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Steve Thomas

Cubans sorted by name

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I happened to stumble on this by accident. It looks to be a CIA list of Cuban names sorted by patronymic name and matronymic name.

Some of the names also provide a short physical description.

 

I thought it might be helpful to researchers looking for somebody under both names.

HSCA Segregated CIA Collection Box 33

 

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=77011&search=Pinillos#relPageId=63&tab=page

 

Steve Thomas

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Hi Steve:

 

In addition, see the two MF links below; they tie in with your "Cubans sorted by names" but importantly also contain fairly decent mug shots of everyone on these listings.

FWIW

Gary

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=77012&relPageId=2&search="Cuban_mugbook Vol II"

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=77013&relPageId=2&search="Cuban_mugbook Vol III"

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And further, Steve, "Cuban Mug book Vol III" has the CIA's 201 file numbers affixed to those on whom they, the CIA, had obviously opened a file.

Gary

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51 minutes ago, Gary Murr said:

Hi Steve:

 

In addition, see the two MF links below; they tie in with your "Cubans sorted by names" but importantly also contain fairly decent mug shots of everyone on these listings.

FWIW

Gary

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=77012&relPageId=2&search="Cuban_mugbook Vol II"

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=77013&relPageId=2&search="Cuban_mugbook Vol III"

Thanks Gary,

 

Guess I didn't go far enough did I?

 

Steve Thomas

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No problem; as you indicated, all of this material is useful.

 

Gary

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Posted (edited)

DUDES!

This some real shizzit.

For real, great stuff. Thanks!

Edited by Glenn Nall

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What's interesting to me is the fact that someone (Dude#1) happens "to stumble on this by accident." Notwithstanding the fact that this happens all the time, what's fascinating - and realistically exciting - is that there are so many items which are so stumbled upon, and innocently ignored, possibly letting "something" seemingly innocuous remain ignored.

There really is no telling when something that is stumbled upon by accident might connect another item or two which would otherwise be left adrift in the sea, and which might actually matter.

I wonder how much viable and pertinent data in this investigation is available solely due to a couple of otherwise harmless but connected "revelations."

i.e.: "Ok, wait a minute - Henry Crown owned General Dynamics, AND Henry Crown ran Hilton Hotels IN HAVANA, Cuba? AND Gen Dyn's Security officer Frank Pace was one of the nine members of JFK's President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board...?? AND Gen. Maxwell Clark was former security officer for the Fort Worth plant of General Dynamics...??? AND Henry Crown was a close associate of Jack Ruby's 24th Ward (Chicago) boss Jake Arvey...????"

WTF?????

I think that there is, in something like this, no such thing as "seemingly innocent." Thanks,  Steve. (Dude#1)

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So the white elephant in the room, has anyone tried to use facial recognition software to line up the photos with the guy next to umbrella man?

Hmm?????

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2 minutes ago, Cory Santos said:

So the white elephant in the room, has anyone tried to use facial recognition software to line up the photos with the guy next to umbrella man?

Hmm?????

Cory,

 

Along the same lines, I once read that photos of Manuel Rodriguez Orcarberro don't exist. I tried looking up his name in that list both ways, but I didn't find him.

(At this point in my life, I think that's who DCM is)

 

Dude# 1

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4 hours ago, David Boylan said:

I couldn't find Felipe Vidal's name listed. Many feel he was DCM.

David,

 

Here's my reasoning, if you're interested.

 

In 2014, Richard Douglas posted a series of photos of the Dark Complected Man in the jfkassassinationforum here:

 

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=da10693a75f6fceb0ce372badd010bff&topic=11687.0

 

He heads west towards the underpass, and then turns around and heads back east towards Houston St.


Would you say that this man is 5'11", 158 lbs, has brown hair, wears dark glasses, and has a dark complexion?

The physical description provided above is not that of the Dark Complected Man, but of Manuel Rodriguez Orcarberro.


See 5/26/64 FBI Report of SA Wallace Heitman, page 5

http://www.maryferre...p;relPageId=223

 

WC Testimony of Roger Craig:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/craig.htm

 

Mr. BELIN - What about the man who was driving the car?
Mr. CRAIG - Now, he struck me, at first, as being a colored male. He was very dark complected, had real dark short hair, and was wearing a thin white-looking Jacket---uh, it looked like the short windbreaker type, you know, because it was real thin and had the collar that came out over the shoulder (indicating with hands) like that--just a short jacket.

 

Raul Castro Baile, one of the Officers of the Dallas Chapter of SNFE/Alpha 66 owned a Rambler. It had a bumper sticker on it that read, “Kan the Kennedy Klan” that he picked up at a John Birch Society meeting. Somebody had altered it to read, “Kill the Kennedy Klan”, and after the assassination Juan Quintana was observed trying to remove it.

 

Steve Thomas

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14 hours ago, Cory Santos said:

So the white elephant in the room, has anyone tried to use facial recognition software to line up the photos with the guy next to umbrella man?

Hmm?????

So I went thru the 2 mug shot books...   this is the only one I spotted who was close.

Not sure if he's dark enough...  just a guess.

5a4eb599f370f_UmbrellaandDarkMan-possibleID.jpg.75fc051fc60c6b8aba01aa0041b903d2.jpg

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13 minutes ago, David Josephs said:

So I went thru the 2 mug shot books...   this is the only one I spotted who was close.

Not sure if he's dark enough...  just a guess.

5a4eb599f370f_UmbrellaandDarkMan-possibleID.jpg.75fc051fc60c6b8aba01aa0041b903d2.jpg

Through extensive and sleepless research, I am convinced that DCM had gone straight to Dealey Plaza from a tanning booth located in room 116 of the Adolphus Hotel, wherein it is proposed that J Edgar Hoover and David Ferrie also enjoyed "lying in wait."

This photographic comparison, provided by the intrepid David Josephs, is yet more evidence.

But I could be wrong.

 

 

Edited by Glenn Nall

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Just now, Glenn Nall said:

Through extensive and sleepless research, I am convinced that DCM had gone straight to Dealey Plaza from a tanning booth.

But I could be wrong.

 

 

I think spray-on came before the booths....   those early bulbs left a nasty mark....

:cheers

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3 minutes ago, David Josephs said:

So I went thru the 2 mug shot books...   this is the only one I spotted who was close.

Not sure if he's dark enough...  just a guess.

5a4eb599f370f_UmbrellaandDarkMan-possibleID.jpg.75fc051fc60c6b8aba01aa0041b903d2.jpg

Hmm... see that is the problem I have, when you look at this guy he seems to have different features in different photos, almost like its not the same guy.  I saw a good up close photo a while back, let me see if I can find it.  Keep it up.

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