"V" for victory?

[Mathias Baumann]

I just found this:

 

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David S. Lifton says:

November 15, 2014 at 5:41 am

I remember listening to the DPD radio tapes (supplied by Mary Ferrell) back around 1974-75. As a longtime ham radio operator (K2HKC) who used to regularly communicate in Morse code–I was rather astonished to hear the unmistakable “di di di daah, di di di daah”, repeated twice (and just as I have written it out here), transmitted some time in the first minute or two following the assassination. That’s an unmistakable “V” for victory, as Ronnie Wayne’s post indicates, and as was made popular in the TV series “Victory at Sea.” Who the heck made such a transmission in the immediate aftermath of the President’s murder? And why wasn’t this investigated? I am writing this post to (a) confirm that I heard this with my own ears; and (b) to argue that it suggests rather wide spread involvement of certain officers in the Dallas Police Department, most probably in the motorcycle escort.

Source: http://jfkfacts.org/calling-all-witnesses-the-african-american-couple-on-the-grassy-knoll/

 

[Ray Mitcham]

Interesting comment. Mathias The signal was used originally by the BBC in its war time broadcasts to German occupied Europe.

 

As here 

 

[Paul Brancato]

51 minutes ago, Mathias Baumann said:

I just found this:

 

 

Mathias - take a look at my last post on the Tippit/DPD thread. It seems to me we have good reason to think that there were two separate communications channels operating that day, one the normal police system, the other Army Intelligence, which included many DPD detectives, out of the underground bunker at the Fairgrounds. Note the latter was part of what was later called Continuity of Government. My bet is that Lifton heard the V signal on the latter.

[David Lifton]

On 11/16/2018 at 7:35 AM, Mathias Baumann said:

DSL NOTE, 6/24/21 -3:35 AM; (just checking in. .at this late date).   Whatever the precise source, there is no question that it --the di di di dah signal, in Morse, was a deliberate signal sent by someone --probably on a motorcycle -- who tapped out a "V" (for victory, IMHO) using is microphone key.  This radio signal deserved to be investigated; and I'm surprised that it wasn't  --back around the time of the HSCA.  When all the focus was put on the electronic subtleties of the DPD tapes, wasn't there anyone around  --perhaps someone in the FBI -- who knew Morse code, and recognized that as the "V" for victory?

  It says a lot about the "siate of mind" of the particular Dallas Police officer --whether he was on a motorcycle (or elsewhere).  JFK was apparently perceived as a traitor, who deserved to die. IMHO. that was the sick mentality among some of the DPD, IMHO.  And this tapping out of "V" --in Morse --upon his murder, ought to be have been focused upon, and analyzed accordingly.

I've read that Oliver Stone (and DiEugenio) are involved in a project that will be previewed at Cannes.  I hope that someone alerts Stone to this particular audio. Perhaps it can somehow be incorporated into his presentation.  It certainly seems to be newsworthy.  

As a long-time ham radio operator, who was fluent in high-speed Morse code from the time I was 13 (passed the FCC amateur radio code test at 20 wpm), the sound of that V --in this case, a repeated V --is perfectly obvious.  Also, I should point out that the same "V" was sent o out in the opening sequence of the Naval series (re WW II in the Pacific, titled "Victory at Sea.")  Very well done sound effect; very haunting.  Again I hope it can be incorporated in future JFK presentations. It certainly deserves to be.  It sticks out like a sore thumb, and is the equivalent of someone "in the audience" clapping "Hurray" after JFK was shot.   DSL

On 11/16/2018 at 7:35 AM, Mathias Baumann said:

 ERROR.  Sorry. DSL

 

 

 

Edited June 24, 2021 by David Lifton

[David Lifton]

2 minutes ago, David Lifton said:

 

Sorry if I confused matters, by writing what I had to say inside Mathias Baumann's space.  Will try to be more careful in future posts. DSL

 

Edited June 24, 2021 by David Lifton

[Denny Zartman]

On 11/16/2018 at 11:33 AM, Paul Brancato said:

It seems to me we have good reason to think that there were two separate communications channels operating that day, one the normal police system, the other Army Intelligence, which included many DPD detectives, out of the underground bunker at the Fairgrounds. Note the latter was part of what was later called Continuity of Government. My bet is that Lifton heard the V signal on the latter.

That's fascinating. Does anyone know if that recording still exists?

If true, (and I have no reason to doubt David Lifton) it certainly is significant and speaks volumes. It's stunning to think that recording would be allowed to continue to exist.

[Paul Brancato]

Whatever tape Lifton heard it is very telling. I don’t know if my surmise was right - that it was an alternate communications channel. But what is true is that we’ve been diddling around with Oswald, with shenanigans in New Orleans, while it should be perfectly obvious that some DPD detectives were involved, and that points to the US Army more than the CIA. I wouldn’t think they originated the plot, rather that they facilitated it. Some big boys in DC likely called the shots and ran the aftermath, again with obvious military support on AF 1 and in the autopsy room. Oswald, the patsy, has consumed most of the research hours. Did he do it? Was he a participant among others? We can be sure that he was being run by some experts, given a confusing bio, his whereabouts and movements at times still a mystery. But others ran the show. 

[Denny Zartman]

And if it was transmitted while the limo was still en route to the hospital, it seems it must have come from either a close observer in Dealey Plaza or from the motorcade itself.

[Ron Bulman]

On 11/16/2018 at 9:35 AM, Mathias Baumann said:

I just found this:

 

 

I scrolled almost all the way through that long thread on jfkfacts.org to find that particular post of mine.  Ronnie Wayne was the part of my name that I used at that time on that forum.  I was still a little leery about posting my full name in forums at the time.  Paranoid in part about getting bombarded with emails who disagree with my perspectives.  E.G. McAdams and photon posted on that thread along with another who shall remain nameless.  A real name was required here when I finally quit just reading to reply to a Chris Newton thread.  

I remember reading about the V for victory in Morse from somewhere I must have considered a legitimate source or I wouldn't have posted it.  But not who or where at the moment.  This was near eight years ago.  It may take a few days right now but I'll dig a bit.  This is important.  It would confirm what David heard on the tape.  And what he and Denny allude to. Someone In Dealy Plaza announced to those listening on that frequency that understood Morse code, immediately, that the Operation was a success.