were two separate items.

[Micah Mileto]

1 hour ago, Zach Jendro said:

Micah, do you not understand that counterfeiters were passing dollar bills with the same serial number as the bill that was supposedly in Oswald's possession? Do you know what the odds of having two bills with the same serial number are? There are over 3 billion different number and letter combinations. You think that is a coincidence?

Hold on, source? 

[Ron Bulman]

Welcome also.  But be forewarned.  Regarding his possessions, at some point you will have to address his three wallets and those pesky cameras. 

Edited December 6, 2017 by Ron Bulman

[Michaleen Kilroy]

2 hours ago, Zach Jendro said:

Do you have any additional information about it? I can only assume it was a radio. He also had a Soviet made radio but these were two separate items.

Found the article:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/oakton/oswalds-radio-1zk85?utm_term=.ukXw0DRnOZ#.pt3NwpyXZe

[Steve Thomas]

7 hours ago, Zach Jendro said:

I would like to discuss a research project I have been working on for the past couple of years concerning Lee Oswald’s possessions and what they mean.

8. Oswald worked at Jaggars with someone else’s Social Security Number. This was the only instance of him working with an incorrect SSN and it just so happens that it was at a facility which dealt with classified military materials. Are we truly to believe that Oswald was allowed to work at JCS, a military contractor while the Cuban Missile Crisis was going on, without any kind of a background check AND with an incorrect SSN?

I have never posted here before. I don’t believe this is breaking any of the rules as I am not selling anything. If this is improper, I apologize, but I really would just like this material to be examined because I think there are some new leads here. The link to the website is below. Thank you very much for your consideration.

 

https://debunked.wordpress.com/the-possessions-of-lee-harvey-oswald/

Zach,

 

You've asked a lot of probing intelligent questions.

Might I suggest, if you haven't done so, to look a the City of Dallas JFK Collection here:

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/index.html

Check the Index under Property - there's a lot to wade through. I can't say for certainty that everything in there made its way into the Warren Commission's list of Exhibits. They probably did, but I've never really sat them down side by side to compare them.

(One set is is in Box 7, Folder# 10, Item# 59. These were taken out of the Irving address I think)

 

I asked the question about Oswald's social security number a couple of years ago here:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/5255-lhos-ss-number/

 

In Box 6, Folder# 7, Item# 23 p.1

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box6.htm

There is a Louisiana Interstate Request for Reconsideration of Monetary Determination. (I think LHO was requesting his unemployment compensation from Jaggers-Chiles-Stovall be reconsidered).

The SSN number for LHO is given as 433-54-3937.

but here:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=58995&search=Jaggars#relPageId=116&tab=page

his SS# is listed as: 433-56-3739

 

WC Exhibit 427 (an Employee ID questionnaire) here:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=182&tab=page

gives Oswald's SS# as 433-54-3937

 

I wonder who made the mistake on his payroll record. I know Oswald seemed to transpose numbers a lot. I don't think we have an actual application for the job at JCS - I could be wrong.

And maybe at that time, JCS didn't make copies of a person's SS card when they applied for a job. I wonder too why the Social Security Administration didn't catch that when they started withholding Social Security from his wages.

 

Steve Thomas

 

[Jeff Carter]

hi Steve

I believe WC Exhibit 427 served as Oswald's application at JCS.

[Lawrence Schnapf]

and no black shirt or black pair of pants that he supposedly wore when he stood for the backyard photos were ever found among his belongings.

[Steve Thomas]

10 hours ago, Jeff Carter said:

hi Steve

I believe WC Exhibit 427 served as Oswald's application at JCS.

Hi Jeff,

 

It's been a long time since I read Graef's WC testimony.

Wow! That's some job application process.

No phone, no social security number, no signature on the application, a PO Box as your permanent address.

Mr. GRAEF. Into this box here---at the time that I interviewed him, it was probably--then, I--after this card was written, he may have been employed here at our place, oh, perhaps a week or two before this card was brought in to him to sign.
Mr. JENNER. I see.
Mr. GRAEF. In other words, I think because of the busy way the department runs, sometimes days will elapse before we get around to getting one of these to him and getting his social security number and so forth. In other words, he came to work and some days may have elapsed from the time, for example, that we had the interviews, there may have been some days passed before he actually came to work. Now, at this time, when I took this information down on my notes, my personal notes of the interview, there was no phone number, as I recall.

 

Steve Thomas