Mervyn Hagger Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I totally disagree. Jason has presented some interesting material that gets in the way of the set-pattern of thinking subscribed to by most people writing about JFK and his death. Jason is correct when he states that really nothing new or substantive has emerged in the past 50 years to cause any authoritative writing of a new historical account of events on November 22, 1963, and days following. Instead, the rantings of the conspiracy fanatics go around and around and around in circles, and they are only matched by the same loonies who say of the Warren Report = "Nothing to see here, it is just a factual report which states the LHO was a lone nut assassin, and that is the truth of the matter. Case closed." Both camps are full of non-thinking saps who make up the legions who subscribe to wars in order to make arms manufacturers wealthy people. The only way to look at the JFK assassination is as a cold case crime scene and follow the recommended procedure of a) keeping an open mind about events to look at them afresh; b) using strict logic and strict proof to look at evidence; c) by enquiring about the chain of custody by which any evidence has been acquired to date. I believe that this is exactly what Jason has been, and is still doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Hagger Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 On 5/5/2018 at 9:43 PM, Jason Ward said: 4. Walker is a FBI, Nixon, and UN critic who apparently the FBI decides in 1970 is now fit to ignore. Walker jumps the shark? According to Walker's own words during 1961 occupying one and half pages of text in the broadsheet 'Arizona Republic', his problems began with Eugene Bernald who was identified in the 1957 US TV and Radio Encyclopedia, as being an agent for oversees (US) government broadcasting. Bernald, claimed Walker, was responsible for both Radio Swan (Bay of Pigs), and Radio Elizabethville (Katanga, Congo = Hammarskojd.) Walker also named Bernald as being responsible for the GI civilian tabloid 'Overseas Weekly' from which came the major attack on Walker. In other words, if Bernald was representing US government views, then so was the document above which is identified as a "U.S. Government Memorandum"! The U.S. Government says you are crazy. So be it. (Screw the U.S. Constitution!) Hmmmm, not sure that I agree with that line of reasoning by the "U.S. Government", which almost sounds like one of those blanket accusations used by nutters to smear religious and racial groups of people with one stroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Trejo Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) Hi Jason, I finally found that LIFE Magazine article about Larrie Schmidt and CUSA in Germany in 1962 and Dallas in 1963. Here it is, in two parts: http://www.pet880.com/images/19631122_CUSA_1_NB.jpg http://www.pet880.com/images/19631122_CUSA_2_NB.jpg These two pages reveal the entire Larrie Schmidt story. When I interviewed him back in 2012, he took his time and repeated this entire story to me. He particularly dwelled upon the part in which he was in the US Army as the supervisor for the project to turn the Hitler Bunker location into a recreation park for the US Army. That was exciting to Larrie, because he would sleep in all of the bunkers of all the Nazi Leaders, just to say that he had done that. He wore a special suit, and had a chauffeur, and he received celebrities at this new Recreation Park as well as ranking officers and other servicemen seeking a vacation from the business of guarding the Berlin Wall. Larrie conceived of CUSA entirely on his own. His college degree was in marketing publicity. He was schooled as a writer. (Evidently he was the only CUSA member who had a college degree). He was the leader at this US Army drinking club. His idea was that anybody could take over the political reigns of power -- simply by being in the right place at the right time, with the right ideology and the right words. In 1962, the right ideology was The Conscience of a Conservative (1961) by Barry Goldwater. Young and inexperienced in politics, but a great believer in propaganda and the use of Mass Media to shape political opinion, Larrie believed that with a small group of loyal followers, that he could rule the world -- a heck of a lot better than JFK was running it. As you noted, Jason, Larrie and Bernie and their drinking buddies in the USA Army agreed to go to Texas, and to start taking over Radical Right groups, one at a time, until they were all under CUSA. Then they would do this nationally. It was quite a pipe (or beer) dream. Actually, all the boys thought it was a drunken joke -- all except for Larrie. In October, 1963, Bernie and Bill Burley were in New York eking out a living as encyclopedia salesmen (with no sales) when they heard the invitation from Larrie to move to Dallas, because Adlai Stevenson was just now humiliated by General Walker's people -- with himself at the helm. Larrie boasted that he was the only one brave enough to put his name out onto the newspapers, and claim responsibility, and defend the actions of the rioters. Larrie put it all together for Bernie and Bill, and seeking loyal followers, invited them to join. Larry Jones and his girlfriend had indeed preceded Bernie and Bill to Dallas. Larry Jones was there a couple months before -- seeking work. After a few frustrating weeks of finding no work, he and his girlfriend left Dallas and went back to the East Coast. So, they were gone when Bernie and Bill arrived. Bernie and Bill then tried to make their living as carpet salesmen in Dallas. They worked hard -- but never sold a single carpet in their 3 weeks there. So, it was no big deal when they left Dallas in a hurry. Nobody owed them money. Bernie and Bill left Dallas as broke as they came -- only they left in a panic. You're right, Jason, to detect a note of panic in the voicings of Bernie Weissman in his WC testimony. He was terrified. He actually didn't do anything -- that is -- he didn't really know what he did -- but he knew he was in with the WRONG CROWD and he had suspected that from the beginning. He never liked General Walker from the start -- because he was Jewish, and General Walker proved that he was a racist by starting a race riot at Ole Miss in late 1962. Bernie justified his participation in that as one of the leaders of CUSA, he would be able to TURN all these racists away from being racists, and so save the USA. But that brings me to the WELCOME TO DALLAS MISTER KENNEDY full-page black-bordered ad in the Dallas Morning News on 11/22/1963. It cost $1,462 in 1963, which is like $14,620 in today's dollars -- cash. Larrie was living hand to mouth, and Bill and Bernie were flat broke. That's a lot of money. It came from the John Birch Society, through a coordinator, Joe Grinnen. Nelson Hunt, son H.L. Hunt, was one of the contributors. The key to remember about the black-bordered ad, was the source of the text. Where did it come from? Bernie said he edited one line. He waffles about the source of the other lines -- they either came from Larrie Schmidt or from Joe Grinnen "as far as he could tell." In other words, Bernie didn't really know, and didn't really pay attention. In other words, Bernie didn't ask, because he didn't want to know. In my reading, the wording from the black-bordered ad came entirely from the published speeches of General Walker. The language, the topic, the inflection -- all belongs to General Walker. I think Bernie Weissman expended a lot of energy to live this period of his life in a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial. All best, --Paul Edited May 8, 2018 by Paul Trejo fix links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Ward Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 5 hours ago, Paul Trejo said: I finally found that LIFE Magazine article about Larrie Schmidt and CUSA in Germany in 1962 and Dallas in 1963. Here it is, in two parts: http://www.pet880.com/images/19631122_CUSA_1_NB.jpg http://www.pet880.com/images/19631122_CUSA_2_NB.jpg Hi Paul, Thanks for the Life magazine article on the young Radical Right wingers who organized the hostile "Welcome Mr Kennedy to Dallas" newspaper ad. I encapsulate Bernard Weissman and Larrie Schmidt in this from the article: "Schmidt may sound like a high school boy cooking up a secret initiation, but he's deadly serious." Yes indeed these passionate anti-communists are serious, but they lack the experience and wherewithal to do much harm. I see off-duty army buddies at a Munich beer hall getting worked up over the success of the Soviet space program, a U-2 shot down over Russia, nearby communists in Europe, and Castro. Filled with liquid courage and beer soaked clarity of mind, they plan to takeover the entire American Right Wing so that they can....shift it more to the Right. Their biggest success is acting as front men for the the Hunt family, the John Birch Society, and the local gentry of the Dallas Right in placing an anti-Kennedy newspaper ad. The Red Scare is alive and well even after the official end of McCarthyism. Americans, especially southern Americans, see communists everywhere, from the White House to the PTA. Maybe one takeaway I get from Bernie Weissman is: where do budding conservative operatives and passionate nationalists head to straight from their army days in Europe? .....Dallas. 1. The PTA as an organ of Communist conspiracy in the US: 2. Kentucky as ground zero in the Communist takeover of America 3. General Walker's distress signal??? SOURCE: The University of Texas at Austin, Dolph Briscoe Center for the Study of American History. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Trejo Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Jason Ward said: Hi Paul, Thanks for the Life magazine article on the young Radical Right wingers who organized the hostile "Welcome Mr Kennedy to Dallas" newspaper ad. ... Filled with liquid courage and beer soaked clarity of mind, they plan to takeover the entire American Right Wing so that they can....shift it more to the Right. Their biggest success is acting as front men for the Hunt family, the John Birch Society, and the local gentry of the Dallas Right in placing an anti-Kennedy newspaper ad. ... Maybe one take-away I get from Bernie Weissman is: where do budding conservative operatives and passionate nationalists head to straight from their army days in Europe? .....Dallas. Hi Jason, Yes, all agreed -- and I would add something. My one take-away from Bernie Weissman is that General Walker was in the very center of the CUSA drama in Dallas. It was General Walker's people in the JBS who were behind the WELCOME TO DALLAS MISTER KENNEDY black-bordered ad. Yet we also saw from Robert Klause that it was General Walker's people who were behind the WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK handbills! Let's pause a moment, and put two and two together. During November/December 2015, I interviewed Ruth Paine. I pointedly asked her one of the most frequently asked questions in all of CT literature in the past half-century, namely, when Michael Paine called her on this tapped phone conversation on 11/22/1963, and told her, "We both know who did it," what did she understand Michael to mean? Ruth Paine did not hesitate in the slightest -- she told me that she and Michael had an intuitive connection about this -- they both knew intuitively what the other was thinking -- and they both felt strongly that those people in Dallas who had published the Black-bordered Ad and that WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK handbills -- were the very people who killed JFK that day. I agree with Michael and Ruth Paine 100%. Now, she explained, this was only their intuition. They didn't have any knowledge beyond this guesswork. I say they guessed 100% right. All best, --Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Ward Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) On 5/2/2018 at 4:51 PM, Paul Trejo said: However, we still have some important folks to review. Starting with General Walker himself, we then have Robert Alan Surrey, Robert G. Klause, Bernard Weissman, Revilo P. Oliver -- and some others. THE RADICAL RIGHT TESTIFYING BEFORE THE WARREN COMMISSION PART III: ROBERT SURREY Surrey begins by saying "I do not wish to testify as concerns the wanted poster or the "Wanted for Treason." US Chief Justice Earl Warren admonishes Surrey that witnesses do not have the luxury of wanting or not wanting to testify, they are required to testify unless there is "a privilege" Surrey says he will invoke the protection against self incrimination as guaranteed by the 5th Amendment to the US Constitution Chief Justice Warren acts as Surrey's attorney and advises him that he can intermittently invoke the 5th Amendment by answering only the questions he chooses to answer Johnson Printing Company is Surrey's employer (the former employer of Robert Krause (see above in this thread)) Surrey admits he is the President of the American Eagle Publishing Company The Assassination Story is but one of many products published by American Eagle, Surrey testifies The Assassination Story is a 10 day compilation of Dallas newspaper coverage in the wake of the assassination, Surrey says Oswald received money transfers from Western Union, Surrey says, based on a Dallas Times Herald article Surrey wonders out loud if the Warren Commission will investigate the source of this money given to Oswald via Western Union The national news media filters and manipulates the news, Surrey says, so that it is "possibly" untrue when delivered to a national audience ....but local media is more accurate and not so easily "muzzled" as the national media, Surrey claims WC member congressman Boggs is confrontational with Surrey over the implication that the WC could be muzzled or not seek the truth General Walker's race riot at Ole Miss was untruthfully reported by the national media, Surrey says General Walker's employee, "Mrs Osburn" and her husband selected the articles in The Assassination Story, according to Surrey General Walker and Robert Surrey are the joint partners who own American Eagle Publishing Company Surrey declines to answer when asked who printed the Wanted for Treason handbills - he pleads the 5th. He also declines to answer: whether he knows Robert Krause, whether he is familiar with Lettercraft Printing, or whether he created the copy for the handbills Surrey is the only witness "out of hundreds" who invoked the 5th amendment and refused to answer a question, congressman Boggs says for the record Surrey declines to answer the question asking if he supplied the frontal and profile pictures of JFK used in the Wanted for Treason posters Surrey cannot afford a lawyer, he claims Surrey refuses to answer when asked if he knows Clifton and Dorothy Mercer Surrey seems to deny knowing Bernard Weissman - although the testimony here is confused. General Edwin Walker did not participate in printing the Wanted for Treason handbills, Surrey claims, and then pleads the 5th about this question 4011 Turtle Creek Blvd, General Walker's residence, functions as the merchandise storehouse for American Eagle Publishing Company Surrey refuses to answer several more questions about the anti-JFK handbills, invoke the 5th Amendment General Walker and Surrey are associated for the last 3 years, Surrey says Surrey admits that the neighbor's dog barks at all new visitors to Walker's house The neighbor's dog does not bark at Surrey because Surrey is a frequent visitor to Walker's house Surrey says there are areas within 30 yards of Walker's home that could be used to bury a rifle Charles Klihr is the owner of the car shown in CE 1005, Surrey suggests Surrey is present on 10APR63 fifteen minutes after the attack on General Walker at his house Surrey provides many details around the specific location of Walker's home using aerial photographs and picture General Walker may be the target of electronic eavesdropping, Surrey says General Walker was bleeding in "four or five places" the night he was shot, Surrey says General Walker still had plaster in his hair from the impact of a bullet into his wall, Surrey says Newspaper reporters arrived on 10APR63 at Walker's house 08APR63 Surrey sees two men "peeking in windows" and so forth at Walker's house CE 520 is shown to Surrey - he denies knowing the middle person (Oswald) Chief Justice Warren asks Surrey if he was present when Adlai Stevenson was assaulted in October 1963, Surrey says he was not A new 4 door Ford sedan, brown or maroon, occupied by two men, was seen by Surrey on 08APR63 around General Walker's house, Surrey says CONCERNS Why does Robert Surrey plead the 5th so much in his testimony when no other witness does? Why is congressman Boggs so confrontational with Surrey about any suggestion the WC will not do its job? Does Earl Warren have a fuller grasp of the Radical Right in Dallas than he lets on - as indicated by his direction question to Surrey and Surrey's possible presence at the Adlai Stevenson assault? How do newspaper reporters know about the attack on Walker so soon Why do Surrey and Walker believe Walker's house is bugged? Is there any other reference to Oswald receiving money from the Western Union office, which in turn implies out-of-town sponsorship, as Surrey suggests? Is there any connection to a dark colored Ford in Dallas anywhere in this case, as the car seen by Surrey around Walker's house? Surrey intends to say that the attack on Walker was not a lone nut, but part of at least a 2-man conspiracy, does he not? Is WC attorney Jenner trying to trap Surrey with the questions about the neighbor's barking dog? Don't we have testimony elsewhere that the dog was quiet on the night of the Walker attack? Is Jenner coming close to saying that the dogs must have recognized the shooters since they were quiet? 1 Mary Ferrell offers this interesting sidenote about Bob Surrey and his daughter: 2 Robert Surrey in the only picture I could find. Why is he so small a part in assassination literature? 3. Surrey says this car at General Walker's house belongs to Charles Klihr. SOURCES: 1 - Mary Ferrell, The Mary Ferrell Foundation. https://www.maryferrell.org/php/marysdb.php?id=6921&search=karen surrey 2 - Mark Bridger, Dealey Plaza Echo, Vol 7, Iss 1, p 22 3 - Warren Commission Hearings and Exhibits, CE 5 Edited May 8, 2018 by Jason Ward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Trejo Posted May 9, 2018 Author Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Hi Jason, Here are my responses to your nine CONCERNS. 1. Robert Alan Surrey is the only witness out of 488 WC witnesses in 1964 who took the 5th Amendment, to avoid answering a question that "may tend to incriminate" him. He did this more than 20 times. Why so many? The answer is in the nature of the questions. Every single one of those questions was about the WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK handbills. Every single one. So, that's the answer for "why so many." 2. Congressman Boggs was miffed that Surrey suggested that local news was better than national news (like the WC) because, Surrey said, national news did not always tell the truth. Specifically, Surrey used the phrase "muzzle." That's from the Bible (Deuteronomy 25:4) "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." This phrase was famous in 1961 with regard to removing General Walker from his command in Germany. Though the Pentagon removed him over a shore flap with the US Army newspaper there, which had been trying to dig up stories about Walker being gay, Walker claimed that "JFK had fired him over JBS propaganda." So, Walker claimed he was "muzzled" by JFK. The phrase became famous in 1962 and came to mean "political censorship," but also that somebody was a "bad Christian." Congressman Boggs, a Southerner, took that personally. 3. In my CT, Earl Warren knew the full story about the guilt of the Radical Right in Dallas. He could never say this, since he was committed to the Lone Nut CT (due to National Security concerns). Earl Warren in 1964 found out that Adlai Stevenson had been assaulted by General Walker's people. It was well-known in Dallas (cf. Cravens, 1993) though James Hosty kept the truth from Washington DC. 4. It is difficult today to see how famous General Walker was throughout 1962 (before he went underground). General Walker was a fierce, outspoken critic of JFK (like Rush Limbaugh during the Obama years). General Walker was known in Texas as a former candidate for State Governor. General Walker was known in Dallas as a close, personal friend of H.L. Hunt -- the richest man in town. So, only minutes after April 1963 shots at Walker in Oak Lawn (a fairly wealthy district) police and newspaper reporters were all over the house. 5. Surrey and Walker believed that Walker's house was bugged because (5.1) they were both paranoid, because; (5.2) they both had much to hide. 6. There was plenty of accusation that Oswald received money from the Western Union office -- from the Western Union clerks themselves, called to testify before the Warren Commission. Their testimony fell apart -- like several other "mistaken identity" cases in the JFK case. 7. I have no information about a maroon-colored Ford in Dallas in the JFK case -- although there were probably hundreds of maroon-colored Fords in Dallas in 1963. 8. Surrey hoped, as Walker hoped, to convert the WC attorneys from the Lone Nut CT, and that the WC should be seeking the Communist accomplices of LHO. LHO had many Communist accomplices, they sang; not only in killing JFK -- but also in trying to kill General Walker. They sang this same song for 30 years. 9. Surrey's implication about the neighbor's dog harmonizes with another witness story that the neighbor's dog was sick that night -- possibly as a result of food poisoning, deliberately poisoned by the shooters. As for Jenner's strategy, I think he was trying to get on Surrey's good side, to tempt Surrey to share more information than Surrey was willing to share. Yet Surrey knew exactly how to lie to the "enemy" -- he had to hide the very key to the JFK Assassination. All best, --Paul Edited November 30, 2019 by Paul Trejo typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Trejo Posted May 9, 2018 Author Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Hi Jason, Here are my remarks about the Mary Ferrell citation you shared: Mary Ferrell here prefaces a rarely perused sideshow of the JFK assassination -- namely, the humiliation of Adlai Stevenson in Dallas one month before JFK arrived -- by exactly the same people who killed JFK, namely, the people reporting to General Walker. Here is the background. US Ambassador to the United Nations, Adlai Stevenson, advertised that he was coming to Dallas on October 24, 1963, to deliver a speech on behalf of the UN. Being a Washington DC elitist, he was blissfully unaware of the John Birch Society (JBS) rhetoric. For the JBS, the UN was Communist. It was a tool for Communist nations to increase their influence, and to undermine USA influence around the world. It had no other purpose. So, the JBS widely sold two bumper stickers to advertise their political opinion; one was: "US out of UN!" and the other one was "UN out of US!". The JBS also had a standing rule for all JBS members, nationwide: "Never allow a Communist speaker to complete his speech in your town." Whether other JBS members in the USA obeyed that standing rule was irrelevant for General Walker -- he was not going to allow Adlai Stevenson to complete his speech. In response, General Walker assembled his "troops" in Dallas, including ranking members of the JBS in Dallas, Robert Alan Surrey, Joe Grinnen, members of the NIC (National Indignation Convention), and various Minutemen. Joe Grinnen and Robert Alan Surrey recruited Larrie Schmidt to recruit Young Republicans from a local college, to picket outside and give the protest a respectable front. General Walker's plan was to start his own holiday in response. If the UN could declare a "UN Day" in Dallas, then General Walker would declare a "US Day" in Dallas. When? Exactly one day before "UN Day." Furthermore, if the UN could book the Dallas Memorial Auditorium for this venue, then so could General Walker -- the night before. The night before Adlai Stevenson's UN Day, in the very same auditorium, General Walker held his "US Day" event. Larrie Schmidt was there, and he told me what he saw. After various ceremonial activities, including the bouquet welcoming of the South Vietnamese aristocrat, Madame Nhu , our General Walker addressed the crowd, telling them that Adlai Stevenson must never be allowed to complete his speech about the UN on the following night, because it was a "Communist" speech. The attendees were instructed to buy as many tickets to Adlai Stevenson's speech that they could afford, to ensure that they were the majority there that night. They were instructed to bring New Years Eve party noisemakers, and to stomp their feet, applaud out of turn, hiss, boo, stand up and make speeches, and in every other way disrupt the "Communist" speech of Adlai Stevenson. As the final kiss, volunteers were asked to help Joe Grinnen hang a giant banner from the ceiling of the Dallas Memorial Auditorium, and roll it up to the ceiling, and tie both ends with a long rope. The rope would also hang down, such that when somebody pulled on the rope, the giant banner would unfold down from the ceiling, announcing on one side "US out of UN!" and on the other side, "UN out of US!" to a standing ovation! The humiliation of Adlai Stevenson the next night is famous -- but not all the details are famous. It should be more widely perused, in my opinion, because it showed the effective control of staff by General Walker and Robert Alan Surrey. (Further confirmation about these details may be found in Chris Cravens' well-known 1991 thesis on General Walker.) In a new revelation, those WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK handbills also circulated through downtown Dallas on October 23 and 24, 1963, for "US Day" and "UN Day", as well as Dallas-wide on November 22, 1963. All best, --Paul Edited May 9, 2018 by Paul Trejo typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Trejo Posted May 9, 2018 Author Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Hi Jason, A couple more words. Photographs of Robert Alan Surrey are extremely rare. Gayle Nix Jackson has the largest collection of them that I know about. She contacted the two sons of Robert Alan Surrey in Dallas, and they told her stories that she published in her new book, Pieces of the Puzzle (2018). Their stories are memories from their childhood, so that might make a difference when we evaluate them -- although they tend to agree that Lee Harvey Oswald was well-known by their father. In any case, the boys had photographs of Robert Alan Surrey that they agreed to share with Gayle. By the way, Jason, do you have a "year" for the photograph of Surrey that you shared? Finally, about the car belonging to Charles Klihr. I completely accept the attribution of the ownership of this car as decided by the WC. The photograph shown was taken by the camera belonging to Lee Harvey Oswald -- the same camera that took the original "Backyard Photograph" at Neely Street in Oak Cliff, Dallas. According to Marina Oswald, LHO was obsessed with General Walker from March to April 1963, and took several photographs of his property. Marina recognized the photograph -- except for the blackout (redaction) of the license plate. Why was the license plate blacked out by the FBI, was the common question. The answer is that the FBI would always "redact" documents to remove the names of private citizens, many of whom were entirely innocent. The same applies to Charles Klihr, in my opinion. Knowing that most JBS members were simple-minded and well-intentioned folks, who only wanted to save the USA from Communism -- there were many, many volunteers who came to the American Eagle Publishing Company address, which was Walker's home, to do free work there. Charles Klihr and his wife both volunteered at the Walker address. They mainly did mail-order business envelope stuffing and filing. They did this for free. They were supervised by General Walker's secretary, Julia Knecht, who worked full-time at Walker's home. (Julia contributed 40 boxes of Walker's personal papers to the Briscoe Center for the Study of American History, bringing the total to 90 boxes.) Now -- Charles Klihr and his wife were also members of the Friends of Walker, and paid dues to Walker for his newsletter. His children today may have copies of every single newsletter that Walker sent. They might know something that nobody else knows. Maybe. All best, --Paul Edited May 9, 2018 by Paul Trejo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Ward Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Paul Trejo said: to recruit Young Republicans from a local college, The interesting thing is that weeks before Kennedy's arrival, DPD was aware that The Walker Group was planning something for 22NOV63 DPD was aware that The Walker Group was behind the assault on Adlai Stevenson Neither the DPD nor FBI nor Secret Service saw fit to alert Washington to this knowledge 1. DPD knows not later than 5NOV63 that General Walker is sponsoring anti-Kennedy activities and the assault on Adlai Stevenson. What did Hoover know, and when? SOURCE FBI Oswald Headquarters File 105-82555, Section 196 Edited May 9, 2018 by Jason Ward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Hagger Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Jason, this guy writes about LHO and Switzerland and even the infamous black border ad in the DMN with mention of the two who paid for it. Mervyn http://coverthistory.blogspot.co.uk/2005/07/oswald-and-albert-schweitzer-college.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Ward Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 14 hours ago, Paul Trejo said: Now -- Charles Klihr and his wife were also members of the Friends of Walker, and paid dues to Walker for his newsletter. His children today may have copies of every single newsletter that Walker sent. They might know something that nobody else knows. Maybe. Yes, Paul, I think given what I've seen of the documents released over the last year, the freshest clues in the assassination might yet be found in old papers in someone's attic, in local law enforcement files not subject to the JFK records act, or in the stories handed down by family members. For example, in December of 1963 someone in New York was already pining for your Walker-did-it-conspiracy-theory.....did they know something and leave some clues for us to find? 1. Walker is accused in an anonymous DEC63 letter of programming Oswald in the assassination: 2. ...."a notorious figure..." SOURCE 1 & 2 FBI files on General Walker, 9-41583 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Hagger Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Jason Ward said: Yes, Paul, I think given what I've seen of the documents released over the last year, the freshest clues in the assassination might yet be found in old papers in someone's attic, in local law enforcement files not subject to the JFK records act, or in the stories handed down by family members. For example, in December of 1963 someone in New York was already pining for your Walker-did-it-conspiracy-theory.....did they know something and leave some clues for us to find? 1. Walker is accused in an anonymous DEC63 letter of programming Oswald in the assassination: 2. ...."a notorious figure..." SOURCE 1 & 2 FBI files on General Walker, 9-41583 Where was Walker when LHO arrived in Europe on his convoluted "visit"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Ward Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Mervyn Hagger said: Jason, this guy writes about LHO and Switzerland and even the infamous black border ad in the DMN with mention of the two who paid for it. Mervyn http://coverthistory.blogspot.co.uk/2005/07/oswald-and-albert-schweitzer-college.html Mervyn, can we discuss this in the thread you started about Oswald in Europe? I'll share one quote from that link about Oswald's application to Albert Scweitzer College that might interest Paul Trejo: How Oswald found out about this obscure little college has long been regarded as something of a mystery. [...] The answer to the mystery may well be found in his relationship with Kerry Thornley. Thornley - a noted right-winger - .... I'll move this link to the other thread. Edited May 10, 2018 by Jason Ward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Trejo Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jason Ward said: Mervyn, can we discuss this in the thread you started about Oswald in Europe? I'll share one quote from that link about Oswald's application to Albert Scweitzer College that might interest Paul Trejo: How Oswald found out about this obscure little college has long been regarded as something of a mystery. [...] The answer to the mystery may well be found in his relationship with Kerry Thornley. Thornley - a noted right-winger - .... I'll move this link to the other thread. Kerry Thornley was anything but "a noted right-winger." Kerry Thornley was a noted "flower child" of the 1960's. Raised Mormon, he was known in the 1960's as the "Sinister Minister of the First Evangelical and Unrepentant Church of No Faith," and his newsletter was called, Zenarchy. He founded the Church of the Subgenius. Kerry, who was college educated and liberal, liked Lee Harvey Oswald at El Toro Marine base in 1959 because LHO was different. LHO at least made an effort to read political books, unlike most Marines. Yet Kerry was also young and hard to please, and had little patience with the fake Marxism of Lee Harvey Oswald. Kerry Thornley's WC testimony is quite plain on all this. Regards, --Paul Trejo Edited May 10, 2018 by Paul Trejo Zenarchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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