Carter: the POTUS nearest to JFK?

[Paz Marverde]

Yes, IMHO

[W. Niederhut]

     Carter was the only POTUS after 11/22/63 who attempted (however unsuccessfully) to reform the CIA, and to sincerely raise the issue of human rights in our foreign policies.  He was also the only POTUS after JFK who was willing to actively intervene in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    For these efforts, any references to Carter are usually greeted in the U.S. with howls of execration and derision.

    The Ayatollahs, unwittingly, held the wrong POTUS hostage.

[Joe Bauer]

Carter also initiated a serious attempt to deal with and curb corruption in our major city police forces and judicial systems and even Las Vegas.

The Mafia had corrupted so many major city police forces and judicial systems over decades and it wasn't until Carter that a substantially funded effort was made on a federal level to deal with this problem in a major way.

At one time it was estimated that police forces such as New York City and others had inner corruption rates of 30% and higher!

Carter will never receive the credit he is due. Not even in our main stream media history books.  But, the more you look at what he was trying to do,  the specifics, you will see someone who the nefarious corrupt forces in this country hated.

Reagan's handlers made that deal with the Iranians, they made a deal with the Vatican, and who knows how many other back room deals to gain an edge in the popular vote and dump a president who was really getting into areas of corruption and long held power that were not supposed to be dealt with.

Like JFK, Carter had very powerful enemies who saw Carter's policies as a major threat to their status.  They didn't have to kill Carter though. They just had to manipulate an election enough to get rid of him.

Edited July 18, 2018 by Joe Bauer

[Ron Bulman]

But for a sandstorm and clogged air intakes Carter Might have been hailed as a hero for authorizing a raid that rescued the hostages.  From an old memory.

"The next day, (after the election) Carter flew to West Germany to greet the hostages on their way home". 

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/hostage-rescue-mission-ends-in-disaster

Edited July 18, 2018 by Ron Bulman

[Joseph McBride]

And Carter tried to appoint Ted Sorensen head of the CIA to clean it up. That plan

was shot down by furious CIA and Senate opposition, using his conscientious-objector status

in his youth as part of the excuse.

Edited July 18, 2018 by Joseph McBride

[Paz Marverde]

5 hours ago, Joseph McBride said:

And Carter tried to appoint Ted Sorensen head of the CIA to clean it up. That plan was shot down by furious CIA and Senate opposition, using his conscientious-objector status in his youth as part of the excuse.

Ditto, Joseph. Ditto. This IS a key point. Thanks for remembering it. I add: Sorensen's appointment was also thought to try to reopen the investigation on the assassination of JFK

Edited July 18, 2018 by Paz Marverde

[Paz Marverde]

16 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Carter was the only POTUS after 11/22/63 who attempted (however unsuccessfully) to reform the CIA

Exactly. Once again, why I say Carter is very similar to JFK. Agree. Thank you 

Edited July 18, 2018 by Paz Marverde

[Paz Marverde]

16 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

Carter will never receive the credit he is due. Not even in our main stream media history books.  But, the more you look at what he was trying to do,  the specifics, you will see someone who the nefarious corrupt forces in this country hated.

 

16 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

Like JFK, Carter had very powerful enemies who saw Carter's policies as a major threat to their status. 

I absolutely subscribe both assertions 

[Lawrence Schnapf]

There was also an alleged attempted assassination of Carter shortly after he said the problems in the US go back to the JFK assassination and planned on making a big speech that was believed to have involved sweeping changes in US government. The speech was cancelled. One of the suspects was named "Raymond Lee Harvey" and the other "Oswaldo Espinoza Ortiz". See May 12, 1979 NYT or other papers for details (tried to upload but got message file was too large) .  

[Jeffrey Reilley]

3 bullets left on a windowsill overlooking where Carter was giving that speech, if I recall correctly. 

[James DiEugenio]

That is an amazing story which does not get the attention it deserves.

How could that possibly be a coincidence?

[Paz Marverde]

 

1 hour ago, Lawrence Schnapf said:

There was also an alleged attempted assassination of Carter shortly after he said the problems in the US go back to the JFK assassination and planned on making a big speech that was believed to have involved sweeping changes in US government. The speech was cancelled. One of the suspects was named "Raymond Lee Harvey" and the other "Oswaldo Espinoza Ortiz". See May 12, 1979 NYT or other papers for details (tried to upload but got message file was too large) .  

No surprise for me. Thank you very for your participation to the thread, by the way 

[Joe Bauer]

1 hour ago, Lawrence Schnapf said:

There was also an alleged attempted assassination of Carter shortly after he said the problems in the US go back to the JFK assassination and planned on making a big speech that was believed to have involved sweeping changes in US government. The speech was cancelled. One of the suspects was named "Raymond Lee Harvey" and the other "Oswaldo Espinoza Ortiz". See May 12, 1979 NYT or other papers for details (tried to upload but got message file was too large) .  

Yes, an amazing story.  

[Paz Marverde]

Look at how much interesting this part is:

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Both Harvey and Espinoza now claim that Harvey was supposed to create a diversion by firing his starter’s pistol while two other men attempted to shoot Carter. 

 

[Joe Bauer]

3 minutes ago, Paz Marverde said:

Look at how much interesting this part is:

 

The same kind of diversion Sirhan Sirhan provided for the real close up rear head shot shooter of RFK?