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Michele Metta's CMC. THE ITALIAN UNDERCOVER CIA AND MOSSAD STATION AND THE ASSASSINATION OF JFK

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15 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

Key questions

Or, maybe, weird questions. For example: Metta documents are from the CMC BODs, so of course those names in the documents Metta put online are in the CMC Board of Directors ...

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3 minutes ago, Paz Marverde said:

Or, maybe, weird questions. For example: Metta documents are from the CMC BODs, so of course those names in the documents Metta put online are in the CMC Board of Directors ...

They are not weird questions, those documents are written in Italian, that is why I asked.

Bloomfield's name is not included in those documents, which does not surprise me because I do not believe he founded Permindex or played a management role in the operation of CMC. Until I see a document that states otherwise, Bloomfield's role, as he described it in one of his letters, was to represent the interest of someone involved with these companies. Who this is  unknown.

 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, John Kowalski said:

I do not believe he founded Permindex or played a management role in the operation of CMC.

Keep on with your believes, Mr. Kowalski. By the way: there is a thing called Google. It is not well known, I know, but from now you know it exists and you could even find out it offers a service of translation. For free, by the way. And yes, Italian is one of the languages it can translate from. Incredible, isn't it? Got it? Thanks 

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Five stars review on Amazon:

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Mr. Metta's book is a powerful addition to JFK assassination research. It is thoroughly documented and presents strong evidence for an Italian connection to the conspiracy. As a student of the JFK murder, I have always suspected American CIA involvement through authors such as Mark Lane. Now Mr. Metta has also shown me another link, the CMC (Centro Mondiale Commerciale) connection out of Italy. Familiar names to conspiracy researchers such as Foster and Allen Dulles, William Harvey, and James Angleton are also linked to the CMC and Kennedy's murder. They were Freemasons who wanted JFK stopped at all costs. I recommend this book highly to any person who desires to know what happened on 11/22/63.

 

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On 11/11/2018 at 1:35 AM, Paz Marverde said:

Ditto. I add that the Italian investigators were absolutely sure Souètre was in Dallas at the time of the assassination. Besides, as Metta explains in his book, there is a declaration under swear made by Guido Giannettini. Giannettini was deeply connected to the Italian Strategy of Tension and, at the same time, an agent of the Italian espionage and a prominent member of both OAS and Aginter Press. This is the English translation – it was never translated into English before – of the Italian document containing that Giannettini's declaration, once more from Metta's book:

 

Paz,

 

I may be behind the times, but I just learned that you can translate entire web pages.

You copy the url and paste it into text box of Google translate. https://translate.google.com/

Thus, this web page http://www.parlamento.it/parlam/bicam/terror/stenografici/steno9.htm

Judge Guido Salvini hearing before the Italian Parliamentary Commission of investigation on terrorism in Italy, 9th session of 12 February 1997 (9ª SEDUTA - MERCOLEDI 12 FEBBRAIO 1997,

can be translated into

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parlamento.it%2Fparlam%2Fbicam%2Fterror%2Fstenografici%2Fsteno9.htm

 

This web page explains how Magistrate Guido Salvini viewed Yves Guerin Serac and Aginter Presse.

 

Please excuse my interruption, but I thought it might help when you are referring Americans to various Italian documents.

 

Steve Thomas

 

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3 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Paz,

 

I may be behind the times, but I just learned that you can translate entire web pages.

You copy the url and paste it into text box of Google translate. https://translate.google.com/

Thus, this web page http://www.parlamento.it/parlam/bicam/terror/stenografici/steno9.htm

Judge Guido Salvini hearing before the Italian Parliamentary Commission of investigation on terrorism in Italy, 9th session of 12 February 1997 (9ª SEDUTA - MERCOLEDI 12 FEBBRAIO 1997,

can be translated into

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.parlamento.it%2Fparlam%2Fbicam%2Fterror%2Fstenografici%2Fsteno9.htm

 

This web page explains how Magistrate Guido Salvini viewed Yves Guerin Serac and Aginter Presse.

 

Please excuse my interruption, but I thought it might help when you are referring Americans to various Italian documents.

 

Steve Thomas

 

No interruption. Instead, I am grateful for your message. Yes, in fact, it was no other than Salvini the Italian judge cited in Metta's book about the fact that the Italian magistrates were sure Souètre was in Dallas the fatal day. Thanks again, Steve.

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4 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

This web page explains how Magistrate Guido Salvini viewed Yves Guerin Serac and Aginter Presse.

Steve,

by the way, this is just the reason why the Italian sources in Metta's book are cited with their Italian title, so whoever can do exactly what you did.

Paz

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There are some me interesting paragraphs in the document. Interesting to look up the Dec. 12 1969 Piazza Fontana bombing and compare. It’s clear that the perpetrators have largely not faced judgement despite sure knowledge of their guilt. 

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Readers of this thread might be interested in this web site:

Stay-behind: les réseaux d’ingérence américains

The American interference network – Gladio

http://www.voltairenet.org/article8691.html#nh27

The English translation is here:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voltairenet.org%2Farticle8691.html%23nh27

I personally found the references to Irving Brown interesting. I personally think (without any evidence mind you), that that's who Souetre and Serac met with in Madrid in May, 1963.

 

Steve Thomas

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4 hours ago, David Andrews said:

Who at CIA was directly responsible for reassigning William Harvey to the Rome station?

I’m pretty sure it was Helms, and without RFK’s knowledge 

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9 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Readers of this thread might be interested in this web site:

Stay-behind: les réseaux d’ingérence américains

The American interference network – Gladio

http://www.voltairenet.org/article8691.html#nh27

The English translation is here:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voltairenet.org%2Farticle8691.html%23nh27

I personally found the references to Irving Brown interesting. I personally think (without any evidence mind you), that that's who Souetre and Serac met with in Madrid in May, 1963.

 

Steve Thomas

Thanks for the interesting and important link.

 

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Publicizing any work is part of the process of education, and this Forum openly embraces and discusses new works. I have made it a habit for the past 20 years to purchase and read many books on the assassination(they now number between 2 and 3 hundred ) and consider the money spent to be part of supporting researchers. I've bought the big and expensive and the small and out of print; I even purchased the collected works of Bruce Adamson on DeMohhenschildt  which will never get an award for best editing, but which provided a lot of useful information. The Metta book was heavily promoted on this site, with at least 4 or 5 postings of the You Tube video and numerous comments on the comments followed.
 
 One result, however, has been dismissal or disdain for anything approaching a critical attitude towards the book by the author's friend, Paz.I found such dismissals distressing, particularly since the Forum is by definition a place of opinion. I did find some of the information helpful and informative, and tried to be positive about my own experience, but found the editing sloppy, no table of contents or an index a hinder, proofreading faults, misguided authorial assumptions about what the reader would or would not know, and a narrative voice more akin to Huck Finn finding a box of relevant papers and announcing "I solved it! I solved it! It's all in this box!"
 
So, at the risk of having my knowledge of European history, or my professional relationships with artists speaking other languages questioned, I will venture to comment further on this book only because I failed to mention an individual named  in the acknowledgements by the author who is relevant to the issues, but likely unknown to many readers: Albino Luciani, - who served for 33 days as Pope John Paul.
 
 Two books about his papacy and his death - In God's Name by David Yallop  and  Murder in the Vatican by Lucian Gregoire are well written, eye-opening accounts of the cesspool  in Italy  in the post war period, but particularly in the 1970's when the bank scandals and the strategy of tension converged and deaths followed.
 
 Richard Cottrell's book, Gladio - NATO's Dagger at the Heart of Europe covers much of the relevant material in the Metta book, as do the mentioned books on Pope John Paul. I have always found Tony Judt's massive book Postwar - Europe Since 1945 very valuable for context. Also relevant are Francis Coppola's film Godfather 3 and the Italian film Il Divo, directed by Paolo Sorrentino. (Metta also acknowledges filmmaker Pier Paolo Pasolini and  Telford Taylor, author of the terrific book, Anatomy of the Nuremberg Trials.). I suspect that Peter Hebblethwaite's huge biography of Pope Paul VI -- who favored Luciani - will also cover similar ground and I have just recently started reading it.(btw: Luciani's death may remind readers of the likely murder of Dorothy Kilgallen). As Bishop and Cardinal in Venice, Luciani also wrote a charming book of letters to people from the past which captures his innate humanity, called Illustrissimi.
 
Permit me to say to other Forum members with whom I have exchanged private messages: I will not disclose any private communication whether or not it would be useful in any argument or posting; I thought such was a given, but I guess not.
 

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