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Steve Thomas

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I was looking through a couple of things, and I picked up what I think is an anomaly. A couple of anomalies actually, but the one I concentrated on has to do with Vernon, Texas.

 

Post by curtjester1 in alt.conspiracy.jfk newsgroup 5/10/08

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/BWTZckmwwBo/iF-_Vk2TTsQJ

 

On June 3(1961) "Marguerite Oswald" left 1612 Hurley and left a forwarding
address of "General Delivery, Cromwell, Texas." She began working for
Otis Crafford, owner of McAdams Ranch, as a housekeeper and cook. On
June 8, "Marguerite" wrote to Lee HARVEY Oswald in Russia, and listed
her return address as Box 608 Cromwell, Texas. Her employment at the
McAdams Ranch ended two months later, on Aug. 1, 1961 because she
argued continuously with Otis Crafford's mother-in-law.

 

"Marguerite" then moved to another ranch in Vernon, Texas owned by Mr.
Phillips and was hired to care for the elderly parents of his and was
photographed standing by her 1954 Buick in front of Vernon Bicycle
Shop, and included the photo she wrote to her "son" in Minsk, Russia.


SA Fain was not successful in locating "Marguerite" but was told by
Robert Oswald that his "mother" was living in Vernon. On October 13,
"Marguerite" was interviewed by SA Jarrell Davis in Vernon.

(4H413-414)

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=34#relPageId=422&tab=page

 

 

CE 180 is an Undated letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to Mrs. M. Oswald, with envelope.

Dear Mother, Received your letter today and was surprised that you are working on a ranch. Where is Cromwell, Texas anyway? How is it you decilded (sic) to go there?

Envelope is addressed to Mrs. M. Oswald in Box 608 Crowell, TX.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1133#relPageId=555&tab=page

 

CE 181 - Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to Mrs. M. Oswald, dated August 3, 1961, with envelope.

I wrote Robert, and he was surprised that you are working at Cromwell, Texas, don't you write at all to each other?”

Envelope is addressed to Mrs. M. Oswald Box 608 Cromwell, TX. Cromwell is crossed out and the words, “Try Crowell” is written in. This is crossed out and 1808 Eagle, Vernon is written in.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1133#relPageId=557&tab=page

 

There is no Cromwell, Texas. Crowell, Texas and Vernon, Texas are both about 195 miles northwest of Fort Worth. Crowell and Vernon are approximately 33 miles apart.

 

CE 182 - Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to Marguerite Oswald, dated October 2, 1961, with envelope.

I hope you are feeling well and enjoying your stay in Vernon. How is the weather in Fort Worth and Vernon now?” Envelope is addressed to Mrs. M. Oswald 1808 Eagle St. Apt. 3 Vernon, Texas.

 

In August, Lee believes that his mother is in Cromwell (or Crowell), Texas. In October, he is asking how she is enjoying Vernon.

 

CE 183 - Letter from Lee Harvey Oswald to Marguerite Oswald, dated October 22, 1959, with envelope. (The year 1959 is obviously a mistake). He mentions Marina in the letter. He spells Marina's maiden name as Proosakova. The translator spells it Proosakava. In his letter he writes, “For my birthday, Marina sent me a gold and silver cup with the inscription, “To my Dear Husband on his birthday 18/X/61 very nice don't you think, Marina is on her vacation (sic) now, she is spending it with her aunt in the city of “KHARKOV” about 600 miles South East of here.... We both agreeded (sic) that she should go to a new enviroment (sic) on her vaction (sic)...”

 

In the body of the letter, Oswald uses the Americanized date of October 22, 1961, but the gold and silver cup is inscribed with the Russianized date of 18/X/61. This makes me think of the controversy over the DeMohrenschildt, “Hunter of Fascists” photograph. Also, in October, Lee and Marina had only been married for six months. Why would they both agree that she should take her vacation 600 miles away? (My own thought is that with their astrological signs being squared, they really didn't get along. I wonder why they got married in the first place). Is this a different aunt than the one in Leningrad?


 

I won't go into all of the misspellings, but he writes that he would like Marina to learn English, and has bought some books for her, but she doesn't want to learn. She doesn't want to learn another language right now and is too busy at work anyway.

The envelope is addressed to Mrs. M. Oswald 1808 Eagle St. Apt. 3 Vernon, Texas.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1133#relPageId=564&tab=page

(16H540)


 

On January 4, 1960, Lee Harvey Oswald applied for a non-citizen alien identity card. In the space for the names of relatives living abroad, he listed his mother, Margaret living at 3124 W. 5th. St. in Fort Worth. No brother is listed. Four photographs are provided.

 

On January 11, 1960 he submitted an application for employment at the Minsk Radio and TV plant. On his application, he wrote that his parents were dead, and he had no brothers or sisters.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&search=%22Harvey_Lee+Oswald%22#relPageId=441&tab=page

 

On January 4, 1961 Lee Harvey Oswald applied for an non-citizen alien identity card. As part of his application he listed his mother as Margaret and his brother as Robert. “Margaret's” address is listed as P.O. Box 982 Vernon.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&search=%22Harvey_Lee+Oswald%22#relPageId=434&tab=page

 

In August, Lee believes that his mother is in Cromwell (or Crowell), Texas. In October, he is asking how she is enjoying Vernon. How could he have listed his mother's address as Vernon in January when she didn't move there until August?

 

 

On January 4, 1961 there is another application for a non-citizen alien identity card. I believe this is fraudulent. Only three photographs are provided. The passport number is blank, the names of relatives living abroad is blank, his 1960 identity card number given at the bottom is wrong, the name of the inspector is illegible.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&search=%22Harvey_Lee+Oswald%22#relPageId=429&tab=page

 

On January 4, 1962 he applied for an extension of his non-citizen alien identity card. In the space for the names of relatives living abroad, this space is left blank.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&search=%22Harvey_Lee+Oswald%22#relPageId=430&tab=page

 

In addition to the Vernon question, it doesn't look like Lee knew how to spell his mother's name.

 

Steve Thomas

 

 

 

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http://www.crowelltex.com/

Population 948.  Back to back sixman football state champions 2013/14.  It's pretty desolate up there, not totally flat but not very hilly either.  Mainly scrub brush with mesquite trees.  Pronounced Crow-ell.

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1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said:

http://www.crowelltex.com/

Population 948.  Back to back sixman football state champions 2013/14.  It's pretty desolate up there, not totally flat but not very hilly either.  Mainly scrub brush with mesquite trees.  Pronounced Crow-ell.

Ron,

 

On November 25, 1963 SA Jarrell Davis interviewed Mrs. Otis Grafford of the McAdams Ranch in Crowell, TX. Mrs. Grafford advised that “Mrs. Marguerite Claverie Oswald of Fort Worth, TX had worked for her and her husband for two months in June and July, 1961 as a housekeeper and cook. She added that she had employed Mrs. Oswald as a result of Mrs. Oswald answering an ad that she, Mrs. Grafford had placed in a Fort Worth, Texas newspaper.”

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/FBI%20Records%20Files/105-82555/105-82555%20Section%20016/105-16d.pdf p. 19.

 

On November 25, 1963 SA Jarrell Davis interviewed Mr. Otis Grafford of the McAdams Ranch in Crowell, TX. Mr. Grafford advised “ that “Mrs. Marguerite Claverie Oswald had worked for him as a housekeeper and a cook between June 1, 1961 until August 1, 1961... He added he and his wife first became acquainted with Mrs. Oswald when she answered an ad they had placed in a Fort Worth, TX newspaper.”

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/FBI%20Records%20Files/105-82555/105-82555%20Section%20016/105-16d.pdf p. 21.

WC testimony of SA Fain: It took about three weeks to find her.

"I think, my recollection is, he (SA Davis) had difficulty locating her in that sparsely settled western country. I think he had to go to several different towns and finally located her."

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=34#relPageId=422&tab=page

 

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The letters seem legitimate. Marguerite works in Crowell from June 1 to August 1, 1961. She went there from Fort Worth.

On November 25, 1963 SA Jarell Davis interviewed Byron Phillips, Route 1, Vernon, TX. Mr. Phillips advised that Marguerite Oswald had worked for him as a housekeeper and a nurse for approximately six months from August or September, 1961 until February or March, 1962.

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/FBI%20Records%20Files/105-82555/105-82555%20Section%20016/105-16d.pdf p. 17.

 

So, how to explain this? This is an application to extend Lee's non-resident alien identity card. It's dated January 1.

 

 

Steve Thomas

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said:

The letters seem legitimate. Marguerite works in Crowell from June 1 to August 1, 1961. She went there from Fort Worth.

On November 25, 1963 SA Jarell Davis interviewed Byron Phillips, Route 1, Vernon, TX. Mr. Phillips advised that Marguerite Oswald had worked for him as a housekeeper and a nurse for approximately six months from August or September, 1961 until February or March, 1962.

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/FBI%20Records%20Files/105-82555/105-82555%20Section%20016/105-16d.pdf p. 17.

 

So, how to explain this? This is an application to extend Lee's non-resident alien identity card. It's dated January 1.

 

Sigh.

 

I've got this wrong. This identity card application is January 1, 1962. He was surrendering his 1961 card.

I'm going to go away now.

 

Steve Thomas

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3 hours ago, Ray Mitcham said:

Don't let it worry you, Steve. We all make mistakes, that's why they put erasers on the end of pencils.

Ray,

 

Thanks.

 

The application for an extension of an identity card that I thought was fraudulent because it had so many mistakes on it?

Well, that is his 1961 application.

Look at the Russian version on pp 417-418.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&search="Harvey_Lee+Oswald"#relPageId=431&tab=page

It's got stuff written across the face of it. Things are crossed out. He wrote down the number of his identity card wrong. He signed it with the wrong date.

Maybe he didn't have a Russian translator helping him out this time like he did in Moscow.

 

Steve Thomas

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